Ancient Egyptians are Black

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I thought the same as you however found out it was false, Ancient Egyptians were initially black.The Greek travellers compared the ancient Egyptians to look similar to Cushites meaning they knew they were different from each other yet they looked similar.Look at the videos I linked
Ok intriguing, do you have a citation for those greek travelers? I only watched the first video and found it lacking. It reminded me of that youtube dude who tried to pass himself as an academic and convince the gullible that europe (including certain slavic countries) had black nobility in the middle ages by using paintings that clearly depicted the magi with their gifts yet he claimed were noble knights from Bohemia. Same level of discourse.
 
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Objectively, your people are the biggest murderers, thieves, and rapists known to man
If you isolate the crime rate of black Americans only, it is a comparable violent crime rate to the Congo and equatorial guinea ie comparible to some of the most violent countries in the world (also populated by blacks coincidentally).

White Americans crime rate, isolated, is a similar crime rate to Switzerland or Italy ie extremely low (also white countries coincidentally). So objectively in America, blacks are the "biggest rapists, theives, murderers" by orders of magnitude
Moors ruled the entirety of Europe and they are the only reason why Europeans today are successful. They did in fact teach them all human essentials; bathing, cooking, building
Wrong and wrong. Where do you hear this stuff, im curious, or do you just makenit up?
Moors ruled a little piece of Spain, and Europeans were building temples and cities still around today a few thousand years before that....
 
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Everytime a topic of black and white history comes up, you always like to mock me.
But how do you reconcile the fact that sub saharran Africans literally never invented the wheel, while believing that they simultaneously were the paragon of technological advancement.
Some other things they never invented, metallurgy, the concept of numbers, two story buildings. How did they not invent two story buildings and yet you assert that they taught Europeans how to build? It's a laughable stance, sorry if it comes off as mocking to state that they never invented the wheel in their land, but its just a simple fact actually.
 

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If you isolate the crime rate of black Americans only, it is a comparable violent crime rate to the Congo and equatorial guinea ie comparible to some of the most violent countries in the world (also populated by blacks coincidentally).

White Americans crime rate, isolated, is a similar crime rate to Switzerland or Italy ie extremely low (also white countries coincidentally). So objectively in America, blacks are the "biggest rapists, theives, murderers" by orders of magnitude

Wrong and wrong. Where do you hear this stuff, im curious, or do you just makenit up?
Moors ruled a little piece of Spain, and Europeans were building temples and cities still around today a few thousand years before that....
Crime rate in Italy low? Really? It's a very corrupt country. Switzerland is headquarters to some of the worst criminals in the world... But yeah I get that you are merely replying to some seriously weird claims. But maybe skin color has nothing to do with these things.
 
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Crime rate in Italy low? Really? It's a very corrupt country. Switzerland is headquarters to some of the worst criminals in the world... But yeah I get that you are merely replying to some seriously weird claims. But maybe skin color has nothing to do with these things.
Violent crime in Italy and Switzerland are low, not non existent. Sure Switzerland has headquarters of the cia and wef, but crime among the population is minimal. Governments are corrupt but compare them to African countries again and you aren't looking at shining virtue either. What was that African country that advanced their industry 100 fold in a few decades and the people remained impoverished because it all went to the presidents daughters foundation? She was one of the richest people in the world because she essentially had the wealth of her countries advancement in her own bank account. I forget which one.
 

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Insanity.
Melanin is produced in people that have any type of skin, not just "black". I should know, I have pretty dark hair. My mum has jet black hair... Sunburns are universal, black, white - all alike can get them. Though obviously white skin is more susceptible to sunburns but with care you can get a nice tan without getting burned. Clothes were not primarily invented to shield the skin from the sun but to prevent loss of heat in colder climates.
Moors never ruled the entirety of Europe. How, when? Where did you get that from?!?! Why are you spewing such lies. That is some diabolical twisting of reality. And I am pretty sure that europeans bathed and cooked and wrote and painted and built and philosophised before the moors came to europe.
And no, the egyptians were not the "original beings of the earth". Even in my tiny country you can find relics from the past (certain musical instruments) that predate by around 40000 years anything from what you might call egyptian culture.
Europeans are not of one culture nor are africans... You have this literal black and white notion of culture that has nothing to do with reality. My people for example never colonised anyone but were in fact colonised by Ottoman invaders so don't lump every white person with say the British. I don't identify as white culturally as there is no such thing as white culture, nor is there such a thing as black culture.
You're not understanding what I'm saying. And this is a borderline argument we've been having for 24 hours.

