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Kookie's role in the mv is out. So he is the devil, but wears thorns wrapped around his wrists that are a reference to Christ? What are they trying to portray? That the devil is just as misunderstood as Christ was? Reversed symbolism at its finest. So, by blowing the conch, he really brought hell upon earth in the mv.


The darkness again. Even if they weren't part of the evil cult, this is getting too repetitive at this point. From an artistic standpoint, they always recycle the same theme since BST era and it got boring really fast, it's like they can't bring new ideas to the table. Their last mv was so shallow and pseudo-intellectual,even armyz claimed it was confusing and would have preferred something more simple. They make art for the sake of it that's why it seriously lacks depth and meaning. They are chasing after the Grammy hard. Also, have you noticed that they always give the most vague explanations when they are being asked about their concepts?


What Vee meant by "we could have gone higher, we had our chances"? They are literally at the top rn and they don't give space for others to rise. Imo, their greediness became more clear by this statement. I just don't buy it, they are so hungry for fame and money and they are getting desperate, which is painfully obvious. They did everything in their power to stand at this position including selling their souls, so what more chances have they possibly left out? Or could it really be that he is the one that genuinely wants to slow down and be out eventually?
Slightly off topic, but as you said: "Also, have you noticed that they always give the most vague explanations when they are being asked about their concepts?"
It reminded me of an old interview, I dont remember where it's from, but a producer was talking about how Pop music lyrics are deliberately vague, as they believe the more vague something is, the more people it will attract, as listeners will fill the vague lyrics with themselves, and hence the song becomes special for each person.
But based on things beetees have said, perhaps they give vague answers because they themselves dont know what their MV's are about. Whic is much safer than telling them and then hoping they wont accidentally blurt them out.
 






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after filming so many MVs with heavy symbology this makes no sense
He never had the curiosity to ask what the videos are about?? that's like filming a movie but you don't ask about the plot or the characters.

they have videos killing people and surrounded by fire wearing cult uniforms....but they don't think thats strange at all?
Never felt the need to ask "hey!!! what is the plot of this video?" I'm not buying it
 






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There's even an interview where he says "am the leader of the band"
To which namjoon responds "dont mind him he didnt take his medication today"
Where is that from? I need to see it with my own eyes.
Then you have TH going on social media and asking fans to send pics of their feet (creepy af)
I've heard of that wtf, is that forreal? Why haven't locals exposed him yet
 






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yes, Harry was their boytoy
a similar situation to BT$ with Ryan Sea-crest And how BT$ is getting invited to every event hosted by him

But I have to disagree with you about JK being left out , JK gets the most screen time in the MVs, gets the center position in every choreo, and will be the first one to have a solo album. I think BH loves him.
since the beggining he has been pushed as the "golen maknae" and most talented person in the group

thake a look at BT$ first teaser picture:




wich member is elevated? from every MV untill this date it's always JK
I do think TH is involved in shady things.. But he doesn't get the special treatment JK gets all the time within the group
He is very wel rounded he dances well singa good can rap is attractive and the youngest ofc bh loves that, whats interesting to me is how he went to idol school or school of art or something wich is extremly expensive and he graduated while being an idol so he kinda always wanted this .
 






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Kookie's role in the mv is out. So he is the devil, but wears thorns wrapped around his wrists that are a reference to Christ? What are they trying to portray? That the devil is just as misunderstood as Christ was? Reversed symbolism at its finest. So, by blowing the conch, he really brought hell upon earth in the mv.

To me that sounds like the antichrist or satan himself.

Cast him out of the wall?.. or heaven.



Thorns on the hands of Jk and Vii's neck fake tattoo turned out of be "sharp thorns digging into his neck".
Like some kind of diease almost. Jk was saved of it, but what about Vii?



And jamal not knowing what the MV is about is funny but it just shows many members have nothing to do with their songs and messages they give in their MV's. Its all done by other groups of people even though just a few members do write lyrics here and there. Jamal looked tired as those MV shootings takes a long time almost 12 hours a day. I think he looked tired than sad.

And the mv was filmed in the US so that explain the "h0llyw00d" vibes.
 






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Which solo album ? He has none, it's his position as the center nothing new. That goes for all bands.
Since wings he been mostly a back vocal supporter that's why itd look like he has most lines. Screentime is okay , maknae line have their share. He's the only member without a SOLO mv. The only one without any single outside of bts discography.
The day he decided to tease decalcomania shit fell down on him. All bts members have always had clean reputation. Jk been trashed since last September, it only got better since January. And again he's been ghosting for most time on social medias.

And without being biased he deserves the title as golden maknae he's truly talented in everything he does.

