Jerusalem is the capital of Israel

Lisa

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keep up! I pointed out that grandma is not and insult but call my Prophet peace be upon him names and I will insult you.;)
I’d like to again comment on the insulting nature of the muslims here....You know when you guys start insulting people with such vitriol against people you think have offended you, you are only reinforcing the idea that muslims are terrorist killers. Because if you can get that upset over words, what would stop you from taking a knife, or gettting behind the wheel of a vehicle and running down people who you disagree with? I think of Theo Van Gogh who was knifed down in cold blood in the middle of the day by a muslim who didn’t like what he had to say, and I think of Mr. Van Gogh’s last words “Can’t we just talk about this?”
 

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@Lisa
Once again, don't insult our beloved prophet and you will not be insulted back.;)
You can call us names all you want but remember you have nothing positive to give this forum. I pity you.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48407.htm

Yes, The Neocons Are Back


A new cabinet will mark neocon ascendancy

By Philip Giraldi

December 13, 2017 "Information Clearing House" - Back during the admittedly brief shock and awe period that immediately followed on the Trump electoral victory, it appeared that there might be an actual realignment of American foreign policy. The neoconservatives virtually unanimously had opposed Donald Trump in the most vile terms, both in the GOP primaries and during the actual electoral campaign, making clear that Hillary was their choice for a future full of unrelenting, ideologically driven warfare to convert the world to democracy. By that metric, one would assume that Trump would prefer to be roasted on a spit rather than have neocons on his national security team, and many in the punditry did agree with that analysis and went on to share that view.
 
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Lisa

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@Lisa
Once again, don't insult our beloved prophet and you will not be insulted back.;)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48407.htm

Yes, The Neocons Are Back


A new cabinet will mark neocon ascendancy

By Philip Giraldi

December 13, 2017 "Information Clearing House" - Back during the admittedly brief shock and awe period that immediately followed on the Trump electoral victory, it appeared that there might be an actual realignment of American foreign policy. The neoconservatives virtually unanimously had opposed Donald Trump in the most vile terms, both in the GOP primaries and during the actual electoral campaign, making clear that Hillary was their choice for a future full of unrelenting, ideologically driven warfare to convert the world to democracy. By that metric, one would assume that Trump would prefer to be roasted on a spit rather than have neocons on his national security team, and many in the punditry did agree with that analysis and went on to share that view.
You must have missed my point...too bad
 
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I’d like to again comment on the insulting nature of the muslims here....You know when you guys start insulting people with such vitriol against people you think have offended you, you are only reinforcing the idea that muslims are terrorist killers. Because if you can get that upset over words, what would stop you from taking a knife, or gettting behind the wheel of a vehicle and running down people who you disagree with? I think of Theo Van Gogh who was knifed down in cold blood in the middle of the day by a muslim who didn’t like what he had to say, and I think of Mr. Van Gogh’s last words “Can’t we just talk about this?”
That’s quite the non-sequitur you’re making, Lisa. As well, as the saying goes, “It takes two to tango, but one to play the piano”, and it was you who came back to the forums after a long break.

If you consider yourself a Christian, then perhaps you should actively practice Luke 6:31?
 

Kung Fu

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I’d like to again comment on the insulting nature of the Christians here....You know when you guys start insulting people with such vitriol against people you think have offended you, you are only reinforcing the idea that Christians are baby killers. Because if you can get that upset over words, what would stop you from taking a rocket, or getting behind the "wheel" of a tank and running down people who you disagree with? I think of Muslims who had drones strike them down in cold blood in the middle of the day and night by Christians who don't like how Muslims worship One God and they the Christians worship 3 gods (one being Casper the friendly ghost and the other a man.)
Fixed it for you again sweetheart :)
 

Forever Light

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Well will you explain why God is written in plural in the very first verse in the Bible ?
Genesis
1:1 By periods (headships) God created the heaven and the earth.
(That is the most accurate translation that is currently available, into English.)
From what I've read about it, one explanation comes down to Hebrew working different than English does.
But the point is, when you put all of the scripture together it becomes clear that there is no trinity in Scripture.

Deuteronomy

6:4 Hear, O Israel: The "I AM" our God [is] one "I AM"
Zechariah
14:9 And the "I AM" shall be King over all the earth: in that Day shall there be one "I AM", and His name One [not a trinity].

