Satan: Who is he?

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In addition, Jesus is never called the chief prince in Scripture. On the contrary He is the king of kings and Lord of Lords.
Isaiah 9:6-7
9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
9:7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with Judgment and with Justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the "I AM" Lord of hosts will perform this.

And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS" (Revelation 19:16).
During Christ's Second Coming (Rev. 19:11-16), when God formally gives Christ the Throne of David, as promised (Luke 1:31-33).

Luke 1:31-33
1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS (Saviour).
1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of The Highest: and the Lord God his Father SHALL GIVE unto him the Throne of David:
1:33 And he shall reign over the "House of Jacob/Israel" for ever; and of his Kingdom there shall be no end.

God very obviously doesn't need anyone to give Him anything, does He?

The Bible says that Jesus is the unique Son of God.
It actually speaks of Christ as the firstborn (first-created) of every creature (Col. 1:12-15) and the beginning of the creation of God (Rev. 3:14). And this:

Hebrews 1:1-4
1:1 God, Who at sundry times and in diverse manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the Prophets,
1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [His] Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;
1:3 Who being the brightness of [His] glory, and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by The Word of His power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of His Majesty on high;
1:4 Being MADE (i.e. created by God) so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance (as the firstborn/first-created angel/son of God) obtained a more excellent name than they.

Michael Highest Of Angels

Michael is the highest of the angels - an order of created beings. He is one of the angels
Yes, Michael is the firstborn/first-created Angel/Son of God, hence Michael's designation as "The Great Prince", where Michael's God and Father is The King Ruler of the Universe, i.e. God being greater than ALL (John 10:29), including greater than Prince Michael/Christ (John 14:28).

Daniel 12:1-2
12:1 And at that time shall Michael [the Archangel] (Eno. 20:5; 36:1; 40:8; 58:1; 59:9; 57:1-2; 70:4; Rev. 12:7; Sura 2:98) stand up, the Great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the Book [of Life] (Rev. 13:8; 17:8; 20:15; 21:27; Sura 83:20).
12:2 And many of them that sleep in "the dust of the earth" (Gen. 13:16; 28:14) shall awake, some to Everlasting Life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.

for by Him all things in heaven and on earth were created, things visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or powers - all things have been created through Him and for Him (Colossians 1:16).
Colossians 1:12-15
1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, Which hath made us meet to be sharers of the inheritance of the holy people in Light:
1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into The Kingdom of His dear Son:
1:14 In whom we have redemption through his (Jesus') blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins:
1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, THE FIRSTBORN (i.e. first-created) OF EVERY CREATURE (a creature is obviously CREATED):

There is a further problem with the identification of Jesus with Michael. The Book of Jude says:

But when the archangel Michael contended with the Devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).
Further proving that Prince Michael is Christ, our Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.

His Name Bears Testimony

Michael, the one who is closest in proximity to the Lord at the top of the angelic creation, bears testimony to the great gap between the Creator and the created. His name means, "who is like God?"
No one is closer to God than Michael.

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify Thou me with Thine Own self with the glory which I had with Thee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS*.

*When it was just Father (God) and Michael, before the creation of everything else, including all of the other angels (e.g. Gabriel, who likewise is a "Son of God", just not the first).

There is no biblical evidence to equate Michael the archangel with Jesus. To the contrary, Jesus and Michael are two different personages. Michael is the highest of the angels - an order of created beings while Jesus is the LORD GOD not a created being.
Nowhere in Scripture does it tell us that Jesus was not created. In fact, we know that Jesus was BORN of the virgin body of Mary, and called "the Son of Man" dozens of times in the Gospel accounts, something that both God and Jesus said God could NEVER be (Num. 23:19; John 4:24).

The books of Daniel and Revelation provide us with irrefutable proof that Prince Michael is, in fact, Christ.

Daniel 10:21 But I will show thee that which is noted in the Scripture of Truth: and [there is] NONE that holdeth with me in these things, EXCEPT Michael your prince (Eno. 67:1; Rev. 5:3; 5; 9 & 12:7).

