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thats also why i do pity idols to some extent but at the same time entertainment in general is littered with crimes and all sorts of other shit we dont know about. ik its sensitive topic but do u think there'll be another situation like sulli or jonghyun? it seems to be every 4-5 years or so if they cant offload them as criminals like taeil, woojin and the likes then it seems the only way they get rid of them is if they make it look like a suicide done by the idol themselves even if that isnt actually what happens cause we dont know what actually happens lol
 
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i have another question and i dont know if its genuinely what male idols choose themselves or if its the stylists choice but for idols who want to maybe dress genderless what do u think is their influence? for some idols it works but not for all of them and i think the indistry does like the feminine but masculine flowerboy look on idols. when i think of genderless idols i would say taemin, jimin perhaps?, seonghwa has openly spoken about it so thats what caught my attention and im sure theres few others where they look masculine but are genderless in their style bit like harry styles. i wonder if its their own choice or if it fits with their music style?
 
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This guy is a famous Indian rapper who used to do Illuminati hands signs and there was speculation about him being into Satanism/Illuminati. Now, he confirmed in this podcast that yes indeed he was attracted to Freemason/Illuminati and he even visited a Satanic church. I will translate for you guys what he says in this video

"He says he met this woman in England who was a friend of one of his friends. She invited him to a restaurant saying you have to visit "this place". After shooting when he went there the restaurant was empty with only the bartender and the lady were there the lady sat down with him and they started to talk they didn't order anything but he was served Mint Chicken which was his favourite food. He said he was surprised how this lady knew what his favourite food was and he said the Mint Chicken tasted exactly like the Mint Chicken he had been eating for years from a restaurant in Bangkok so he was very surprised and asked the lady what is this? And the lady said "you haven't seen anything yet" then she asked him to go upstairs with him. Upstairs there was a secret door which led to a Satanic Church. He says he hasn't converted fully to Satanism i.e He didn't worship Satan but at that time he was very attracted to Satanic things. He would do Satanic symbols, drink alcohol, do drugs all the evil stuff so he became excited and sat down on one of the chairs in that church and started to take pictures. Then the lady asked him "What do you want to do in life" and he said "I'll do what I want to do" she said "come to us, we will get you everything. Boys come here with bigger plans. The councils, sets they will help them". He says at that time he understood he won't be able to do what they are signing him up for but he was excited because he thought it was an experience for him. He uploaded a picture on FB with him sitting on a masonic chair with one of their staffs but it was taken down by his PR within 1 hour. After this he says he became fascinated with Illuminati culture for a while. When asked by the host if he believes the conspiracies about Illuminati ruling the world and music industry are true he says he doesn't know but he thinks there is definitely some truth to the claims and he said powerful people in most industries could be part of the Illuminati/Freemason because he felt a "heavy energy" from that place.
 
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i have another question and i dont know if its genuinely what male idols choose themselves or if its the stylists choice but for idols who want to maybe dress genderless what do u think is their influence? for some idols it works but not for all of them and i think the indistry does like the feminine but masculine flowerboy look on idols. when i think of genderless idols i would say taemin, jimin perhaps?, seonghwa has openly spoken about it so thats what caught my attention and im sure theres few others where they look masculine but are genderless in their style bit like harry styles. i wonder if its their own choice or if it fits with their music style?
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I can speak on Taemin because SHINee were my favourite group in Kpop and because his case is more serious and more about child exploitation and sexualisation of minors in entertainment industry. Taemin actually hated the flower boy look until 2016 and he had a traditional men should look like men and women should look like women belief. He is still very conservative IRL and he only adopts the genderless image because it helped him market his solo to make him stand out from other male idols who were doing more traditionally masculine concepts but he is not like Harry Styles and other western artists he isn't doing this for the gays neither he himself is LGBT or a supporter of it as many I-fans think because he doesn't wear the genderless clothes when he's off-camera and hates going to Fashion events or just in general he is not interested in Fashion.



