Is Religion A Form Of Mind Control?

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Yeah, but your in HIS thread that initially asked the question and you're constantly posting bible posts. I think Awoken was looking for a conversation, not constant biblical scripture. He probably thinks it's not furthering the conversation or the OP.
Pretty much nailed it OM
 

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What was controlling you when you felt led to say this?
Controlling me?..... I'm not a model car. Nobody is controlling me, I control myself. I don't need any imaginary friends doing imaginary deeds in my life.

I take full responsibility for my words and actions.

Just get the message that bible quotes belong in the religious section. Not this section.
 

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Controlling me?..... I'm not a model car. Nobody is controlling me, I control myself. I don't need any imaginary friends doing imaginary deeds in my life.

I take full responsibility for my words and actions.

Just get the message that bible quotes belong in the religious section. Not this section.
No Bible. Got it.
 

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Yeah allot of people are indeed influenced by evil spirits. This world is, really. Idk if I am allowed to say that here though?
 

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Ohhh dear.....well, that's clarified one thing.

The wheel is still turning....but the hampster is dead.

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At the risk of annoying you here, consider this. Many who have studied the Bible find that there is “something about it” that sets it apart from other mere literature. For me, I find fulfilled prophecy fascinating e.g.


Of course, if God were real and eternal you would expect nothing less. We have recorded for us words inspired by relationship with the us God, echoing back through the centuries.

1 Corinthians 13 promises that one day, believers will have greater knowledge and capacities than we do at present:

11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
I would imagine that in eternity, we will begin to see many things in the Bible that we had skimmed over, rather like watching a great film where key details had been dropped in all the way through. I don’t know how much time we will spend reading the Bible when we are living in its fullness, but I think there will be a pleasure in looking back and seeing the big picture in a way we can’t comprehend now.

 
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Over two-thirds of the Bible is prophecy, over 99% of which has already been fulfilled in exact and minute detail. Only a complete fool would look at that track record, and mistakenly believe the Bible isn't of divine, extraterrestrial origin, or that the remaining <1% won't likewise be fulfilled in exact and minute detail.

Sadly though, and on topic, NONE of the three "monotheistic" organized religions actually DO what it says in the Bible.

Judaism, which began in Babylon 2600 years ago and is polytheistic in nature, pretends to follow The Law (found in the first five books of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy), but instead follow the man-made (fabricated) book and fake history known as the Talmud, a Hebrew word that means "the (oral) traditions of the elders/fathers". Despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of those who call themselves "Jews" are NOT literal Jews descended from either the tribe of Judah or the two-tribed "House of Judah". And they most certainly are not descended from the other 10 tribes known as the "House of Israel" (Rev. 2:9, 3:9).

Christianity, which began in the 4th century AD, when the Roman Emperor Constantine saw the potential to continue the Roman Empire through the church, which transcends national borders, and proclaimed himself to be the "bishop of bishops" (i.e. the pope), pretends to follow the teachings of Christ, which are also based upon The Law. However, they are actually following the man-made teachings and fake history of the "fathers", the name Roman Catholicism chose for their priests to mock and directly disobey Christ (Matt. 23:8-10). Christianity, which includes not just Roman Catholicism, but also the Protestant denominations that Roman Catholicism gave birth to, is also openly polytheistic, adopting the Babylonian/Roman three god "trinity", which is neither found nor taught anywhere in Scripture and clearly violates the First and Most Important COMMANDment. Anyone or any group that dares to point out the glaring hypocrisy of this idolatrous, man-made three-god doctrine is immediately labeled as "heretical".

