Confederate Soldier Statues...

[UnderAlienControl]

And somewhere moguls and social scientists are rubbing their hands in anticipation watching this all play out...

 

[polymoog]

Removing it isn't white washing history it's removing honoring an ideology that we collectively decided had no place years ago. .

okay, heres a few more that should go. lets go international:

- the great pyramid in egypt-- built by slaves. this needs to be removed right away!

- the mayan pyramids in south america. oh, and the human sacrifices that were performed-- lets fly some students down there so they can start dynamiting it.

- the holocaust camps-- sjw liberals LOVE clamoring about nazis- how the president is one; how the right is one; how anyone who is against the statue removal is one.... why not get together and bulldoze all of those sites and monuments there? what other site could be more oppressive and hate filled symbol? who cares that the slogan is "never forget". oh, this one stays because you want to remember and not have something like this happen again? i got it-- this one doesnt fit the leftist agenda.

 

[justjess]

You sound awfully bitter for some reason.

The pyramids are a feat of architectural brilliance that have stood for thousands of years, they can not be replicated. That goes for Egyptian and Mayan. You Also can not pick them up and move them to a museum, they would be utterly destroyed. Also They aren't representing and honoring slavery despite slaves being used to build them.

The holocaust camps are actually used for educational purposes unlike the statue in question.

You keep trying to compare apples and oranges to make your point more tolerable but it doesn't work.

I don't care if they leave them up or not but if the people who live their decided to take them down that was their right especially since this isn't destroying anything of historical value by any measure and they weren't even proposing smashing it to pieces rather moving it to a museum. You guys are all for small government and state rights And local control until the state or locality does something you don't like. That's pretty hypocritical imo.

The statue was donated by a man during the height of Jim Crow and KKK to be placed in a park he also donated that was specified to be used for whites only in perpetuity. There is no educational information listed on it and it isn't being used for a lesson on our past mistakes in its current placement. Removing it isn't going to strike the civil war from the history books or change the way it's taught and there are still plenty of memorials and statues and actual historical places and artifacts - even in Virginia - that still stand to serve educational purposes.

 

[UnderAlienControl]

The Truth About Robert E. Lee That Liberals Hope You Never Hear
http://conservativetribune.com/truth-about-robert-e-lee/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_campaign=CTConservativeBrief&utm_content=2017-08-15

Pelosi Demands "Reprehensible" Confederate Statues Be Removed From Capitol
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-17/pelosi-demands-reprehensible-confederate-statues-be-removed-capitol

Abrams calls for removal of Confederate faces off Stone Mountain
http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/08/15/abrams-calls-for-removal-of-confederate-faces-off-stone-mountain/


POLL: 62% Of Americans Believe Confederate Statues Should Remain, Only 27% Disagree
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=57196


Hollywood Forever Cemetery removes Confederate monument after calls from activists and threats of vandalism
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-hollywood-forever-monument-20170815-story.html

 

[rainerann]

The Truth About Robert E. Lee That Liberals Hope You Never Hear
http://conservativetribune.com/truth-about-robert-e-lee/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_campaign=CTConservativeBrief&utm_content=2017-08-15

This was a very interesting article.

 

[justjess]

http://amp.timeinc.net/time/4903671/charlottesville-robert-lee-confederate-monuments-history/?source=dam

 

[Canuckster]

There is a statue of Queen Elizabeth in the center of the city where I live.

She is the figurehead of one of the most violent, evil, oppressive regimes ever to grace this planet, responsible for more deaths than you can imagine. Strictly for the genocide inflicted upon the Irish and indigenous cultures around the world alone, the number of deaths and suffering is staggering. Yet not one person will campaign to have that statue brought down.

You fucking dummies act like the african slave trade was the only one that ever existed. go do some reading for gods sake and stop acting like the history of the world and the people that brought us here and made us who we are today is not worth remembering because some peoples feelings get hurt over monuments to important people within it.

 

[Damien50]

There is a statue of Queen Elizabeth in the center of the city where I live.

