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taepeach

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My goodness tae, if only you were to be this bold in exposing the industry/occult as well. Whats funny is that after he said that EVERYONE was purposely interrupting him when he tried to utter any word lol, he doesnt care on admitting who they are, as if saying "wow look at younger us, we are totally completely different people from those kids on the screen"
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They were talking about how they had no body fat during their debut/trainee years and Its kind of disturbing how they said it so casually..especially since they were basically teenagers at that time....it is already known what trainees have to go through
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! This one was fascinating at 5.07 as JM was saying "what we can do now", J00n lowers his chin (which by itself is a closed gesture), finger retraction (flexion of fingers towards the palm) + either lip compression or a jaw clench + how fixed his eyes were on JM seemed to me like high stress or even held back anger.
While at this moment T3a looked like his right hand was in a tight fist (or maybe he was clenching and rubbing his hands?) and he began heavily breathing. It caught my attention because of how different YG behaved at this point compared to them. While J00n was paying such close attention and T3a was experiencing mild stress, YG seemed like he was stretching his back and clasping his thighs (tired of sitting?)
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Yeah noo, with that face you have 2 seconds to run before you become his next victim lol. I saw his jaw clench!! Tf why does he do that so much he always puts that "did i not tell you to keep your stupid mouth shut?!" look even when some members are not even saying anything serious at all.

Jimin: "sticking together is what brought us to succeed together. We made it together! We are 7! I love our group! :)"
Namjoon: *internally* "you just LOVE provoking me and offending me right:mad:???"

Tae looked like he was avoiding namjoon looking at him that way, as if he felt the tension radiating off of namjoon
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Yeah noo, with that face you have 2 seconds to run before you become his next victim lol. I saw his jaw clench!! Tf why does he do that so much he always puts that "did i not tell you to keep your stupid mouth shut?!" look even when some members are not even saying anything serious at all.

Jimin: "sticking together is what brought us to succeed together. We made it together! We are 7! I love our group! :)"
Namjoon: *internally* "you just LOVE provoking me and offending me right:mad:???"

Tae looked like he was avoiding namjoon looking at him that way, as if he felt the tension radiating off of namjoon
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super confused as to why nj did that, jm said nothing wrong??? he was saying a positive thing, why would he gets so pissed about it?
 






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this goes hand in hand with their 1 and 2 concept photos; and with the themes of accepting your shadows, "the stronger the light the bigger the shadow".
I've notices also:
-multiple mirrors for jin
-black swan Jimin transformation (wings) and performance
-hoseok walking down/ descending a path
-and the final scene of jk's shadow disappearing, could mean his accepted it or he no longer has it because they've become their shadows?
 






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I do
I did feel backaches too. But now it's not as severe as few days ago. You were right. I do feel like I absorb constant energy from others. I feel like broken batteries all the time. I feel restless especially when there is a strong presence in the room. Like I am being sucked.
You sound like an Empath, it can be a blessing and a curse. Take time for yourself alone to recharge and be aware of "energy vampires" (I can't explain but some people will suck the life out of you if given chance, whether they mean to or not). The blessing is that you can give out great compassion and healing to those in need that you notice needing it. Good luck :)
 






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I just don't get how they are claiming that they have no idea about the storyline,yet Kookie was well able to explain his part about him being the devil. Also, if this is true, why Vee suggested the makeup artists to draw him this specific tattoo if it has no correlation with the story? But I agree with his last comment. This storyline was so messed up and artistically pointless that armyz really think that it had some reasoning.

Also, in the new b@ngtan bomb, they visited an artwork and at one point they had to walk in some kind of fog. Then, Vee said "this is right up my alley" and kept reappearing and disappearing. When he reappeared in front of the camera, he whispered "connect" in english with a kinda devilish and cocky grin and disappeared again. (at 2:34-2:50) Is he trying to tell fans to find out who he really is or what? He seems to enjoy his "mysterious/dark" persona.

this goes hand in hand with their 1 and 2 concept photos; and with the themes of accepting your shadows, "the stronger the light the bigger the shadow".
I've notices also:
-multiple mirrors for jin
-black swan Jimin transformation (wings) and performance
-hoseok walking down/ descending a path
-and the final scene of jk's shadow disappearing, could mean his accepted it or he no longer has it because they've their shadows now?
Fans on Twitter are saying how this gave them BST vibes,so they are continuing with the same route. Also, Jimin was transformed into a "black swan" after his duet with Vee, does it mean that Vee lured him into accepting his dark side as he did with J1n in BST?