The following is a study of Genesis that talks quite a bit about the usage of the word Elohim. It's quite long, but seems pretty thorough. I've not read all of it yet, but it explains why the "trinity" idea (which is a catholic doctrine, that did not exist before the catholic church started teaching it) in no way fits the Genesis verses.
http://www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/trinity/verses/Gen1_26.html
 

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OIC Declares East Jerusalem Palestine Capital
https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/oic-declares-east-jerusalem-palestine-capital/


‘Face facts’: Netanyahu lambastes pan-Muslim declaration on East Jerusalem

https://www.rt.com/news/413156-netanyahu-oic-jerusalem-palestine/

Trump, Netanyahu and Mohammad Bin Salman: Destroyers of the Neoliberal World Order
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/12/13/trump-netanyahu-mohammad-bin-salman-destroyers-neoliberal-world-order.html

Turkey reveals plan to open embassy in East Jerusalem
https://www.rt.com/news/413216-turkey-palestinian-east-jerusalem/

IDF ex-commander says army should ‘tear Palestinians apart’ if there is new war
https://www.rt.com/news/413234-tear-palestinians-apart-idf/

Trump Nominee Has History of Suing Colleges Over Israel Boycotts
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/trump-nominee-has-history-of-suing-colleges-over-israel-boycotts/

Israel Uses Palestinian Land for Treatment of Toxic and Other Waste
http://stephenlendman.org/2017/12/israel-uses-palestinian-land-treatment-toxic-waste/

IDF Officials Arrested Over Alleged $28 Million Scam
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201712131059947779-idf-arrested-over-alleged-scam/
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The New York Times Published: September 17, 1914 Copyright © The New York Times

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From left to right: Joseph Seidener, Moses T. Schnirer, Theodor Herzl, David Wolfsohn, Max Bodenheimer
 

Etagloc

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No, I want you to explain how there could be a Palestinian genocide when there are more of them every year.
Your fixation on the rising or falling of their population numbers is creepy. It is reminiscent of eugenics. It just further illustrates that for some reason you have aligned yourself with fascism. The Palestinians are your brothers and sisters. And you should want for them what you want for yourself. You have some aspect of you that still has a soul. You might reject my words on a conscious level but no matter what you do to suppress the awareness, on an unconscious level you know what you are defending is wrong.

How can a persecuted people overcome their adversity?

I've already given the explanation. The explanation is God. Or Allah as he is known in Arabic.
 

Lisa

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That’s quite the non-sequitur you’re making, Lisa. As well, as the saying goes, “It takes two to tango, but one to play the piano”, and it was you who came back to the forums after a long break.

If you consider yourself a Christian, then perhaps you should actively practice Luke 6:31?
What does it matter if I went away and came back? What does that have to do with anything? I still have opinions...

I do treat others how I want to be treated, no matter how many mean, insults I get, I always treat others with respect to their having an opinion and take what they say seriously when I reply to them.
 

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“Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East
The Infamous "Oded Yinon Plan". Introduction by Michel Chossudovsky
https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
The following document pertaining to the formation of “Greater Israel” constitutes the cornerstone of powerful Zionist factions within the current Netanyahu government, the Likud party, as well as within the Israeli military and intelligence establishment. (article first published by Global Research on April 29, 2013).

President Donald Trump has confirmed in no uncertain terms, his support of Israel’s illegal settlements (including his opposition to UN Security Council Resolution 2334, pertaining to the illegality of the Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank).

Moreover, by moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem and allowing for the expansion of Israeli settlements in the occupied territories and beyond, the US president has provided a de facto endorsement of the “Greater Israel” project as formulated under the Yinon Plan.


Bear in mind: this design is not strictly a Zionist Project for the Middle East, it is an integral part of US foreign policy, namely Washington’s intent to fracture and balkanize the Middle East. Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital is intended to trigger political instability throughout the region.

According to the founding father of Zionism Theodore Herzl, “the area of the Jewish State stretches: “From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.” According to Rabbi Fischmann, “The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt up to the Euphrates, it includes parts of Syria and Lebanon.”
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When viewed in the current context, the Zionist Plan for the Middle East bears an intimate relationship to 2003 invasion of Iraq, the 2006 war on Lebanon, the 2011 war on Libya, the ongoing wars on Syria, Iraq and Yemen, not to mention the political crisis in Saudi Arabia.

The “Greater Israel” project consists in weakening and eventually fracturing neighboring Arab states as part of a US-Israeli expansionist project, with the support of NATO and Saudi Arabia. In this regard, the Saudi-Israeli rapprochement is from Netanyahu’s viewpoint a means to expanding Israel’s spheres of influence in the Middle East as well as confronting Iran. Needless to day, the “Greater Israel” project is consistent with America’s imperial design.