1. Melanin can be produced in other races, yes. But that isn't my argument. I'm saying Black people are the original melanated people. The only reason why other races can produce SOME Melanin is because they're mutations of Black people. Do you get it?

2. I know Black people can get affected by the sun. My argument is that it's nowhere near as bad if a white person were to get affected. You guys turn red quite fast.

3. Do you actually want me to provide you accurate sources to back up my claims that Moors taught Europeans everything, because I have a slight feeling you would rather not accept it and continue yelling. I'll do it in a separate post anyway, though.

4. The Black race ARE the original beings of earth. Everything started in Africa. Like I really don't know what else to say. The garden of Eden may not specifically be in Egypt but it was located somewhere in Africa.

5. I'm not lumping in every white person with the British. When I say "white" I'm speaking generally. White American, French, German, British, Irish, Spaniards, the list goes on. The white race as a collective have ruined the planet and as a result, everyone sees white people as superior because they put that deceiving mindset on everyone. Yes, it was THAT bad. Everyone, not just Black people, are heavily affected. That's why a lot of us are trying to break what we call "generational curses".
 

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You're not understanding what I'm saying. And this is a borderline argument we've been having for 24 hours.

1. Melanin can be produced in other races, yes. But that isn't my argument. I'm saying Black people are the original melanated people. The only reason why other races can produce SOME Melanin is because they're mutations of Black people. Do you get it?

2. I know Black people can get affected by the sun. My argument is that it's nowhere near as bad if a white person were to get affected. You guys turn red quite fast.

3. Do you actually want me to provide you accurate sources to back up my claims that Moors taught Europeans everything, because I have a slight feeling you would rather not accept it and continue yelling. I'll do it in a separate post anyway, though.

4. The Black race ARE the original beings of earth. Everything started in Africa. Like I really don't know what else to say. The garden of Eden may not specifically be in Egypt but it was located somewhere in Africa.

5. I'm not lumping in every white person with the British. When I say "white" I'm speaking generally. White American, French, German, British, Irish, Spaniards, the list goes on. The white race as a collective have ruined the planet and as a result, everyone sees white people as superior because they put that deceiving mindset on everyone. Yes, it was THAT bad. Everyone, not just Black people, are heavily affected. That's why a lot of us are trying to break what we call "generational curses".
Please do provide sources for your claims. I am especially interested about the sources that malign the history of moorish relations with europeans.
How does "everyone sees white people as superior" follow from "the white race as a collective have ruined the planet"? Plus both claims are highly debatable in the first place. I completely disagree with both as it is crystal clear to anyone that is honest with himself that race has no relation to moral goodness and that there is no group in this world that is completely blameless.
I also don't think that we know what race came first - white, black, pink, blue. But even if I knew that the first humans were snow-white that would be irrelevant to my position on racial superiority. What is derived, what follows is not necessarily worse as the original. That would be like saying that parents are better than their children.
 
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You're not understanding what I'm saying. And this is a borderline argument we've been having for 24 hours.

1. Melanin can be produced in other races, yes. But that isn't my argument. I'm saying Black people are the original melanated people. The only reason why other races can produce SOME Melanin is because they're mutations of Black people. Do you get it?

2. I know Black people can get affected by the sun. My argument is that it's nowhere near as bad if a white person were to get affected. You guys turn red quite fast.

3. Do you actually want me to provide you accurate sources to back up my claims that Moors taught Europeans everything, because I have a slight feeling you would rather not accept it and continue yelling. I'll do it in a separate post anyway, though.