Also, this says it all


Seriously they should give credits to the movie, they totally ripped it off. It's one thing to draw artistic inspiration from other creators and another to copy everything without offering something new. This happened with "On" too.

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this goes hand in hand with their 1 and 2 concept photos; and with the themes of accepting your shadows, "the stronger the light the bigger the shadow".
I've notices also:
-multiple mirrors for jin
-black swan Jimin transformation (wings) and performance
-hoseok walking down/ descending a path
-and the final scene of jk's shadow disappearing, could mean his accepted it or he no longer has it because they've their shadows now?
I am really interested in a analyse of this mv I saw a lot of things and was wondering wether they where trying to be artsy and vague or not
 






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Yeah noo, with that face you have 2 seconds to run before you become his next victim lol. I saw his jaw clench!! Tf why does he do that so much he always puts that "did i not tell you to keep your stupid mouth shut?!" look even when some members are not even saying anything serious at all.

Jimin: "sticking together is what brought us to succeed together. We made it together! We are 7! I love our group! :)"
Namjoon: *internally* "you just LOVE provoking me and offending me right:mad:???"

Tae looked like he was avoiding namjoon looking at him that way, as if he felt the tension radiating off of namjoon
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Haha, yeah, I wonder what was going on in Namjoon's head at that moment, it's so bizarre.
I'm glad to hear you noticed it too, I thought maybe I was looking at things too closely.

Oooh, now that you say that, I think you might be totally right! I haven't thought of the fact that Tea might've felt the tension and reacted to that. I'm so silly, I thought Tea was reacting to Jimin like Namjoon was. But it does look more like Tea wanted to avoid looking at Namjoon.
 






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Vee is seen looking at us from above. Fans are joking, saying he can step on them etc but that's exactly what they tried to portray. From this angle, he seems like a god looking down on everyone. Also, this lamp gives the impression that there is a halo/the Sun over his head, as far as I'm concerned. He really believes he is some sort of god. And it isn't the first time he is being depicted as the Sun God either.



In the background we can see the gateway to heaven again.
 






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I realized something. I think Black Swan might be connected to Nirvana. This might be a bit of a stretch, but hear me out.
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A song about the death of an artist. His love, enthusiasm, or even ability to create.
The lyrics: "The heart no longer races when hearing music play.
Seems like time has stopped. Oh that would be my first death.
If this can no longer resonate, no longer make my heart vibrate.
No song affects me anymore.
"

Guess what Kurt C0ba1n wrote in his suicide note:
"...I haven't felt the excitement of listening to as well as creating music along with reading and writing for too many years now. I feel guity beyond words about these things.
For example when we're back stage and the lights go out and the manic roar of the crowds begins., it doesn't affect me the way in which it did for Freddie Mercury, who seemed to love, relish in the the love and adoration from the crowd which is something I totally admire and envy. The fact is, I can't fool you, any one of you. It simply isn't fair to you or me. The worst crime I can think of would be to rip people off by faking it and pretending as if I'm having 100% fun. Sometimes I feel as if I should have a punch-in time clock before I walk out on stage. ..."

Why does it seem like BH is taking every chance to connect YG with Kurt C0ba1n?
Not only the white lighter, but also one of Kurt C0ba1n's notes is framed in YG's appartment in the Highlight reels:
(im not sure why exactly this particular note though, so if anyone has any theories, please add)
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Whose songs not only are graffiti in Beetees MV's... like In Bloom from the Nevermind album...
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and what seems to be a reference to Smells like Teen Spirit...
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which is also a song that YG has recommended to ARM1:
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Another thing Kurt C0ba1n writes in his suicide note:
"There's good in all of us and I think I simply love people too much, so much that it makes me feel too fucking sad. The sad little, sensitive, unappreciative, Pisces, Jesus man. Why don't you just enjoy it? I don't know!"

Why would you include your zodiac sign in a suicide note? He identified as a Pisces, and it meant something to him, enough for him to include. Which is a whole other mystery, but guess who else is a Pisces. Yes, YG!

Doesn't the "why dont you just enjoy it" remind you a bit of YG's solo song Shadow?
"All the things you wanted, you’ve got it all
So what’s the problem? Just enjoy it
Or just let it go – no? "

What is BH's obsession with Nirvana and Kurt C0ba1n? Or is it YG's? Maybe he identifies with him in a way? It's just all very weird.
Wow, that is so interesting and on point! Thanks for sharing!
 