How could Prince Michael not be Christ (The Word of God) if Prince Michael tells Daniel that NONE can show Daniel that which is noted in the Scripture of Truth (The Word of God) other than Prince Michael? Is Prince Michael/Christ not the ONLY Teacher (Matt. 23:10) and Mediator between God and men (1 Tim. 2:5)?

Here is Prince Michael/Christ having Daniel "seal" the Book (Bible) until the end-times (now):

Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and "seal" the Book (Rev. 5:1-5), [even] to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and [evil] knowledge (1 Tim. 5:20) shall be increased.

And here is Prince Michael/Christ -- during His Second Coming before Judgment Day -- breaking the "seals" and opening the book (Bible) that Prince Michael/Christ had Daniel seal:

Revelation 5:1-5
5:1 And I saw in the right hand of Him that sat on the throne a Book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals (seven in God's "Code" means ALL or COMPLETELY).
5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the Book, and to loose the seals thereof?
5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the Book, neither to look thereon.
5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the Book, neither to look thereon.
5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Source of David, hath prevailed to open the Book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Everyone should be rejoicing to have this great wisdom about the Great Prince Michael shared with them during these end-times, rather than fighting against the Truth to protect their religious traditions.

 

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The biblical evidence does not substantiate this. The fact that Michael is called a chief prince only means that he has authority over other angels- not over everything that exists.

In addition, Jesus is never called the chief prince in Scripture. On the contrary He is the king of kings and Lord of Lords.

And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS" (Revelation 19:16).

Though Michael has protected Israel, it is as God's representative. It is ultimately the Lord, not Michael, who is protecting His chosen people.

Voice Like

The fact that Christ comes with the voice, or cry of command, like an archangel does not mean that He is one. The voice He uses will be "like" or "as" that of an archangel. In other words, a powerful voice.

One Of The Chief Princes

In addition, Michael is called one of the chief princes.

But the prince of the kingdom of Persia opposed me twenty-one days. So Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, and I left him there with the prince of the kingdom of Persia (Daniel 10:13).

This means that he is one of a group of princes. We do not know how large the group is, but he is not in a class by himself. The Bible says that Jesus is the unique Son of God.

No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made Him known (John 1:18).

Michael Highest Of Angels

Michael is the highest of the angels - an order of created beings. He is one of the angels, he is not the Creator of the angels as the Bible says that Jesus is.

for by Him all things in heaven and on earth were created, things visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or powers - all things have been created through Him and for Him (Colossians 1:16).

Jude

There is a further problem with the identification of Jesus with Michael. The Book of Jude says:

But when the archangel Michael contended with the Devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).

Michael is obviously not the Lord. He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus has no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord.

Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " Then the Devil left Him, and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him (Matthew 4:10,11).

His Name Bears Testimony

Michael, the one who is closest in proximity to the Lord at the top of the angelic creation, bears testimony to the great gap between the Creator and the created. His name means, "who is like God?" The answer, of course, is no one. The closer one gets to God, the more they realize their own nothingness and His greatness. Neither Michael, nor any of the angels, is like God.

Summary

There is no biblical evidence to equate Michael the archangel with Jesus. To the contrary, Jesus and Michael are two different personages. Michael is the highest of the angels - an order of created beings while Jesus is the LORD GOD not a created being.
You beat me to it... well said.

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Sons of God, Genesis Six
v. the Sethite Theory

It's only 11 minutes-- he gets right to the point. : )
 

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Satan IS WORKING to the utmost to make himself as God and to destroy all who oppose his power. And today the world is bowing before him. His power is received as the power of God. The prophecy of the Revelation is being fulfilled, that "all the world wondered after the beast" (Revelation 13:3). {6T 14,3}

Men in their blindness boast of wonderful progress and enlightenment; but to the eye of the Omnipotence are revealed the inward guilt and depravity. The heavenly watchers see the earth filled with violence and crime. Wealth is obtained by every species of robbery, not robbery of men only, but of God. Men are using His means to gratify their selfishness. Everything they can grasp is made to minister to their greed. Avarice and sensuality prevail. Men cherish the attributes of the first great deceiver. They have accepted him as God, and have become imbued with his spirit.
{6T 14.4}

Thus, so many, even now, imbued by his spirit, in their hearts are declaring the words of Satan (the great deceiver), "I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High" (Isaiah 14:13-14).
 

