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Shadow

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Vee is seen looking at us from above. Fans are joking, saying he can step on them etc but that's exactly what they tried to portray. From this angle, he seems like a god looking down on everyone. Also, this lamp gives the impression that there is a halo/the Sun over his head, as far as I'm concerned. He really believes he is some sort of god. And it isn't the first time he is being depicted as the Sun God either.



In the background we can see the gateway to heaven again.
BTS are really promoting that vibe of them being a god to everyone. Armys will bow down to the point where it's too late o_O So I don't like the way things are going. I think this is all part of the plan....
 






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So I had a bit of a theory. Maybe it correlates to why jimin is feeling so sad recently. I can tell because he hasn't been himself in about 3 years but it's more out there these day:

So in the new MV he's the only one who the light shines on (staircase scene) so maybe he associates something more? SO he could be being forced to do sacrifices or anything now. I don't know about you all but this image looks creepy. Like something is wrong? It looks forced like he's locked in metal. Maybe this could mean feelings you can't escape. So maybe now he's the suffering one. They've been using black clothes a lot I wonder why they didn't choose a different comeback style because I thought a few years back they were going for a glitch theme. I don't know what happened to that one.


Bighit's producer even started planning it by liking synthesizer tunes which correlates. But why going back to the black wings? So I feel like they're in a dark time. I also felt like they are trapped especially with the families forcing them in the company. Maybe it's a bit of a can't escape.
His part in the mv was weird indeed as if he was getting possesed on doing those movements on the ground . they do wear a lott of corsets tho
 






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So I had a bit of a theory. Maybe it correlates to why jimin is feeling so sad recently. I can tell because he hasn't been himself in about 3 years but it's more out there these day:

So in the new MV he's the only one who the light shines on (staircase scene) so maybe he associates something more? SO he could be being forced to do sacrifices or anything now. I don't know about you all but this image looks creepy. Like something is wrong? It looks forced like he's locked in metal. Maybe this could mean feelings you can't escape. So maybe now he's the suffering one. They've been using black clothes a lot I wonder why they didn't choose a different comeback style because I thought a few years back they were going for a glitch theme. I don't know what happened to that one.


Bighit's producer even started planning it by liking synthesizer tunes which correlates. But why going back to the black wings? So I feel like they're in a dark time. I also felt like they are trapped especially with the families forcing them in the company. Maybe it's a bit of a can't escape.
Yes, I think you are absolutely right, there's definitely something wrong with Jamal. You can check out this twitter thread if you want, it's pretty interesting as it explains how he seems to have lost his purity but tries to escape from the darkness whereas the others are trying to pull him back in. The OP even mentions that Kookie has lost his shadow due to his dying.


Off topic but I think this mini thread is onto something (mk ultra maybe?)


Also, look at how they casually play with fans' minds/psyches, they certainly have psychiatrists/psychologists in their team and nothing could convince me otherwise. If they do that solely for an MV, you can imagine what else they do on a regular basis.

 






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Hey guys, I’m new here. It’s nice to meet you. I used to be heavy into kpop and OXE was (is??) my ult group. It’s complicated. I grew out of them because I got older and things changed, but I still check out their new music. I just don’t know what they’re doing at all hours of the day anymore. They’ll always have a place in my heart.

I’ve casually liked STB but never got into them heavily. I did notice that their music/concepts and videos have been dark and filled with symbolism in the past few years.

The ON video has so much biblical symbolism like others have pointed out. What really gave me goosebumps was the blowing of the trumpet. I grew up in Islam, and in Islam just before the end of time, a trumpet is blown as a warning. In the next scene, there is violence and chaos.

Their video for Black Swan has the black/white duality and again they’re depicted as fallen angels. It’s not as scary and disturbing as the other ones, symbolism is still there. I actually really like the BS video and watching it, I could feel it entering my heart and carrying me away. It’s very powerful.

They’re all the peak of their career, and the song is about not feeling affected by any of the music they make, and feeling soulless and dazed. It’s so sad.

