Ancient Egyptians are Black

[amaranthine]

No the thread was debunked but you don’t operate in reality.

You’re a Nazi you just don’t have the balls to admit it.

Revisionism is just denial and it’s a ploy developed by Nazis in the 70s to rehabilitate the image of Nazis. That’s all it’s ever been.

You know it happened you just are upset it wasn’t finished. If you types ever take power again you will try once more.

Questioning the reality of an event is not accepting the validity of Nazism. I myself believe in the reality of work camps (my grandma who actually fought Nazis during the war was interned in one) and also in the validity of disgusting acts on humans by Mengele and his ilk (another eyewitness from my town was in the camp and confirmed this) and the validity of war crimes done by germans but that doesn't mean that I will accept each and every thing written about these events. Especially when people use these as propaganda to do the same. There should be no love for nazism but the eugenics movements on the "other side" were as deplorable and continue to plague the modern world.

 

[Arjibarjoe]

Wasn’t there a study done where if someone brings up the nazis or accuses someone of being a nazi the argument is over and they’ve lost the round????

its like saying “your mum“ if you haven’t got anything intelligent or witty to come back with.

 

[AspiringSoul]

for the record Cleopatara was a greek women from the ptolemy dynasty. so of course she was portrayed by white women.

Africa is diverse. look at what sudanese people look like and compare them to south sudanese which is the tropical and hotter part (being closer to the equator).
i believe the real egyptians were similar to sudanese people.

look at this image

they're both black, but clearly a different shade.
my issue is when black people in the US try to claim whatever ancestry, i think most african americans originated from WEST africa', why are they claiming the history of N/E africa? makes no sense. it's like people from Afghanistan, pakistan, south india, bengal....huge difference between them. Afgghanistan has tajiks, uzbes, pathans, hazara races. pakistan is even more diverse, india even moreso. bengalis canlook like orientals or like tamil/south indian black. they all have their own stories and dont even mix together. likewise africa is the same. sudan and south sudan are very different physically. imagine someone from s.sudan getting happy thinking he has some connection with egpt?

 

[free2018]

for the record Cleopatara was a greek women from the ptolemy dynasty. so of course she was portrayed by white women.

Africa is diverse. look at what sudanese people look like and compare them to south sudanese which is the tropical and hotter part (being closer to the equator).
i believe the real egyptians were similar to sudanese people.

look at this image

they're both black, but clearly a different shade.
my issue is when black people in the US try to claim whatever ancestry, i think most african americans originated from WEST africa', why are they claiming the history of N/E africa? makes no sense. it's like people from Afghanistan, pakistan, south india, bengal....huge difference between them. Afgghanistan has tajiks, uzbes, pathans, hazara races. pakistan is even more diverse, india even moreso. bengalis canlook like orientals or like tamil/south indian black. they all have their own stories and dont even mix together. likewise africa is the same. sudan and south sudan are very different physically. imagine someone from s.sudan getting happy thinking he has some connection with egpt?

So called Black Americans are not from Africa at all. They are from the Americas.

 

[AspiringSoul]

So called Black Americans are not from Africa at all. They are from the Americas.

im only posting here ultimately so i can post this and get the fuck out of here

 

[amaranthine]

Except the explicit purpose of “revisionism” is just a ploy to soften the image of nazism and act a recruitment tool to that sick and twisted world view.

LS espouses casual and collective anti semitism, is constantly spouting borderline “race science”.

All of his views are in line with that of a neo Nazi white supremacist that you deny it or don’t see it is a you problem.

All of the “revisionist evidences” has been cleanly and throughly debunked.

It happened there was deliberate plan to exterminate Jews, Roma, Gays, and communists in Europe under the Nazi regime. It very nearly was seen to completion.

Deniers pose an immediate cognitive dissonance. You ask people on one hand to believe it didn’t happen while on the other wishing that it did.

Press a denier hard enough and they’ll admit they know it and they are only disappointed it was not finished.

This site is and always has been a front for far right ideologies, all the celebrities and gossip of the main site is just a lure a dangerous one at that because as we often see this type of rhetoric leads to real world violence.

VC is a stochastic terrorist and all his little minions that cheer him on are culpable.

