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Tsunami

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Hey there!
You have mentioned that you are a guy and also a psychology student. It’s interesting to have a different perspective in the thread.


Though I have mentioned that I am researching theology, i am still very skeptical about attributing BTS’s immense popularity with anything occultism/satanic For I believe that there is something more nefarious at play here for which there is a rational psychological explanation. As a student of psychology, what do you think has lead them to successfully form numerous parasocial relationships?

My first red flag for the band was the lackadaisical attitude that so many of these bts fans seem to adopt immediately after joining the fandom.
the over emphasis on self love and excessive mollycoddling and encouragement of self centeredness is ruining lives.
Hello!
Hmmm theology is also very interesting! It is an honor for me to exchange opinions and to have a discussion here!
Well the points that lead to their "satanic boost" is the fact that the major music and entertainment industry is in the hands of Satanists. Otherwise as I have mentioned in another post, their appearance is different (defining the male standards) which gives them attention. Also, I have encountered the fact that their attractiveness is kinda unisex- meaning that their looks attract both males and females. Pretty people are more easily trusted. Secondly, we have the ARMY factor- being part of a group, society, belonging somewhere. They often talk about their achievements as if it is an achievement of both BTS and ARMY's which erases the line between fans and artists. They have emphasised the influence of armies a lot and have given them... let's say more attention than most other western artists. And of course, I cannot deny that they have some very impressive and complicated choreography. As for their singing, I am not an expert to comment it, it is obviously very good. Talking about problems that teens have (anxiety, depression, stress and more) is a way to get closer to their fans. And the v-lives and other programmes in which they try to show their "everyday life" makes the armies feel like they are normal humans like them and try to look relatable. This is just a brief idea of mine about their success, otherwise, I haven't deeply analyzed and thought about why they are successful.
 






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TBh I was interested in their music because they covered many mental issues that teens face (as a psychology student that was interesting for me) and rarely followed stuff about scandals, their v-lives or such stuff, because I am not the type of guy to sit and watch 3 hours how some famous people live.... like its not my cup of coffee. It was the fact that many people undoubtedly believed them, even though they just present what the camera films and that includes a lot of editing, censorship and in general fake identities. And since they have the power to influence the world now, I just asked myself if they possibly could use that in a bad way...and they kinda do...willingly or not. Also as many "flawless" female artists and commercials with females create impossible to follow beauty standards. As for their personalities I can't say because I haven't met them in real life... Like I cant decide and judge over what I see on TV, MV's and V-lives.
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Well their scandals for the most part are about their music and not their personal life. Be it sampling a mass murderer's speech in a mixtape, misogynistic sexist lyrics etc. So there is no need to even watch 3 hrs of content. It's a matter of whether you will support them or not by buying and streaming their music. I no longer could. The lengths fans will go to defend them though is what I found most disturbing. I've never seen anything like it.
 






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QUOTE="Tsunami, post: 430632, member: 12805"]

Well their scandals for the most part are about their music and not their personal life. Be it sampling a mass murderer's speech in a mixtape, misogynistic sexist lyrics etc. So there is no need to even watch 3 hrs of content. It's a matter of whether you will support them or not by buying and streaming their music. I no longer could. The lengths fans will go to defend them though is what I found most disturbing. I've never seen anything like it.
Ohhh no, I have never bought merch or streamed their music ( I do not do that for any artist, I am just not the "fan" type of person). I dunno how some teens even have such money to spend on their merch... such wasted money that could be spent on education or health....
 






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You brought up a good point . If they cared about their fans why are they allowing the fans to obsess over them. They are facilitating it with all the games, storylines, reality shows etc.
Is it them or is it their company. I think they have no freedom to voice out their concerns. From their lives, social media posts, answers in interviews..everything seems controlled by bh. They are told when to speak and when to shut up.
 






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Lurked here for the longest, super interesting thread! Don't know I'm fully into all the theories that you guys talk about but they're all definitely worked to exhaustion and not as close and cutesy as they act in front of the camera. About Kookie, nothing interesting or different to what you've said but just to back up that he is an absolute asshole and a completely manipulative fboy, source is a very close friend who works amongst that industry at a middling background level and had some encounters with the boys and their teams when they were running around America before the pandemic.
 






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Lurked here for the longest, super interesting thread! Don't know I'm fully into all the theories that you guys talk about but they're all definitely worked to exhaustion and not as close and cutesy as they act in front of the camera. About Kookie, nothing interesting or different to what you've said but just to back up that he is an absolute asshole and a completely manipulative fboy, source is a very close friend who works amongst that industry at a middling background level and had some encounters with the boys and their teams when they were running around America before the pandemic.
he is defo manipulative. im glad someone pointed this out. people call jimin the fakest member but i think its jk. he seems to go to far lengths to get what he wants. also how is he an asshole? like did he hurt somebody or did he play female idols?
 






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he is defo manipulative. im glad someone pointed this out. people call jimin the fakest member but i think its jk. he seems to go to far lengths to get what he wants. also how is he an asshole? like did he hurt somebody or did he play female idols?
He's definitely the best actor out of them I'll give him that. Look at his crocodile tears...
 






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Speaking of JK and his true colors... Have you guys ever watched YG really closely in different interviews and games they play on different shows? YG sometimes is cheerful, friendly and hilarious. But most of the time, he's quiet, only mildly interested, or looks like he doesn't give a damn about anything. To me he looks like the only one who isn't sticking to a script, who isn't faking anything.

