Ancient Egyptians are Black

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It could be true that his infatuation was that ,but the Bible even calls Egypt the land of Ham as well

I wonder how Jews used to look like though, since both Abraham and Sarah came from Shem, which is said to be the generation of Arabs yet also simultaneously Ishmael is named the one whom Arabs descended from.
They were Black. The "Middle East" didn't use to exist back then. Everyone was of a dark skin tone.

Job 30:30 "My skin is Black upon me and my bones are burned with heat" for example.

Not to mention, Adam was made from dirt. We know what color dirt is. I'm surprised everyone fell for the whitewashed images. That's control for you.

And then Eve came from him.

Definition of Black Woman:

Blak-womb-man; mother of the earth.

So uh, we have our conclusion. This is still a hard pill to swallow for certain people.
 

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It makes sense,

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Looking at that map we see the kingdom of Sheba was established in southern Arabia.
In the Bible, the Song of Solomon is said to be a conversation between Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. I think this verse might be the clue we're looking for :

"I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, As the tents of Kedar, As the curtains of Solomon. Look not upon me, because I am black, Because the sun hath looked upon me"
Song of Solomon 1:5‭-‬6
Sure there are many references in the Bible that imply its African connections; Solomon being anointed at the river Gihon, Moses' Ethiopian wife, etc. But we should be careful of these idealized "maps" as you called them which are mostly fictitious, or guesses at best. If you read Marniche's blog post she explains that these groups the Europeans identified as Cushitic, Hamite, Semitic, etc. were very much the same tribes. European anthropologists invented ethnic categories, based on the Bible and Talmud, which clouded an honest study of the history of the region.

A more scientific understanding of the ancient and modern peoples of North Africa is found by looking at the Afroasiatic language group, which Semitic is but one:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroasiatic_languages
 

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They don't want everyone knowing that the earth began with Africa. You know, most of the world have animosity for Black folks.

And that is why THEY whitewash everything. The Bible, History, literally everything. There's even a biblical verse that says:

1 Maccabees 3:48-58

"And they laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images"


And that is why all ancient paintings we see
are normally of anyone who isn't Black. It's always European. But I've been seeing people finding ancient paintings of Black people a whole lot lately, especially from France. France stole a lot of art from Africa, specifically Haiti so there's that. Of course they'd hide it. They really need to give them back.
The Elite erase history completely. They erased American history and made up a bunch of nonsense stories we fight over.


The Earth did not begin with Africa, unless you believe the Satanic monkey evolution fable.



If you consider the Middle East as part of Africa, then I'll give it to you.



Human beings? Yes at some point we all had the same pigmentation. That's just how we were originally designed.
 

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I wonder how Jews used to look like though, since both Abraham and Sarah came from Shem, which is said to be the generation of Arabs yet also simultaneously Ishmael is named the one whom Arabs descended from.
Just my guess, but i imagine the Jews (Israelites, "jew" coming from Judah) of Biblical times looked like middle eastern people, not the blue eyed ashkenazi Jews, which are what many people these days imagine a "Jew" looks like.

Im general semitic (from Shem) people were middle eastern, though i have heard that some teach that certain groups of semitic people migrated further east and are the ancestors of today's Asian people (and Native Americans).

Ishmael's mother was Hagar the Egyptian, and when he was grown his mother found him a wife from her people so he was half black and half semitic and his descendants would be a darker skinned group of "arab" people.

Just my thpughts from studying book of Genesis...
 

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I don't understand this topic. Isn't it widely aknowledged by archeologists that in late Egypt royalty from Kush and Egypt intermarried and so we even have a period of black pharaohs in southern Egypt where the kushites created some truly marvelous architecture and imagery depicting black pharaohs? But to say that egyptians were all black from the beginning is simply false. Compare kushite with more ancient imagery. Egyptians never hid skin color in their art.
 
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I don't understand this topic. Isn't it widely aknowledged by archeologists that in late Egypt royalty from Kush and Egypt intermarried and so we even have a period of black pharaohs in southern Egypt where the kushites created some truly marvelous architecture and imagery depicting black pharaohs? But to say that egyptians were all black from the beginning is simply false. Compare kushite with more ancient imagery. Egyptians never hid skin color in their art.
If all Egyptians weren't of dark skin tone once upon a time, then why are THEY trying so hard to hide statues, paintings, and other art works from the world? Why have they whitewashed everything? There will be a day they address all of that and it's not going to be pretty for them.

We live in a time where we are now raising the rug revealing everything that has been swept under. There are various reports of people SUDDENLY finding hidden arts and crafts that originated in Africa. People have even found the same pictures painted by white people except the people in those pictures are black which means white people took it, and just as Maccabees says, painted the likeness of THEIR image and told the world that was the truth when it really wasn't.

Aside from that, it is a known fact that a certain demographic of people can't stay in the sun. And Egypt is a very hot place with a lot of architecture that hard work was put into. There is only one race of people that could've accomplished all of that and let me tell you, it isn't anyone without a lot of melanin. Scientific AND historical fact. Is this really difficult to comprehend.
 
