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im okay with them drinking because theyre grown now and i completely understand if drinking is their only way to cope with their depression but drugs are too much man, but i know theyre in drugs for some reason, they might be using it to handle their mental illness but i dont think the hyung line uses it for that because there were a lot of rumours that they use drugs ever since theyre rookies because supr3m3 b0i is kind of a drug dealer, drugs and alcohol are very dangerous but it could be helpful for mentally ill people to keep them high and happy to hide the fact that theyre sad and miserable.
 

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At this exact moment, my 15-years-old friends are talking about drinking. I guess some teenagers nowadays don't even need their artists to incentive drinking...
This means they won indeed. You can say drinking is seen as the coolest thing ever anyways. But still there is a reason why the drinking age is 21 in the US and 18 in other parts in the world. Its not just to make teenagers angry. And specially if the only thing you have to get around town is driving a car. Just a reminder like smoking drinking also is not good for you. When people go to check ups the doktor ask if they drink or smoke that's because this thing have a lot of negative sides effects.


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Physical Effects
Chronic heavy drinking is associated with many serious health problems.5 Below are some of the ways alcohol may affect the body:

Liver: One of the possible severe medical consequences of chronic alcohol abuse is liver disease. Over time, with consistent alcohol abuse, the liver may become inflamed and/or scarred. Conditions such as fatty liver, alcoholic hepatitis, fibrosis, and cirrhosis may develop. A person may also develop liver cancer. 5,7,8

Digestive system: Alcohol can wear down the lining of the stomach and increase the production of stomach acid, which can contribute to ulcers.24 Alcohol may also alter nutrient breakdown, absorption, transportation, storage, and excretion, leading to nutrient deficiencies and/or trouble fully using nutrients. For example, thiamine deficiency is common and can lead to serious neurological issues. Alcohol can also impair blood sugar control.10

Pancreas: Alcohol prompts pancreatic production of harmful substances, which can lead to pancreatitis. Pancreatitis is inflammation of the pancreas that impairs digestion.5

Central nervous system (CNS): Thiamine, or vitamin B1, deficiency associated with chronic heavy drinking can lead to Wernicke–Korsakoff syndrome. Symptoms may include confusion, impaired coordination, learning problems, and memory difficulties. Liver disease can also harm the brain, resulting in symptoms such as sleep changes, alterations in mood, personality changes, depression, anxiety, impaired concentration, and incoordination. Too much alcohol may also hinder new brain cell growth.16

Cardiovascular (CV) health: Drinking alcohol has complicated impacts on cardiovascular health. In 2016, alcohol-related CV diseases caused an estimated 593,000 deaths globally.12 Consuming too much alcohol is linked to high blood pressure, irregular heartbeat, trouble pumping blood through the body, blood clots, stroke, cardiomyopathy (sagging, stretched heart muscle), or heart attack.5,13 Excessive alcohol use, both directly and through malnutrition, can also lead to anemia.19

Reproductive health: Consuming too much alcohol can lead to reproductive problems, including erectile dysfunction and irregular menstruation.20 Both men and women may have reduced fertility with long-term, heavy drinking.21Women who drink while pregnant are at increased risk for miscarriage, stillbirth, or having a child with a fetal alcohol spectrum disorder (FASD).14

Bones: Alcohol abuse can cause a calcium imbalance in the body, which is an important nutrient to maintain healthy bones. Consuming too much alcohol can also cause a disruption to the production of vitamin D, which is needed for calcium absorption. Lack of calcium increases the risk of osteoporosis. Osteoporosis increases the risk of bone fractures, which can cause serious pain and disability.15

Psychological Effects
When it comes to the brain, alcohol acts as a depressant to the CNS. However, it can have inconsistent effects, exciting users under some conditions and sedating users under other conditions. Excitement, typically at lower doses, may be due to alcohol suppressing the inhibitory parts of the brain. Functions such as breathing, speech, thought, memory, and movement can be impacted by consuming alcohol. Mental effects may include mood changes, decreased inhibitions, relaxation, impaired judgment, slowed reaction times, difficulty remembering, confusion, and loss of consciousness.3 Chronic use of alcohol can lead to changes in the brain, as described in previous sections.

