Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

[vikagrableva04]

I'm sorry it's not related to K-pop but people can’t see that this is a real ritual? They also keep saying it's just part of the show and it's okay

 

[minnie82]

I'm sorry it's not related to K-pop but people can’t see that this is a real ritual? They also keep saying it's just part of the show and it's okay

yes and that's very obvious, plus Anitta looks an he to me, you could post this also in the Conspiracy theory thread

 

[minnie82]

from Hwasa new comeback Na

 

[arhur12]

i dont really care for labels of who is or isnt whatever thats the same sort of shtick we used to get for liking bgs back in the early 00s its a tiring mindset to have if an idol can play an instrument well then they a musician end of story. the only thing that bothers me is that my faves are still tied to this morally corrupt perverted kpop system. i also dont really care how they are dressed either its such a minor reason to not like idol performances so i do agree to disagree with u there cause theres other aspects to them that ppl really do like abt idol groups. its just the system theyre in thats wayward and backwards or stuck in its ways that i find to be quite babaric really.

I do enjoy flashy performances that's what got me interested in Kpop. I don't dislike the outfits or the props and don't think there is anything inherently wrong with idols focusing on these things but I think since 4th gen the focus has shifted too much from idols being singers to them being mere performers. They are too focused on the choreographies and visuals nowadays with no attention on live vocals. When they do sing live the backtrack is so loud it's hard to tell live parts from lip synced parts. It's frustrating because when artists lip sync it takes away a lot of energy from the performance and there's no room for improvisation that's why I can't enjoy Kpop performances nowadays. It used to be better in 2nd and 3rd gen but since COVID Lipsync has become the standard for most Kpop live performances.

 

[arhur12]

i also think that what set idol groups back compare to western groups is kpop doesnt really let them have longevity and it sort of has them age out of the system or disband if they have done military

This is true. Even in the west artists start getting better 4-5 years into their careers while in Kpop that's close to their retirement age. I think the main problem is ageism and too much focus on beauty. If a company debuts an idols above 18 they are considered too old by Kpop fans and by the time they reach 30 they are considered "hags". If you compare this to western countries rn they have TS who had her biggest hits after she hit 30 and Beyonce who is in her 40s still topping charts and selling out tours. The way idols are marketed with pure innocent image and the boyfriend/girlfriend roleplay makes their careers short because men and women in their 30s doing that is not appealing or cute. Teenagers don't want to stan older people and adults aren't interested in fanservice because most people have IRL relationships by the time they reach 30. I think Kpop fans take Kpop too seriously. Kpop is not even taken seriously in Korea and Idols are only popular among teenagers. The way Kpop is marketed only people who have a lot of free time and no real life responsibilities can participate in fandom activities i.e tweens and teenagers. When you are an adult with a job and have bills to pay you cannot spend mindlessly on mass buying albums or streaming songs endlessly just to make your favourites chart and without fandom power most groups wouldn't last beyond 7 years. That kind of behaviour is looked down upon in adults and you are seen as immature anywhere in the world for it. So, really the whole system is flawed and not sustainable at all. Companies have to disband groups when they are no longer profitable because there's a lot of money that goes into each group's CB unlike the west where artists can release albums without doing a lot of marketing and promotion.

 

[randomuser123]

This is true. Even in the west artists start getting better 4-5 years into their careers while in Kpop that's close to their retirement age. I think the main problem is ageism and too much focus on beauty. If a company debuts an idols above 18 they are considered too old by Kpop fans and by the time they reach 30 they are considered "hags". If you compare this to western countries rn they have TS who had her biggest hits after she hit 30 and Beyonce who is in her 40s still topping charts and selling out tours. The way idols are marketed with pure innocent image and the boyfriend/girlfriend roleplay makes their careers short because men and women in their 30s doing that is not appealing or cute. Teenagers don't want to stan older people and adults aren't interested in fanservice because most people have IRL relationships by the time they reach 30. I think Kpop fans take Kpop too seriously. Kpop is not even taken seriously in Korea and Idols are only popular among teenagers. The way Kpop is marketed only people who have a lot of free time and no real life responsibilities can participate in fandom activities i.e tweens and teenagers. When you are an adult with a job and have bills to pay you cannot spend mindlessly on mass buying albums or streaming songs endlessly just to make your favourites chart and without fandom power most groups wouldn't last beyond 7 years. That kind of behaviour is looked down upon in adults and you are seen as immature anywhere in the world for it. So, really the whole system is flawed and not sustainable at all. Companies have to disband groups when they are no longer profitable because there's a lot of money that goes into each group's CB unlike the west where artists can release albums without doing a lot of marketing and promotion.

agree it makes kpop seem so weak and incapable of handling all that goes on within it in fact u see the way the groups fail to put their fans in their places when they have sent hate trains to minors, someone i was commenting on their video claimed hate train did ahyeon some good so theyre practically normalising toxicity. the thing is a lot of the "scandals" also tend to ruin an idols potential even if its only a minor or non issue in the first place, theres folk around the idols who want to sabotage things and give them less than what they deserve in general (like itzy were shelved until lia came back from injury) and even when a member or two take a hiatus from the group there is not much else they usually do, a lot of idol groups tend to seem to heavily rely on both staffs and social media for their engagements and popularity growth, youd have thought a lot of their songs would keep the monentum going regardless but some idols seem to fall under backlash for non bad songs versus actually bad songs. i also think they are cutting corners in general for example 2nd were all about genuine singing skills but as more groups are debuting i can only think of a few genuinely good singers and even my faves from older groups dont fit into the category of good singers cause they have often cur corners on their performances. look at lisa at coachella versus vma... she couldve vocally went all out at vma but the songs is whats letting them down backing tracks too. at least ik my current faves sing live but other groups esp big 4 can get away with not being at their best vocally. that and pair it with the overly high energetic complex choreography and kpop can really make it seem like they have no singing abilities

i dont particularly have an irl relationship myself but the groups tend to be quite sweet and interesting with their dynamics and other reasons for wanting to follow but i do agree that adult idols seem to get it worse compared to young fresh idols who just left high school to debut there seems to be more hysteria around the youngins than the adult idols not all but some definitatelt fall under this category. that and when a song is released nowadays its automatically denounced as a bad song so that restricts the potential for a newly debuted group to reach its peak. i do think older idol groups tend to have more age variant in their audiences and i notice recently idols being shocked at certain fans ages like if they are 13/12 etc etc.