She is the figurehead of one of the most violent, evil, oppressive regimes ever to grace this planet, responsible for more deaths than you can imagine. Strictly for the genocide inflicted upon the Irish and indigenous cultures around the world alone, the number of deaths and suffering is staggering. Yet not one person will campaign to have that statue brought down.

You fucking dummies act like the african slave trade was the only one that ever existed. go do some reading for gods sake and stop acting like the history of the world and the people that brought us here and made us who we are today is not worth remembering because some peoples feelings get hurt over monuments to important people within it.

It's getting moved to a museum according to some here. I'm not seeing the issue.

Yet the Georgia Guide Stones still stand.

 

[Yahda]

I'm getting the sense that a major history coverup is happening. Some would love to forget the history of this country, and perhaps rewrite it again. I say "they" should be charged with the removal of evidence.

We already know protesters of today are manipulated and controlled. O and can't forget paid by the hour. Who's really calling the shots ? What's really happening ?

 

[rainerann]

Yah the way I see it is that someone thought they could capitalize on this somehow. They saw the disagreement over the statue, and they set up Kessler to organize the people who opposed having the statue removed so that they could create a narrative of racial tension. I think this is a way to take advantage of the fact that Trump won because if Trump didn't win, we would have a president who was on trial for things that happened in Benghazi months before winning the election, who was about to add a child trafficking investigation to her resume days after the election.

In reality, from everything I have seen, even if someone did disagree about the statue being removed. They would have never independently organized to create an issue over it. They don't really have the numbers for it. They were all basically sent an Evite by the TPTB and taken advantage of to create a ripple effect and label the alt-right movement according to this definition.

I'm not in Virginia, so I don't care either way and I don't particularly like how this is being made to look like such a national issue or representation of national opinions on this subject. I think a museum is a fine place for Mr. Lee. It is a shame to see it undoing the positive effect of the civil rights movement that I have enjoyed all my life. It feels like we are being recategorized by this demonstration in Charlotteville.

It is like the redistricting of Agenda 21 is going to be a new way to separate races.

 

[Canuckster]

I'm getting the sense that a major history coverup is happening. Some would love to forget the history of this country, and perhaps rewrite it again. I say "they" should be charged with the removal of evidence.

We already know protesters of today are manipulated and controlled. O and can't forget paid by the hour. Who's really calling the shots ? What's really happening ?

an interesting read.
http://www.groundzeromedia.org/2017/08/14/814-turning-the-screws-creating-the-perfect-psychotronic-riot-w-dr-john-hall/

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

I had only paid passing attention to the whole monument thing till this morning.

I watched this clip and it made me wonder if the whole thing might be part of a wider move.

The MO seems to be to pick an easy and obvious target, contractual figure etc then use that as some form of precident to apply the same logic to other things.

 

[justjess]

Lol..

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Lol..

Not saying this is happening or going to happen but it certainly forms part of the emotional push back against tearing down the symbols of the past...

"The idea behind Year Zero is that all culture and traditions within a society must be completely destroyed or discarded and a new revolutionary culture must replace it, starting from scratch. All history of a nation or people before Year Zero is deemed largely irrelevant, as it will ideally be purged and replaced from the ground up.

In Cambodia, so-called New People—teachers, artists, and intellectuals—were especially singled out and executed during the purges accompanying Year Zero."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Zero_(political_notion)

 

[polymoog]

this is the list from the NY slimes where the US stands on monument loss:

red: statue removed
black: antifa is closing in

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/16/us/confederate-monuments-removed.html

 

[UnderAlienControl]

http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/total-eclipse/
Total Eclipse

The Soviet Union Erased People From History
http://rense.com/general96/soviet.html

A Domestic Destabilization Is Underway: “The Left Is Fueling And Funding Tensions In Order To Exacerbate Them And Cause A Revolution”
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/a-domestic-destabilization-is-underway-the-left-is-fueling-and-funding-tensions-in-order-to-exacerbate-them-and-cause-a-revolution_08182017