Excessive alcohol use, even if not chronic, can lead to alcohol–induced psychiatric syndromes, such as alcohol-induced depressive disorder, alcohol-induced bipolar disorder, alcohol-induced sleep disorder, alcohol-induced psychotic disorder, and more.17,22 These disorders are temporary and can occur after significant intoxication and/or withdrawal.22

Alcohol use disorder is also linked to several mental illnesses which can develop separately from the disorder and may even predate it, such as major depression, some anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and others.17 These disorders may increase the likelihood of alcohol-related issues, possibly due, in part, to using alcohol as a self-medicating substance.17,23There also may be common underlying risk factors that increase the likelihood of both substance use disorders and mental illnesses.23

https://www.alcohol.org/effects/

im okay with them drinking because theyre grown now and i completely understand if drinking is their only way to cope with their depression but drugs are too much man, but i know theyre in drugs for some reason, they might be using it to handle their mental illness but i dont think the hyung line uses it for that because there were a lot of rumours that they use drugs ever since theyre rookies because supr3m3 b0i is kind of a drug dealer, drugs and alcohol are very dangerous but it could be helpful for mentally ill people to keep them high and happy to hide the fact that theyre sad and miserable.
They can do whatever. It's their life for sure. But when they have 8-9-10 year old fans also. And they show that they are drinking and making it look cool with songs etc that is just wrong period.
 
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They can do whatever. It's their life for sure. But when they have 8-9-10 year old fans also. And they show that they are drinking and making it look cool with songs etc that is just wrong period.
They used to be more careful about that in their earlier years. They've loosened up about that. I think, though, when a large portion of your fanbase is underage, you have a responsibility to refrain from glamorizing drinking. Nothing wrong (well, other than the dangers you pointed out, that is) with them drinking since they are legally old enough, they just don't need to be doing it on v-lives or advertising liquor.
 

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Not BTS related....but today Taylor Swifft posted a video that promotes the LGBTQ agenda (shocking!)
Here this guy explains it:


I watch this video and then I go on twitter and I see this hashtag trending #LGBTQARMYSelcaDay
so now.. BTS fans have a selca day only for LGBTQ people.....but most of their fans are kids and teens right?

this agenda is everywhere....its so obvious that I dont know how anybody can deny it
 
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They used to be more careful about that in their earlier years. They've loosened up about that. I think, though, when a large portion of your fanbase is underage, you have a responsibility to refrain from glamorizing drinking. Nothing wrong (well, other than the dangers you pointed out, that is) with them drinking since they are legally old enough, they just don't need to be doing it on v-lives or advertising liquor.
the wine he was promoting....sold out


their fans buy everything they promote....including alcohol
 

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Really? I've never heard of a guy doing that. I know women do because no woman wants to have a mustache, but a man? I guess Koreans really don't like facial hair on men.
If i'm not mistaken, partly of eastern asian woman doesn't like seeing a man with beard or any facial hair. In korea itself, man with beard will consider unattractive cos they look dirty and ungroomed. I've seen a reaction videos over korean women towards southeast asia men, they still swoon with the thin moustache but at the end of the day. They still prefer the one with clean unhair face with strong masculinity but with boyish face. It's really boyish

5 from 6 prefer this type:

Over this type:
 

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i see that nobody really talking about bang*an attic, well thought its not new but as a common people who watched it, and how much i gained from it. and yet i'm sorry i can't pinpoint when exactly they spoke about these certain things :rolleyes:

1. SJ confirmed about their concept personas. so guys, the person itself assured it for us. so what we see about each members definitely their personas, man made. i don't see the reason to said that this one is kinder than this one or this one is forced to join the evil by this one. we don't know, they might be angel in the surface but deep down, they might be the nastiest demon alive. idk
2. JK admitted he live his personas, and TH said his didn't different with his own self. in my opinion, even without the mk personas, you'll start to turn into the molded person you're forced into. my poin is, its possible to turn into a kind heart caring person to blend the certain working space when actually you're a cold heart and bit ignorant. but that my example as a common person.
3. NJ described himself as hermione, even if the entire dialogue is scripted. doesn't it sound weird, hermione we know who she is. what are they trying to said? NJ described himself as a genius? or a mud-blood (non zionist) genius sorcery? or he come along with our magician theories.
 