Also, Min Hee Jin the pedo groomer of New Jeans was fascinated by Taemin and called him her "muse" (along with Krystal of Fx ) which is not a good thing because that woman has been accused of sexualising minors and her room had pictures of naked children and images of girls who worked in age-gap romances. She worked with SHINee during Sherlock era and that photoshoot went viral for the way all members were sexualized and Taemin was still a minor at that time and he even faced harassment from variety show hosts during that era because of the long haired look but MHJ still worked with him even after that and she did the same with his solo debut by not letting him gain weight for Ace photoshoot because she wanted him to look "Youthful" which is another word for "childlike" and Taemin himself said he felt uncomfortable doing that shoot because he was made to do many shirtless scenes which he didn't want to do at that time.

He has also addressed the topic of industry sexualising him and destroying his childhood in Guilty his last comeback under SM. The video showed him and a bunch of children being abducted then getting tortured and brainwashed in a cult like institution which is basically SM and the album was designed such a way it would made the audience feel like stalkers who were spying on a minor Taemin. These aren't just speculations anymore because he has told fans recently and even last year that Guilty is the closest to his real life.

Also, post military he has started to maintain a more muscular physique too because according to rumors he was sexually harrased by men even in the military which may have led to his mental breakdown during enlistment. So, for him I think the flowerboy image was initially imposed on him by creepy men and women like MHJ in SM who gave him a Male Lolita concept because it sells with a certain audience but as he grew up he decided to cash on that image to become more popular as a soloist.
 
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I can speak on Taemin because SHINee were my favourite group in Kpop and because his case is more serious and more about child exploitation and sexualisation of minors in entertainment industry. Taemin actually hated the flower boy look until 2016 and he had a traditional men should look like men and women should look like women belief. He is still very conservative IRL and he only adopts the genderless image because it helped him market his solo to make him stand out from other male idols who were doing more traditionally masculine concepts but he is not like Harry Styles and other western artists he isn't doing this for the gays neither he himself is LGBT or a supporter of it as many I-fans think because he doesn't wear the genderless clothes when he's off-camera and hates going to Fashion events or just in general he is not interested in Fashion.



Also, Min Hee Jin the pedo groomer of New Jeans was fascinated by Taemin and called him her "muse" (along with Krystal of Fx ) which is not a good thing because that woman has been accused of sexualising minors and her room had pictures of naked children and images of girls who worked in age-gap romances. She worked with SHINee during Sherlock era and that photoshoot went viral for the way all members were sexualized and Taemin was still a minor at that time and he even faced harassment from variety show hosts during that era because of the long haired look but MHJ still worked with him even after that and she did the same with his solo debut by not letting him gain weight for Ace photoshoot because she wanted him to look "Youthful" which is another word for "childlike" and Taemin himself said he felt uncomfortable doing that shoot because he was made to do many shirtless scenes which he didn't want to do at that time.

He has also addressed the topic of industry sexualising him and destroying his childhood in Guilty his last comeback under SM. The video showed him and a bunch of children being abducted then getting tortured and brainwashed in a cult like institution which is basically SM and the album was designed such a way it would made the audience feel like stalkers who were spying on a minor Taemin. These aren't just speculations anymore because he has told fans recently and even last year that Guilty is the closest to his real life.

Also, post military he has started to maintain a more muscular physique too because according to rumors he was sexually harrased by men even in the military which may have led to his mental breakdown during enlistment. So, for him I think the flowerboy image was initially imposed on him by creepy men and women like MHJ in SM who gave him a Male Lolita concept because it sells with a certain audience but as he grew up he decided to cash on that image to become more popular as a soloist.
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yes I was quite interested in what taemins experiences were like, I think the same thing happened to some bts members too. I have suspicions that a lot of what kpop stans assume isnt the full truth, for instance like u said taemin not doing it for the reason his fans think also goes to show how close minded kpop still is towards many things that would and are considered normal in the west but it seems less normal for even an idol to be open about their sexuality as well. western celebs seem to have dgaf mentality whilst kpop idols are being heavily repressed and reduced to what the companies think they should be. from the group I like also seemed to have similar experiences whether they admit to it or not, i do think an idol of the group or maybe two of them were SA'd at one point since they go into the kpop scene very young or if they go abroad to america theyre more likely going to be violated some way or other.

