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I have been thinking on how to reply to your post in a sensitive and diplomatic manner. I could not think of anything so my response to your post is simply this: "Are you delusional"?

Rise up against GOD and HIS people ???? Good luck with that o_O
It is sarcasm. But that's what they do when they persecute the Jews and Christians.
They rise up against God and His people.
 

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The trinity doctrine is a Catholic teaching and is wrong.
It is not taught by Christ.

It is true that most institutionalized Christendom have dogmas that are not exactly Scriptural.

But the Trinity is Biblical... Three Persons that make up One God.
Even in the beginning in Genesis God is called "Elohim" which is plural for El or God.
 

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Grandma toxic is back, beware. She is stirring her pot of dysfunctional hatred and we wish she would crawl back to her retirement:
If you can not be a Christlike voice for peace and help to the weak and oppressed then why are you here? What kind of Anti-Christian are you?
When you call me grandma, is it because you think I have grandchildren, or because you think I’m old? If I were old like you think...then does that mean that I’m too old too be right? Haha
 

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They are is in perfect harmony, because both the Bible and Koran are from the same Source (God).

All of the problems have arisen because of wrongful interpretation and willful interference by people within organised religion who all work for Satan (either knowingly, or unknowingly in most cases).

Both the Bible and Koran are Guides that have been sent down to mankind, by God. Why then would they not be in perfect harmony, once correctly interpreted? (As in fact, they are).

The hardest thing for Christians (I'm presuming that you are a Christian) that they will need to come to terms with and accept, is the fact that Christianity (as it is known today) and the interpretation of Scripture as done and is taught by the churches, is not in harmony at all with either Christ's Teaching and the Holy Bible, or with what Mohammed (pbuh) was told by God (The Holy Koran).

Jesus taught exactly the same as what Mohammed (pbuh) was told, by God.
Ah, yes the wrong interpretation business...I think that the actual truth here is that they are incompatible because one book is from God and the other is not. The one that is not has put Jesus as a second rate prophet instead of the magnificent God that He is. The error has to do with the prophet of islam.
 

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When you call me grandma, is it because you think I have grandchildren, or because you think I’m old? If I were old like you think...then does that mean that I’m too old too be right? Haha
Hey Lisa I was upset yesterday about what you said about our beloved Prophet.
I dislike hate speech but am okay with legitimate though misguided criticism.
I am not sorry that I called you grandma it is an honor where we are from.
Even if you do not have grand kids:)
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The trinity doctrine is a Catholic teaching and is wrong.
It is not taught by Christ.

John
14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come [again] unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God.

20:30 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have Life through his name.

Sura
43:57. When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example, behold, thy people raise a clamour thereat (in ridicule)!
43:58. And they say, "Are our gods best, or he?" This they set forth to thee, only by way of disputation: yea, they are a contentious people.
43:59. He was no more than a servant ("I came not to do mine own will, but the Will of Him that sent me" - John 6:38): We granted Our favour (Christ) to him (Sura 4:171), and We made him the Example to the Children of Israel (John 14:6).
43:60. And if it were Our Will, We could make angels from amongst you, succeeding each other on the Earth.
43:61. And (Christ the Mahdi) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is The Straight Way.

There you have it. Perfect harmony.
(Scripture quoted from the King of kings' Bible.)
Lol! You’re “scriptures” don’t say what the Bible says...no harmony there.

Well, I do agree that catholocism isn’t Christianity, but yes, the trinity is taught in the Bible. Jesus said that He would send the Helper, the Holy Spirit when He was gone..
 

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Hey Lisa I was upset yesterday about what you said about our beloved Prophet.
I dislike hate speech but am okay with legitimate though misguided criticism.
I am not sorry that I called you grandma it is an honor where we are from.
Even if you do not have grand kids:)
Here is an article that might help you:
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So calling me grandma toxic is an honor? Ok.....

Why would that help me?
 

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I don’t think that it is true that their friends list gets shorter. Most of the the countries that reject Israel are Muslim majority countries. They do this because of religious reasons.

Then, there are some of us that don’t believe Zionism is honest in the same way you describe Islam because they are two sides of the same coin.

Then there is another group that recognizes that Muslims will become violent over Israel and oppose Israel for the sake of preventing war.

So people don’t hate the Jews. There are many secular countries throughout the world who really don’t care about the religious intricacies between Jews and Muslims over Israel, they just don’t want people fighting over it. To oppose the idea of Jerusalem belonging to Israel is to recognize how volatile the Muslims community is and to not want to light the match that starts a war over nothing that most normal people care about.

I mean it is 2017. People can more freely immigrate wherever they want and global trade is changing the standard of living all over the world. For most people it makes no sense to be willing to go to war over a piece of land in the year 2017. Only for Jews and palistinians.

We are all being suckered into taking sides of a modern religious war and most of us don’t want to be involved. This doesn’t mean anyone hates Israel. Most of the videos protesting are all Muslim majority protests because of religious reasons. Otherwise, in theory none of this matters.