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If all Egyptians weren't of dark skin tone once upon a time, then why are THEY trying so hard to hide statues, paintings, and other art works from the world? Why have they whitewashed everything? There will be a day they address all of that and it's not going to be pretty for them.

We live in a time where we are now raising the rug revealing everything that has been swept under. There are various reports of people SUDDENLY finding hidden arts and crafts that originated in Africa. People have even found the same pictures painted by white people except the people in those pictures are black which means white people took it, and just as Maccabees says, painted the likeness of THEIR image and told the world that was the truth when it really wasn't.

Aside from that, it is a known fact that a certain demographic of people can't stay in the sun. And Egypt is a very hot place with a lot of architecture that hard work was put into. There is only one race of people that could've accomplished all of that and let me tell you, it isn't anyone without a lot of melanin. Scientific AND historical fact. Is this really difficult to comprehend.
Who is hiding what?
I find all of your reasoning to be off the mark and I will leave it at that.
 

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Black is a skin color and not a people. Depicting people to look like you isn't trying to hide anything. Did you notice how many times Jesus's skin color is mentioned in the bible? NONE! Because it does not matter! Egyptians depicted skin of all colors including black. No one is hiding that.

"Black people" in the west mostly descend from enslaved west Africans. Unfortunately, that is real history. Africans were sold or kidnapped and treated like animals. There is no conspiracy to keep "black people" from knowing they are the real Jews or the real Egyptians or the true whomever. There isn't any big secret or some amazing discovery waiting to be uncovered.

It is painful not to know where you are from, your culture, families traditions, beliefs, heroes & legends of your people. "Black people" do not need to be the real/secret "______" to have value.

This is where "black people" come from.


"Of those Africans who arrived in the United States, nearly half came from two regions: Senegambia, the area comprising the Senegal and Gambia Rivers and the land between them, or today’s Senegal, Gambia, Guinea-Bissau and Mali; and west-central Africa, including what is now Angola, Congo, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Gabon. The Gambia River, running from the Atlantic into Africa, was a key waterway for the slave trade; at its height, about one out of every six West African enslaved people came from this area. "​



This is Africa.





Noses range from thin to wide to small to big across the world.



Pictures were defaced because it caused them to lose their "power".


As he explained, ancient Egyptians attributed considerable importance to images of the human form, essentially believing that a deity’s essence might inhabit its material likeness, or that a part of a dead person’s soul could dwell in a statue ascribed to it. Therefore, Bleiberg postulated, by damaging a statue the perpetrator would seek to “deactivate an image’s strength” rather than simply revel in an act of vandalism.​
"The damaged part of the body is no longer able to do its job", he said, noting that, for example, breaking off a statue’s nose effectively "kills" a statue as it wouldn’t be able to breathe, while a likeness of a god won’t be able to hear a prayer if its ears get destroyed.​
He also pointed out that these acts of iconoclasm weren’t caused by some vandals "recklessly and randomly striking out works of art", but were carried out instead by labourers hired for the job. Source
 

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What a clickbaity title but either way, this is an interesting topic which came about on my youtube feed and now I have been hooked on discovering the truth. And before we continue...no...I don't believe Cleopatra was black, my focus is not on the Ptolemic dynasty which was of Greek and Egyptian.

Personally, I used to think Egyptians were their own race before, not white or Arabic(doesn't make sense and lack of evidence....literally you can't convince me otherwise) and that the current day Egyptians weren't a clear depiction of the original Ancient Egyptians as they have been mixed for centuries due to constant invasions from Rome, Greece, Arabs, Nubians, Lybians, Assyrians, Persians and so on. Not only that but people who tend to be descendents from a certain group of people tend to keep that tradition which most modern day Egyptians don't as they are 85%-95% Muslim. The current Egyptians are Arabic. Likewise if you look at current day America and say it is a correct portrayel of how the original indigenous Indians appeared, you would look mad and be incorrect despite sharing a certain percentage of dna with them.

I also believed Egypt was not in Africa....till I actually googled it(year's ago when I was reading the Bible and found it on the back map)and found out Africa is made up of different Arabic countries as well.

Even so I thought the usual as well, that black people moreso AA's wanted to cling to Egypt being black simply because it was one of the greatest civilizations on earth and that they wanted to feel a belonging. But after doing some research...they were right. Since the evidence is ridiculous at this point.


Now here is a playlist of videos which do analysis on these aspects.




However despite such evidence, modern day movies still portray Egyptians as appearing Eurocentric while slaves are portrayed mostly as black( like Elizabeth Taylors movie, Cleopatra). Now convince me otherwise if you can...since so far the videos I've found debating Egyptians not w being black were outright ignorant. Not only that but the descriptions of how the Greek viewed them, is nothing like how they are viewed today.
The white race is only7000 years old. The whole planet was all black before then and Kemet were black until the white population arrived.

I don't know why people act like this is not reality. White learned to cook and clean from Moors who were black.
They learned math from Kemet

The earth is made for the sun and the black skin is made for the sun.