the military seems to detwinkify them but in all seriousness I can see why they dont want to go there if thats a true rumors then its quite shitty. taehyung though seems to have handled his service well and hes buffed up quite nicely lost that flowerboy pansy look he had early on for some idols it seems to be a good thing and for others they seem to get worse situations for it.

thanks so very much for the detailed response! i do not like that mhj clown i had suspicions of her from the moment the whole illit and newjeans thing came about.
 
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yes I was quite interested in what taemins experiences were like, I think the same thing happened to some bts members too. I have suspicions that a lot of what kpop stans assume isnt the full truth, for instance like u said taemin not doing it for the reason his fans think also goes to show how close minded kpop still is towards many things that would and are considered normal in the west but it seems less normal for even an idol to be open about their sexuality as well. western celebs seem to have dgaf mentality whilst kpop idols are being heavily repressed and reduced to what the companies think they should be. from the group I like also seemed to have similar experiences whether they admit to it or not, i do think an idol of the group or maybe two of them were SA'd at one point since they go into the kpop scene very young or if they go abroad to america theyre more likely going to be violated some way or other.

the military seems to detwinkify them but in all seriousness I can see why they dont want to go there if thats a true rumors then its quite shitty. taehyung though seems to have handled his service well and hes buffed up quite nicely lost that flowerboy pansy look he had early on for some idols it seems to be a good thing and for others they seem to get worse situations for it.

thanks so very much for the detailed response! i do not like that mhj clown i had suspicions of her from the moment the whole illit and newjeans thing came about.
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It happens to others too one BG did file a lawsuit against their CEO for SA and there are rumors about Produce 101 trainees being groomed. The gay ship baiting and flowerboy look in Kpop is for the female fujoshi crowd who see this as a form of fetish and don't care about LGBTQ in a progressive way. SK men have a fixed and toxic view about masculinity. They judge masculinity of a man by how well he does his military service and how loud, dominating and aggressive he is. If anything the deep fake crisis has proven SK manipulated women around the world by selling the fantasy of male idols and Kdrama leads.

Taemin is really like Chen and Mark but SM gave him the Male Lolita concept. You are probably familiar with how Jive marketed Britney Spears in 1998-2002 as this sweet innocent, Chrisitian virgin who would transform into a sexy hot girl on stage because that concept attracted creepy old men and sold well in conservative America. Yeah!! basically SM pulled that on Taemin.

You are right fans are dumb and misinterpret idols. For example, Shawols are so annoying they claim to be mature than the rest fandoms but they are the worst because since 2020 or more precisely 2018 Taemin had been doing concepts showing himself tied, being abused or being controlled by his dancers/handlers in his MVs and he's done quite a few songs with the theme that his idol persona is fake and he lies to fans because it gives him money and fame. He did back to back such concepts for 3-4 years but every time he released a new video Shawols would say "Ohh he is Kinky", "He is into BDSM" or make it about weird sub-dom fetish. It took him leaving SM and being open about the company not allowing him creative control, and SM imposing styles and images on its idols for some of these people to finally understand what his solo work was about.Taemin literally said 2 weeks ago that his music in SM was "Commercialised" and he had only been singing songs provided to him by SM and about Guilty being closest to his real life but he has to be polite because of NDA's so he didn't expose them outright but told enough that his fans could understand the reality of Kpop idols. But, because he hasn't outright shaded SM Shawols still overlook everything and mostly non-Taemin biased Shawols hate his decision to leave SM because "less SHINee CBs" and have been trying to act dumb about what he meant by "Commercialized Taemin" when its clear as day for anyone who slightly knows how Kpop works that he wanted to say him and SHINee were "Manufactured idols" but they won't even trust the man they claim to stan because it would mean accepting that their favs were just puppets of SM who lie and care about money too are not exactly the creative minds behind SHINee. There is really no hope for these people and you can't even blame the idol in this case because what else could he say without being blacklisted by SM??