4. The Black race ARE the original beings of earth. Everything started in Africa. Like I really don't know what else to say. The garden of Eden may not specifically be in Egypt but it was located somewhere in Africa.

5. I'm not lumping in every white person with the British. When I say "white" I'm speaking generally. White American, French, German, British, Irish, Spaniards, the list goes on. The white race as a collective have ruined the planet and as a result, everyone sees white people as superior because they put that deceiving mindset on everyone. Yes, it was THAT bad. Everyone, not just Black people, are heavily affected. That's why a lot of us are trying to break what we call "generational curses".
The garden of Eden would be in so-called Iraq. If we consider the Middle East is Africa, it would be in Africa.

All that said, the monkey evolution story is the creation of Darwin, a Mason.
 

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Please do provide sources for your claims. I am especially interested about the sources that malign the history of moorish relations with europeans.
How does "everyone sees white people as superior" follow from "the white race as a collective have ruined the planet"? Plus both claims are highly debatable in the first place. I completely disagree with both as it is crystal clear to anyone that is honest with himself that race has no relation to moral goodness and that there is no group in this world that is completely blameless.
I also don't think that we know what race came first - white, black, pink, blue. But even if I knew that the first humans were snow-white that would be irrelevant to my position on racial superiority. What is derived, what follows is not necessarily worse as the original. That would be like saying that parents are better than their children.
Okay.

So this first article mostly speaks of the state of Europe in general centuries ago. People have common knowledge that in the 19th century, Europeans didn't really bathe. By that time, they just put on perfume to make it through out the day. But a lot of people don't know that this stems from their ancestors even farther back, thus here is the article of how Europe was.


This next article speaks on exactly HOW the Moors contributed to Europe. From teaching them how to simply bathe and cook to teaching them about mathematics and architecture. I'm sorry, but without them- the world, that currently runs on white supremacy, wouldn't be as advanced as it is today.


Black woman and children bathing white women and children:

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Visual of how the Moors contributed to Europe:

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Black people are quite literally the blueprint. In the Bible, it even says they are the salt of the earth. Why do you think nearly the entirety of the fashion and music industries sing, dance, and wear fashion that derives from Black culture? Most music genres, dancing styles, clothing? What about AAVE (African American Vernacular English) that the world likes to use? Slang, certain mannerisms, all of that taken by everyone else and is now referred to as "Internet slang" when it's really not.

In the 80's-early 2000's Black people were shamed for wearing long nails, sweats, sneakers, braids, etc. They were deemed "ghetto" and were presumed to be "messy" and "gangster-like" while white "preppy" outfits was more of the norm then. But now all of a sudden these days, it's cool to be wearing all that by other races yet Black people were shamed for wearing their own creations back then, and sometimes still are to this day!

And it gets deeper- which in this case would be our original topic; Moors teaching Europeans everything they need to know.

Now you know why your people have great disdain for my people. Because we came first, and we established everything. There are many white people who have come to admit that these days, even celebrities have spoken about it. People like Michael Jackson were silenced for a reason, you know.

You're free to ask me questions or more of my knowledge on this, but let's not argue. If you do reply to me denying ANY of this whatsoever, the conversation ends here. Because I can't be going back and forth like that. You believe it? That's great, I'm glad you learned something new. You don't believe it and probably think I'm racist just for teaching you history in an objective standpoint? Okay, let's talk to other people then!
 
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Okay.

So this first article mostly speaks of the state of Europe in general centuries ago. People have common knowledge that in the 19th century, Europeans didn't really bathe. By that time, they just put on perfume to make it through out the day. But a lot of people don't know that this stems from their ancestors even farther back, thus here is the article of how Europe was.


This next article speaks on exactly HOW the Moors contributed to Europe. From teaching them how to simply bathe and cook to teaching them about mathematics and architecture. I'm sorry, but without them- the world, that currently runs on white supremacy, wouldn't be as advanced as it is today.