White people had to protect their skin by invent clothes to cover themselves up.
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How European evolved white skin
 

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Black is a skin color and not a people. Depicting people to look like you isn't trying to hide anything. Did you notice how many times Jesus's skin color is mentioned in the bible? NONE! Because it does not matter! Egyptians depicted skin of all colors including black. No one is hiding that.

"Black people" in the west mostly descend from enslaved west Africans. Unfortunately, that is real history. Africans were sold or kidnapped and treated like animals. There is no conspiracy to keep "black people" from knowing they are the real Jews or the real Egyptians or the true whomever. There isn't any big secret or some amazing discovery waiting to be uncovered.

It is painful not to know where you are from, your culture, families traditions, beliefs, heroes & legends of your people. "Black people" do not need to be the real/secret "______" to have value.

This is where "black people" come from.


"Of those Africans who arrived in the United States, nearly half came from two regions: Senegambia, the area comprising the Senegal and Gambia Rivers and the land between them, or today’s Senegal, Gambia, Guinea-Bissau and Mali; and west-central Africa, including what is now Angola, Congo, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Gabon. The Gambia River, running from the Atlantic into Africa, was a key waterway for the slave trade; at its height, about one out of every six West African enslaved people came from this area. "​



This is Africa.





Noses range from thin to wide to small to big across the world.



Pictures were defaced because it caused them to lose their "power".


As he explained, ancient Egyptians attributed considerable importance to images of the human form, essentially believing that a deity’s essence might inhabit its material likeness, or that a part of a dead person’s soul could dwell in a statue ascribed to it. Therefore, Bleiberg postulated, by damaging a statue the perpetrator would seek to “deactivate an image’s strength” rather than simply revel in an act of vandalism.​
"The damaged part of the body is no longer able to do its job", he said, noting that, for example, breaking off a statue’s nose effectively "kills" a statue as it wouldn’t be able to breathe, while a likeness of a god won’t be able to hear a prayer if its ears get destroyed.​
He also pointed out that these acts of iconoclasm weren’t caused by some vandals "recklessly and randomly striking out works of art", but were carried out instead by labourers hired for the job. Source
"Blacks" in the US were already here before Columbus. They are native to America. They are native to all fifty states.
 

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The Afar/Cush people still maintain grooming traditions that resemble those seen in ancient Egyptian art. They’re also classified as one of the oldest genetic groups in Africa.

I think they bear the closest resemblance to the faces in the art we’ve come to associate with ancient Egypt.
 

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Evidence please
There are some links to start off...

The out of Africa story is a lie. 100 hundred percent fable.

Very few so-called Blacks were brought to the US:

The indigenous groups in the Americas period were two groups of people (supposedly): "so-called red people" and "so-called Black people."

This is the Olmec civilization of Mexico:

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A lot of the slavery story was phony as well-- 99 percent of it.



Books to start off from:

"Black Indians" by Katz.


Links:









 

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They were Black. The "Middle East" didn't use to exist back then. Everyone was of a dark skin tone.

Job 30:30 "My skin is Black upon me and my bones are burned with heat" for example.

Not to mention, Adam was made from dirt. We know what color dirt is. I'm surprised everyone fell for the whitewashed images. That's control for you.

And then Eve came from him.

Definition of Black Woman:

Blak-womb-man; mother of the earth.

So uh, we have our conclusion. This is still a hard pill to swallow for certain people.
True,but the different races came from Ham, Shem and Japeth. To which Abraham was a descendent of Shem. That's why I am quite confused since Abraham was a Jew, not an Arab.

Interesting.
 

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The Earth did not begin with Africa, unless you believe the Satanic monkey evolution fable.
I believe in a different evolution, not the "we came from monkeys" but that we were all initially one race at some point in time. And the only conclusion I could land upon was black since it's the only race which can produce children which can look phenotypically different then themselves in rare cases.

And even with that, climate influences everything, when the language barrier was created I believe, people separated into different tribes, moving into different parts of the world and once they settled there, their features had to adapt to the area then they changed. Apparently it takes 1200 year's for a human evolution.
 

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Just my guess, but i imagine the Jews (Israelites, "jew" coming from Judah) of Biblical times looked like middle eastern people, not the blue eyed ashkenazi Jews, which are what many people these days imagine a "Jew" looks like.

Im general semitic (from Shem) people were middle eastern, though i have heard that some teach that certain groups of semitic people migrated further east and are the ancestors of today's Asian people (and Native Americans).

Ishmael's mother was Hagar the Egyptian, and when he was grown his mother found him a wife from her people so he was half black and half semitic and his descendants would be a darker skinned group of "arab" people.

Just my thpughts from studying book of Genesis...
This would actually make a lot of sense, in terms of Indians(they kind of look arab to me..just really dark). But also, if they kept on their tradition of marrying Egyptians then wouldn't they all still have the same features eventually, like black Americans for example. Their mixed with African, Native American and European ancestry typically yet they still married each other and have similar features to Nigerians.
 
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