BTS discussion thread

[Stephania]

Well.. Thankyou for your concern.. But it doesn't affect us a Bit.. So Lame try by them..

And it must be affecting you.. you have over 20,000 posts on thing

 

[Stephania]

Officially, we do not have a nationality, but I'm Russian

A Russian who is not Asian but Asian?! Are you a disciple of Blavatski? Lol. Stay away from the true Asians, witch.

 

[sandonthebeach]

This is all lip service .. And i would like to see them taking some real action..which they would never.. And Why would they need to post it in some application and not real pages like last year

Agree. I think it's just to scare people and avoid criticism.

 

[asdfghjkl3]

View attachment 24997
View attachment 24998
Take care guys~
I pray they don't hunt us down

If you are not Korean, it is an empty threat. For Americans, as far as I know they are protected by the first amendment (free speech). Europeans are protected by the laws of their own countries, which (aside from the UK) are pretty lax when it comes to online hate speech. Europeans are also protected by the strict data collection laws the European Union implemented.

It is actually really hard to prosecute people from abroad, because most countries protect their citizens.
For example Britain's most dangerous p***phile Charles Taylor David was living in Thailand for years and abusing children there. Even though he was a British citizen, Britain had to fight hard to extradite him and prosecute him in the UK.
Another prominent example is whistleblower Julian Assange. He is wanted by both the US for whistleblowing and by Sweden for sexual assault. But both countries could not do anything about it other than wait because he was protected by a foreign government.
In terms of online activities the most recent example would be the Christchurch shooting massacre. The attacker talked about the shooting and filmed it. The video was quickly deleted from almost all webpages except Kiwifarms. New Zealand's authorities then contacted the admin of Kiwifarms to take down the video and provide them with all posts and the IP adress of the shooter. The admin is American and refused. Because of that New Zealand's authorities basically had to call it a day.
These are serious crimes. What Bighit is talking about is "defamation" and "harrassment". Both are often not seriously prosecuted in Western countries. And if Bighit really wanted to get to you, they would have to go through the courts of your home country. That involves a lot of money and time, if the cases are even taken on by local authorities. And even then, most cases would probably be dismissed in court.
"They wrote that our artist can't sing! They wrote that our artist is gay! They wrote that our artist was lazy on stage and looked as if an Egyptian mummy had risen from it's grave to haunt the living!" What judge wouldn't laugh them out of the court room? At least in my country I am sure that nothing would happen.
What Bighit is doing here is taking control of the narative. They are dangling the threat of prosecution over people's heads to scare them from expressing criticism. The fans become paranoid and will not dare to critcise and even start to police other fans. That means less work for Bighit, because fans are working for them.
Now why did they publish this now at this time? In my opinion, they are using Weverse and all the other apps for data mining, also known as Big Data. They collect as much data as possible from their users and analyse it to make content that is fitted exactly to the needs of the consumers. Through that they generate more profit. That might be one of the reasons why they made Weverse in the first place. Before they used twitter, where they could only analyse tweets by tracking names and hashtags. The really valuable info is on the twitter servers, which are in the US and twitter doesn't sell that kind of data. By redirecting fans to their own platform they could get access to this data.
Now with this break and the recent announcements fans weren't exactly happy. You could see the amount of critical posts rising on twitter. @NotDelulu made a great post about that a few pages earlier. My guess is that it became to "dangerous" for Bighit, they were scared that they might lose control over the narrative and it might spiral into a shitstorm. This is a preemptive measure to stop the criticism, on a platform where they have full control and it will create a spill-over effect on other platforms. And it's working, right? Even here posters are wondering if they might be in trouble. It's a tactic used to exhaustion by both fascist and communist regimes.

 

[Stephania]

Asians living in Russia will never say that they are Russian, they will say that they are citizens of Russia. Our nationality is not even written in our passport. And yes, who is Blavatsky?

She is an evil witch who inspired notaries like Hitler and the satanic new age... But these are her roots. What.. you don't have google to look up her? https://www.learnreligions.com/helena-blavatsky-4690489

 

[Stephania]

You know, I won’t answer you anymore. With this argument we clog this thread, you can’t do this. If you consider me a witch, this is your right, I don’t mind.

I said she was a witch.. not you. That's telling. But why as a Russian are you telling Asians their identities?

 

[Hopeful]

And it must be affecting you.. you have over 20,000 posts on thing

No it doesn't.. It didn't affect me last time.. Still won't.. And that's what i would advise others who post here

 

[Scars512]

I said she was a witch.. not you. That's telling. But why as a Russian are you telling Asians their identities?

Look, this is a thread for discussing BTS. Not really the place for this kind of stuff. And who cares what nationality or race anyone posting here is? I'm not going to quiz anyone about that kind of stuff because it has no real relevance. I only care what their perspective on BTS is. So, could we please get back to the topic of the thread? If you don't have any opinion on BTS, this might not be the thread for you.