They absolutely are not just a music group. It makes no sense to put so much occultic and religious symbolism into music that’s meant to be for children.

Also, everything is so layered and requires you to decipher it, which is essentially what occultism is. You’re presented with one thing, but it’s filled with hidden things that are meant to influence you.
 






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All this talk about how unbelieveable it is that Beetees have no clue what "ON" even is got me thinking, and this is just me thinking out loud, so I may be completely wrong, but I still wanted to share.
And by the way, I'm not just talking about Beetees, but people and artists in general. And this is just a theory, as I have no clue what is going on in Beetees' heads, and I have no clue what it's like to be in their position, so keep that in mind.
And maybe Beetees love what they're doing and maybe all the stuff they're doing is right up their alley, I have no clue.

I know people like to joke that entertainers and actors are morons, empty sock puppets who're just parroting whatever they're told, but I have a very hard time believing that none of Beetees members ever wondered: "You know, our Mv's are kinda dark and depressing, and fans keep joking that they're in a cult because we keep wearing these cloaks, and we more than half the time have no clue what are the concepts we're pushing, I mean, it's it at least a little bit weird?"

I might be wrong, but I think even the most evil people see themselves as good. No matter how wicked they look to normal, good people, they are probably very clever devils. I mean, look at Lucifer, he sees himself as a victim, that he was thrown out of heaven unfairly, and now he's a little ankle-biter, trying to passive-agressively get back at God.
Freemasons probably dont respect most people, they keep shoving in their faces what they're doing, and people dont react in the slightest, they often dont even acknowledge that something is weird. Nope, they call you a conspiracy theorist, (as if that's something bad, but whatever). Which I always found weird, because how can you not only have no interest, but get angry about just theories?

It's said that the higher your IQ is, the easier it is for you to justify your actions to yourself. As IQ doesnt actually guarantee you'll be wise, or kind, or moral, it's just the ability to see patterns and think logically.
It's very rarely you hear people be honest with themselves, people dont say: "I still have a lot of work I need to do, but I feel so lazy right now, I just want to lie on my couch and watch a stupid romcom, and it's bad, but I'm still gonna do it." Or whatever they fancy. Nope, people go: "I do so much work! No one ever says thank you, I DESERVE this rest. I'm not lazy at all, I'm just treating myself with love!", or "I'm not stealing from my boss, everyone does it! It's his fault he doesn't respect me enough, it's not stealing if I'm taking what is mine!", or "If I dont pick up that wallet that someone lost, someone else will, so who cares who takes it!"

I mean, it's difficult to acknowledge that sometimes we might want to do something selfish or lazy, or be greedy, or that we wronged someone, we're fallen and imperfect after all. It's much easier to imagine that the other person is just bad and we're completely justified.
And I doubt any artist could easily and courageously be honest with themselves and say: "I know that I'm being a total prostitute right
now, I'm selling myself for money, and I'm such a coward, and I'm so addicted to this paper and attention, like some kind of baby, and I know it's wrong, but Im scared that I wont make it otherwise, I really want this", they probably twist and turn it in their minds until they in their eyes become good and right: "It's not that im writing music that I hate for money and awards, no, I really like this kind of music, I really do. And I'm not pushing any kind of satanic agenda, are you insane?!"

And then they get angry when you point it out. Not just angry, they go haywire! They want to tear you down for reminding them of it. Probably because they're terrified that other people see through them, that people see exactly what they're so terrified of admitting to themselves.
They have to twist their bad actions as something good, because otherwise they wouldn't be able to live with themselves.

And not just bad actions, but perhaps even dumb decisions. This might be just wishful thinking, but I'm more inclined to think that Beetees are just victims of a rotten system, based on what Pr1nce and other famous musicians have said about the music industry, that you get rich, and yet you're also in debt, so you're stuck and cant leave. (And also the fact that Beetees have no freedom even just over how much they eat and rest kinda hints at the fact that they have no authority over their lives.) And we know for a fact that in the Kp0p industry the company takes more than half the money and that the "idols" go into huge debts to the company. It's kinda like looking at that and thinking "I sold out my youth for this???"