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I am a Bible Christian. If you've not read everything the Bible says about Michael then you don't know what you're talking about yet. I'll discuss it with you after you've studied it (if you choose to).

Michael is Jesus, its one of His titles. As I said He does things only God can do and not created beings which all angels are. If He raises the dead at the second coming and yet the the Bible tells us in other parts that Jesus is the One who raises the dead when He comes the second time, they are the same Person unless you think two people raise the dead at the second coming. Because an angel definitely will not raise the righteous dead with his voice at the second coming. Only our Saviour who died for us. Lord of lords and King of kings.

My thread has more information and scripture to prove that.

This is the truth of the Bible whether you agree or not!
I don't agree with what you espoused its not correct michael is an arch angel not another title - angel and GOD (JESUS) are different. Maybe just maybe read the bible without your preconditioned bias. (aka being told what to believe or think) I agree with alot of what you do post however here its just plain wrong. But when you need to sell stuff like ellen white i guess you will twist scripture to fit what you want. Shes nothing but a wolf in sheep's clothing if this is who your listening to.
 

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Isaiah 9:6-7
9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
9:7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with Judgment and with Justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the "I AM" Lord of hosts will perform this.


During Christ's Second Coming (Rev. 19:11-16), when God formally gives Christ the Throne of David, as promised (Luke 1:31-33).

Luke 1:31-33
1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS (Saviour).
1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of The Highest: and the Lord God his Father SHALL GIVE unto him the Throne of David:
1:33 And he shall reign over the "House of Jacob/Israel" for ever; and of his Kingdom there shall be no end.

God very obviously doesn't need anyone to give Him anything, does He?


It actually speaks of Christ as the firstborn (first-created) of every creature (Col. 1:12-15) and the beginning of the creation of God (Rev. 3:14). And this:

Hebrews 1:1-4
1:1 God, Who at sundry times and in diverse manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the Prophets,
1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [His] Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;
1:3 Who being the brightness of [His] glory, and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by The Word of His power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of His Majesty on high;
1:4 Being MADE (i.e. created by God) so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance (as the firstborn/first-created angel/son of God) obtained a more excellent name than they.


Yes, Michael is the firstborn/first-created Angel/Son of God, hence Michael's designation as "The Great Prince", where Michael's God and Father is The King Ruler of the Universe, i.e. God being greater than ALL (John 10:29), including greater than Prince Michael/Christ (John 14:28).

Daniel 12:1-2
12:1 And at that time shall Michael [the Archangel] (Eno. 20:5; 36:1; 40:8; 58:1; 59:9; 57:1-2; 70:4; Rev. 12:7; Sura 2:98) stand up, the Great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the Book [of Life] (Rev. 13:8; 17:8; 20:15; 21:27; Sura 83:20).
12:2 And many of them that sleep in "the dust of the earth" (Gen. 13:16; 28:14) shall awake, some to Everlasting Life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.


Colossians 1:12-15
1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, Which hath made us meet to be sharers of the inheritance of the holy people in Light:
1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into The Kingdom of His dear Son:
1:14 In whom we have redemption through his (Jesus') blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins:
1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, THE FIRSTBORN (i.e. first-created) OF EVERY CREATURE (a creature is obviously CREATED):


Further proving that Prince Michael is Christ, our Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.


No one is closer to God than Michael.

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify Thou me with Thine Own self with the glory which I had with Thee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS*.

*When it was just Father (God) and Michael, before the creation of everything else, including all of the other angels (e.g. Gabriel, who likewise is a "Son of God", just not the first).



