Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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Understood, I just always felt some type of way at the babying. I can't speak too much on bts, as a unit they are probably the strongest group but individually they are weak. Even though I always preferred Kai's music and style but, I don't pull any punches or typically defend him cause he is an sm product. He is.

Lmao, to explain myself better, the reason why I never mentioned him specifically when speaking about the cultural appropriation(despite him using black culture in his work a lot) is because his natural facial features pre-plastic surgery look very indigenous looking. Its the same reason why I don't fault Lisa for doing a blaccent and leaning into black/latino culture more, because she looks like a multiracial person anyway. It doesn't make it right but I'm a bit more forgiving because I'm aware of the mis-understandings of history in Asia. There are small populations of people within southeast asia that genetically and phenotypically have a lot in common genetically with austrailoid and black subgroups of people. So honestly if they had curly hair you wouldn't be able to tell their appearance apart from the average afro-latino person or any other mulatto. Most asians genetically are the product of this but some don't look like it as much or at all. Many may have more of a russian background. Hence all the colorism and featurism.

It may not be fair, but someone of the yayoi phenotype in asia appropriating black culture takes on a very different vibe than someone who probably has more pre-yayoi features and dna running through their veins. It's the reason why I don't speak on it at all because honestly, it's a very nuanced debate to have. I wonder how many people have actually seen Kai predebut without makeup and plastic surgery? He literally looked like a black person, and that's not even including skintone. Korean fans had rumors he was african american, and many genuinely thought he was a mixed person. So do many ethnic dark skinned thai people and I'm not exaggerating, you just won't see them much in the media. Every country has a mixed population to a certain degree. Taemin was a tanner kid but his features are normal for a far east asian person, his looks were very much so the standard in Korea 100 percent. So him occasionally pretending to be micheal jackson and constantly expressing his distain for darker skin and then using black females to hype himself up. There's a lot of nuance in my opinions on the topic.

I do think Taemin's marketing was better than his and also Kai didn't do himself any favors in terms of taking care of himself. So I don't say nothing in his defense cause it's lowkey deserved everything you're saying. I actually bought more shinee albums than exo and Kai album, just to make that clear. So I feel like I'm a pretty balanced person to say these things. Lmao all these groups could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't care, so I have no dog in the fight at all.

Taemin had no talent at all when he auditioned. In singing and barely dancing, singing lessons and consistent practice has helped him a lot, I still don't think it's all to great but there's an audience for it. In an industry of plants he is the kpop standard of a plant. Kai is actually a naturally talented person, but puts forth little to no effort at times and fell into the industry hard, he's in super deep. An s.m casting coach even said he was 'a natural'. This means he basically was allowed to debut off merit alone, which is incredibly rare.

S.m doesn't allow artists to sing below their accepted standards, the reason why Kai doesn't sing live is because his voice dropped around his early 20s and he literally cannot sustain above a certain pitch live he even has to pitch his voice up to talk which strains it even more. His voice is too low to sing at s.m standards which is more like a female range. This is why the more feminine males in s.m are the 'best singers'. But none have a very wide range. It's not a biased thing to say that Kai is a very good singer but his voice doesn't fit S.m or kpop standards. Which personally I don't like at all, but it's what the korean gen public like...they want something attainable and kind of boring.

A very jb/mj type case, good heart but he's still very deep in everything. That being said any criticism he has he earned. I just feel like Taemin protects himself from any criticism by embracing the innocent act, especially by using his religion when pressed too hard about anything. It's a clear defense mechanism.

but yes I do think we agree on most points, it's just the little wittle details in between.
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Sorry I can't make any assumptions about their ethnicities based on their features alone because we don't know these people and I don't think it's fair to make judgements based on someone's appearance alone. Is Kai black? I don't know and I am going to judge him for cultural appropriation until I know better about his intention but for that he will have to speak which sadly SM doesn't allow it's artists.

I don't care about Kai or Taemin. I did at one point when I was an SM Stan but ever since I learned SM buys songs from western producers and then only adds Korean lyrics for their group and solo comebacks I lost any sense of respect I had for that company and their idols. The only real idol with a soul and passion for music to come out of that company is Jonghyun and they killed him.


There is a lyricist who works for SM and makes vlogs she said SM idols aren't allowed to communicate their thoughts to lyricists so the lyricists have to make the songs according to their understanding of the comeback which means most SM concepts lack any depth.