It is sad that the world is being sucked into this nonsense. For both sides, defending their religion appears to be more important than peace. If we believe god brings all things to fulfillment in the end why do the palistinians fight against the Jews over this and vice versa. It makes no sense to any rational person who is not obligated to follow an archaic religious system.
I was thinking of the UN...certainly no friend to Israel and there are a lot of countries in that. Before trump, we weren’t their best friend with Obama....

How is Islam and Zionism on the same coin? I’m not following you here.

I thought muslims were just violent due to their book supporting terror?

Well, it really isn’t nothing, this war over Jerusalem. Granted the average person doesn’t understand it, but Christians do.

Not everyone can move freely over the world though, North Koreans would have a hard time, Cubans too...

Well, I think that rather instead of blaming muslim aggression and terror tactics, people would rather Israel slink away so there isn’t any conflict..kind of send a wrong message I think...

I’ve read that Israel has agreed to numerous peace for land agreements but the muslims turn it down every time, because they want Israel gone and don’t want to share...

It’s not only an archaic religion that has them fighting over this land...some of it is Ishmael/Issac, and its certainly the devil wanting God’s land and doesn’t want His chosen people to have it...lots of reasons...
 

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It is true that most institutionalized Christendom have dogmas that are not exactly Scriptural.
"Not exactly scriptural" is putting it very "diplomatically". Its actually often the exact opposite of Christ's Teaching in Scripture.
But the Trinity is Biblical... Three Persons that make up One God.
No it is not.
Take for instance Matthew 28:19. A key "trinity" verse that often still referred to. However, it has been proven that this was a later insertion done by the church and that the original did not contain the "trinity formula".
Which is then exactly proven later on in the NT for instance in the book of Acts.
Where:
No-one. Not ever. Anywhere... throughout the entire New Testament ever baptized anyone else using the (supposed) "trinity formula" found in Matthew 28:19 and supposedly commanded by Christ.
Not even once.
By not even one of the disciples.
Ever.
(They baptised "in the Name of Jesus" only. This is due to the fact that the "trinity formula" is a later insertion).
Even in the beginning in Genesis God is called "Elohim" which is plural for El or God.
That has nothing to do with the trinity doctrine though.
 

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No grandma is an honor, toxic is how I view you and I am not sorry about calling you that.
A spade is a spade.

Just in case you ever max out your retirement, see I can benefit people I dislike.;)
So you honor me than insult me? Haha, really?

Wow, well, I don’t plan on maxing out my retirement when I get there...lol!
 

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:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

you are so laughable.

ain't nobody is taking you serious because of the massive ignorance you never fail do display.

people like you prove God's existence.

without Him you would be dead already with such overwhelming stupidity.

but well i guess without your likes we wouldn't have all the laughs (at least one thing you are good for - one before nothing).

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

(surrounded by laughter)
You are very overly dramatic
 

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That's a good one that the people world over no longer fall for! This is just in the last week :

Take Action! Palestinian nonviolent leader’s son, Abdul-Khalik Burnat, abducted by Israeli occupation forces
https://israelpalestinenews.org/tak...ik-burnat-abducted-israeli-occupation-forces/
WATCH: Israeli troops beat handcuffed Palestinian in Hebron
https://israelpalestinenews.org/watch-israeli-troops-beat-handcuffed-palestinian-hebron/
Israeli military kills five Palestinians, injures 1,778 since Monday
https://israelpalestinenews.org/israeli-military-kills-five-palestinians-injures-1778-since-monday/
Health Ministry: “Israeli Soldiers Injured 379 Palestinians Wednesday”
http://imemc.org/article/health-ministry-israeli-soldiers-injured-379-palestinians-wednesday/

(Trolls like to distract and divert attention to side or fabricated issues. So get your points in and keep at the message folks. Remember 80/20 rule.)
 

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keep up! I pointed out that grandma is not and insult but call my Prophet peace be upon him names and I will insult you.;)
I did keep up, you honored me than called me toxic, which isn’t really any honor at all..

Why do you feel you must insult people who don’t see your prophet the way you do?
 

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Trolls like to distract and divert attention to side or fabricated issues. So get your points in and keep at the message folks. Remember 80/20 rule.
:eek:
 

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Trolls like to distract and divert attention to side or fabricated issues. So get your points in and keep at the message folks. Remember 80/20 rule.
:eek:
Well, I was just wondering what you mean...does this mean you won’t be answering my above post?
 

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People insult you because the stuff you say is so ridiculous and offensive.
No need to insult people that disagree with you, harms your POV honestly, you guys come across as mean and intolerant..not that it matters much to you, we are just non muslims, eh?
 

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No need to insult people that disagree with you, harms your POV honestly, you guys come across as mean and intolerant..not that it matters much to you, we are just non muslims, eh?
You should read your posts over and see why you receive hostile welcomes on some threads. Try a little empathy, people view things differently to you.
 
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