In the Daechwita performance recently, YG looked bored as hell. He was literally just sitting there. It was a bit depressing. But that's how tuned out he seems. I've only ever seen him interested in and enthusiastic about his own music.
 






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source is a very close friend who works amongst that industry at a middling background level and had some encounters with the boys and their teams when they were running around America before the pandemic.
you have a friend who works in the kpop industry?
 






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he is defo manipulative. im glad someone pointed this out. people call jimin the fakest member but i think its jk. he seems to go to far lengths to get what he wants. also how is he an asshole? like did he hurt somebody or did he play female idols?

Yeah, my friend said that he's real chill until he's not and will just say some slick sh**. Definitely thinks too highly of himself. Apparently J-hope came across as the most professional one and not at all like his weird childlike goofiness on camera. Tae and jk are gorgeous in person, nothing much to say about Tae, he's just very aloof and intense. Like you're not sure if he's going to be nice to you or be horrible. My friend disliked Jin the most.
 






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Yeah, my friend said that he's real chill until he's not and will just say some slick sh**. Definitely thinks too highly of himself. Apparently J-hope came across as the most professional one and not at all like his weird childlike goofiness on camera. Tae and jk are gorgeous in person, nothing much to say about Tae, he's just very aloof and intense. Like you're not sure if he's going to be nice to you or be horrible. My friend disliked Jin the most.
tae isnt that bad. jin seems to be the most unliakble? wow. that came out of nowhere. he seemed the sweetest out of all of them. jungkooks fans have deluded him enough into him thinking hes a god. they set him up real good. now he thinks hes all that. jhope is like rose of blackpink, they seem very professional and they always take their job very seriously. jungkook seems shady.
 






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Yeah, my friend said that he's real chill until he's not and will just say some slick sh**. Definitely thinks too highly of himself. Apparently J-hope came across as the most professional one and not at all like his weird childlike goofiness on camera. Tae and jk are gorgeous in person, nothing much to say about Tae, he's just very aloof and intense. Like you're not sure if he's going to be nice to you or be horrible. My friend disliked Jin the most.
Whoa this shocked me. Jn always seemed like he would be the most professional and your friend disliked him the most? Maybe he was snobby or something. And all the accounts I've heard of jk are quite similar so there's got to be some truth to them.
 






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Yeah, my friend said that he's real chill until he's not and will just say some slick sh**. Definitely thinks too highly of himself. Apparently J-hope came across as the most professional one and not at all like his weird childlike goofiness on camera. Tae and jk are gorgeous in person, nothing much to say about Tae, he's just very aloof and intense. Like you're not sure if he's going to be nice to you or be horrible. My friend disliked Jin the most.
What did your friend say about YG, if anything?
 






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Speaking of JK and his true colors... Have you guys ever watched YG really closely in different interviews and games they play on different shows? YG sometimes is cheerful, friendly and hilarious. But most of the time, he's quiet, only mildly interested, or looks like he doesn't give a damn about anything. To me he looks like the only one who isn't sticking to a script, who isn't faking anything.

In the Daechwita performance recently, YG looked bored as hell. He was literally just sitting there. It was a bit depressing. But that's how tuned out he seems. I've only ever seen him interested in and enthusiastic about his own music.
I agree he seems the most real and oddly I'd say 2nd is T*e. Both of them show their various moods on camera. I always noticed when b*s have to stick to a script yg will have a little smile on his face as if he thinks it's silly. And I think he was being fed to say the stuff about going billboard #1 by bh. He had that little smile again. I don't think he takes it as seriously as armys think.
 






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One of the txt boys has a rumor about jail. Does Bang go after troubled boys? It's abuse if a grown man or woman has sex with a minor. That's disgusting and messes kids up. The first time he got drunk, Tae posted pics and they made the rule about not drunk posting. Jn used to touch Jk's nipples to wake him up in the morning. He tried it with Tae during a video shoot. What if he's the man? The maknae is angry. He used to beat his hyungs.
Oh my gosh that would be absolutely awful if J1n was the “older man”?! Yeah they all seem to be acting out in their own ways, which like Berrywon wrote, it’s like clockwork for industry people who have been abused sexually and otherwise to start to breakdown around their ages. Wait Tae went live while drunk?! I’m sure Bang and all of management knew they were drinking, heck they probably encouraged it.
 






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I agree he seems the most real and oddly I'd say 2nd is T*e. Both of them show their various moods on camera. I always noticed when b*s have to stick to a script yg will have a little smile on his face as if he thinks it's silly. And I think he was being fed to say the stuff about going billboard #1 by bh. He had that little smile again. I don't think he takes it as seriously as armys think.
I agree!
 






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One of the txt boys has a rumor about jail. Does Bang go after troubled boys? It's abuse if a grown man or woman has sex with a minor. That's disgusting and messes kids up. The first time he got drunk, Tae posted pics and they made the rule about not drunk posting. Jn used to touch Jk's nipples to wake him up in the morning. He tried it with Tae during a video shoot. What if he's the man? The maknae is angry. He used to beat his hyungs.
Oh and if Bang was going after troubled boys that would be in line with an abuser/ predator which is m.o. of a lot of the men in the industry. The boys are easier to manipulate and control if they come from abused, troubled, poor situations.
 






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