Black woman and children bathing white women and children:

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Visual of how the Moors contributed to Europe:

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Black people are quite literally the blueprint. In the Bible, it even says they are the salt of the earth. Why do you think nearly the entirety of the fashion and music industries sing, dance, and wear fashion that derives from Black culture? Most music genres, dancing styles, clothing? What about AAVE (African American Vernacular English) that the world likes to use? Slang, certain mannerisms, all of that taken by everyone else and is now referred to as "Internet slang" when it's really not.

In the 80's-early 2000's Black people were shamed for wearing long nails, sweats, sneakers, braids, etc. They were deemed "ghetto" and were presumed to be "messy" and "gangster-like" while white "preppy" outfits was more of the norm then. But now all of a sudden these days, it's cool to be wearing all that by other races yet Black people were shamed for wearing their own creations back then, and sometimes still are to this day!

And it gets deeper- which in this case would be our original topic; Moors teaching Europeans everything they need to know.

Now you know why your people have great disdain for my people. Because we came first, and we established everything. There are many white people who have come to admit that these days, even celebrities have spoken about it. People like Michael Jackson were silenced for a reason, you know.

You're free to ask me questions or more of my knowledge on this, but let's not argue. If you do reply to me denying ANY of this whatsoever, the conversation ends here. Because I can't be going back and forth like that. You believe it? That's great, I'm glad you learned something new. You don't believe it and probably think I'm racist just for teaching you history in an objective standpoint? Okay, let's talk to other people then!
Unfortunately the article you linked is incorrect, very narrow in its research and its inclusion of information. Not to mention that it is badly written, clueless and is in great need of correct citations. Bathing houses were common throughout europe even in the middle ages. Perfume as disguise of body stench - yeah there were some crazy nobles doing that instead of bathing. A few outliers however do not make the whole.

Guitar as a moorish contribution? I mean yeah lutes and ouds have some common features, but the "moorish" music traditions (and instrument building traditions) and european ones are pretty far apart and very distinct in technique, music theory, intent and breadth. What you could call the modern guitar is a pretty late design, dating to the 19th century. Sure ouds were influential in the development of guitars through its influence on lute designs, but so were the greek kithara and other plucked string instruments. But more to the point. How are ouds the creation of "black cultures".
As for cultural influence - yes, the moors did influence european cultures, as did european cultures influence the moorish ones. That has never been denied nor hidden and is common knowledge.

Papermaking was a chinese invention. Came to europe via arabic cultures as far as I know but was not used commonly until the invention of the printing press.

Astrological systems were devised in most ancient cultures and were not specific to any. Ancient China, India, Sumeria, Babylon, Greece, Egypt... all had distinct systems.

How are most music genres derived from "Black culture"? That is preposterous and very narrow-minded. Again, hundreds of thousands of individuals have had their share in the shaping of music genres, some black, some not. To pin point the exact origins of any is impossible and even trying to do that misunderstands the nature of musical creativity.

Asking not to argue? That is what forums are for - to debate, to share and to argue one's points in search of truth. But hey if you want to live in a solipsistic dream world of illusions you can do that. It is not healthy though and it leads to greater and greater problems in life.

And again, my people are not "white people", that is like saying to a chinese that his people are the japanese. Impossible as the geographical and historical differences have shaped them into two distinct cultures. Most of the people I know from my culture have no problem with black people, nor do they shame them, nor do they have disdain for them - they mostly don't even have any contact with black people as until recently there were barely any in my country.
 
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People have common knowledge that in the 19th century, Europeans didn't really bathe
Lol . Where i am from saunas have been found that are more than 2000 years old and sauna has been usual way of washing in the north for ages.Pretty sure africans had nothing to do with it . When did africans or moors rule over Finland or Estonia or when was it when they spread their mighty wisdom in those regions ? Most people have always lived in either villages or farms,tiny portion was in cities . Just because some inbred royalty somewhere never washed themselves and used perfume doesnt mean the whole continent did it.

Overall your claims that moors or africans teached europeans or the rest of the world everything they know are just silly. There are parts of africa where their culture has remained largely the same for probably thousands of years . You might wanna check out some visual evidence.

Pay attention to architecture,cooking skills,hygiene,fashion and other peculiarities. Seems they teached europeans only the boring sciences and kept to themselves all the fun stuff.