(Perhaps that's why Beetees are so terrified of "haters" and every 2nd song (im obviously exaggerating) is written to shit on their "haters". Because any tiny piece of critisism reminds them of something they're so scared of admitting? Because why else do they feel the need to shout that they're rich and successful? Dude, we get it, we see it, it's obvious you're rich and well-known. Or maybe they're not telling it to their haters, but to themselves? It's like a reminder of why exactly they're doing what they do, that it was aaall worth it.)
 






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lauren_xox

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All this talk about how unbelieveable it is that Beetees have no clue what "ON" even is got me thinking, and this is just me thinking out loud, so I may be completely wrong, but I still wanted to share.
And by the way, I'm not just talking about Beetees, but people and artists in general. And this is just a theory, as I have no clue what is going on in Beetees' heads, and I have no clue what it's like to be in their position, so keep that in mind.
And maybe Beetees love what they're doing and maybe all the stuff they're doing is right up their alley, I have no clue.

I know people like to joke that entertainers and actors are morons, empty sock puppets who're just parroting whatever they're told, but I have a very hard time believing that none of Beetees members ever wondered: "You know, our Mv's are kinda dark and depressing, and fans keep joking that they're in a cult because we keep wearing these cloaks, and we more than half the time have no clue what are the concepts we're pushing, I mean, it's it at least a little bit weird?"

I might be wrong, but I think even the most evil people see themselves as good. No matter how wicked they look to normal, good people, they are probably very clever devils. I mean, look at Lucifer, he sees himself as a victim, that he was thrown out of heaven unfairly, and now he's a little ankle-biter, trying to passive-agressively get back at God.
Freemasons probably dont respect most people, they keep shoving in their faces what they're doing, and people dont react in the slightest, they often dont even acknowledge that something is weird. Nope, they call you a conspiracy theorist, (as if that's something bad, but whatever). Which I always found weird, because how can you not only have no interest, but get angry about just theories?

It's said that the higher your IQ is, the easier it is for you to justify your actions to yourself. As IQ doesnt actually guarantee you'll be wise, or kind, or moral, it's just the ability to see patterns and think logically.
It's very rarely you hear people be honest with themselves, people dont say: "I still have a lot of work I need to do, but I feel so lazy right now, I just want to lie on my couch and watch a stupid romcom, and it's bad, but I'm still gonna do it." Or whatever they fancy. Nope, people go: "I do so much work! No one ever says thank you, I DESERVE this rest. I'm not lazy at all, I'm just treating myself with love!", or "I'm not stealing from my boss, everyone does it! It's his fault he doesn't respect me enough, it's not stealing if I'm taking what is mine!", or "If I dont pick up that wallet that someone lost, someone else will, so who cares who takes it!"

I mean, it's difficult to acknowledge that sometimes we might want to do something selfish or lazy, or be greedy, or that we wronged someone, we're fallen and imperfect after all. It's much easier to imagine that the other person is just bad and we're completely justified.
And I doubt any artist could easily and courageously be honest with themselves and say: "I know that I'm being a total prostitute right
now, I'm selling myself for money, and I'm such a coward, and I'm so addicted to this paper and attention, like some kind of baby, and I know it's wrong, but Im scared that I wont make it otherwise, I really want this", they probably twist and turn it in their minds until they in their eyes become good and right: "It's not that im writing music that I hate for money and awards, no, I really like this kind of music, I really do. And I'm not pushing any kind of satanic agenda, are you insane?!"

And then they get angry when you point it out. Not just angry, they go haywire! They want to tear you down for reminding them of it. Probably because they're terrified that other people see through them, that people see exactly what they're so terrified of admitting to themselves.
They have to twist their bad actions as something good, because otherwise they wouldn't be able to live with themselves.