Nowhere in Scripture does it tell us that Jesus was not created. In fact, we know that Jesus was BORN of the virgin body of Mary, and called "the Son of Man" dozens of times in the Gospel accounts, something that both God and Jesus said God could NEVER be (Num. 23:19; John 4:24).

The books of Daniel and Revelation provide us with irrefutable proof that Prince Michael is, in fact, Christ.

Daniel 10:21 But I will show thee that which is noted in the Scripture of Truth: and [there is] NONE that holdeth with me in these things, EXCEPT Michael your prince (Eno. 67:1; Rev. 5:3; 5; 9 & 12:7).

How could Prince Michael not be Christ (The Word of God) if Prince Michael tells Daniel that NONE can show Daniel that which is noted in the Scripture of Truth (The Word of God) other than Prince Michael? Is Prince Michael/Christ not the ONLY Teacher (Matt. 23:10) and Mediator between God and men (1 Tim. 2:5)?

Here is Prince Michael/Christ having Daniel "seal" the Book (Bible) until the end-times (now):

Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and "seal" the Book (Rev. 5:1-5), [even] to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and [evil] knowledge (1 Tim. 5:20) shall be increased.

And here is Prince Michael/Christ -- during His Second Coming before Judgment Day -- breaking the "seals" and opening the book (Bible) that Prince Michael/Christ had Daniel seal:

Revelation 5:1-5
5:1 And I saw in the right hand of Him that sat on the throne a Book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals (seven in God's "Code" means ALL or COMPLETELY).
5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the Book, and to loose the seals thereof?
5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the Book, neither to look thereon.
5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the Book, neither to look thereon.
5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Source of David, hath prevailed to open the Book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Everyone should be rejoicing to have this great wisdom about the Great Prince Michael shared with them during these end-times, rather than fighting against the Truth to protect their religious traditions.

Don't get me started with your disjoined wrong jahtruth BS
 

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1. What is Evil: Satan (Anthropomorphic/Transcendent)
The idea of a transcendent evil being arose in parallel with the development of monotheism in Judaeo-Christianity. Originally, Satan was one of God’s angels. But as God became more monotheistic, some of the angels within his pantheon were synchronized into a single supernatural adversary. Many of the names and titles in this quadrant have etymologies connected to older polytheistic pantheons and divine assemblies. They emerged during the apocalyptic period of Jewish and Christian literature (2nd century BC to 2nd century AD).
These apocalyptic visions were associated with radical messianic sects eventually distanced themselves from anthropomorphic depictions of both God and Satan, although these visualizations have remained popular among the masses. During the Protestant Reformation, a new kind of theology called demonology emerged which enflamed popular paranoia over witches and other Satanic influences in society. The lurid depictions of demonologists continue to haunt modern culture, blossoming into perennial hysterias and Satanic panics.
Those who fixate on this category risk becoming one with the demonic forces they oppose. During the witch burning craze, who were the evil ones, the women burned at the stake or their accusers?
 

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1. What is Evil: Satan (Anthropomorphic/Transcendent)
The idea of a transcendent evil being arose in parallel with the development of monotheism in Judaeo-Christianity. Originally, Satan was one of God’s angels. But as God became more monotheistic, some of the angels within his pantheon were synchronized into a single supernatural adversary. Many of the names and titles in this quadrant have etymologies connected to older polytheistic pantheons and divine assemblies. They emerged during the apocalyptic period of Jewish and Christian literature (2nd century BC to 2nd century AD).
These apocalyptic visions were associated with radical messianic sects eventually distanced themselves from anthropomorphic depictions of both God and Satan, although these visualizations have remained popular among the masses. During the Protestant Reformation, a new kind of theology called demonology emerged which enflamed popular paranoia over witches and other Satanic influences in society. The lurid depictions of demonologists continue to haunt modern culture, blossoming into perennial hysterias and Satanic panics.
Those who fixate on this category risk becoming one with the demonic forces they oppose. During the witch burning craze, who were the evil ones, the women burned at the stake or their accusers?
It should be self-evident that the evil that continually transpires on this planet is centralized, i.e. controlled from a single-source/being, aka Lucifer/Satan/Iblis.