If there is one particular member bigshit likes is jim1n ( his Paris video got quickly buried under the bus while jk had been crucified for hanging out with friends )
Rap line are the most privileged solo wise.
V has a drama , 3 solos under his belt, a solo mv like all the rest , and last time I checked he bought a 4m freaking dollars cash apartment like where the fuck that money came from, he goes home shopping and buys real expensive art status like wtf.
JK has been the center of everything since the beggining, every music video "fake love" and now this "ON" video the biggest examples
JK is not even the visual so at least in the pictures they should give JIN that place....but he is always the center, given the biggest parts and presented as some "perfect idol"


And if we talk about JM and the Paris video.....what about JK and his cocaine friends? the media didn't say a word about his "girlfriend" having a cocaine tattoo
and about his car accident he got interrogated for months, but BH said it was a minor thing.. if this was any other idol the news would have been bigger

so you might see JK as the "one left out" but to me is the oposite. lets just disagree there
 






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im going to interpret what i believe is the meaning behind inner child, let me know if you have any other things to say, and maybe recommend me some songs from the new album for me to interpret? thanks.
btw, this suck so much cause im confused, the lyrics doesnt make sense and it tries so hard to sound deep and sad to the point where i cant even make sense of it because the lyrics just sounds forced, take a look at it yourself.

At that time, we had it tough
While looking up at those stars in the sky, too far out of reach
- he had a very rough and tough childhood, being born in the occult is not an easy job i would say, and i think what he means by stars is his true dreams?

You at that time, didn't believe in galaxies
But I saw it, a silver galaxy
- maybe at that time he didnt believe in the universe being connected to us and everything, but now he understands. silver also means rich and wealth, so that definetly means something.

It must have hurt, it must have been so difficult
I ran towards the endless light
- "light" also means lucyfer

It tingles, that summer day's air
The cold sounds of the grey-lit streets
I draw in a breath and knock at your door
- knocking at a door reminds me of mk ultra, theres a lot of movies explaining a child going through a new world of mk ultra when they enter a door (ex : caroline, narnia, alice,etc)

We gon' change
We gon' change
We gon' change
We gon' change
We gon' change
- he is aiming to changing himself, i dont know if its for the better or for worse.

Now I wish we would smile more
It will be okay, because today's me is doing fine
Yesterday's you, now it's all clear
- the person he is now is doing fInE than he was as a kid

I want to hug the many thorns in the budding rose
- i think this lyrics is just a line to make it seem like the song is dEeP cause i doubt btshit/bigshit actually gave the effort to write songs anymore, now im questioning why im doing this post.

The smiling kid, the child who was always laughing brightly
When I see you like that, I can't help smiling
- it seems to me that he misses his innocence and happiness

Tonight, if I reach my hand to yours
Can you hold that hand?
I'll become you
- he wants to become the child he was, or he wants the child to become him?

You just have to look at my galaxies
Be showered with all those stars
I'll give you my world
- at this point, i thought he isnt actually saying these lines to him in the past, but to someone else, and if he does saying it to himself, the lyrics are self explanatory.

The lights illuminating your eyes, they're the me of now
- maybe he is saying that childlike eyes he had when he was a kid, still remains in him or is now in him, and i was like LMAOOOO youre snakey eyes is FAR from the word childlike.

You’re my boy, my boy
My boy, my boy, my boy
- iM a GoOd bOy. this is also when i started to think that maybe he lyrics is for someone else.

and then the rest of the lyrics saying "we gon' change", weird cause someone said ON is about the change of the world/universe, and then here in this song he said the words "we gon' change" a lot in the chorus.

anyways, what do you guys think? i know this doesnt help AT ALL, like i said, the lyrics sounds forced to the point where i cant logically come up with a conclusion of what the song truly means rather than "tHiS soNg iS aBOUT aRmYs AnD hAtErS aNd lOvInG anD AccEpTInG yOUrSeLf" they always tell in interviews lmao.
 






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im going to interpret what i believe is the meaning behind inner child, let me know if you have any other things to say, and maybe recommend me some songs from the new album for me to interpret? thanks.
btw, this suck so much cause im confused, the lyrics doesnt make sense and it tries so hard to sound deep and sad to the point where i cant even make sense of it because the lyrics just sounds forced, take a look at it yourself.

At that time, we had it tough
While looking up at those stars in the sky, too far out of reach
- he had a very rough and tough childhood, being born in the occult is not an easy job i would say, and i think what he means by stars is his true dreams?

You at that time, didn't believe in galaxies
But I saw it, a silver galaxy
- maybe at that time he didnt believe in the universe being connected to us and everything, but now he understands. silver also means rich and wealth, so that definetly means something.