And not just bad actions, but perhaps even dumb decisions. This might be just wishful thinking, but I'm more inclined to think that Beetees are just victims of a rotten system, based on what Pr1nce and other famous musicians have said about the music industry, that you get rich, and yet you're also in debt, so you're stuck and cant leave. (And also the fact that Beetees have no freedom even just over how much they eat and rest kinda hints at the fact that they have no authority over their lives.) And we know for a fact that in the Kp0p industry the company takes more than half the money and that the "idols" go into huge debts to the company. It's kinda like looking at that and thinking "I sold out my youth for this???"

(Perhaps that's why Beetees are so terrified of "haters" and every 2nd song (im obviously exaggerating) is written to shit on their "haters". Because any tiny piece of critisism reminds them of something they're so scared of admitting? Because why else do they feel the need to shout that they're rich and successful? Dude, we get it, we see it, it's obvious you're rich and well-known. Or maybe they're not telling it to their haters, but to themselves? It's like a reminder of why exactly they're doing what they do, that it was aaall worth it.)
Idk about the money part. They own apartments in places like Hannam The Hill and have investments individually. I think they get their fair share, but I think at this point they're addicted to money and success. Sure, in the beginning when they were much younger trainees and newly debuted I think they were complete puppets - from everything they ate and drank to when they slept. But they've been groomed and programmed for years. They're totally complicit now. The only thing directly controlling them is money and their groomed minds. But they get paid well and they can choose what to eat and when.
 






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All this talk about how unbelieveable it is that Beetees have no clue what "ON" even is got me thinking, and this is just me thinking out loud, so I may be completely wrong, but I still wanted to share.
And by the way, I'm not just talking about Beetees, but people and artists in general. And this is just a theory, as I have no clue what is going on in Beetees' heads, and I have no clue what it's like to be in their position, so keep that in mind.
And maybe Beetees love what they're doing and maybe all the stuff they're doing is right up their alley, I have no clue.

I know people like to joke that entertainers and actors are morons, empty sock puppets who're just parroting whatever they're told, but I have a very hard time believing that none of Beetees members ever wondered: "You know, our Mv's are kinda dark and depressing, and fans keep joking that they're in a cult because we keep wearing these cloaks, and we more than half the time have no clue what are the concepts we're pushing, I mean, it's it at least a little bit weird?"

I might be wrong, but I think even the most evil people see themselves as good. No matter how wicked they look to normal, good people, they are probably very clever devils. I mean, look at Lucifer, he sees himself as a victim, that he was thrown out of heaven unfairly, and now he's a little ankle-biter, trying to passive-agressively get back at God.
Freemasons probably dont respect most people, they keep shoving in their faces what they're doing, and people dont react in the slightest, they often dont even acknowledge that something is weird. Nope, they call you a conspiracy theorist, (as if that's something bad, but whatever). Which I always found weird, because how can you not only have no interest, but get angry about just theories?

It's said that the higher your IQ is, the easier it is for you to justify your actions to yourself. As IQ doesnt actually guarantee you'll be wise, or kind, or moral, it's just the ability to see patterns and think logically.
It's very rarely you hear people be honest with themselves, people dont say: "I still have a lot of work I need to do, but I feel so lazy right now, I just want to lie on my couch and watch a stupid romcom, and it's bad, but I'm still gonna do it." Or whatever they fancy. Nope, people go: "I do so much work! No one ever says thank you, I DESERVE this rest. I'm not lazy at all, I'm just treating myself with love!", or "I'm not stealing from my boss, everyone does it! It's his fault he doesn't respect me enough, it's not stealing if I'm taking what is mine!", or "If I dont pick up that wallet that someone lost, someone else will, so who cares who takes it!"

I mean, it's difficult to acknowledge that sometimes we might want to do something selfish or lazy, or be greedy, or that we wronged someone, we're fallen and imperfect after all. It's much easier to imagine that the other person is just bad and we're completely justified.
And I doubt any artist could easily and courageously be honest with themselves and say: "I know that I'm being a total prostitute right
now, I'm selling myself for money, and I'm such a coward, and I'm so addicted to this paper and attention, like some kind of baby, and I know it's wrong, but Im scared that I wont make it otherwise, I really want this", they probably twist and turn it in their minds until they in their eyes become good and right: "It's not that im writing music that I hate for money and awards, no, I really like this kind of music, I really do. And I'm not pushing any kind of satanic agenda, are you insane?!"