Islam, which began in Baghdad/Babylon as well, in the 10th century AD, is likewise polytheistic. It pretends to be based upon the Quran, but instead follows its own man-made (fabricated) collection of books and fake history known as the Hadith, an Arabic word that also means "the (oral) traditions of the elders/fathers". The Quran instructs its readers to read, study and apply the Old Covenant and New Covenant teachings from the Bible, which all of the different sects (e.g. Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Wahhabi, Salafi, Takfiri, etc.) falsely teach has been corrupted, even though the Quran plainly states that the Bible can NEVER be corrupted (Sura 15:9-10) and that no one should be in doubt of the true Bible reaching them (Sura 32:23)

The Old Covenant, New Covenant and Koran (Quran) are literally replete with condemnations of rabbis, priests, pastors and imams, etc., and their evil places of business, known to most as synagogues, churches, mosques and temples, etc.

Of course all of the "Eastern religions" are openly polytheistic too, because none of them properly read or follow their own texts either, which take basic, fundamental principles from the Bible (e.g. destruction of the ego/self, discipline, self-sacrifice for the greater good, reincarnation).

Anyone who actually reads any of these texts, in particular the Bible which is the Source document, should immediately recognize their extraterrestrial origin and the truth contained therein. And anyone who is capable at this point of being honest with themselves should also immediately recognize that NONE of these religions are doing what those texts tell everyone to do, to create the perfect, utopian society that is commonly referred to as the Kingdom of Heaven here on Earth.

Organized religion is, and always has been, a business. Each competing corporate fictional organized religion breaks itself up into franchises, known as denominations, sects, cults, etc., and then spreads like a plague to every street corner, high place, hill, and under every green tree. And the more division and competition there is, the more proficiently those businesses are at keeping people AWAY from our Creator and thus away from learning the basic principles upon which the rest of life in this universe is based.

Only through the use of well-documented mind-control tactics is this level of mind-control possible, i.e. to get so many to accept so many lies, by mixing them with a bit of truth, and to then get so many to vehemently defend those lies.

“The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

-- Morpheus, in the film: The Matrix
 

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At the risk of annoying you here, consider this. Many who have studied the Bible find that there is “something about it” that sets it apart from other mere literature.
I listened to approximately 45 seconds of Brother Alan and then he made the claim that he could prove that his bible wasn't written by man, it was written by God....he then ploughed straight in with bible prophecy thing.

How can I put this? Let's be honest here and admit that you cannot trust history. Even the comparatively short "history" of our own lives (50 years) is full of lies and false narratives....that are now recorded as truth.

So how can you trust any information that is recorded as truth that's been passed down through many many generations?

As far as I'm concerned I've never seen any evidence that God exists, when that evidence presents itself to mee I shall then be a believer.

Any books that come with the claim that they are the only truth you need I tend to stay a fair distance from. I don't want to be indoctrinated in any way.

We are both in separate realms mentally. That's the only way of looking at it.
 

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I listened to approximately 45 seconds of Brother Alan and then he made the claim that he could prove that his bible wasn't written by man, it was written by God....he then ploughed straight in with bible prophecy thing.

How can I put this? Let's be honest here and admit that you cannot trust history. Even the comparatively short "history" of our own lives (50 years) is full of lies and false narratives....that are now recorded as truth.

So how can you trust any information that is recorded as truth that's been passed down through many many generations?

As far as I'm concerned I've never seen any evidence that God exists, when that evidence presents itself to mee I shall then be a believer.

Any books that come with the claim that they are the only truth you need I tend to stay a fair distance from. I don't want to be indoctrinated in any way.

We are both in separate realms mentally. That's the only way of looking at it.
Read the end of Isaiah 52 and 53.

I dare you.

The Book of Isaiah was written about 700bc, but the oldest surviving copy dates to between 351 and 230 BC (using carbon dating).

Despite recording this chapter in the Masoretic text, the Jews who reject the message if this chapter would probably have rather it didn’t exist, but it was there nonetheless, and called by Jews “the Forbidden Chapter”

The key facts of Jesus’s life and death can be verified by hostile witnesses.

Draw your own conclusions.
 
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When I listened to brother Alan for those 45 seconds I'll share with you what came into my head when I'd heard enough.