About Kai he is naturally gifted in dance and the only one with charisma in Exo. He has raw talent but he needs to learn how to sing his songs live for me to take him seriously or he will become Britney Spears 2.0 and no matter how good of a performer he is he will not be taken seriously as a musician.

I didn't praise Taemin because I am a fan or something. The man has admitted himself he only sang songs given by his company until now and his music and image was heavily commercialised while in SM so at least he is better than Taeyeon, Key, Minho in my eyes who are still Pinkshit employees. He gets overpraised for doing the most basic shit but the problem is 99% idols aren't even doing the bare minimum which makes him stand out. Like, he doesn't have much competition when most dancers can't sing and vocalists don't dance and now he is making his own music and working with international dancers so even more praises are going to come his way with him building the narrative with his latest comeback that it was him all along and not SM behind his solo even if he didn't do jack shit for his previous solo albums and that is one thing I can give him credit for. He was never a natural talent like Kai, JM,Jhope, but the ONLY right thing he has ever done is PRACTICE to improve his skills which is nothing to be praised for but most idols lack 2 braincells to even understand that they need to work hard for their careers and that is one thing I will give him credit for. Like him or hate him you have to admit he is clever and knows how to market himself. He stays away from controversies and was self-aware enough to know he needed how to sing before debuting solo and realized he needed to leave Pinkshit and have the title of "Self-Produced" to be taken seriously as a musician.

But, let me just rant about Taeyeon here because I f***ING hate her. You said Taemin is the standard of the perfect idol but I disagree Taeyeon is the perfect idol. That woman is worshipped in Korea just because she has good vocals but she hasn't entered the music studio even once in her decade long entire career. All she does is release glorified covers of songs created by western artists. In all her 9-10 years as a soloist she has written maybe 1-2 songs. But she gets no criticism and Kpop fans are always saying she should leave SM because they are holding her back but the truth is Taeyeon probably won't survive without the SM machine behind her albums. One of her biggest songs is "Fine" and it is literally a cover of a song released by a black woman because SM did not change even one note on the song. But so called Queen Taeyeon is immune to criticism and always ends up topping charts in Korea. Her latest album To X was the most laziest derivative shit but it's in melon's top 10 hits of the entire 2023-24 period. At least with idols like Kai, Taemin, even Jkay they are criticized by Koreans for not creating their own songs but Taeyeon doesn't even get called manufactured like them. For me SNSD and Taeyeon are the poster girls of SM's idol system. These girls were nothing more than beautiful models and the fact Taeyeon is considered the most talented out of the bunch despite being a manufactured puppet tells you so much about Koreans and their mindset.


And the thing about SM giving songs to them is not exclusive to Taemin and Taeyeon. All SM idols except the ones who have actual songwriting and composing credits are puppets of the company. I am sorry if you like Kai but SM gave Kai the Taemin rejects for his solo albums and his concepts were already done by Taemin in the past. Which I am not going to blame him for because that's how Pinkshit works. I will blame him for not learning how to sing well and if he doesn't leave Pinkshit as soon as his contract expires. I know he has a lower range but in SM there is Key who is a baritone and even though he strains a lot in his live performances his technique is good enough that he can sing his own songs live in his concerts. I am not asking for idols to be belting high notes.I am just saying they should be able to sing their OWN songs live which they themselves recorded in the studio because these people get paid for being singers and if they can't do that don't debut as a soloist and maybe try being a choreographer or something


You know the bar is on the floor when Bang PD comes out and says "He thinks skills can be taught and star factor is more important" and fans make millions of excuses when the rare times their favs have to hold a real mic.
 
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There is a new Taiwanese-pop/C-pop girlgroup named babyMINT that debuted on August 20th, 2024, with the MV, "BOOOOOORING".

This MV is literally about The Matrix of all things, and has the girlgroup "escape the matrix", of a boring school and classroom life.

They are, by some lady acting as "Morpheus", literally even given a choice of choosing between a red or blue "gummy bear", and of course, they take the red gummy bear.

Then a group of armed men in paramilitary clothing, with guns try to shoot the girls, and there's a gunfight scene of the girls successfully shooting (killing) the armed men. This is reminiscent of Neo's gunfight battle with the Agent Smiths.

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My main response? The blame can go two ways. Celebs get coached to emotionally manipulate and the average woman doesn't guard her heart it's two way street.