Disagree with your assumptions. Have known plenty of people who doubt the veracity of holocaust who are as far as possible from nazi ideals. What you are calling for is a witch hunt. Agree that there are some far right ideologues on this forum including christian and muslim extremists. I say extremists because they actually are. I've been reporting some who condone p***philia etc etc. Can't get more extremist than that.
Though there are some off the top of my mind who do wish for an extermination of jews... But Aspiring Soul for example - I have never read him calling for that.

 

[free2018]

im only posting here ultimately so i can post this and get the fuck out of here

I hear you.
I stand by my original statement.
American Blacks native to Americas.

 

[Amberlin]

im only posting here ultimately so i can post this and get the fuck out of here

Aren't you Muslim?

 

[Amberlin]

Black is a skin color and not a people. Depicting people to look like you isn't trying to hide anything. Did you notice how many times Jesus's skin color is mentioned in the bible? NONE! Because it does not matter! Egyptians depicted skin of all colors including black. No one is hiding that.

"Black people" in the west mostly descend from enslaved west Africans. Unfortunately, that is real history. Africans were sold or kidnapped and treated like animals. There is no conspiracy to keep "black people" from knowing they are the real Jews or the real Egyptians or the true whomever. There isn't any big secret or some amazing discovery waiting to be uncovered.

It is painful not to know where you are from, your culture, families traditions, beliefs, heroes & legends of your people. "Black people" do not need to be the real/secret "______" to have value.

This is where "black people" come from.

"Of those Africans who arrived in the United States, nearly half came from two regions: Senegambia, the area comprising the Senegal and Gambia Rivers and the land between them, or today’s Senegal, Gambia, Guinea-Bissau and Mali; and west-central Africa, including what is now Angola, Congo, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Gabon. The Gambia River, running from the Atlantic into Africa, was a key waterway for the slave trade; at its height, about one out of every six West African enslaved people came from this area. "​

Source​

This is Africa.

Noses range from thin to wide to small to big across the world.

Pictures were defaced because it caused them to lose their "power".

As he explained, ancient Egyptians attributed considerable importance to images of the human form, essentially believing that a deity’s essence might inhabit its material likeness, or that a part of a dead person’s soul could dwell in a statue ascribed to it. Therefore, Bleiberg postulated, by damaging a statue the perpetrator would seek to “deactivate an image’s strength” rather than simply revel in an act of vandalism.​

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"The damaged part of the body is no longer able to do its job", he said, noting that, for example, breaking off a statue’s nose effectively "kills" a statue as it wouldn’t be able to breathe, while a likeness of a god won’t be able to hear a prayer if its ears get destroyed.​

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He also pointed out that these acts of iconoclasm weren’t caused by some vandals "recklessly and randomly striking out works of art", but were carried out instead by labourers hired for the job. Source​

Jesus Christ's skin complexion was never mentioned yet it can be assumed to be darker due to the manual labor he used to do and fitting into Egyptian society as a child during his time. Yet then again it isn't important because that's not what saves someone's soul and much rather he created our different skin complexions. But one would be a fool to assume skin color does not matter in this day and age, especially when it might be a contributing factor to ones success in countries such as India.

Now onto your argument, Black people in America don't all come from West Africa, their DNA ranges from differrent cultural groups such as native americans(red Indians) to which they have genetic features from, haiti, the carribean and so on, not just Nigeria...or west africa. In South Africa they aren't even considered black, moreso coloured since they have different genetic variations unlike actual black people.

The researcher you quoted has his basis on assumption, I need proof, actual tangible proof of his claims. And after studying how Egyptian society worked, laborers cutting down noses would've been considered blasphemy to their gods, since pharaohs were considered gods. Thus it would make his claim false, not only that but there is no manuscript of that whatsoever. Oddly enough it was countries who invaded Egypt who contrubited to this.You should search up on Cheik Anta Diop who was a French sociologist, physicist , politician and historian. He did multiple research on Egyptians dna, and documented pictures in his books.

 

[Amberlin]

White elites, mostly the men to be precise. They're hiding the true identity of whoever's apart of the black diaspora. If I get into this, I'll be labeled as racist even though I'm merely teaching history. To put it in simple terms:

Earth = Africa populated first, which many of them then go on to travel all over the world. Black people are indigenous to every continent on earth. Those fair skinned straight hair Natives you normally see when discussing the origins of America are not what the true Natives looked like. Example: That's why the "dark ages" are referred to as "DARK" because at some point, Black people ruled in Europe. You can literally look that up. They're called the Moors, and they taught Europeans basic human necessities such as bathing, cooking, etc.