(Comes with bonus shark footage)


I dare you fo consider that chipmunks can actually talk.

....I know, lost aren't I?
You wish, yet do not wish to know. I get it - I was there once.
 

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When I listened to brother Alan for those 45 seconds I'll share with you what came into my head when I'd heard enough.

(Comes with bonus shark footage)


I dare you fo consider that chipmunks can actually talk.

....I know, lost aren't I?
btw…

 

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The reason that Lucifer/Satan/Iblis has had so much success with ALL corporate fictional organized religions is because he cleverly uses our egos to deceive people into believing their organized religion has it right, and all the others have it wrong. That is how every single organized religion came into existence.

In the Garden of Eden, Father was teaching Adam and Eve how to be good, like He is. And as long they listened to Father alone, there was no confusion. That is why Father COMMANDED them NOT to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good AND evil, for in doing so they would become confused, not being able to discern anymore between the good and the evil.

The exact same recipe is found in ALL organized religion, which takes a bit of the truth and mixes it up with a bunch of lies, to deceive its followers. Each member of every organized religion believes they are on the right path when, in truth, NONE of them are following the Strait and Narrow Way that leads to eternal Life. They ALL, instead, are leading their followers to their destruction.

There is only One Way home and One Example to follow.
 

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Now I'm not being flippant when asking this question but I am of exactly the same opinion as this man, this was posted on another well known forum. It certainly made perfect sense to me...

Quoted from skippytjc on Feb 7th 2005.


More humans have died in the name of God, or a god, than any other cause in the history of mankind. Why is this? Isn’t the belief in a supreme power enlightening and wholesome? How could people, who have dedicated their beliefs and ideals to a power that is the definition of love and kindness, kill each other by the millions and millions?

Its simple: Humans aren’t perfect and humans created God. Thus “God” isn’t perfect.

God is a belief created by man to answer questions that cannot be answered. God IS the answer (at least for now). God is a tool people use to feel comfortable with things or events out of their control. Or seemingly out of their control. God is like divine super glue. God sticks all the pieces together that people seem to have trouble doing themselves.

Is this a horrible thing that people have this belief? Not at all. If it works for you then go with it. The problem with God is, the people who believe in him think that everybody else MUST believe in him. And not just believe in him, but believe EXACTLY what you believe. This is such a strong feeling among believers, they actually think that 100% of people who do not share their belief will go to a horrible place called Hell when they die. Its not even good enough that you believe in God, you must believe in their God.

Some people, will even KILL you for not sharing their exact belief. This has caused more deaths than any other single cause in the history of man. “God” is the worlds #1 terrorist recruiter.

Disturbing isn’t it? But its all true. Or so I think anyways. But that’s part of my point. I am “going to hell” because I don’t believe in a God. But am I really? Does a mans actions determine his fate? Or his beliefs?

For example: I am a nice guy. I am kind and polite and I have no criminal record. I dont drink or smoke and I walk old ladies across the street and I say things like “please” and “thank you”. I smile and do what I can to be pleasant. I have a wonderful wife and son. But I don’t “believe” so I am going to hell. Am I getting it right so far?

Now get this: A man of the cloth, or representative of God can r*pe young boys by the dozens. The whole hierarchy above him can cover it up and make it go away but they all believe. But these people, because they believe, will be forgiven and will go to heaven. A man can brutally murder an old women in her home to steal $10 from her. And so long as he finds God before he dies he will be saved. This makes sense?

Do you know why all this is like it is? Its because people are terrified of not knowing answers to big scary questions. People have developed things like religions to help cope with these questions. And people are so scared of these things, they have programmed themselves into a frenzy of believing. Everybody must believe this, as it justifies their own beliefs. To the point of murder in some cases. It gets to the point that everything that they cannot easily explain in their life is “Gods will”. BAH!!!

Gods will, kills.

