Eye on Israel...(...and The Spiritual Battle Behind The War...)

Daze

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Is she wrong?
She's actually signed off on money to Israel. Think she's an ally to Palestine?

She's a bought and sold mouth piece speaking for the highest bidder. Just like everyone else in DC.
What good is the word of someone like that?
I don't need an ally today who is gonna put a knife in my back tomorrow.


1- Yes, I've always been surprised that most of the American people have never said "Why are we propping up Israel with truckloads of cash and super-duper weaponry, thereby making us a target as 'Israel's friend? What has Israel ever done for us?"

2- Although Islam recognises Jesus as a prophet, they don't believe he was the Son of God, so they're in danger of the naughty step..:)
Regardless of what the media tells you, not every American supports Israel.

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And even Jesus went up against the snooty jews-
HIGH PRIEST- "Jesus of Nazareth alias the Christ, Messiah and Son of God, you stand accused of upsetting us real bad, how do you plead?"
JESUS- "On yer bike Charlie"

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Not only US citizens, I've read of German and British citizens too. Sadly some have been killed. Unfortunately they were in a war zone that left them open to that. I don't think this is just about Islam vs Jews. Hamas are against everyone else in Israel whatever their religion. These attacks are indiscriminate sadly.
 

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Not only US citizens, I've read of German and British citizens too. Sadly some have been killed. Unfortunately they were in a war zone that left them open to that. I don't think this is just about Islam vs Jews. Hamas are against everyone else in Israel whatever their religion. These attacks are indiscriminate sadly.
You do realize the "Americans" are dual citizens, right? Israeli firsters. If these people are American then I'm an Arab.

Same goes for the "Brits" dying down there. They have no business what so ever to be there in the first place. If you go to an occupied land that has millions in an open air prison, then expect to be a target because God hates oppression. Apartheid Israel is nothing more then a number of days. Regardless if they win this war or not.

Nothing but propaganda filling the internet these days. It is as they say, the first casualty of war is the truth.
 

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You do realize the "Americans" are dual citizens, right? Israeli firsters. If these people are American then I'm an Arab.

Same goes for the "Brits" dying down there. They have no business what so ever to be there in the first place. If you go to an occupied land that has millions in an open air prison, then expect to be a target because God hates oppression. Apartheid Israel is nothing more then a number of days. Regardless if they win this war or not.

Nothing but propaganda filling the internet these days. It is as they say, the first casualty of war is the truth.
Whether they are dual citizens or not, they should not be held hostages or killed. No one should be held hostage or killed whether they are Israelis, Palestinians, duo citizens or foreigners. Personally I would never choose to live in or visit an area that is unstable politically and where war can break out at any time as what is happening right now. I know the damage of war as an African from a country that had war.

I do know the Palestinians have been through a lot (more that I can imagine) since the state of Israel was created. You are right, God hates oppression but is what Hamas doing going to lessen their oppression? Or is it going to increase it? The truth is Israel is stronger militarily.

I wish we knew the solution that would lead to both sides living peacefully in that land but we don't. All I know is innocent civilians on both sides pay a high price with their lives over this ongoing war.
 

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Whether they are dual citizens or not, they should not be held hostages or killed. No one should be held hostage or killed whether they are Israelis, Palestinians, duo citizens or foreigners. Personally I would never choose to live in or visit an area that is unstable politically and where war can break out at any time as what is happening right now. I know the damage of war as an African from a country that had war.

I do know the Palestinians have been through a lot (more that I can imagine) since the state of Israel was created. You are right, God hates oppression but is what Hamas doing going to lessen their oppression? Or is it going to increase it? The truth is Israel is stronger militarily.

I wish we knew the solution that would lead to both sides living peacefully in that land but we don't. All I know is innocent civilians on both sides pay a high price with their lives over this ongoing war.
Hamas is not killing a single hostage. They are being used to exchange for Palestinians who have been locked up without trial.

You need to tune out the propaganda.

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We do know the situation. But not everyone whats to hear it.

 

Daze

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Off topic, i wonder why this thread does not show in "whats new" even after i just posted in it?

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I see threads disappear from WN if someone i put on ignore comments, but that's not the case here. It's like this thread is hidden for some odd reason?

Idk about others but I'm seeing alot of bugs here lately. This is one of them.
 

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Hamas is not killing a single hostage. They are being used to exchange for Palestinians who have been locked up without trial.

You need to tune out the propaganda.