And then they get angry when you point it out. Not just angry, they go haywire! They want to tear you down for reminding them of it. Probably because they're terrified that other people see through them, that people see exactly what they're so terrified of admitting to themselves.
They have to twist their bad actions as something good, because otherwise they wouldn't be able to live with themselves.

And not just bad actions, but perhaps even dumb decisions. This might be just wishful thinking, but I'm more inclined to think that Beetees are just victims of a rotten system, based on what Pr1nce and other famous musicians have said about the music industry, that you get rich, and yet you're also in debt, so you're stuck and cant leave. (And also the fact that Beetees have no freedom even just over how much they eat and rest kinda hints at the fact that they have no authority over their lives.) And we know for a fact that in the Kp0p industry the company takes more than half the money and that the "idols" go into huge debts to the company. It's kinda like looking at that and thinking "I sold out my youth for this???"

(Perhaps that's why Beetees are so terrified of "haters" and every 2nd song (im obviously exaggerating) is written to shit on their "haters". Because any tiny piece of critisism reminds them of something they're so scared of admitting? Because why else do they feel the need to shout that they're rich and successful? Dude, we get it, we see it, it's obvious you're rich and well-known. Or maybe they're not telling it to their haters, but to themselves? It's like a reminder of why exactly they're doing what they do, that it was aaall worth it.)
I am a muslim alhamdulilah :) , and yes an angel wil blow the horn the first blow will cause everyone to die an the second blow everyone is resurected. ON gives me end of times dajjal ( anti christ ) vibes
 






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All this talk about how unbelieveable it is that Beetees have no clue what "ON" even is got me thinking, and this is just me thinking out loud, so I may be completely wrong, but I still wanted to share.
And by the way, I'm not just talking about Beetees, but people and artists in general. And this is just a theory, as I have no clue what is going on in Beetees' heads, and I have no clue what it's like to be in their position, so keep that in mind.
And maybe Beetees love what they're doing and maybe all the stuff they're doing is right up their alley, I have no clue.

I know people like to joke that entertainers and actors are morons, empty sock puppets who're just parroting whatever they're told, but I have a very hard time believing that none of Beetees members ever wondered: "You know, our Mv's are kinda dark and depressing, and fans keep joking that they're in a cult because we keep wearing these cloaks, and we more than half the time have no clue what are the concepts we're pushing, I mean, it's it at least a little bit weird?"

I might be wrong, but I think even the most evil people see themselves as good. No matter how wicked they look to normal, good people, they are probably very clever devils. I mean, look at Lucifer, he sees himself as a victim, that he was thrown out of heaven unfairly, and now he's a little ankle-biter, trying to passive-agressively get back at God.
Freemasons probably dont respect most people, they keep shoving in their faces what they're doing, and people dont react in the slightest, they often dont even acknowledge that something is weird. Nope, they call you a conspiracy theorist, (as if that's something bad, but whatever). Which I always found weird, because how can you not only have no interest, but get angry about just theories?

It's said that the higher your IQ is, the easier it is for you to justify your actions to yourself. As IQ doesnt actually guarantee you'll be wise, or kind, or moral, it's just the ability to see patterns and think logically.
It's very rarely you hear people be honest with themselves, people dont say: "I still have a lot of work I need to do, but I feel so lazy right now, I just want to lie on my couch and watch a stupid romcom, and it's bad, but I'm still gonna do it." Or whatever they fancy. Nope, people go: "I do so much work! No one ever says thank you, I DESERVE this rest. I'm not lazy at all, I'm just treating myself with love!", or "I'm not stealing from my boss, everyone does it! It's his fault he doesn't respect me enough, it's not stealing if I'm taking what is mine!", or "If I dont pick up that wallet that someone lost, someone else will, so who cares who takes it!"