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That's people that have just seen the truth I guess. Burning those books and picture might make some people angry. So its pointless to me. Why invite even more hatred? This could cause the fans to love them even more. They could just throw them in the garbage.

If i'm not mistaken, partly of eastern asian woman doesn't like seeing a man with beard or any facial hair. In korea itself, man with beard will consider unattractive cos they look dirty and ungroomed. I've seen a reaction videos over korean women towards southeast asia men, they still swoon with the thin moustache but at the end of the day. They still prefer the one with clean unhair face with strong masculinity but with boyish face. It's really boyish

5 from 6 prefer this type:

Over this type:
Not so long ago it was the same thing in my country too. Even though some older man kept their moustache. But this is just trends. Some people aren't that open to change their views or style. But nowdays the "beard mania" is widespread the beard is seen everywhere. From the us to all the way to almost asia. I wonder why they made the beard so trendy. Maybe is was to make those asians look even more feminine in our eyes since we are used to see more men with beards than never before.


i see that nobody really talking about bang*an attic, well thought its not new but as a common people who watched it, and how much i gained from it. and yet i'm sorry i can't pinpoint when exactly they spoke about these certain things :rolleyes:

1. SJ confirmed about their concept personas. so guys, the person itself assured it for us. so what we see about each members definitely their personas, man made. i don't see the reason to said that this one is kinder than this one or this one is forced to join the evil by this one. we don't know, they might be angel in the surface but deep down, they might be the nastiest demon alive. idk
2. JK admitted he live his personas, and TH said his didn't different with his own self. in my opinion, even without the mk personas, you'll start to turn into the molded person you're forced into. my poin is, its possible to turn into a kind heart caring person to blend the certain working space when actually you're a cold heart and bit ignorant. but that my example as a common person.
3. NJ described himself as hermione, even if the entire dialogue is scripted. doesn't it sound weird, hermione we know who she is. what are they trying to said? NJ described himself as a genius? or a mud-blood (non zionist) genius sorcery? or he come along with our magician theories.
We talked about this video you have to look a few pages before :) That hermoine thing was weird. :confused: They see themselves as hogward going students? That's so funny and creepy. They have no clue about life and are stuck in this situation. Those companies beat and shape them to become the perfect puppets. They will do everything they are asked. Maybe that's why once asked what would you say to your younger self hobi said to study harder in school. Because this golden cage slave life is not worth it.
the wine he was promoting....sold out


their fans buy everything they promote....including alcohol
That's what I'm saying he kissed that bottle of wine like it's his sweetheart. Some fans got angry that younger fan had bought all of it. And didn't have the chance to purchase it.
Not BTS related....but today Taylor Swifft posted a video that promotes the LGBTQ agenda (shocking!)
Here this guy explains it:


I watch this video and then I go on twitter and I see this hashtag trending #LGBTQARMYSelcaDay
so now.. BTS fans have a selca day only for LGBTQ people.....but most of their fans are kids and teens right?

this agenda is everywhere....its so obvious that I dont know how anybody can deny it
How is it shocking? Isn't that what she is all about now?
And my friend was happy that she made up with her bff katy. People are so clueless even after watching those mvs.
 
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ok now, for one thing, we have to give them credit for. they ARE THAT handsome, maybe you dont see it in that point, but most girls fall for their looks, not the music. they dont even bother to translate the lyrics and grasp the meaning of their songs. How did you think they got famous ? Cause fans read the album notes, books references and mv analyses ? lol. bts wouldnt have a single fan left, if people actually delved into all of the REAL spicy stuff. idk how many of you have actually read Demian or Omelas or have seen The Chatroom, but I have. and I know exactly what they are trying to convey. Anyone with a brain can connect the dots. they have been pretty straightforward their entire career tbh, idk how cant people see it. like tf dude, compare a supposedly "young but fake love" to Devils Advocate ? fucking Eyes Wide Shut to a tired heartbroken lover who wants to love himself ? nahhh.
It doesnt make sense that way. but unfortunately armys are infants by brain so thats where the looks go out to play. lets be real, before I barely knew what they were saying, their faces pulled me in the rabbit hole. its sad that people only stay just for that, proving once again that our generation is truly superficial and doomed.
Kpop itself thrives by appearance
That is why every group has a few visuals and those visuals are centre of marketing and that is how they get fans
The visuals are also the most popular member of their respective groups (Kai Exo, V BTS, Rowoon SF9, Eunwoo Astro) i could go on lol because most visuals are the most popular and get the most acknowledgemnet in tv appearances, centre stage etc
But doesnt everything. The world has become very materialistic and its hardly the talent that lures most of the fanbase in but the visuals that are thrown out although i believe they work hard
The visual of Stray Kids talked about how he wishes he was appreciated for his dancing and talents rather than his looks as hes worked really had to be recognised
Every group has to meet a level of attractiveness to add flavour to their group and allow fangirls to maintain interest its such a superficial ideology but unfortunately a lot of us think like this
 