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We do know the situation. But not everyone whats to hear it.

Hamas has killed people (innocent civilians) during this attack. They've also taken hostages (innocent civilians) which is also wrong. These people were just living their lives and do not deserve to be used as bargaining tools by Hamas. While I agree they have real grievances about what has happened to them and their people for more than 70 years, I don't agree with these tactics just like I don't agree with many things Israel has done/do to Palestinians including the retaliation and complete blockade of Gaza.
 
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Daze

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Hamas has killed people (innocent civilians) during this attack. They've also taken hostages (innocent civilians) which is also wrong. These people were just living their lives and do not deserve to be used as bargaining tools by Hamas. While I agree they have real grievances about what has happened to them and their people for more than 70 years, I don't agree with these tactics just like I don't agree with many things Israel has done to Palestinians.
Who are these "innocent civilians"? Are you talking about the rave? Which had nothing but IOF soldiers celebrating their holiday in civilian attire?

This is probably what you don't get. There is not a single civilian in Israel. It is MANDATORY that every single Israeli must serve in the army once they reach a certain age. 18 probably. Every single one of them have oppressed others.

You need to step back and look at the big picture. For 70 years Israelis have made Palestinians suffer and if you follow the news you will see the atrocities are all to frequent. I am talking daily here, long before this "war" broke out. But now that the cornered cat has struck back, all of a sudden you want to throw your two cents in?
 

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Hamas has killed people (innocent civilians) during this attack. They've also taken hostages (innocent civilians) which is also wrong. These people were just living their lives and do not deserve to be used as bargaining tools by Hamas. While I agree they have real grievances about what has happened to them and their people for more than 70 years, I don't agree with these tactics just like I don't agree with many things Israel has done/do to Palestinians including the retaliation and complete blockade of Gaza.
what the heck do you want them to do? Sip tea and pray it away? They have the right to defend themselves.

why is everyone whining about Hamas attacking Israel? They were bound to do this. Decolonisation isn’t pretty. This is what happens when a nation revolts after decades of abuse.
 

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@Daze
Who are these "innocent civilians"? Are you talking about the rave? Which had nothing but IOF soldiers celebrating their holiday in civilian attire?
There are many countries that have mandatory military service around the world, which means they train their people to be prepared in case of a war. It is wrong to kill them because they were once trained to protect their countries. It is murder.

This is probably what you don't get. There is not a single civilian in Israel. It is MANDATORY that every single Israeli must serve in the army once they reach a certain age. 18 probably. Every single one of them have oppressed others.
If you believe this then you're no different than the people you are accusing of believing in propaganda.

You need to step back and look at the big picture. For 70 years Israelis have made Palestinians suffer and if you follow the news you will see the atrocities are all to frequent. I am talking daily here, long before this "war" broke out. But now that the cornered cat has struck back, all of a sudden you want to throw your two cents in?
Yes Israelis have made Palestinians suffer but this does not justify what Hamas has done either. Now because of what they've done, Israel that is stronger militarily, has retaliated and killed more Palestinians than Hamas killed Israelis and to top it off they have put a complete blockade on Gaza. That means no food, no electricity, no water and medication. Do you think what Hamas has done is worth the civilians dying, starving, dying of illnesses is worth it? Btw I don't agree with Israel's retaliation either.
 
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phipps

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what the heck do you want them to do? Sip tea and pray it away? They have the right to defend themselves.

why is everyone whining about Hamas attacking Israel? They were bound to do this. Decolonisation isn’t pretty. This is what happens when a nation revolts after decades of abuse.
I empathise with Palestinians and what they've been going through for decades. But what they've done is still wrong and is not going to help their cause is it?
 

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They propose no alternative to the situation. Just make ill conceived statements like ‘whoa there Hamas they were just innocent civilians at a concert!’
Which came first, the brutal control and land grab of Palestine, or Hamas?
Mistreat someone for long enough and eventually they’ll lash out.

Have you any idea what Israel has been doing to Gaza repeatedly? Every Ramadan we expect a big provocation. That’s their favourite time to prod them, no guesses as to why I think it’s self explanatory.
 

Haich

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I empathise with Palestinians and what they've been going through for decades. But what they've done is still wrong and is not going to help their cause is it?
what do you think about Israel’s barricading of 2 million people in an open prison, with full control of their services, then telling them they have 24 hours to get out knowing full well they have absolutely nowhere to go?
 
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