I mean, it's difficult to acknowledge that sometimes we might want to do something selfish or lazy, or be greedy, or that we wronged someone, we're fallen and imperfect after all. It's much easier to imagine that the other person is just bad and we're completely justified.
And I doubt any artist could easily and courageously be honest with themselves and say: "I know that I'm being a total prostitute right
now, I'm selling myself for money, and I'm such a coward, and I'm so addicted to this paper and attention, like some kind of baby, and I know it's wrong, but Im scared that I wont make it otherwise, I really want this", they probably twist and turn it in their minds until they in their eyes become good and right: "It's not that im writing music that I hate for money and awards, no, I really like this kind of music, I really do. And I'm not pushing any kind of satanic agenda, are you insane?!"

And then they get angry when you point it out. Not just angry, they go haywire! They want to tear you down for reminding them of it. Probably because they're terrified that other people see through them, that people see exactly what they're so terrified of admitting to themselves.
They have to twist their bad actions as something good, because otherwise they wouldn't be able to live with themselves.

And not just bad actions, but perhaps even dumb decisions. This might be just wishful thinking, but I'm more inclined to think that Beetees are just victims of a rotten system, based on what Pr1nce and other famous musicians have said about the music industry, that you get rich, and yet you're also in debt, so you're stuck and cant leave. (And also the fact that Beetees have no freedom even just over how much they eat and rest kinda hints at the fact that they have no authority over their lives.) And we know for a fact that in the Kp0p industry the company takes more than half the money and that the "idols" go into huge debts to the company. It's kinda like looking at that and thinking "I sold out my youth for this???"

(Perhaps that's why Beetees are so terrified of "haters" and every 2nd song (im obviously exaggerating) is written to shit on their "haters". Because any tiny piece of critisism reminds them of something they're so scared of admitting? Because why else do they feel the need to shout that they're rich and successful? Dude, we get it, we see it, it's obvious you're rich and well-known. Or maybe they're not telling it to their haters, but to themselves? It's like a reminder of why exactly they're doing what they do, that it was aaall worth it.)
I read something yesterday because I was really curious about the secrets of jimin. So I googled and found his libra horoscope of the day. So it said 'You'll have to be careful because soon you'll find that you spend too much money on the resources but you'll find yourself in debt' so I found it a bit too coincidental that you realise this one too. I think they do have to save up a lot to get there. But I feel like the more they spend they won't realise it. Maybe the company makes them think they have more money than what they do.

So then one day it could strike into making them poor and they might have barely any money for bills because - they believed they had more money but the company took it all. (so that they can't continue any longer) If they can make them starve they can control their lives and money coming in heavily.
 






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All this talk about how unbelieveable it is that Beetees have no clue what "ON" even is got me thinking, and this is just me thinking out loud, so I may be completely wrong, but I still wanted to share.
And by the way, I'm not just talking about Beetees, but people and artists in general. And this is just a theory, as I have no clue what is going on in Beetees' heads, and I have no clue what it's like to be in their position, so keep that in mind.
And maybe Beetees love what they're doing and maybe all the stuff they're doing is right up their alley, I have no clue.

I know people like to joke that entertainers and actors are morons, empty sock puppets who're just parroting whatever they're told, but I have a very hard time believing that none of Beetees members ever wondered: "You know, our Mv's are kinda dark and depressing, and fans keep joking that they're in a cult because we keep wearing these cloaks, and we more than half the time have no clue what are the concepts we're pushing, I mean, it's it at least a little bit weird?"

I might be wrong, but I think even the most evil people see themselves as good. No matter how wicked they look to normal, good people, they are probably very clever devils. I mean, look at Lucifer, he sees himself as a victim, that he was thrown out of heaven unfairly, and now he's a little ankle-biter, trying to passive-agressively get back at God.
Freemasons probably dont respect most people, they keep shoving in their faces what they're doing, and people dont react in the slightest, they often dont even acknowledge that something is weird. Nope, they call you a conspiracy theorist, (as if that's something bad, but whatever). Which I always found weird, because how can you not only have no interest, but get angry about just theories?