Pretty much all cultures have prospered around mediterranean,no matter the skincolor or religion.Mediterranean got decent warm climate and close proximity and easy acess to dozens of other cultures and thats the main thing.Proximity to the sea makes trading and traveling alot easier.Landlocked cultures have it harder and still do.It's easy to float heavy stuff on the water for long distances but try to drag that same amount of stuff through jungle or over the hills into some hard to reach place for trading purposes...Aint really worth it.
If you wish to believe that it was people with certain skintone that developed the mediterranean region and whole europe then i guess no facts can change that belief.It seems more that africans became more developed the more closer they got to mediterranean while rest of the africa remained largely the same (because they were/are largely landlocked).


Caucasians dont have much to do with caucasia.White people most likely came from northeast asia(probably survivors of Hyperborea) around 10-11 000 years ago and split into several groups.One reached north of India ,second group reached Iran/Persia,third to Palestine,fourth to Greece and fifth to france and other parts of europe (celts and anglo-saxons and nordic people etc ).One group probably also reached china (tall ginger mummies of china) and some might have reached american continents (Viracocha story).
This "all-people-come-from-africa" is still just a theory(pushed by evil white people so how can you believe such nonsense ?).
Next to africa you got large sunken landmass that some suspect is Lemuria and is not much studied and there aremany other grey parts and untold stuff about history so forming any radical conclusions seems unwise..
The white race as a collective have ruined the planet
What was my part in it ? And what sort of punishment do you see fit to this collective ?
 

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Unfortunately the article you linked is incorrect, very narrow in its research and its inclusion of information. Not to mention that it is badly written, clueless and is in great need of correct citations. Bathing houses were common throughout europe even in the middle ages. Perfume as disguise of body stench - yeah there were some crazy nobles doing that instead of bathing. A few outliers however do not make the whole.

Guitar as a moorish contribution? I mean yeah lutes and ouds have some common features, but the "moorish" music traditions (and instrument building traditions) and european ones are pretty far apart and very distinct in technique, music theory, intent and breadth. What you could call the modern guitar is a pretty late design, dating to the 19th century. Sure ouds were influential in the development of guitars through its influence on lute designs, but so were the greek kithara and other plucked string instruments. But more to the point. How are ouds the creation of "black cultures".
As for cultural influence - yes, the moors did influence european cultures, as did european cultures influence the moorish ones. That has never been denied nor hidden and is common knowledge.

Papermaking was a chinese invention. Came to europe via arabic cultures as far as I know but was not used commonly until the invention of the printing press.

Astrological systems were devised in most ancient cultures and were not specific to any. Ancient China, India, Sumeria, Babylon, Greece, Egypt... all had distinct systems.

How are most music genres derived from "Black culture"? That is preposterous and very narrow-minded. Again, hundreds of thousands of individuals have had their share in the shaping of music genres, some black, some not. To pin point the exact origins of any is impossible and even trying to do that misunderstands the nature of musical creativity.

Asking not to argue? That is what forums are for - to debate, to share and to argue one's points in search of truth. But hey if you want to live in a solipsistic dream world of illusions you can do that. It is not healthy though and it leads to greater and greater problems in life.

And again, my people are not "white people", that is like saying to a chinese that his people are the japanese. Impossible as the geographical and historical differences have shaped them into two distinct cultures. Most of the people I know from my culture have no problem with black people, nor do they shame them, nor do they have disdain for them - they mostly don't even have any contact with black people as until recently there were barely any in my country.
Okay, agree to disagree.
 

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Lol . Where i am from saunas have been found that are more than 2000 years old and sauna has been usual way of washing in the north for ages.Pretty sure africans had nothing to do with it . When did africans or moors rule over Finland or Estonia or when was it when they spread their mighty wisdom in those regions ? Most people have always lived in either villages or farms,tiny portion was in cities . Just because some inbred royalty somewhere never washed themselves and used perfume doesnt mean the whole continent did it.