In its first chapter the Bible provides us a spiritual description of the need to separate those who opposed God from those who did not (where the "waters" are the people/Beings - Isa. 17:12-13; Rev. 17:15).

It then confirms the details of the war that took place in heaven ~ 6000 years ago, that resulted in one-third of the spiritual Beings (aka "angels") being banished along with Lucifer/Satan/Iblis TO THE EARTH, where all of us except for Satan agreed to be rehabilitated inside of human bodies.

So Lucifer/Satan/Iblis is NOT a figure of our imagination; he is the source of evil that influences and controls imagination (Gen. 6:5). And the mechanism/link whereby Satan accomplishes that is through our ego/"self", which he manipulates, IF allowed. And most believe that evil voice inside of their head spurring them on to be even more selfish and evil is their best friend.

 
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Satan is a 'Master Manipulator', for example among other things he's persuaded JW's not to celebrate Jesus's birth at Christmas.
I think he must have picked up on a "vanity flaw" in their minds and whispered in their ears that by adopting the beliefs below, they know more than the rest of us and are 'something special'..:)

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It should be self-evident that the evil that continually transpires on this planet is centralized, i.e. controlled from a single-source/being, aka Lucifer/Satan/Iblis.

In its first chapter the Bible provides us a spiritual description of the need to separate those who opposed God from those who did not (where the "waters" are the people/Beings - Isa. 17:12-13; Rev. 17:15).

It then confirms the details of the war that took place in heaven ~ 6000 years ago, that resulted in one-third of the spiritual Beings (aka "angels") being banished along with Lucifer/Satan/Iblis TO THE EARTH, where all of us except for Satan agreed to be rehabilitated inside of human bodies.

So Lucifer/Satan/Iblis is NOT a figure of our imagination; he is the source of evil that influences and controls imagination (Gen. 6:5). And the mechanism/link whereby Satan accomplishes that is through our ego/"self", which he manipulates, IF allowed. And most believe that evil voice inside of their head spurring them on to be even more selfish and evil is their best friend.

Self-evident??? You're obviously wrong about that.

Four out of ten Christians (40%) strongly agreed that Satan “is not a living being but is a symbol of evil.” -- The Barna survey:
A new nationwide survey of adults’ spiritual beliefs, conducted by The Barna Group, suggests that Americans who consider themselves to be Christian have a diverse set of beliefs –but many of those beliefs are contradictory or, at least, inconsistent. The survey explored beliefs about spiritual beings, the influence of faith on their life, views of the Bible, and reactions to faiths other than their own.
 

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Satan is a 'Master Manipulator', for example among other things he's persuaded JW's not to celebrate Jesus's birth at Christmas.
I think he must have picked up on a "vanity flaw" in their minds and whispered in their ears that by adopting the beliefs below, they know more than the rest of us and are 'something special'..:)

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And, with the exception of the stake (Jesus was crucified on a cross, just as the brass serpent in the wilderness was placed on a cross and lifted up (Num. 21:6-9; John 3:14-15), all of the above beliefs are Scriptural, i.e. straight out of the Bible.

X-MAS

Jesus was born in the spring, when lambs are born, NOT in the dead of winter, on the pagan yuletide/saturnalia/x-mass. It should be self-evident that the census compelling Joseph and Mary and thousands of others to travel, wasn't scheduled for the dead of winter.

ISHTAR

The pagan Ishtar/Easter, with its Easter eggs and Easter bunnies, has NOTHING to do with the Passover, suffering, crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus.

HUMAN BIRTH-DAYS

Birthdays are celebrated by humans, who are actually proud of having spent yet another year imprisoned in this lunatic asylum/prison reform school for the criminally insane. Christ, through the mouth of Jesus, told us that THE FLESH PROFITETH NOTHING (John 6:63), so why would anyone celebrate another year in the flesh?