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but they dont even get the money their company does
What do they get? They must get something that they go on in this masquerade.
From paid shows, sponsors to merchandise, commercials etc. They have definitely paid off their debt by now. And must be earning money now. They keep wearing the most expensive brands. Also they have bought appartments.

"There's a high possibility that the boys no longer live together.
As previously reported, Jungkook has just bought his apartment worth of KRW 1.95 billion (approximately USD 1.75 Million) without getting any loans. By this, four members of BTS have their own apartment, while the three -- RM, Jimin, and V -- have not been revealed to purchase any.

JHope was the first member to buy his own apartment. JHope bought a unit at 'Trimage' apartment complex (same as Jungkook's) back in 2016. JHope received loans from Woori Bank in 2017 but he paid everything back in September 2018.

Jin and Suga have been also reported to have bought their own apartment. Jin purchased an apartment in Hanam-dong, Seoul, in March 2018. Meanwhile, Suga bought an apartment in UN Village, Seoul, in August 2018.

Knowing that four members of the group now have their own apartments, fans have been assuming that BTS' members are no longer living in a dorm. Several comments found on the web read, "We are now waiting for RM, Jimin, and V", "I think they are now living apart", "It's been 7 years since their debut, so yes, they may be not in one dorm now", and more.
What are your thoughts on this, ladies and gentlemen?"

https://www.kstarlive.com/Four-BTS-Members-have-Bought-Their-Own-Houses--Fans-Suspect-Their-Dorm-Life-has-Ended-6049212
 
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What do they get? They must get something that they go on in this masquerade.
From paid shows, sponsors to merchandise, commercials etc. They have definitely paid off their debt by now. And must be earning money now. They keep wearing the most expensive brands. Also they have bought appartments.

"There's a high possibility that the boys no longer live together.
As previously reported, Jungkook has just bought his apartment worth of KRW 1.95 billion (approximately USD 1.75 Million) without getting any loans. By this, four members of BTS have their own apartment, while the three -- RM, Jimin, and V -- have not been revealed to purchase any.

JHope was the first member to buy his own apartment. JHope bought a unit at 'Trimage' apartment complex (same as Jungkook's) back in 2016. JHope received loans from Woori Bank in 2017 but he paid everything back in September 2018.

Jin and Suga have been also reported to have bought their own apartment. Jin purchased an apartment in Hanam-dong, Seoul, in March 2018. Meanwhile, Suga bought an apartment in UN Village, Seoul, in August 2018.

Knowing that four members of the group now have their own apartments, fans have been assuming that BTS' members are no longer living in a dorm. Several comments found on the web read, "We are now waiting for RM, Jimin, and V", "I think they are now living apart", "It's been 7 years since their debut, so yes, they may be not in one dorm now", and more.
What are your thoughts on this, ladies and gentlemen?"

https://www.kstarlive.com/Four-BTS-Members-have-Bought-Their-Own-Houses--Fans-Suspect-Their-Dorm-Life-has-Ended-6049212
Well then to say they are controlled is contradictory, They arent controlled by their boss if they have the freedom to have their own homes without Band PD watching over them
They are very free
 

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Well then to say they are controlled is contradictory, They arent controlled by their boss if they have the freedom to have their own homes without Band PD watching over them
They are very free
Unless they have stockholm's syndrome. But, yeah, I'd guess that they are -- at this point -- doing it of their own free will. Greed is a powerful thing. You don't always have to be brainwashed to throw your morals out the window in order to be rich and famous. Lots of people willingly make that deal. I still think they were too young initially to know what they were doing -- but they are old enough now to have figured things out. When they resigned the contract (unless they were threatened to do it), they made a choice.