It must have hurt, it must have been so difficult
I ran towards the endless light
- "light" also means lucyfer

It tingles, that summer day's air
The cold sounds of the grey-lit streets
I draw in a breath and knock at your door
- knocking at a door reminds me of mk ultra, theres a lot of movies explaining a child going through a new world of mk ultra when they enter a door (ex : caroline, narnia, alice,etc)

We gon' change
We gon' change
We gon' change
We gon' change
We gon' change
- he is aiming to changing himself, i dont know if its for the better or for worse.

Now I wish we would smile more
It will be okay, because today's me is doing fine
Yesterday's you, now it's all clear
- the person he is now is doing fInE than he was as a kid

I want to hug the many thorns in the budding rose
- i think this lyrics is just a line to make it seem like the song is dEeP cause i doubt btshit/bigshit actually gave the effort to write songs anymore, now im questioning why im doing this post.

The smiling kid, the child who was always laughing brightly
When I see you like that, I can't help smiling
- it seems to me that he misses his innocence and happiness

Tonight, if I reach my hand to yours
Can you hold that hand?
I'll become you
- he wants to become the child he was, or he wants the child to become him?

You just have to look at my galaxies
Be showered with all those stars
I'll give you my world
- at this point, i thought he isnt actually saying these lines to him in the past, but to someone else, and if he does saying it to himself, the lyrics are self explanatory.

The lights illuminating your eyes, they're the me of now
- maybe he is saying that childlike eyes he had when he was a kid, still remains in him or is now in him, and i was like LMAOOOO youre snakey eyes is FAR from the word childlike.

You’re my boy, my boy
My boy, my boy, my boy
- iM a GoOd bOy. this is also when i started to think that maybe he lyrics is for someone else.

and then the rest of the lyrics saying "we gon' change", weird cause someone said ON is about the change of the world/universe, and then here in this song he said the words "we gon' change" a lot in the chorus.

anyways, what do you guys think? i know this doesnt help AT ALL, like i said, the lyrics sounds forced to the point where i cant logically come up with a conclusion of what the song truly means rather than "tHiS soNg iS aBOUT aRmYs AnD hAtErS aNd lOvInG anD AccEpTInG yOUrSeLf" they always tell in interviews lmao.
I Think this song is pure waffle, just vage lines to feel sympathy towards him and it just shows that the fans will take anything from them , there just obsessed about his voice . He could do mumble rap and they will think its a masterpiece .
 






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Here's the video you can see it with your own two eyes ;)

2:40min.
You're welcome !
Thanks for the receipt.
Lmao poor interviewer looked so confused. I won't judge them for acting weird they were kids but... Anyway I'd rather them acting like that then how V acts nowadays. Cold, high and mighty, like he's on drugs or smth.
 






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I Think this song is pure waffle, just vage lines to feel sympathy towards him and it just shows that the fans will take anything from them , there just obsessed about his voice . He could do mumble rap and they will think its a masterpiece .
yep, and im starting to feel like my analysis is useless, just like the song itself, its just so basic and forced, made to feel sympathy for him and for armys to flaunt about how innocent and "baby" he is. these satanics like to reverse things, so him having this innocent and childlike song is one of the proof that he is the total opposite of that.
 






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Thanks for the receipt.
Lmao poor interviewer looked to confused. I won't judge them for acting weird they were kids but... Anyway I'd rather them acting like that then how V acts nowadays. Cold, high and mighty, like he's on drugs or smth.

What is jk doing at 11:30 , does that mean anything. Reminds me of when he froze and put his arm forward for like 4 seconds .
 






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yep, and im starting to feel like my analysis is useless, just like the song itself, its just so basic and forced, made to feel sympathy for him and for armys to flaunt about how innocent and "baby" he is. these satanics like to reverse things, so him having this innocent and childlike song is one of the proof that he is the total opposite of that.
He didn't even write the song, he probably had nothing to do with it and it was just presented in front of him to sing. Just goes to prove further how the lyrics are fabricated and empty.
 






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yep, and im starting to feel like my analysis is useless, just like the song itself, its just so basic and forced, made to feel sympathy for him and for armys to flaunt about how innocent and "baby" he is. these satanics like to reverse things, so him having this innocent and childlike song is one of the proof that he is the total opposite of that.
Hahahhaha I feel like a lott of their songs have a 2:1 ratio of vague and waffle and the others have a 3:2 ratio of symbolism and waffle HAHAHAHA . It’s quite funny
 






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Absence ?? Didnt they resign their contract in 2018 or something
The oldest J1n has to go to mandatory military service by the end of this year. Since he is already 28. Sug4 by next year, Rrm and Jh0pe a year after Sug4. J1m1n and Vee a year after them. K00kie has about 4 years left, since he doesn't have to go until a year after the 95ers. There is a lot of speculation that they will most likely all serve at the same time instead, so that way it's only a 2 year gap that they are gone. B1g H1t dosen't want to face backlash of BiTS touring without a member, after all the brotherhood and unity they say they have.
 






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