BLOOD

Regarding blood, we are not even supposed to eat blood of any kind, much less receive a transfusion of someone else's blood from (witch) doctors/physicians and pharmacists, all of which God has CONDEMNED (Exod. 22:18; 2 Chron. 16:12; Gal. 5:19-21; Rev. 18:23).

Leviticus 17:11-14
17:11 For the life of the FLESH [is] in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the Altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it [is] the blood [that] maketh an atonement for the soul.
17:12 Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.
17:13 And whatsoever man [there be] of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust.
17:14 For [it is] the life of all flesh; the blood of it [is] for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh [is] the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.

Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and [from] fornication, and [from] things strangled, and [from] blood.

Acts 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Today, it is widely accepted that the blood contains "pathogens", which is why it should not be transferred from one to another.

CROSSES (making them, selling them, wearing them, possessing them or display them...as is the case in most "Christian" churches)

Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee ANY graven image, or ANY likeness [of ANY thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth [neither shalt thou possess them if others make them]:

CHURCHES


As it says in Scripture, God does NOT dwell in churches (Isa. 66:1; Acts 7:48; Acts 17:24), which are ALL satanic places of business, where the Word of God is mixed with the deceitful traditions of men and whored for filthy lucre, as if it's possible to buy the stairway to heaven. Christ's COMMUNITY (ekklesia) has absolutely NOTHING to do with churches. Only heathens and hypocrites go to church (or "Kingdom halls") as Christ -Jesus said when COMMANDING us NOT to go to such places (Matt. 6:5-8).

It should be obvious from what's been shared above how easy it is for Lucifer/Satan/Iblis to manipulate people to do his will, by conning them with their "traditions" and through their egos into believing it is their own (selfish) will. We should instead be learning to DO God's Will (Matt. 6:9-13), which requires crucifying the "self" DAILY (Luke 9:23; Luke 14:26-27).

If you will hold the body's arms straight out from its sides, and look into the mirror, THAT is the only cross one needs to concern themselves with, to follow Christ's COMMANDS and His Example, and learn to do God's Will.
 

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You may wish for some in-depth insight into the pre-Christian Baphometic form of Satan in particular.

What is the truth about this particular pre-Christian form of Satan? Would the truth come from his own worshippers and devotees? Do they have insight that we do not have?

There are several left hand path occult magickal orders, where devoted LHP students (initiates) and advanced students (adepts) of Baphomet, that worship this deity.

One particular order, called the 0rd0 Baph0metis, has a high priest named Walt3r Jant$ch1k, who wrote a Baphometic grimoire for this order, called Der 0rd0 Baph0metis.
You can read part of the grimoire for insight below.


Not only this, there is an initiate/adept of Baphomet on Instagram named

r o b e r t m o r t e m


who also may provide you with insight on Baphomet.

In one of his posts, he wrote the following:

" The term “Satanism” is as an English transliterative term, initially applied to the worship of Satan and Devils. Before Anton LaVey, Arthur Waite was utilizing the word Satanism properly—pertaining to the pantheistic ideology of the Baphomet (Ceremonial Book of Magic, 1911). This is Satan, as Eliphas Levi notes in his section on the Blazing Pentagram.

The Goat of Mendes was worshipped as Amet in ancient Egypt, and at the solar eclipse of Amet-Ra (the Sun covered by the Moon), this was understood as the Bap-Amet (immersion of Amet in “Khonsu“, which was healing/water). This corresponding phenomenon is illustrated via the caduceus symbol (contained in Levi’s portrayal), and where the Christians stole the term “baptism” from (βάπτισμα) which is rooted in βάπ, as its lexical form well illustrates. Thus, “Baphomet” was exalted in reverence and sanctity.

Greco-Egyptian works, such as the Greek Magic Papyri, were no doubt central in this sort of primitive esoteric astrology. And moreover, were shared by the Babylonians in their adoration of Humbaba and Pazuzu (who contains the same exact Hermetical arm positioning). The pre-Christian pagan form of Satan is the pure and original form. Such is True Devil Worship."