Africa = Black people are the original people

Other races = Mutations (please do not declare I'm racist for this, this is a known fact and it's not my fault this happened. Blame Adam and Eve for disobeying God. The fall is what caused mutations of all kinds to appear)

White people origins = Caucasus Mountains, that's why they're referred to as "Caucasian"

All of this is recorded in the Bible. Meanwhile, History and Science has their proof in other forms of discovery.

Sun = Recognizes Black people as natural; part of nature.

Nothing is "off the mark" at all.

I never knew about the moors, quite interesting

 

[Amberlin]

In Upper Egypt you would've found people with Nubian complexions, like Ethiopians. But in Lower Egypt, the northern part of Egypt, the complexion was generally paler. If you want a comparison, look at the Copts of today. They are most likely the most authentic reference of what people in Lower Egypt used to look like.

I understand why BHI and similar theories are getting traction, mostly rooted in American blacks searching for a meaningful identity, but they're being guided by a rabid europhobia and white guilt. It would be nice if people could analyze history from an objective, non-racialized perspective without political biases.

Copts aren't an accurate representation, I thought this was common knowledge seeing as Egypt was consistently colonized by different ethnic groups and countries that the only accuracy would be in the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics.

 

[Arjibarjoe]

What does everyone think about the structure of Afro hair , it’s coils and it’s connection with electricity?

you could also ask why so many black characters are portraied with electric super powers for some reason.
many testimonies of people reporting that the pyramids giving of electrical charge although they don’t know why and takes of people being inside them feeling static electricity .

I may seem like a loon but I dunno all things should be studied and it’s no surprise to any one the way a Afro curl operates in slcertain scientific conditions it’s been studied a lot.

mine thing that stood out to me was a studydone I’ll try to find the link Isaw it like 12 years ago whereAfro hair used energy and retains it in its coils for what reason I don’t know I can’t remember what the conclusions were.

i dot. Know how any of this connects with egypt I just had a strong urge to start thinking about it this morning after reading some scripture and my mind going to many different things.

sorry to add, the hair under a microscope is like that of a battery coil.

just an interesting rabbit hole to go down tbh.

 

[amaranthine]

Jesus Christ's skin complexion was never mentioned yet it can be assumed to be darker due to the manual labor he used to do and fitting into Egyptian society as a child during his time. Yet then again it isn't important because that's not what saves someone's soul and much rather he created our different skin complexions. But one would be a fool to assume skin color does not matter in this day and age, especially when it might be a contributing factor to ones success in countries such as India.

Now onto your argument, Black people in America don't all come from West Africa, their DNA ranges from differrent cultural groups such as native americans(red Indians) to which they have genetic features from, haiti, the carribean and so on, not just Nigeria...or west africa. In South Africa they aren't even considered black, moreso coloured since they have different genetic variations unlike actual black people.

The researcher you quoted has his basis on assumption, I need proof, actual tangible proof of his claims. And after studying how Egyptian society worked, laborers cutting down noses would've been considered blasphemy to their gods, since pharaohs were considered gods. Thus it would make his claim false, not only that but there is no manuscript of that whatsoever. Oddly enough it was countries who invaded Egypt who contrubited to this.You should search up on Cheik Anta Diop who was a French sociologist, physicist , politician and historian. He did multiple research on Egyptians dna, and documented pictures in his books.

Black people from West Africa via slave trade to Haiti to North America, how is the origin not Africa? As for moors, Oceanic is completely wrong.
I don't get it though. There is a richness to a lot of black people's cultures from Africa. Why is that never talked about.
Why the need by some (not talking about you) to appropriate moorish and other cultures...Who has the most advanced technology is not the only standard by which you can judge the value of a culture. I'd much rather live in one of those cozy looking huts that Sibi posted than in a sterile "smart" house.

 

[amaranthine]

If Africa is the cradle of life, and I only say if, because I do not know enough about any other theories
then yes we all have common ancestors from there and yes we all originated from there.
It's dazzling, seriously.


Since we are talking ultimately about credit and where it's due.