Most of fan interaction is company oriented. These people don't behave this way naturally, nor is the persona they show on variety or youtube actually them. It's like when people like a tv show, they don't care about the individual person only the character. Many have an artificial spiritual tie due to the nature of the music videos and the weird instagram eye contact sessions they do, this is a way to develop a spiritual emotional connection to someone. I don't speak on the fans because many are being mass manipulated. There's so many life factors that create the crazy fan, it's just a modern version of a 'jesus freak' but insert celeb here. If the person went up to them and slapped them mess out of them, the fan wouldn't like them anymore. They aren't that obsessed, they just are infatuated. For some people that's what it would take to snap out of it. That's a human being, not a fluffy baby. Humans are dangerous--a celeb can be anything, do anything, so you should always proceed with caution before feeling too bad. A man anywhere is a potential threat everywhere.

A lot of female fans would definitely go to a hotel room with a male idol. Not knowing what they would do. Many fans have ended up beaten and drugged thinking that way. I kinda feel for the celebs but I'll never fear for the safety of a grown adult man over young impressionable females. No not at all. Even these skinny malnourished men could really hurt a young female. They do this babying stuff because of marketing. A whole bunch of fans went with J@ckson W@ng to a hotel room. Could of ended up trafficked easily, extremely common all over the world, all types of men do it from rich to poor. It's kinda interesting how people worry about the safety of grown men being followed by tiny women. Was also into calling himself 'magic man' and speaking in the third person a lot. They don't know what entity he was channeling at that time.

The average male celeb is always channeling they are always trying to embody mj or 'micheal' the archangel. It's an actual ritual. Sucking women dry at every concert. Taking their energy before, after and during the concert. They always have some type of angel sigil when they do these things as well. It's in the show supernatural.

If people only knew what went on astrally they wouldn't feel so bad for all these male popstars. They be tired and depressed because they spirits are tired. Women especially pregnant women have divine protection and karma be catching up to all the energetic feeding that they do, but regardless of that.

It's an artificial attachment that companies make billions off of. Women tend to be emotional creatures, boy brands profit off of this. Asian girl groups cater to traditional female roles, males like this as do female lesbians, so in essence they do the same thing. Many cater to both. It's a job that for them they aren't even interacting with their fans a majority of the time. Their careers last 10 years if that and then they go onto do whatever they want.

Fans have the right to be sad, but in reality a lot of these fans don't gaf about these people and will replace them with a hobby or a tv show in about 3 months. People just like the accessibility of it. If kpop stops suddenly, people will just move onto something else. A lot tweet and create fan accounts because it's a business they don't really care about these people. They get tons of money selling fan cards and reselling albums, or making fan content.

I'm a woman and I can definitely say without a doubt if these girls had a real life emotional partner they actually were interested, that was just their ideal type they wouldn't be a fangirl. Boy-dolls are just fill in boyfriends for the most part. While girl-dolls are ideal role models. Many girl group fans also have insta-models as their pfp's. While boy group fans hardly discuss women at all. Many are fujoshi's and don't even want to think about the guys being straight. It's just female jealousy in different forms.
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Okay I have finally read through all of your posts and I agree with everything except I have no opinion on the stuff about rituals you talked about bcz I am not familiar with those things.


Regarding idols yes they are manufactured, use emotional blackmailing and probably hate fans and they don't work as hard as western musicians. BTS only became good for a while but once they started getting real success in America they became lazy. I know bcz I became a fan of them before I knew any other Kpop groups and I would compare Exo and BTS's performances just to be heavily disappointed in Exo because their performances looked so mechanical and robotic. All SM idols are good at is following the dance steps and singing songs like the studio but the idols lack soul and real charisma. If you see multiple performances of SM groups you won't be able to find much difference between them.

BTS had real stage presence during 2016-2020 but after Dynamite's success they became lazy. J-hope didn't even dance during jack in the box promotions and they rarely danced after 2020. Hyb3 threw so much money at him to make him the next MJ but he ended being Korean Justin Bieber than an MJ protégé. Paying homage is one thing but he just looks like wannabe MJ because he didn't add any uniqueness to the song that would tell us about his identity as an artist and JM seems to be following Jkay's footsteps.

Most SM idols have so many passing out on stage moments because the company puts too much emphasis on making their idols look beautiful and youthful which means SM idols are always on strict diets and so much effort goes into making them look pretty. Regarding the excerpts from interview where Taemin was criticizing Superm that time SM kind of shafted his solo album to promote Superm and NGDA was his first album where he had substantial creative control and wrote some songs so he was pissed at SM because of that. For NCT members in Superm it was the norm because they always have multiple comebacks and that's why you probably thought they didn't look tired. Baekhyun is more of a business person in my opinion and his reason for leaving SM were probably money related which is the thing they keep focusing on in the CBX lawsuit. He is also doing other things like launching a fashion brand which makes me think he is in for the money. D.O just wants to make indie music without being bothered with doing aegyo and idol stuff. Boa is washed and doesn't have any passion left that's why she is retiring. I don't know what Kai, Chanyeol and other exo members are gonna do but I hope they leave SM as soon as they can. Kai has a lot of potential and could become global in my opinion if he just focuses on being more authentic in his music and learns to sing well.