Robert Mortem
 

A Freeman

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Self-evident??? You're obviously wrong about that.
Am I? Or is that Satan, through your "self" trying to con you into believing that, to protect your fragile ego?

Four out of ten Christians (40%) strongly agreed that Satan “is not a living being but is a symbol of evil.” -- The Barna survey:
Who cares what others mistakenly believe? The Bible CONDEMNS "Christianity" and ALL organized religion, because its spiritually blind teachers teach the traditions of men (all of which are satanic), which make the Commandments of God of no effect.

A new nationwide survey of adults’ spiritual beliefs, conducted by The Barna Group, suggests that Americans who consider themselves to be Christian have a diverse set of beliefs –but many of those beliefs are contradictory or, at least, inconsistent. The survey explored beliefs about spiritual beings, the influence of faith on their life, views of the Bible, and reactions to faiths other than their own.
And why do you suppose that is? The trademark satanic tactic -- which very few seem to have taken any notice of -- is DIVIDE AND CONQUER/RULE.

That's why Lucifer/Satan/Iblis created ALL organized religion (including "atheism"), because it divides people into their various sects/denominations/cults, etc., so they can endlessly argue about what they believe vs. what the thousands of other groups believe, never realizing that they are ALL wrong and are being led astray TO THEIR DESTRUCTION (Isa. 3:12).

So you're literally using the most obvious satanic tactic there is to try to explain why Satan doesn't exist, exactly as Satan duped you into doing (through your ego/"self").
 
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Those who fixate on this category risk becoming one with the demonic forces they oppose.
Alan. :)
Good point... glad you could join us.

During the witch burning craze, who were the evil ones, the women burned at the stake or their accusers?
The latter, indeed.
If you've read the history of Witchduck Road, you know there was no option for innocence. Grace of God, this lovely (+ notably, envied) woman had the nerve to live. Witchduck Road

A little insight ( drags out soapbox )
This isn't about the devil, per se... but the principles of honesty, integrity and transparency. We're free to follow any Prophet we choose-- and we're free to tell everyone why they should believe her, too.

We are not free to proselytize innocent readers into our religion, by telling them our Prophet's words are in the Bible -- nor can we expect others to ignore the deceit. We have a responsibility to be honest about the source of our beliefs (imho).
People believe what they want to believe no matter how illogical it seems to others.
I agree.
Who am I to question the mystery of paradox?
 

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How do we know Satan is a Man? Probably is transgender.
Idk.
If we want to be technical about it, he's not human.
He can appear as anything he wants, which gives him quite the advantage over us-- all spirits do, really. The vast majority of us can't see what's in the aether.
(idk about you, but I'm good with that.)
 

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He is an angel so he has no gender.
Have you even read the Bible?

Every reference to angels in Scripture is in the masculine gender. The Greek word for “angel” in the New Testament, angelos, is in the masculine form. In fact, a feminine form of angelos does not exist. There are three genders in grammar—masculine (he, him, his), feminine (she, her, hers), and neuter (it, its). Angels are never referred to in any gender other than masculine. In the many appearances of angels in the Bible, never is an angel referred to as “she” or “it.” Furthermore, when angels appeared, they were always dressed as human males (Genesis 18:2, 16; Ezekiel 9:2). No angel ever appears in Scripture dressed as a female.
The only named angels in the Bible—Michael and Gabriel—are referred to in the masculine. “Michael and his angels” (Revelation 12:7); “Mary was greatly troubled at his [Gabriel’s] words” (Luke 1:29). Other references to angels are always in the masculine gender. In Judges 6:21, the angel holds a staff in “his” hand. Zechariah asks an angel a question and reports that “he” answered (Zechariah 1:19). The angels in Revelation are all spoken of as “he” and their possessions as “his” (Revelation 10:1, 5; 14:19; 16:2, 4, 17; 19:17; 20:1).
 
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