Overall your claims that moors or africans teached europeans or the rest of the world everything they know are just silly. There are parts of africa where their culture has remained largely the same for probably thousands of years . You might wanna check out some visual evidence.

Pay attention to architecture,cooking skills,hygiene,fashion and other peculiarities. Seems they teached europeans only the boring sciences and kept to themselves all the fun stuff.

Pretty much all cultures have prospered around mediterranean,no matter the skincolor or religion.Mediterranean got decent warm climate and close proximity and easy acess to dozens of other cultures and thats the main thing.Proximity to the sea makes trading and traveling alot easier.Landlocked cultures have it harder and still do.It's easy to float heavy stuff on the water for long distances but try to drag that same amount of stuff through jungle or over the hills into some hard to reach place for trading purposes...Aint really worth it.
If you wish to believe that it was people with certain skintone that developed the mediterranean region and whole europe then i guess no facts can change that belief.It seems more that africans became more developed the more closer they got to mediterranean while rest of the africa remained largely the same (because they were/are largely landlocked).


Caucasians dont have much to do with caucasia.White people most likely came from northeast asia(probably survivors of Hyperborea) around 10-11 000 years ago and split into several groups.One reached north of India ,second group reached Iran/Persia,third to Palestine,fourth to Greece and fifth to france and other parts of europe (celts and anglo-saxons and nordic people etc ).One group probably also reached china (tall ginger mummies of china) and some might have reached american continents (Viracocha story).
This "all-people-come-from-africa" is still just a theory(pushed by evil white people so how can you believe such nonsense ?).
Next to africa you got large sunken landmass that some suspect is Lemuria and is not much studied and there aremany other grey parts and untold stuff about history so forming any radical conclusions seems unwise..

What was my part in it ? And what sort of punishment do you see fit to this collective ?


The original inhabitants of the planet are dark brown people. That’s pretty obvious.

Are those people called Africans? No, we can call them so-called Blacks if you’d like.

I’d prefer the human race. Or we call them the people of Adam.

The original Chinese? Dark brown.Their descendants still live in China in the South.
The original Indians? Dark brown. The Dalit.
The original Americans? Dark brown. Often misnomered.

Africans? That’s not even the original name of that continent.
 

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The original inhabitants of the planet are dark brown people. That’s pretty obvious.

Are those people called Africans? No, we can call them so-called Blacks if you’d like.

I’d prefer the human race. Or we call them the people of Adam.

The original Chinese? Dark brown.Their descendants still live in China in the South.
The original Indians? Dark brown. The Dalit.
The original Americans? Dark brown. Often misnomered.

Africans? That’s not even the original name of that continent.
Pretty much. Also, for those who want to think otherwise, take a look at this:

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Notice that "N-gro", "Colored person", "Black" is directly correlated with "Image of God" Not only were they the first people, but God himself, his son, and all angels are also of dark skin tone. What's the color of dirt that Adam was made from? Commonly dark brown right? What does Black woman mean again? Mother of the earth? What did Maccabees say? That the heathen wanted to re-paint all original images in THEIR likeness instead?

And that's it. I'm finished. I'm no longer going to try getting whoever denies this to believe me. Have fun disbelieving all you want, because there will be a time it'll be in front of your face and by then, you can no longer run from it. God will be the one to end all of this mess.

@FilthPig you asked me what punishment I see fit? Well the answer is, what I see doesn't matter. Truly, it doesn't. Because God has already put multiple punishments in place. Therefore whatever I think should happen doesn't matter, because everyone's fate is already sealed. If you really want to know, I advise you to read Isaiah. God punishes descendants for they, and their ancestors crimes. So even if you had nothing to do with slavery- if you descend from a certain demographic of people that were involved...it won't be pretty. Black people aren't exempt from this either- whoever is a traitor and sold their own people like during the Atlantic Slave Trade will reap what they sow. In addition, whoever sold their soul just to reach the upper hierarchy where the white man dwells- they're receiving harsh punishment as well. Beyonce, and Jay Z for example.

One day you're not going to be able to have your cake and eat it too. And once that day comes, it's not going to be my problem.
 
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