Of course, it is interesting that Jhope was the first to buy an apartment. Wasn't he also the one who wanted to leave? And maybe the fact that they don't live together anymore and have a bit more freedom is the reason why we see them not getting along like they used to and drinking more, etc. They were pretty tightly controlled before. Ironically, they are more likely to break down now than when they were highly controlled. More freedom = more time to think and being around people outside of BH might lead them to undo some of their initial programming.

I think BH sees the writing on the wall and that is why JK is being primed to go solo. Just in case.
 
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Unless they have stockholm's syndrome. But, yeah, I'd guess that they are -- at this point -- doing it of their own free will. Greed is a powerful thing. You don't always have to be brainwashed to throw your morals out the window in order to be rich and famous. Lots of people willingly make that deal. I still think they were too young initially to know what they were doing -- but they are old enough now to have figured things out. When they resigned the contract (unless they were threatened to do it), they made a choice.

Of course, it is interesting that Jhope was the first to buy an apartment. Wasn't he also the one who wanted to leave? And maybe the fact that they don't live together anymore and have a bit more freedom is the reason why we see them not getting along like they used to and drinking more, etc. They were pretty tightly controlled before. Ironically, they are more likely to break down now than when they were highly controlled. More freedom = more time to think and being around people outside of BH might lead them to undo some of their initial programming.

I think BH sees the writing on the wall and that is why JK is being primed to go solo. Just in case.
Wow they are worse than I thought I guess, thanks to this thread i continue to learn new things
Btw, your posts are so insightful and you seem like such a good mother to your daughter esecially as you take the tim out to research for her safety what she listens to. As a teen myself I find that BTS is very good at luring young minds and brainwashing them as I was only 14 myself when i was a fan so to have parents like you who stand for the minority and actually take the time out instead of ecouraging their kids is really good
 

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Wow they are worse than I thought I guess, thanks to this thread i continue to learn new things
Btw, your posts are so insightful and you seem like such a good mother to your daughter esecially as you take the tim out to research for her safety what she listens to. As a teen myself I find that BTS is very good at luring young minds and brainwashing them as I was only 14 myself when i was a fan so to have parents like you who stand for the minority and actually take the time out instead of ecouraging their kids is really good
Thank you, but I wish I had been more on top of things before. The world has changed a lot since I was a kid. Some things are better, but the internet has brought new problems to the younger generation that I never had to navigate and I think I'm a little behind the curve. It isn't that I don't know technology -- I worked as a computer programmer before I became a stay at home mom -- but I didn't really understand exactly how much influence social media would have. I thought I could just have conversations with my kids about what they saw and steer them in the right direction, even if they happened to see something bad or inappropriate. But, there is this mindset that adults don't "get it" because we were not raised with the technology and kids don't really see the wisdom in following older traditions or morality. I think I was a little naive and a little too "open minded", especially about the LGBQT movement and thought that there was no harm in preaching tolerance. But, it is clear that there is an agenda and a brainwashing happening with kids regarding gender/sexual orientation and my generation dropped the ball on that one. I am encouraged that there are so many young people on here who can see symbolism and hidden agendas in the entertainment world and I hope once your generation is running things, you'll make better choices than mine did.
 

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We talked about this video you have to look a few pages before :) That hermoine thing was weird. :confused: They see themselves as hogward going students? That's so funny and creepy. They have no clue about life and are stuck in this situation. Those companies beat and shape them to become the perfect puppets. They will do everything they are asked. Maybe that's why once asked what would you say to your younger self hobi said to study harder in school. Because this golden cage slave life is not worth it.
Aaa... I'm sorry i think i missed it. There's bunch of weird post yesterday so i skipped few pages and posts. Actually, something caught me is @inquisitor post about NJ goes to malta with his parents. And malta, has a long history about knight templar and freem*son. So.... That lead me to non zionist sorcery NJ.
 

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I dropped this because, here's the prove that what you see isn't what you think. I know some of you still found pity in them, and maybe bit reluctant to let it go. I know how hard it is especially if you go through with them for years and years or since their debut.
Well, no need to rush. Some people can't be push through a wall. So take your time, but keep in mind for the truth unfold.
Let's go through all of this, until we can be freed. And have no reason to comeback here again
 
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