I used to think this was Isaac vs Ismael. Then I read the Quran (17:104) and argued that actually the Quran supports a true messianic ISRAEL.
This is why ill never go public (im not soft spoken either which would go against me), there's always more to learn and often times ill do a U-turn on my own beliefs. Basically I realised the palestinians are actually the true remnant of Zechariah 13.
The 'xtians' don't really know scripture well, they tend to make it up as they go along. For example Zechariah 12 and 13 are vastly different. Zech 12 is about God's full support for messianic Israel..it is a reference to the Gog and Magog prophecy which is not only post-messianic, but post-BEAST, post-armageddon/eurhrates war ie it has nothing to do with the modern era. However Zechariah 13 is strictly post-Jesus ie after his rejection.
“Awake, sword, against my shepherd,
against the man who is close to me!”
declares the Lord Almighty.
“Strike the shepherd,
and the sheep will be scattered,
and I will turn my hand against the little ones.
side note: he is God in the flesh? but then God repeatedly calls him 'my shepherd' or 'my slave/abd' and Christians say this refers to his flesh. Yet they say he is FULLY GOD in the flesh. Yet Jesus differentiates between his flesh nature as 'son of man/son of David' vs his Logos incarnature nature as 'Son of God'. Yet Jesus says THE SON (of God, the LOGOS) doesnt know the last hour. Likewise he says The Son can do nothing on his own.
Zech 13 refers to events taking place after the rejection of Jesus. That is, the roman destruction of Judah and Jerusalem.
In the whole land,” declares the Lord,
“two-thirds will be struck down and perish;
yet one-third will be left in it.
9 This third I will put into the fire;
I will refine them like silver
and test them like gold.
They will call on my name
and I will answer them;
I will say, ‘They are my people,’
and they will say, ‘The Lord is our God.’”
going by Luke 21, Jesus told his JEWISH followers, to flee to the mountains to avoid the coming destruction/punishment. so it makes sense that the ones who were safe, were in hiding, thus, they returned and inherited the land.
it talks of God 'refinding them like silver' and this makes sense in light of Luke 21 where Jesus says
12 “But before all this, they will seize you and persecute you. They will hand you over to synagogues and put you in prison, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. 13 And so you will bear testimony to me. 14 But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. 15 For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. 16 You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers and sisters, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. 17 Everyone will hate you because of me. 18 But not a hair of your head will perish. 19 Stand firm, and you will win life.
So here's the thing...
the camp who remained...never left. They were absorbed into a palestinian identity under roman rule, were christian, then became muslim.
This is not a lie..
Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East share a very similar gene pool and must be considered closely related and not genetically separate, the authors state. Rivalry between the two races is therefore based 'in cultural and religious, but not in genetic differences', they conclude.
A keynote research paper showing that Middle Eastern Jews and Palestinians are genetically almost identical has been pulled from a leading journal.
www.theguardian.com
Blood Brothers: Palestinians and Jews Share Genetic Roots
Jews break down into three genetic groups, all of which have Middle Eastern origins – which are shared with the Palestinians and Druze.
if you're christian and you support israel, it's only because you hate islam.
Revelation 12's 1260 days prophecy refers to the gentiles trampling over the temple mount for 1260 days. in line with the '1 day like a year' in prophecy rule, this is 1260 lunar yrs, the exact period islam ruled the temple mount.
Revelation 13 then connects the true remnant, with the 'wilderness' and again with 1260 days. It tells us after this period ends, THE DRAGON (satan) will make war against 'her children'
literally this is the whore of babylon murdering the children of Sarah (the true remnant).
80% of israelis, the ashkenazis who rule it...are lactose intolerant. Literally claiming the land of MILK and honey.
If that was not enough, the themes that define messianic israel of Ezekiel 38..is
1 You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars.
unwalled villages, without gates and bars..
we have an israel today that has partition walls, checkpoints and even boasts in 'the iron dome'
a peaceful and unsuspecting people
so we have mossad and memritv (ie they are so suspicious of muslims, they are 24-7 monitoring the entire muslim worlds media).literally the best of the best spyware is made in israel.
of course, with the best airforce in the world, or so they claim....and the idf, they are anyting but 'peaceful'
so essentially this fake israel that has hijacked the name, is literally shitting on Ezekiel 38, whilst it, is literally made up of 80% lactose intolerant ashkenazis who are of GOMER, which is with Gog and Magog.
every one who reads this, knows im right. there isnt a single counter argument.