Do you know in some ancient cultures they had many gods? They had a god for everything that they couldn’t answer. The Greeks, Incans, Egyptians all had many gods. There was even a Sun god. They believed in their gods as heartily as you believe in yours. If an ancient Incan was in front of you debating their belief in the Sun god, they would be as passionate as you are about your god. But any modern believer knows there is no Sun god, that’s just silly right? But is it?

Incans had no explanation for the Sun. The Sun was everything and all important. A very powerful influence in their lives. But they didn’t know why, so it must be a supreme being. It was the only answer, believe it or die!!! But guess what? They were wrong and religions that worshiped the Sun are no more. Because today we all know what the Sun is and we understand how it effects our lives. No more Sun god.

See where I am going with this? Today there is only one god in all the main stream large scale religions. Why? Because all the “silly” stuff has been explained away. But why is there still any belief at all? Two major reasons:

#1 People are scared to believe anything else. People kill people who don’t believe.
#2 There is still 1 huge scary question that has not been answered. The biggest of all.
-What happens to me when I die?

Because there is no proven answer for this question, the biggest, scariest question of all, people still need something to help their psyche’s cope. As long as this is still up in the air, God will always “exist”.

I know I will get flamed for this next remark, but some weaker people even think that God controls things like passion and desire. Hate and love and emotions in general. This is all bunk. They blame crimes on the Devil and their successes on God. God and the devil are just easy solutions to their weak wills and lack of control over their very HUMAN desires.

One day, when our mothers and fathers stop forcing their kids to believe one thing or another based on their own fears, humans will shed themselves of the plague known as religion. It’s a psychological virus that is the scourge of all mankind. Someday it is quite possible that belief in a God will end humans existence. Not by “Gods” hand, but by our own fears of the unknown. People kill people who don’t believe. Period.

How many people reading my dissertation here will “pray” for me? How many people reading this will wish me to hell for my sacrilege? How many will reply with an attempt at “saving” me? How many will plot to kill me as a heathen?

Well everybody, I don’t need saving. I am content in my own beliefs and I sleep well at night believing them. My failures and successes are my own and I am a very nice, good person with many loving friends and relatives. When I die I am dead and that’s Ok. I also don’t have an issue with people believing in religion per say. After all, if something you believe in makes you feel good then wonderful! But please, please don’t try to infect me with your beliefs, as mine are just fine.

Remember: People that don’t believe in God, rarely care about your belief IN God. You don’t see non believers killing people of religion in an attempt to convert you to non belief. Its because we aren’t scared anymore. Wait, scratch that, we ARE scared. Of YOU! As God has killed more people over belief than any other cause of death in history…
Did not read most of this thread since I can probably get the gist of it. For now I only have a couple of questions for those that do not believe. Does the beauty in nature look like it evolved on it's own or does it look like it was designed? Did DNA write itself or was it written by someone else?
 
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@fotw - I have asked the question but nobody wants to stand up for evolution!!

 

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Did not read most of this thread since I can probably get the gist of it. For now I only have a couple of questions for those that do not believe. Does the beauty in nature look like it evolved on it's own or does it look like it was designed? Did DNA write itself or was it written by someone else?
I have a weed strain that probably no one else has in the world,accidental mix of "Blueberry Headband" and "Tangie Banana".It dont look,smell or taste like any other weed plant i have seen and ive seen many.Did god design that plant/strain of weed ? Was it all gods plan that this weed strain came to existance ?
Life evolves on its on according to certain (divine)laws and it is largely infuenced by its environment and we have also the ability to shape it and help it prosper.People who have a different opinion probably havent grown a single thing in their lifetime or have poor knowledge about botanics and horticulture/plant breeding.
"How plants are trained to work for man" by Luther Burbank, (1914 ).

From wiki - "Burbank created hundreds of new varieties of fruits (plum, pear, prune, peach, blackberry, raspberry); potato, tomato; ornamental flowers and other plants. He introduced over 800 new plants, including flowers, grains, grasses, vegetables, cacti, and fruits. "
 
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