 

[Stephania]

Look, this is a thread for discussing BTS. Not really the place for this kind of stuff. And who cares what nationality or race anyone posting here is? I'm not going to quiz anyone about that kind of stuff because it has no real relevance. I only care what their perspective on BTS is. So, could we please get back to the topic of the thread? If you don't have any opinion on BTS, this might not be the thread for you.

BTS are products of this thing, not asian culture. And trust me, this supposed Russian person is a troll for the agenda. Satanic nwo .. that is what this thread is about, right? And pps: Blavatski doesn't really represent Russians either. They are not Asian. This is sorcery

 

[Stephania]

Ты забавный,даже слишком забавный

Translate.
I don't understand
Russian
and
neither
do Asians

 

[deniiiiXD]

Hello everyone
I am an old member of this thread that made a statement a while ago.
I don't know how many of you that know about it are still here but I should say this anyway
I am afraid that I can't make more videos about bts and illuminati in general.

I am coming from a Christian family, and I was taught many Christian rules and restrictions. One of them is listening to your parents. My parents found out recently about my videos and told me that it's way too dangerous to go on making them, and that they are afraid people I fight against might notice me and hurt me.
I am not believing that it is the case and they are right, but I am afraid that even tho they might be wrong, not listening to them might bring some mischief.
I am very happy that I was able to make 2 videos about it and that I could save and protect many people from being exposed to such bait.

The last things I wanted to talk about were MKultra, moonchild theory and TXT. I also had some other suggestions from people before that I accepted initially.
I hope there could be someone that will carefully talk about this and help people see the truth. By now, Mkultra theory made many people see BTS in another light and leave the fandom, so I believe a video about it would help a lot.
For the ones that don't know about my videos here they are:
(one of them gained and is still gains a lot of attention fortunatelly)

Again I am really sorry I can't make other videos about this. I really had many other plans related to the kpop industry that not many talk about. If you are willing to make videos about this topic use info from this thread and the kpop thread as well. You can use the search tool to find posts about certain topics. I think this is the most informative place related to this subject in the whole internet.

 

[Scars512]

the worst things that has been spread about were done by the fans themself(internationals), so i wonder if they will sue them or they will focus on the k haters site

I honestly doubt that they are going to sue a lot of people. They might sue one or two to make an example out of them, but this is mostly just a bluff to scare off a lot of young fans from criticizing them. They count on most BTS fans being kids who don't know the law and who might be terrified by this to keep their mouth shut and not voice any negative criticism about them.

It seems to me that BTS pretends that they are teaching kids that you should ignore the haters and love yourself -- but, it looks like they are pretty thin skinned and take every single negative thing way too seriously. Maybe they should learn to love themselves a little bit more, too.

 

[Stephania]

Я не тролль и я русская,тебе стоит успокоиться.Ты можешь воспользоваться гугл переводчиком что бы перевести это...или у тебя его нет??

Trolio

 

[deniiiiXD]

View attachment 24997
View attachment 24998
Take care guys~
I pray they don't hunt us down

Guys I was an army for so many years and also a hater for so many years since I started being more and more aware of this shit going on. I guess BTS and Bighit are just afraid to have the truth spread as it might influence other people so they bring fear into people.
But I guarantee that I was their worst enemy in the past years on twitter. Imagine how much grudge I had on them after they almost made me fall apart. So I made sure they see my anger. I sent them emails and tweets regularly with photos and even went on waverse to tell them that I still believe they are satanic and sick. I spammed all their accounts heh

And I never received a glimpse of attention from them back. They are just scared chickens

 

[OvercomeItAll]

Hello everyone
I am an old member of this thread that made a statement a while ago.
I don't know how many of you that know about it are still here but I should say this anyway
I am afraid that I can't make more videos about bts and illuminati in general.

I am coming from a Christian family, and I was taught many Christian rules and restrictions. One of them is listening to your parents. My parents found out recently about my videos and told me that it's way too dangerous to go on making them, and that they are afraid people I fight against might notice me and hurt me.
I am not believing that it is the case and they are right, but I am afraid that even tho they might be wrong, not listening to them might bring some mischief.
I am very happy that I was able to make 2 videos about it and that I could save and protect many people from being exposed to such bait.

The last things I wanted to talk about were MKultra, moonchild theory and TXT. I also had some other suggestions from people before that I accepted initially.
I hope there could be someone that will carefully talk about this and help people see the truth. By now, Mkultra theory made many people see BTS in another light and leave the fandom, so I believe a video about it would help a lot.
For the ones that don't know about my videos here they are:
(one of them gained and is still gains a lot of attention fortunatelly)

Again I am really sorry I can't make other videos about this. I really had many other plans related to the kpop industry that not many talk about. If you are willing to make videos about this topic use info from this thread and the kpop thread as well. You can use the search tool to find posts about certain topics. I think this is the most informative place related to this subject in the whole internet.