It's said that the higher your IQ is, the easier it is for you to justify your actions to yourself. As IQ doesnt actually guarantee you'll be wise, or kind, or moral, it's just the ability to see patterns and think logically.
It's very rarely you hear people be honest with themselves, people dont say: "I still have a lot of work I need to do, but I feel so lazy right now, I just want to lie on my couch and watch a stupid romcom, and it's bad, but I'm still gonna do it." Or whatever they fancy. Nope, people go: "I do so much work! No one ever says thank you, I DESERVE this rest. I'm not lazy at all, I'm just treating myself with love!", or "I'm not stealing from my boss, everyone does it! It's his fault he doesn't respect me enough, it's not stealing if I'm taking what is mine!", or "If I dont pick up that wallet that someone lost, someone else will, so who cares who takes it!"

I mean, it's difficult to acknowledge that sometimes we might want to do something selfish or lazy, or be greedy, or that we wronged someone, we're fallen and imperfect after all. It's much easier to imagine that the other person is just bad and we're completely justified.
And I doubt any artist could easily and courageously be honest with themselves and say: "I know that I'm being a total prostitute right
now, I'm selling myself for money, and I'm such a coward, and I'm so addicted to this paper and attention, like some kind of baby, and I know it's wrong, but Im scared that I wont make it otherwise, I really want this", they probably twist and turn it in their minds until they in their eyes become good and right: "It's not that im writing music that I hate for money and awards, no, I really like this kind of music, I really do. And I'm not pushing any kind of satanic agenda, are you insane?!"

And then they get angry when you point it out. Not just angry, they go haywire! They want to tear you down for reminding them of it. Probably because they're terrified that other people see through them, that people see exactly what they're so terrified of admitting to themselves.
They have to twist their bad actions as something good, because otherwise they wouldn't be able to live with themselves.

And not just bad actions, but perhaps even dumb decisions. This might be just wishful thinking, but I'm more inclined to think that Beetees are just victims of a rotten system, based on what Pr1nce and other famous musicians have said about the music industry, that you get rich, and yet you're also in debt, so you're stuck and cant leave. (And also the fact that Beetees have no freedom even just over how much they eat and rest kinda hints at the fact that they have no authority over their lives.) And we know for a fact that in the Kp0p industry the company takes more than half the money and that the "idols" go into huge debts to the company. It's kinda like looking at that and thinking "I sold out my youth for this???"

(Perhaps that's why Beetees are so terrified of "haters" and every 2nd song (im obviously exaggerating) is written to shit on their "haters". Because any tiny piece of critisism reminds them of something they're so scared of admitting? Because why else do they feel the need to shout that they're rich and successful? Dude, we get it, we see it, it's obvious you're rich and well-known. Or maybe they're not telling it to their haters, but to themselves? It's like a reminder of why exactly they're doing what they do, that it was aaall worth it.)
I also think they are not so connected and aware of their fans than peoplr would like to believe I think anything their fans do for them they get that info via bighit . I feel like their social media presence is very controlled .
 






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I read something yesterday because I was really curious about the secrets of jimin. So I googled and found his libra horoscope of the day. So it said 'You'll have to be careful because soon you'll find that you spend too much money on the resources but you'll find yourself in debt' so I found it a bit too coincidental that you realise this one too. I think they do have to save up a lot to get there. But I feel like the more they spend they won't realise it. Maybe the company makes them think they have more money than what they do.

So then one day it could strike into making them poor and they might have barely any money for bills because - they believed they had more money but the company took it all. (so that they can't continue any longer) If they can make them starve they can control their lives and money coming in heavily.
What you said is pretty much what I meant, but you said it much better. Thanks!

I just remembered what one musician said about how you make for example 1 million dollars, but the company says "you owe us for promoting you, and for the money we spent on that record". Pr1nce is famous for spilling the beans on the music industry, he used to write "slave" on his face. I also know from an insider that many hollywood stars only seem rich, they actually give most of what they make to taxes.
And if, suppose, that is true, and these celebrities are actually dirt poor, the young people, who look at the fame and money and drool, wouldn't want that at all, which would be a poor business strategy. So if I ran a business like that, I would want my "idols" to look rich and happy, so more teens would want to get into my company. Again, this is all just my speculations, I might be totally wrong about this.
 