How To Know You’re In a Mass Hysteria Bubble


"Let's Blow Up Mount Rushmore" Says Vice
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-17/lets-blow-mount-rushmore-says-vice

Former Nazi and Democrat Donor George Soros Now Connected to Every Major Protest Since November Election
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...servatives-to-nazi-beat-down-wednesday-night/

Soros Must Be Arrested, Prosecuted and Imprisoned to Prevent Civil War
http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/08/soros-must-be-arrested-prosecuted-and-imprisoned-to-prevent-civil-war/

 

[rainerann]

Total Eclipse

The Soviet Union Erased People From History
http://rense.com/general96/soviet.html

A Domestic Destabilization Is Underway: “The Left Is Fueling And Funding Tensions In Order To Exacerbate Them And Cause A Revolution”
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/a-domestic-destabilization-is-underway-the-left-is-fueling-and-funding-tensions-in-order-to-exacerbate-them-and-cause-a-revolution_08182017
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How To Know You’re In a Mass Hysteria Bubble
View attachment 1411

"Let's Blow Up Mount Rushmore" Says Vice
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-17/lets-blow-mount-rushmore-says-vice

Former Nazi and Democrat Donor George Soros Now Connected to Every Major Protest Since November Election
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...servatives-to-nazi-beat-down-wednesday-night/

Soros Must Be Arrested, Prosecuted and Imprisoned to Prevent Civil War
http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/08/soros-must-be-arrested-prosecuted-and-imprisoned-to-prevent-civil-war/

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Why does it feel like these people wearing the masks and all that, are all part of a "The Purge: Anarchy" fan club that is loosing their grip on reality.

 

[The Zone]

Duke University removed a statue of General Lee overnight while people were sleeping from it's famous chapel. In Durham., where Duke is located, there were rumors of a KKK march that did not happen and it is the same place some tore a statue down via mob like rule. I am okay if this is talked out and statues go to places like reenactment sites for the history that needs to be remembered is that we killed one another. Far too many people are commenting and assuming people in the south US are racist instead of the fact they had lineage with people who died in the war. While said war was partly due to slavery, it was also due to industrialization and people in the south fought for their land, not so much slavery. If the Union army marches in and is ready to kill, what are people in the south going to do?

There really is a lack of history knowledge here. General Lee's parents smuggled slaves out of the south. His wife taught black children school which was against the law in the south. He did not really want to fight for the South and the North recruited him after West Point then decided to go where his family lived and led the south. The Union Army under Sherman then put the south i flames and killed innocents once the war was decided under the guise that there would be no more uprising, but it was overkill and it is a fact they killed slaves as well for some really think Sherman gave crap. Sherman burned Atlanta to the ground yet you don't hear of people calling that out. The bottom line is that the war was complicated and the only goof thing that came out of it was slavery being abolished but the fight was for more than just that.

It is also worth noting that people went years without batting an eye at statues and it is not like they are going o come alive and kill someone. I certainly see why black America could take offense now that this is in the spotlight but most commenting here already have their minds made up and there is no rational in between discussion happening. Neither the north or south won in this instance. We all lost and some seem willing to go into another civil war because they are unwilling to negotiate.

Also, Antifa and White nats do not make up the majority of our country. There is hate there yet the media wants you to think this is the norm while they fan the flames of your emotion. They have pitted people against one another while they sap your freedom with what is to come.

 

[Corvus Metus]

If the monument was erected after the Civil Rights Act was signed, tear it down and smash it to pieces. It doesn't represent history, but intimidation and racism in those cases.

Otherwise, since most are being put in museums what the problem?

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

If a horsefly bites you, it gets worse every time you scratch it.

With the left and right at each others throat, those who wish to exploit the conflict for their own agenda to bring order out of chaos will sit back and watch till their moment arrives.

The hand of George Soros is not far from this agenda and the first five minutes of this clip set it out pretty well. This is one fire I will not be adding fuel to.