FOR THE RECORD:

I would just like to point out that Mexicans were the first modern bi-racial people in the "New World".

Mexican was considered a race on the US Census up until 1930
when it was demanded to be removed by stupid shit protesters.

Well sure but we were discussing specific cultures, namely moorish and ancient egyptian and for those we don't need to go that far back.

 

[free2018]

The Dark brown Aborigines of North America are only connected to the so called red Indians by proximity and different business relationships.

Most of the American Aborigines would be called “ Black” today. It’s the biggest lie of American history amongst a million other lies they teach in Rockefeller funded schools daily.

As for Yeshua, he would appear like a so-called Black man. It should not affect people’s relationship with his Father.

 

[Oceanic]

What does everyone think about the structure of Afro hair , it’s coils and it’s connection with electricity?

you could also ask why so many black characters are portraied with electric super powers for some reason.
many testimonies of people reporting that the pyramids giving of electrical charge although they don’t know why and takes of people being inside them feeling static electricity .

I may seem like a loon but I dunno all things should be studied and it’s no surprise to any one the way a Afro curl operates in slcertain scientific conditions it’s been studied a lot.

mine thing that stood out to me was a studydone I’ll try to find the link Isaw it like 12 years ago whereAfro hair used energy and retains it in its coils for what reason I don’t know I can’t remember what the conclusions were.

i dot. Know how any of this connects with egypt I just had a strong urge to start thinking about it this morning after reading some scripture and my mind going to many different things.

sorry to add, the hair under a microscope is like that of a battery coil.

just an interesting rabbit hole to go down tbh.

God purposely made Black people have hair with the likeness of nature considering they were the first people created. And there's a saying, "our hair grows up towards the SUN" So...electricity? There is a definite correlation, since they're already associated with the sun. They also call them "children of the sun" because black people absorb the sunlight much like black itself absorbs light. That wasn't a coincidence.

Afro curls have earthly patterns. I'm currently studying about it, and I'll go more in-depth about it later.

So there you have it. History, science, and the Bible all simultaneously agree that Black people (and their hair according to this specific topic) is natural, original, earthly, all of the above.

 

[Oceanic]

The Dark brown Aborigines of North America are only connected to the so called red Indians by proximity and different business relationships.

Most of the American Aborigines would be called “ Black” today. It’s the biggest lie of American history amongst a million other lies they teach in Rockefeller funded schools daily.

As for Yeshua, he would appear like a so-called Black man. It should not affect people’s relationship with his Father.

The day he returns, a certain demographic of people are going to be pissed off that he isn't white when they see him.

I mean. The whole thing with everyone being white in the Bible. First of all, a heaven where God is white doesn't sound so safe OR good, because of what white people have done here. On earth. So that logic alone can disprove that he's white.

The ones that'll be badly affected are the ones who continue to be in denial about, not only his appearance, but who his actual children are.

 

[free2018]

The day he returns, a certain demographic of people are going to be pissed off that he isn't white when they see him.

I mean. The whole thing with everyone being white in the Bible. First of all, a heaven where God is white doesn't sound so safe OR good, because of what white people have done here. On earth. So that logic alone can disprove that he's white.

The ones that'll be badly affected are the ones who continue to be in denial about, not only his appearance, but who his actual children are.

Most people are headed for the lake of fire. They took the mark of the beast already freely.

The rest of it I don’t worry about anymore. I’m more interested in recent history and recent lies.

The Creator is not a man. If he were, no flesh would be saved.

 

[amaranthine]

Because it's always about white and black, and you
guys always argue about the same shit it is so annoying
black people and white people are always the ones fighting about race shit.

It's annoying as fuck.
MEXICANS are screwed left and right
and they seriously keep their head up.
Never white enough, never black enough.

And there I said it.

I mean I get your frustration but I couldn't care less if someone was black or white but I do care about people trying to pass stupid lies as truth (stuff about moors).

 

[amaranthine]

The day he returns, a certain demographic of people are going to be pissed off that he isn't white when they see him.

I mean. The whole thing with everyone being white in the Bible. First of all, a heaven where God is white doesn't sound so safe OR good, because of what white people have done here. On earth. So that logic alone can disprove that he's white.

The ones that'll be badly affected are the ones who continue to be in denial about, not only his appearance, but who his actual children are.

Who are his actual children?