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Idk about the money part. They own apartments in places like Hannam The Hill and have investments individually. I think they get their fair share, but I think at this point they're addicted to money and success. Sure, in the beginning when they were much younger trainees and newly debuted I think they were complete puppets - from everything they ate and drank to when they slept. But they've been groomed and programmed for years. They're totally complicit now. The only thing directly controlling them is money and their groomed minds. But they get paid well and they can choose what to eat and when.
A slave is free, as long as he has no appetites. A King is a slave to as many appetites as he has.

I agree that they're addicted to the money and fame, but why? I'm curious about how does one get into that kind of position, and how does one decide to stay, even though it's very unstable.
 






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What you said is pretty much what I meant, but you said it much better. Thanks!

I just remembered what one musician said about how you make for example 1 million dollars, but the company says "you owe us for promoting you, and for the money we spent on that record". Pr1nce is famous for spilling the beans on the music industry, he used to write "slave" on his face. I also know from an insider that many hollywood stars only seem rich, they actually give most of what they make to taxes.
And if, suppose, that is true, and these celebrities are actually dirt poor, the young people, who look at the fame and money and drool, wouldn't want that at all, which would be a poor business strategy. So if I ran a business like that, I would want my "idols" to look rich and happy, so more teens would want to get into my company. Again, this is all just my speculations, I might be totally wrong about this.

Yeah you're kinda right, because when bigshiet gives them some gift, they are SO happy, it's like they can't even afford the gift
 






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Yeah you're kinda right, because when bigshiet gives them some gift, they are SO happy, it's like they can't even afford the gift
To be fair, that could also be just them acting for the camera. I dont know whether it's true, but someone here mentioned before that during the puppy interview YG was completely bored, but as soon as the camera started rolling, he put on a happy face and squealed "I love puppies!". But who knows.
 






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Very interesting video about truth seeking and the danger of being certain.
"You find out somebody's lying or you've been lied to by the beast and you immediately want to replace that with something that you now consider the truth".
 






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Although the mama stage 12/12/18 wasn’t as “Big” as Bighit and BTS usually go these are some of the things I observed
1) Tae is mostly the first or last one
When I look at any performance or intro I always seem to look at who is the first and if there is any latter in the chronological order of members appearing
Apart from Kookie who is both the start and the finish of the intro Tae seems to be the first one where you see his “mask”
He is then the first one to appear in the intro for Fake Love and takes centre stage for the dance break intro
We also see him in the centre of the circle almost like a target right in the middle or an abnormal individual from the rest
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We also see 7 men in robes presumably the members in the mirrors and we see all the members fade or get wiped out from either two sides with Tae right at the end and he is the only one who doesn’t fade
The robes could mean a transition to the other world or BTS becoming evil once they wear the robes but the hooded figures look very similar to the grim reaper and we see that only Taes hooded figure stays
Why is Tae the last one? What is the significance of this?
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Also when they are in their white clothing they are in a line behind eachother and we see each of them fade as the next comes in line and Tae is the last one and he also doesn’t fade
This seems like they will have some sort of plan with V as they’ve erased every member but him
I feel like posts like these that were previously asked in this thread csn be answered better know its like al the missing pieces are falling Together
 






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Saya baru saja membaca tweet prajurit dan beberapa komentar setelah itu muncul. Mereka mengatakan "BTX penuh dengan hari-harinya" "BTX adalah musisi alami dan tidak diatur oleh agensinya" "musik menyelamatkan saya" Mereka berbicara seolah-olah mereka tahu lebih baik. Ini sangat gila.
 






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I watch BTS reaction to their mv
But seem like their don't know what the mv about .
I'm sure the mv and most of they song make by illuminati.
BTS is just puppet of illuminati.
I feel bad at them pretend to be "is okay, we fine"
 






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