I sometimes feel Kpop fans care more about the fantasy of idols than the idols themselves. They objectify idols just as much as companies and often use "numbers" and "achievements" of their favs to feel validated about their own tastes in music. This honestly feels like mental illness or mental retardation because its so hard to explain basic things to Kpop fans I sometimes wonder how do these people pass high school or university??
 
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It happens to others too one BG did file a lawsuit against their CEO for SA and there are rumors about Produce 101 trainees being groomed. The gay ship baiting and flowerboy look in Kpop is for the female fujoshi crowd who see this as a form of fetish and don't care about LGBTQ in a progressive way. SK men have a fixed and toxic view about masculinity. They judge masculinity of a man by how well he does his military service and how loud, dominating and aggressive he is. If anything the deep fake crisis has proven SK manipulated women around the world by selling the fantasy of male idols and Kdrama leads.

Taemin is really like Chen and Mark but SM gave him the Male Lolita concept. You are probably familiar with how Jive marketed Britney Spears in 1998-2002 as this sweet innocent, Chrisitian virgin who would transform into a sexy hot girl on stage because that concept attracted creepy old men and sold well in conservative America. Yeah!! basically SM pulled that on Taemin.

You are right fans are dumb and misinterpret idols. For example, Shawols are so annoying they claim to be mature than the rest fandoms but they are the worst because since 2020 or more precisely 2018 Taemin had been doing concepts showing himself tied, being abused or being controlled by his dancers/handlers in his MVs and he's done quite a few songs with the theme that his idol persona is fake and he lies to fans because it gives him money and fame. He did back to back such concepts for 3-4 years but every time he released a new video Shawols would say "Ohh he is Kinky", "He is into BDSM" or make it about weird sub-dom fetish. It took him leaving SM and being open about the company not allowing him creative control, and SM imposing styles and images on its idols for some of these people to finally understand what his solo work was about.Taemin literally said 2 weeks ago that his music in SM was "Commercialised" and he had only been singing songs provided to him by SM and about Guilty being closest to his real life but he has to be polite because of NDA's so he didn't expose them outright but told enough that his fans could understand the reality of Kpop idols. But, because he hasn't outright shaded SM Shawols still overlook everything and mostly non-Taemin biased Shawols hate his decision to leave SM because "less SHINee CBs" and have been trying to act dumb about what he meant by "Commercialized Taemin" when its clear as day for anyone who slightly knows how Kpop works that he wanted to say him and SHINee were "Manufactured idols" but they won't even trust the man they claim to stan because it would mean accepting that their favs were just puppets of SM who lie and care about money too are not exactly the creative minds behind SHINee. There is really no hope for these people and you can't even blame the idol in this case because what else could he say without being blacklisted by SM??

I sometimes feel Kpop fans care more about the fantasy of idols than the idols themselves. They objectify idols just as much as companies and often use "numbers" and "achievements" of their favs to feel validated about their own tastes in music. This honestly feels like mental illness or mental retardation because its so hard to explain basic things to Kpop fans I sometimes wonder how do these people pass high school or university??
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yes im vageuly familiar with britneys situation but i was only a child when she debuted in the west lmao sometimes i forget about them if theyre from an older time period unless i personally like them. plus the 90s and 00s seem so long ago.

