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I am going to put this here again so that hopefully someone with better scientific or biological knowledge then me can look into...

Germany has thousands more cases then the USA, their fatality rate is less then a quarter of ours. Of all the countries they have the least fatality rate. What are they doing that no one else is doing?
 






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I am going to put this here again so that hopefully someone with better scientific or biological knowledge then me can look into...

Germany has thousands more cases then the USA, their fatality rate is less then a quarter of ours. Of all the countries they have the least fatality rate. What are they doing that no one else is doing?
The daily mail mentions a difference in how the statistics are being collected. I guess Italy is testing post mortem and Germany is not. They also said that a younger population is presenting in Germany in contrast to other countries. I think this also reflects some differences in collecting statistics. Maybe Germany is tricking the system somehow. I don't know why.

The article also mentioned that Germany has a lot more ICU beds. I found this to be an interesting way of creating a comparison that could possibly explain it, so I looked up how many icu beds there are in other places. It seems like it is easier to find the total number of hospital beds to use for comparison.

So I just made ratios with a search of a rough estimate of population size and the number of hospital beds that I could find, and it seems like Germany does have an advantage in this regard. There is about 1 hospital bed per 174 people in Germany, while Italy is at about 1 hospital bed per 300 people and New York is about 1 hospital bed per 333 people. So I guess we will know soon enough if the number of hospital beds influences the ability to recover from the coronavirus or whether Germany is fudging their statistics in some way.

 






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The daily mail mentions a difference in how the statistics are being collected. I guess Italy is testing post mortem and Germany is not. They also said that a younger population is presenting in Germany in contrast to other countries. I think this also reflects some differences in collecting statistics. Maybe Germany is tricking the system somehow. I don't know why.

The article also mentioned that Germany has a lot more ICU beds. I found this to be an interesting way of creating a comparison that could possibly explain it, so I looked up how many icu beds there are in other places. It seems like it is easier to find the total number of hospital beds to use for comparison.

So I just made ratios with a search of a rough estimate of population size and the number of hospital beds that I could find, and it seems like Germany does have an advantage in this regard. There is about 1 hospital bed per 174 people in Germany, while Italy is at about 1 hospital bed per 300 people and New York is about 1 hospital bed per 333 people. So I guess we will know soon enough if the number of hospital beds influences the ability to recover from the coronavirus or whether Germany is fudging their statistics in some way.

Thanks @rainerann
 






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Washington state only had two new cases today.. and their numbers still haven’t hit 2000, considering they were the first place this started - that’s somewhat encouraging.

Meanwhile NY has going on 9000 cases - an increase of almost 3000 from yesterday.
 






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I just heard that my state is trying to put a ban on out of state travel and trying to get Trump to send in the national guard to prevent people from leaving the state. Has anyone else heard of this? I live in Louisiana.
Haven't heard anything l
Washington state only had two new cases today.. and their numbers still haven’t hit 2000, considering they were the first place this started - that’s somewhat encouraging.

Meanwhile NY has going on 9000 cases - an increase of almost 3000 from yesterday.
Washington had 136 new cases today, not 2. I live here and everyone is hearing rumblings of a lockdown, but now official word yet
 






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Haven't heard anything l


Washington had 136 new cases today, not 2. I live here and everyone is hearing rumblings of a lockdown, but now official word yet
Ahh I see.. the corona tracker I look at a couple times a day said two. My apologies

Do you think your numbers are so much less then ny because you have less cases or less testing?
 






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Ahh I see.. the corona tracker I look at a couple times a day said two. My apologies

Do you think your numbers are so much less then ny because you have less cases or less testing?
Could have been deaths. The majority of deaths from our state have been from the initial retirement center, probably 75%.

NY is so densely populated would be my guess to why there are more cases. I dont even know anything anymore...this is absolutely crazy and nothing adds up. The only thing that seems right is to drop down and pray
 






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I see nobody went in on my foodborne illness theory.

Maybe this is too much information, but every time I walked into a public bathroom at work today, someone was taking a dump. I'm like, dude...WTF?? In my mind, this is all the evidence I need. Theory confirmed!
 






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I see nobody went in on my foodborne illness theory.

Maybe this is too much information, but every time I walked into a public bathroom at work today, someone was taking a dump. I'm like, dude...WTF?? In my mind, this is all the evidence I need. Theory confirmed!
Are you joking or no?

I did see somewhere that early symptoms could include gastro issues.. but idk. What food do you think it’s in?
 






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Are you joking or no?

I did see somewhere that early symptoms could include gastro issues.. but idk. What food do you think it’s in?

I posted this link in the coronavirus thread.
But there are three original strains of the virus.

So the strain mutates and you get a plethora of symptoms. So it seems the italian strain is the one hitting Wuhan and Spain and has those deadly pneumonia symptoms.

The english strain and austrian strain are are creating flu/cold like symptoms.

Seems to be why some people deal with gastro and abdominal issues while others deal with upper respiratory issues. Just like all viruses they spread, mutate, but the more contagious they get the more it starts to weaken cause it essentially multiplied/ran it’s course.

Continue to practice courtesy through washing hands, etc. The more healthy individuals get over the virus, the better we can start developing a better immune response for future seasons
 






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This explains viruses better than I lol.
But yeah. Feeling pretty hopeful that researchers have identified the origin strains.
 






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This is what gets me. He's a spiritual person and being spiritual you believe in good and bad entities. He stepped down from Microsoft to focus on his Philanthropy. He feels it's a lesson to be learned. Which is true, we should be learning from this.

Now, he says the virus "was sent." By whom or what, we don't know. And you have Trump saying we are at "War with an Invisible enemy."

By connecting these together, they feel this is a spiritual war. And it is, causing the world to come to a hault and people are turning to faith and prayer, while others also turn to nefarious ways. It's revealing people's true intentions. It's also causing rifts in social gatherings of spiritual practices, toying with cultures religious ceremonies.

I'm not a Bible thumper, I'm a very spiritual person and believe we are all connected, taught the same thing but in different ways. And after reading what Bill Gates said and is doing now, is making the dots appear easier to connect.
 






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I am going to put this here again so that hopefully someone with better scientific or biological knowledge then me can look into...

Germany has thousands more cases then the USA, their fatality rate is less then a quarter of ours. Of all the countries they have the least fatality rate. What are they doing that no one else is doing?
I ran into some articles that are saying that the UN is encouraging the use of oxygen therapy in treating corona.

The UN health agency stressed in its latest situation report on COVID-19 that "oxygen therapy is a major treatment intervention for patients with severe COVID-19."
"All countries should work to optimise the availability of pulse oximeters and medical oxygen systems," it said.

I was looking up hyperbaric research, and this isn't the same thing, but it was still interesting. It would be amazing if this forced testing of an oxygen therapy instead of another expensive prescription.

Anyways, it is overly simplistic to say that this virus seems to be suffocating people, but that seems to be what is happening on the surface, and this made me think of pollution.

Apparently, there is a significant difference in the pollution levels between Italy and Germany from the brief search I did on the subject. Pollution levels could potentially be the reason that Germany has more potential for recovery than death at the moment.

There is some research on using ozone as a way to clean the air which was interesting too, so I ordered some houseplants that are supposed to be able to clean the air and produce oxygen. I figure it couldn't hurt.
 






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If you go around telling nurses and doctors your related to a celebrity you will get special treatment..
And....not a thank you in sight..whose the biggest loser here?

Matthew Broderick's sister says she was given preferential treatment after contracting coronavirus: 'This system is completely corrupt'
 






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