“Greater Israel” consists in an area extending from the Nile Valley to the Euphrates. According to Stephen Lendman, “A near-century ago, the World Zionist Organization’s plan for a Jewish state included:

• historic Palestine;

• South Lebanon up to Sidon and the Litani River;

• Syria’s Golan Heights, Hauran Plain and Deraa; and

• control of the Hijaz Railway from Deraa to Amman, Jordan as well as the Gulf of Aqaba.

Some Zionists wanted more – land from the Nile in the West to the Euphrates in the East, comprising Palestine, Lebanon, Western Syria and Southern Turkey.”

The Zionist project supports the Jewish settlement movement. More broadly it involves a policy of excluding Palestinians from Palestine leading to the eventual annexation of both the West Bank and Gaza to the State of Israel.

Greater Israel would create a number of proxy States. It would include parts of Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, the Sinai, as well as parts of Iraq and Saudi Arabia. (See map).
According to Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya in a 2011 Global Research article, The Yinon Plan was a continuation of Britain’s colonial design in the Middle East:

“[The Yinon plan] is an Israeli strategic plan to ensure Israeli regional superiority. It insists and stipulates that Israel must reconfigure its geo-political environment through the balkanization of the surrounding Arab states into smaller and weaker states.

Israeli strategists viewed Iraq as their biggest strategic challenge from an Arab state. This is why Iraq was outlined as the centerpiece to the balkanization of the Middle East and the Arab World. In Iraq, on the basis of the concepts of the Yinon Plan, Israeli strategists have called for the division of Iraq into a Kurdish state and two Arab states, one for Shiite Muslims and the other for Sunni Muslims. The first step towards establishing this was a war between Iraq and Iran, which the Yinon Plan discusses.

The Atlantic, in 2008, and the U.S. military’s Armed Forces Journal, in 2006, both published widely circulated maps that closely followed the outline of the Yinon Plan. Aside from a divided Iraq, which the Biden Plan also calls for, the Yinon Plan calls for a divided Lebanon, Egypt, and Syria. The partitioning of Iran, Turkey, Somalia, and Pakistan also all fall into line with these views. The Yinon Plan also calls for dissolution in North Africa and forecasts it as starting from Egypt and then spilling over into Sudan, Libya, and the rest of the region.

Greater Israel” requires the breaking up of the existing Arab states into small states.

“The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state. Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel’s satellites and, ironically, its source of moral legitimation… This is not a new idea, nor does it surface for the first time in Zionist strategic thinking. Indeed, fragmenting all Arab states into smaller units has been a recurrent theme.” (Yinon Plan, see below)

Viewed in this context, the war on Syria and Iraq is part of the process of Israeli territorial expansion.

In this regard, the defeat of US sponsored terrorists (ISIS, Al Nusra) by Syrian Forces with the support of Russia, Iran and Hizbollah constitute a significant setback for Israel.

Michel Chossudovsky, Global Research, September 06, 2015, updated December 8, 2017

The Zionist Plan for the Middle East
Translated and edited by Israel Shahak

https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

 

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From Barak to Trump: Arrogance, ignorance and phony “peace” plans
http://www.redressonline.com/2017/12/from-barak-to-trump-arrogance-ignorance-and-phony-peace-plans/

‘Netanyahu is calling shots as US beats drums of war vs Iran' – CIA veteran
https://www.rt.com/usa/413273-iran-haley-orders-israel/

Sacred Christian Site in Jerusalem Vows to Refuse Entry to Mike Pence
http://theantimedia.org/sacred-christian-site-jerusalem-mike-pence/

China backs State of Palestine with East al-Quds as capital
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/12/15/545682/China-Palestine-sovereign-state-East-Jerusalem-alQuds-capital-Trump

Four Palestinians Killed, Hundreds Injured on Friday
http://stephenlendman.org/2017/12/four-palestinians-killed-hundreds-injured-friday/

Israel’s highest court rules it illegal for IDF to hold bodies of killed Palestinians
https://www.rt.com/news/413276-court-rules-israel-holds-palestinian-bodies-illegal/

Israeli infiltrators launch surprise attack on Palestinian rally (VIDEO, PHOTOS)
https://www.rt.com/news/413275-israeli-undercover-arrest-palestinians/

Israeli Troops Detain Palestinian Teen Girls at Gunpoint From Ambulance (VIDEO)
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201712151060022630-israeli-troops-detain-palestinian-teens-video/
 
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