the more i read the more i seem to have mixed feelings like personally id want to do some type of entertainment because on the outside it seems quite highly skilled and if loads of others are doing it why not? but on the inside it seems messed, I dont know fully how much of this I believe without having witnessing it for myself again wouldve helped to have had a sibling in entertainment to know what goes on. now im really quite concerned for my faves theyre not in sm thankfully and the company seems to be somewhat decent to them. but as i say theyre still under kpop system and prolly went through similar things before debut but without knowing them it is hard to assume what must really go on. still id have loved to have at least tried an aspect of entertainment if i had some sibling connection not really kpop but yh wouldve been interesting to say the least. i do think in kpop at least in terms of siblings if one sibling gets in then they both get in if thats what the sibling wants to do, i still feel like they have some choice because the staffs do scout people at random i dont think thats unreasonable to assume they dont want to be idols when many of them clearly do despite all the controlling things and restrictions etc etc. thats what i mean im not dismissing taeimins experiences cause i dont think hes the only one who had such experiences but with the shed load of groups nowadays i find it hard to believe that it wasnt their choice to debut and that they are so heavily programmed. i think in some way it is but other ways it isnt.

i more so wonder about how they (the fans) dont appear as being derranged to the idol groups themselves like the groups enable it and even if some have boundaries they get broken and disprespected all the time regardless of what an idol tries to do
 
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i have another question and i dont know if its genuinely what male idols choose themselves or if its the stylists choice but for idols who want to maybe dress genderless what do u think is their influence? for some idols it works but not for all of them and i think the indistry does like the feminine but masculine flowerboy look on idols. when i think of genderless idols i would say taemin, jimin perhaps?, seonghwa has openly spoken about it so thats what caught my attention and im sure theres few others where they look masculine but are genderless in their style bit like harry styles. i wonder if its their own choice or if it fits with their music style?
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It has to do with my post I wrote here on page 1576 of this megathread:

I don't think the male idols have choices on how they should dress, and their outfits are chosen by their stylists, who may or may not be in on the 1) gay, 2) trans, and 3) feminization of men agendas.

I doubt any male idol would intentionally choose a skirt, dress or female outfit to wear.

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The kpop boygroups are being used by the Zionists for their 1) gay, 2) trans, and 3) feminization of men agendas, I think since at least 2008 when Shinee debuted, since Shinee look a bit feminine with Taemin and Key.

The boygroups before Shinee like Big Bang, and especially Shinhwa, had an actual aggressive masculine image and energy, which is normal to have and is what boygroups should have.

Taemin wears a skirt here:

Key becomes a "leader" in "genderless fashion":
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SHINee's Key discussed his insight on the idea of "genderless fashion" and his involvement in promoting it as a K-Pop idol.
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Some boygroup members, I forgot who, were forced to dress up like women and wear dresses and female hanboks, this is humiliating to them.

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While taboo in many cultures, it is a pretty common sight for males to dress up as females for fun in Asia. In particular, it is common for male K-pop idols to dress up as famous females (i.e Korean Kpop idols, American singers, models, etc) as a treat for their fans at their concerts.What...
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Boygroups, dressed like girls, dancing to girlgroup songs:


The zionists think in racial stereotypes for Asians; the zionists want the whole world to "become submissive as Asians; Klaus Schwab wants this especially.

There's a "conspiracy theory" as to why kpop is being globally promoted, as the zionists may believe that kpop can lead to listeners becoming "submissive" and "effeminate".

Anyway, tldr the Zionists are taking away Korean mens' masculine energy via effeminizing and brainwashing the boygroups so they become feminine and "weak" and don't fight back. They are trying to change all Korean men into feminine-androgynous-tranny-crossdressers.