Your videos are incredibly informative and so impactful, thank you for your hard work. But your family is right to be at least a little afraid and want to be more cautious. You've opened a lot of people's eyes to this mess already, so you've done more than enough

 

[Hopeful]

by the way is this thread moderated?
i think that should be necessary t be sure nobody crosses the line.
I've read that this site had to delete a bt 5 article but i'm not sure if it's true.

There are no moderators here.. But the Admin is cool. He keeps trolls in check and bans people if necessary.. Unnecessary posts do get deleted with time though...

 

[blackdwarf]

Guys. I'm sorry derailing this thread.

Several hours ago I have a problem with my college friends and apparently they were undirectly insult me in a group chat. Me myself who had a struggle for making me feel good in my university (since I really didn't like being there for some reason) now really wanted to escape from that shit (sorry actually I don't have to swear because it was a misunderstanding but I'm really pissed off and crying and feel more anxious)

I don't want to be selfish but maybe they will call me 'a fucking selfish one'. I'm really anxious but also pissed off. I'm not really want to be selfish. But, my parents said that I have to focus on my test than thinking about them. I did think about them, but yeah I'm too reserved so I can't show my caring for them and maybe actually they only think of themself too (just a thought)

I really really want to escapee T_T my uni life is kind of shit really

I want to really fucking get out from this kpop thing but when I feel depressed like this I just want to look into kpop. A moments ago I tried to not watch kpop but then I watch the kpop parody videos and I laughed because of the lyrics, and feel happier, no longer upset.

Is it okay to watch the kpop videos although it was just a parody and the lyrics was changed to ur language as a comedy? Sorry because of my swearings but I'm really pissed off because of this anxiety and this kpop thing is the one and only which can cure me at this time.

I want to be happier but I don't want to fall into the rabbit hole again. BT5 things and their fake utopia that they served to me was enough for me. I don't want to fall again. No. My uni life is so much hard comparing to my high school life

 

[blackdwarf]

First of all.. Don't ever think of leaving uni as this will affect your future and your parents will be hurt and you yourself will regret leaving uni one day but time would never come back..

2nd... If you find happiness in watching parodies.. It's okay.. It's okay if it's helping you with your studies and keeping up with uni... It is their Music that's d3vilish...refrain from Music..

Don't push yourself.. Things take time.. You can't directly cut off everything.. You can stay Woke along the way...

Thank youu Sis T_T now I've minimized my anxiety and being better but I still can't sleep XD and now it's 9 PM in my country n I have to sleep^^

Yes, you're right. I shouldn't think of leaving uni but now I have a test for a better uni (maybe it's not called uni but it is kind of an Academy which u can being given a job by the Academy after graduation) and I really hope that God will make me passing the test so I can leave my uni for the Academy. At least I just have to struggle for 10 days until the announcement of the names who passed some test and will be a part of Academy.

But, I realized that forcing ur God to make ur wishes come true is really forbidden. Because God is our God and we're worshipping God, He is not our servant, He's our God who rules anything we do. He can do anything that He wants to do but He knows what r the best for us.

So I have a plan. If I can't be the part of that Academy, I will take a test and go to another university (university that I wanna to go, ofc) next year. I'll be new college student again but it's okay. At least I will not putting my foot on that uni's grass again

About the parody videos... maybe it's okay like as u said. Since I've woke up I will still aware of all of the things that can detached me from God, right? I really need His help and if I have to struggle until next year, I don't know what will happen to me.

Anyway thank u for ur words, Sis!

 

[cadiz]

I think a lot of the users here are only familiar with BTS and not other kpop groups
But you should know.....it's normal in korea to sue people for malicious comments, and several kpop groups did it (mamamoo and twice an example)

here is an article:

An update has been revealed on MAMAMOO taking action on malicious commenters.

On October 8, the Gangnam Police Station and MAMAMOO’s legal representatives stated that complaints were filed against four netizens, four netizens have been leaving malicious comments, including sexually harassing remarks, through Twitter and other forms of social media.

but those rules dont apply outside of korea.....like other person said its basically impossible to sue everyone who makes a "malicious" comment around the globe .....if you go on twitter you can find a million hate comments about BTS.....you think all that people will get sued?

lol dont fear about that weverse thing because its just empty threats

 

[Popping]

A Russian who is not Asian but Asian?! Are you a disciple of Blavatski? Lol. Stay away from the true Asians, witch.

The heck you are calling her a witch? Before anything,she's a human. Respect the person.