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So I had a bit of a theory. Maybe it correlates to why jimin is feeling so sad recently. I can tell because he hasn't been himself in about 3 years but it's more out there these day:

So in the new MV he's the only one who the light shines on (staircase scene) so maybe he associates something more? SO he could be being forced to do sacrifices or anything now. I don't know about you all but this image looks creepy. Like something is wrong? It looks forced like he's locked in metal. Maybe this could mean feelings you can't escape. So maybe now he's the suffering one. They've been using black clothes a lot I wonder why they didn't choose a different comeback style because I thought a few years back they were going for a glitch theme. I don't know what happened to that one.


Bighit's producer even started planning it by liking synthesizer tunes which correlates. But why going back to the black wings? So I feel like they're in a dark time. I also felt like they are trapped especially with the families forcing them in the company. Maybe it's a bit of a can't escape.
 






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Vee is seen looking at us from above. Fans are joking, saying he can step on them etc but that's exactly what they tried to portray. From this angle, he seems like a god looking down on everyone. Also, this lamp gives the impression that there is a halo/the Sun over his head, as far as I'm concerned. He really believes he is some sort of god. And it isn't the first time he is being depicted as the Sun God either.



In the background we can see the gateway to heaven again.
BTS are really promoting that vibe of them being a god to everyone. Armys will bow down to the point where it's too late o_O So I don't like the way things are going. I think this is all part of the plan....
 






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So I had a bit of a theory. Maybe it correlates to why jimin is feeling so sad recently. I can tell because he hasn't been himself in about 3 years but it's more out there these day:

So in the new MV he's the only one who the light shines on (staircase scene) so maybe he associates something more? SO he could be being forced to do sacrifices or anything now. I don't know about you all but this image looks creepy. Like something is wrong? It looks forced like he's locked in metal. Maybe this could mean feelings you can't escape. So maybe now he's the suffering one. They've been using black clothes a lot I wonder why they didn't choose a different comeback style because I thought a few years back they were going for a glitch theme. I don't know what happened to that one.


Bighit's producer even started planning it by liking synthesizer tunes which correlates. But why going back to the black wings? So I feel like they're in a dark time. I also felt like they are trapped especially with the families forcing them in the company. Maybe it's a bit of a can't escape.
His part in the mv was weird indeed as if he was getting possesed on doing those movements on the ground . they do wear a lott of corsets tho
 






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So I had a bit of a theory. Maybe it correlates to why jimin is feeling so sad recently. I can tell because he hasn't been himself in about 3 years but it's more out there these day:

So in the new MV he's the only one who the light shines on (staircase scene) so maybe he associates something more? SO he could be being forced to do sacrifices or anything now. I don't know about you all but this image looks creepy. Like something is wrong? It looks forced like he's locked in metal. Maybe this could mean feelings you can't escape. So maybe now he's the suffering one. They've been using black clothes a lot I wonder why they didn't choose a different comeback style because I thought a few years back they were going for a glitch theme. I don't know what happened to that one.


Bighit's producer even started planning it by liking synthesizer tunes which correlates. But why going back to the black wings? So I feel like they're in a dark time. I also felt like they are trapped especially with the families forcing them in the company. Maybe it's a bit of a can't escape.
Yes, I think you are absolutely right, there's definitely something wrong with Jamal. You can check out this twitter thread if you want, it's pretty interesting as it explains how he seems to have lost his purity but tries to escape from the darkness whereas the others are trying to pull him back in. The OP even mentions that Kookie has lost his shadow due to his dying.


Off topic but I think this mini thread is onto something (mk ultra maybe?)


Also, look at how they casually play with fans' minds/psyches, they certainly have psychiatrists/psychologists in their team and nothing could convince me otherwise. If they do that solely for an MV, you can imagine what else they do on a regular basis.

 






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Hey guys, I’m new here. It’s nice to meet you. I used to be heavy into kpop and OXE was (is??) my ult group. It’s complicated. I grew out of them because I got older and things changed, but I still check out their new music. I just don’t know what they’re doing at all hours of the day anymore. They’ll always have a place in my heart.

I’ve casually liked STB but never got into them heavily. I did notice that their music/concepts and videos have been dark and filled with symbolism in the past few years.

The ON video has so much biblical symbolism like others have pointed out. What really gave me goosebumps was the blowing of the trumpet. I grew up in Islam, and in Islam just before the end of time, a trumpet is blown as a warning. In the next scene, there is violence and chaos.

Their video for Black Swan has the black/white duality and again they’re depicted as fallen angels. It’s not as scary and disturbing as the other ones, symbolism is still there. I actually really like the BS video and watching it, I could feel it entering my heart and carrying me away. It’s very powerful.

They’re all the peak of their career, and the song is about not feeling affected by any of the music they make, and feeling soulless and dazed. It’s so sad.