Onew got tired of idol stuff and wants to do more indie music. He also had self-esteem issues and idol promo hurt his health so him leaving SM makes perfect sense and he is one of the few in SM I actually think makes good meaningful music.

Taemin's reason for leaving SM is because he couldn't let SM take credit for his solo work after they shafted Criminal to promote Superm. He wants recognition for himself as a solo artist and the real Diva in SHINee not Key and he can be really petty when things don't go the way he wants. The cute maknae image is a facade and he can be hella shady. I have my own criticism of him mainly being that regardless of what this forum thinks about him his work does have some artistic merit and he has so much talent as well as a sharp mind which could make him a great artist but he doesn't fully embrace his artistic side and has been doing commercial music for too long. Like, the man who enjoys studying Quantum mechanics as a hobby and thinks about existential questions like what is the meaning of consciousness and what is the self can't be dumb and why doesn't he do such concepts for his music? All the Quantum mechanics references in his album concept and lyrics for his latest album were used in a scientifically correct way which shows he does understand the science and didn't just use it as a superficial aesthetic like most idols do or just to make himself look more smart but I want him to stop focusing on commercial appeal and just embrace his artsy and philosophical side. He did say this was his last commercialised album so I hope he will release more artistic and meaningful stuff moving forward.


I have some opinions about Key as well. Imo, he is the most overrated SHINee member and all his concepts are just superficial and marketing ploys to get as much money out of his fans as he can. Shawols hail him as revolutionary but fail to realize if he ever released something like Good and Great or Gasoline in America he would be at best considered a bubblegum pop artist whose music is for teenagers and not a real musician.
He also comes off as a try-hard in most of his attempts at looking badass but Shawols are dumb so they think he is cool. I also think Kai can come off as a try-hard with his facial expressions. Like, sometimes the facial expressions don't match the tone of the song and he always uses the same 2-3 expressions. However, Kai has real potential and his work is not entirely meaningless.


I also hate the lores in Kpop group and soloist concepts and believe this is the reason for Aespa and Superm's failure in the west. All these big companies treat idols like they are characters in an RPG game or an Anime which is something that could only make teenagers interested in them and real adults would find no joy learning about the lore of Kwangya or what superpowers Exo and Aespa members have. I also hate how they added Exo storyline into Baekhyun and Kai's solo and am disappointed Baekhyun didn't scrap that with his Asian tour. Thank God D.O and the others didn't let Exo lore enter their solo work.


I believe most idols don't really have passion or drive for music and probably just want to be famous which could be a reason why the bar for singing and dancing is so low in Kpop. Idols will claim they work hard to improve their skills but the hard work is never reflected in their live performances. How can JM sound like a crying goat in his 10th year as an idol when he has been saying he is taking singing lessons since at least 2017?? and I laugh when idol fans make excuses about their schedules not allowing them to practice singing. Most of their schedules involve them sitting in front of a camera and saying lines they have memorized and facial expressions they have already practiced 100 times. They put more effort in looking pretty for the cameras then actually cultivating talent. There is also nepotism involved with many idols from 4th and 5th gen being kids from rich families.

I Also hate how in Kpop a group member leaving his group or prioritising his solo career is seen like a huge crime. These fans want idols to do aegyo and record staged programs for fanservice in their 30s. I follow SHINee more closely so I can talk about how the news about Taemin and Onew leaving SM has made a substantial number of people in the fandom sad bcz they won't get their precious group content anymore. These guys attribute everything their favs do as people to the group SHINee a good example being the plagiarism joke started by Jonghyun. For all their claims about being fans of SHINee because of their music they don't know or seem to listen to any music outside of their favs. A good example being some Shawols trying to connect Jonghyun's song Deja Boo with Taemin's song Deja Vu even though both songs have nothing in common except for the name. If someone other than Key does a retro synth concept ohh that means he was inspired by Key because God forbid these members can have their own tastes in music not related to their members. They hyped that trashy album Hard last year claiming it was a masterpiece even though they failed horribly in doing a hip hop concept and claim how Revolutionary SHINee's sound was in Kpop when most of their work is just covers of songs released by Black R&B artists. There are also too many SM bootlickers in that group who still to this day will defend SM because they can't accept the fact that two members Key and Minho are not artistically inclined and are happy being manufactured products of the idol system. And regarding that I never understood the concept of company stans. How can you stan a corrupt corporation? Like in the MHJ Vs Hybe battle so many people were siding with Hybe just because they stand Hybe groups or how there are people who praise LSM and Bang PD as revolutionaries despite the fact these same people have created the toxic and corrupt idol system their fabs are victim off.