Somehow this needs to be stopped.
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yes im vageuly familiar with britneys situation but i was only a child when she debuted in the west lmao sometimes i forget about them if theyre from an older time period unless i personally like them. plus the 90s and 00s seem so long ago.

the more i read the more i seem to have mixed feelings like personally id want to do some type of entertainment because on the outside it seems quite highly skilled and if loads of others are doing it why not? but on the inside it seems messed, I dont know fully how much of this I believe without having witnessing it for myself again wouldve helped to have had a sibling in entertainment to know what goes on. now im really quite concerned for my faves theyre not in sm thankfully and the company seems to be somewhat decent to them. but as i say theyre still under kpop system and prolly went through similar things before debut but without knowing them it is hard to assume what must really go on. still id have loved to have at least tried an aspect of entertainment if i had some sibling connection not really kpop but yh wouldve been interesting to say the least. i do think in kpop at least in terms of siblings if one sibling gets in then they both get in if thats what the sibling wants to do, i still feel like they have some choice because the staffs do scout people at random i dont think thats unreasonable to assume they dont want to be idols when many of them clearly do despite all the controlling things and restrictions etc etc. thats what i mean im not dismissing taeimins experiences cause i dont think hes the only one who had such experiences but with the shed load of groups nowadays i find it hard to believe that it wasnt their choice to debut and that they are so heavily programmed. i think in some way it is but other ways it isnt.

i more so wonder about how they (the fans) dont appear as being derranged to the idol groups themselves like the groups enable it and even if some have boundaries they get broken and disprespected all the time regardless of what an idol tries to do
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If your favourites are a BG from 4th-5th gen they are less likely to have faced such issues. Taemin was from 2nd Gen when Kpop wasn't as big as it is today and many idols came from poor backgrounds. Also, he wasn't forced to debut being a soloist was his dream since childhood and that's probably the case for most idols. In the age most trainees are scouted children have dreams of becoming influencers and celebrities. Kpop sells dreams to these children and they join willingly.
Also, this doesn't usually happen to male idols who have a traditionally masculine image. If they are minor or have a flower boy look they might face harassment but still if they come from well-off backgrounds they can avoid this stuff. 2nd gen was f**ked up in general. We had Sulli who was passed around JYJ fighting to end slave contracts idols like Taeyeon saying they were beaten up with chairs by their vocal coaches and K-variety shows bullying and harassing idols on live TV. It was brutal and idols had to hustle to make a decent career. Nowadays Idols come from rich families and don't have to live in such harsh conditions. That's also why idols aren't as talented or passionate as before because most of them don't have to work hard like 2nd gen idols. New Jeans is a perfect example of 4th gen privilege. The worst form of mistreatment these girls faced is a manager allegedly telling their group to "ignore" them. Compare this to JYJ who fought over SM overworking idols and paying idols pennies and New Jeans sound entitled now.
 
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It has to do with my post I wrote here on page 1576 of this megathread:

I don't think the male idols have choices on how they should dress, and their outfits are chosen by their stylists, who may or may not be in on the 1) gay, 2) trans, and 3) feminization of men agendas.

I doubt any male idol would intentionally choose a skirt, dress or female outfit to wear.

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Your theory is correct because feminization of men means Koreans becoming less a threat in case of war. Most male idols only wear gender bending clothes because either their company tells them or they want to manipulate women into thinking they are babygirls who can be trusted so women spend millions on funding their luxurious lifestyle.

Also, I want to say this but I don't think the long skirts male idols wear are them promoting gender bending agenda all the time. Because I am Asian and older men in my country and India still wear "lungi" or "dhoti" which is a basic often unstitched form of skirt. Skirt like bottom wear for men is common in Asian countries and Japanese Kimono for men has a skirt like look. I am sharing below pictures of Bollywood actors Shahrukh Khan and Ranbir Kapoor wearing Lungi which is common male wear in India and isn't seen as feminine at all. I have seen some male idols wear long skirts which resemble Lungi more than skirts for women so I think skirts in Kpop could have initially been inspired by Asian wear for men and they only made it more feminine in recent years to pander to the global audience.
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Min Hee Jin filed an injunction to be reappointed as CEO. So the grooming rumors seem more true now. She made New Jeans do that live to gain public sympathy. Has this ever happened in Kpop? Even Soo Man's loyalists weren't told to do this for him? No one in SM cried for Grandpa when he was kicked out. This woman is definitely sus and I worry for New Jeans because MHJ only cares about money and becoming CEO.
 
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