They absolutely are not just a music group. It makes no sense to put so much occultic and religious symbolism into music that’s meant to be for children.

Also, everything is so layered and requires you to decipher it, which is essentially what occultism is. You’re presented with one thing, but it’s filled with hidden things that are meant to influence you.
 






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All this talk about how unbelieveable it is that Bts have no clue what "ON" even is got me thinking, and this is just me thinking out loud, so I may be completely wrong, but I still wanted to share.
And by the way, I'm not just talking about Bts, but people and artists in general. And this is just a theory, as I have no clue what is going on in Bts' heads, and I have no clue what it's like to be in their position, so keep that in mind.
And maybe Beetees love what they're doing and maybe all the stuff they're doing is right up their alley, I have no clue.

I know people like to joke that entertainers and actors are morons, empty sock puppets who're just parroting whatever they're told, but I have a very hard time believing that none of Bts members ever wondered: "You know, our Mv's are kinda dark and depressing, and fans keep joking that they're in a cult because we keep wearing these cloaks, and we more than half the time have no clue what are the concepts we're pushing, I mean, it's it at least a little bit weird?"

I might be wrong, but I think even the most evil people see themselves as good. No matter how wicked they look to normal, good people, they are probably very clever devils. I mean, look at Lucifer, he sees himself as a victim, that he was thrown out of heaven unfairly, and now he's a little ankle-biter, trying to passive-agressively get back at God.
Freemasons probably dont respect most people, they keep shoving in their faces what they're doing, and people dont react in the slightest, they often dont even acknowledge that something is weird. Nope, they call you a conspiracy theorist, (as if that's something bad, but whatever). Which I always found weird, because how can you not only have no interest, but get angry about just theories?

It's said that the higher your IQ is, the easier it is for you to justify your actions to yourself. As IQ doesnt actually guarantee you'll be wise, or kind, or moral, it's just the ability to see patterns and think logically.
It's very rarely you hear people be honest with themselves, people dont say: "I still have a lot of work I need to do, but I feel so lazy right now, I just want to lie on my couch and watch a stupid romcom, and it's bad, but I'm still gonna do it." Or whatever they fancy. Nope, people go: "I do so much work! No one ever says thank you, I DESERVE this rest. I'm not lazy at all, I'm just treating myself with love!", or "I'm not stealing from my boss, everyone does it! It's his fault he doesn't respect me enough, it's not stealing if I'm taking what is mine!", or "If I dont pick up that wallet that someone lost, someone else will, so who cares who takes it!"

I mean, it's difficult to acknowledge that sometimes we might want to do something selfish or lazy, or be greedy, or that we wronged someone, we're fallen and imperfect after all. It's much easier to imagine that the other person is just bad and we're completely justified.
And I doubt any artist could easily and courageously be honest with themselves and say: "I know that I'm being a total prostitute right
now, I'm selling myself for money, and I'm such a coward, and I'm so addicted to this paper and attention, like some kind of baby, and I know it's wrong, but Im scared that I wont make it otherwise, I really want this", they probably twist and turn it in their minds until they in their eyes become good and right: "It's not that im writing music that I hate for money and awards, no, I really like this kind of music, I really do. And I'm not pushing any kind of satanic agenda, are you insane?!"

And then they get angry when you point it out. Not just angry, they go haywire! They want to tear you down for reminding them of it. Probably because they're terrified that other people see through them, that people see exactly what they're so terrified of admitting to themselves.
They have to twist their bad actions as something good, because otherwise they wouldn't be able to live with themselves.

And not just bad actions, but perhaps even dumb decisions. This might be just wishful thinking, but I'm more inclined to think that Bts are just victims of a rotten system, based on what Prince and other famous musicians have said about the music industry, that you get rich, and also in debt, so you're stuck and cant leave. (And also the fact that Bts have no freedom even just over how much they eat and rest kinda hints at the fact that they have no authority over their lives.) And we know for a fact that in the Kpop industry the company takes more than half the money and that the "idols" go into huge debts to the company. It's kinda like looking at that and thinking "I sold out my youth for this???"

(Perhaps that's why Bts are so terrified of "haters" and every 2nd song (im obviously exaggerating) is written to shit on their "haters". Because any tiny piece of critisism reminds them of something they're so scared of admitting? Because why else do they feel the need to shout that they're rich and successful? Dude, we get it, we see it, it's obvious you're rich and well-known. Or maybe they're not telling it to their haters, but to themselves? It's like a reminder of why exactly they're doing what they do, that it was aaall worth it.)
 






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