All in all I agree with a lot of things you said and there's more I could say about how f**ked up idol system is but this is enough for now.
 
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Know that Shlomi Berg is a zionist, and that this is proof that the zionists have infiltrated kpop well more than a decade ago, for control in kpop MV and music production, for their mind control schemes. They plan to control the minds of Korean youth through and with kpop. The zionist Scooter Braun is just another one of them.

You already know this from, page 67 of this megathread, with former chairman of SM Entertainment, Lee Soo-Man, having some sort of relationship with the zionist, Baroness Madame Phillippine de Rothschild, of all people, and being given knighthood of all titles, for having a relationship with her.

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Guys, I was on pannchoa reading articles related to Exo CBX lawsuit and it turns out Baekhyun could be doing some shady and illegal stuff.

Unlike, D.O, Taemin, Onew who left SM after their contracts legally expired Baekhyun, Xiumim, Chen filed a lawsuit after they had already renewed their contract with SM till 2029 but so SM is accusing them of breach of contract. Also, Baekhyun took a huge loan to make Inb100 and if you see the building of Baekhyun's company it looks luxurious while D.O and Onew's companies are small also when this lawsuit happened SM accused MC Mong of poaching Exo CBX which Baekhyun and MC Mong denied but this year Baekhyun's company was acquired by MC Mong's label which proves Baekhyun lied and he is also no longer listed as CEO of his company. I read posts from pannchoa commentators that Baekhyun is super close to MC Mong and Cha ga won who is a major stakeholder in BPM and all it's subsidiaries. I read posts saying Cha Ga won could be Baekhyun's sugar mama because he was spotted with her overseas on vacation by fans or something and she said in CBX's press conference that Baekhyun, MC Mong and her have a relationship closer than family which is very suspicious statement.


Now, SM is saying Baekhyun's company did not pay 10% IP for using songs SM owns for 6 months. Remember Baekhyun did not make any of his own albums so he has to pay a fees which was decided to be 10% of revenue from all of his company revenues. SM is claiming they also had to pay the price for one of Baekhyun's concerts which was cancelled. D.O, Taemin, Onew do not have to pay this 10% IP fees because they left SM after their contracts were legally expired and are no longer SM artist anymore. Meanwhile, CBX are still not legally free from SM because they tried to cancel a contract they had already signed with SM. Furthermore, since now MC Mong's company has acquired Baekhyun's company it means Baekhyun really was lying about his intentions. MC mong did admit last year that he wanted Exo Baekhyun and Kai to join his company but Kai was already in the military by the time Baekhyun filed the lawsuit so I think Baekhyun convinced Xiumin and Chen to go with him instead. Legally SM's side is strong and they might actually win the lawsuit. If that happens Exo CBX will probably be blacklisted because SM seems sick of them. I have a feeling LSM is behind this. I heard some rumors about Baekhyun being treated like a trophy wife by LSM and he is now targeting the 2 people who kicked out LSM from SM entertainment so he could be working on LSM's behalf.

As much as I hate SM entertainment and think that company deserves to burn I think Exo CBX and especially Baekhyun are wrong. He seems to have become a little arrogant because of his massive fan base and seems like he is greedy for money. It's not right if he didn't even pay the cancellation fee for his concert. I am worried this may not end well for them and Baekhyun along with Chen and Xiumin might get blacklisted. I really feel disappointed because I used to like Baekhyun because of his amazing vocals but I think he made a huge blunder with this move. While, Taemin is also under MC Mong's label SM don't seem to have much problem with him leaving because he was smart enough to wait until his contract had legally expired and I don't think SM can make a legal case against him for signing contracts with a new label once he was no longer under SM.


I also think Taemin's current solo is funded by LSM's money because MC Mong's companies seem to run on investor basis which means artists under BPM are promoted according to how much money the board of directors or major stakeholders are willing to invest in an artist and LSM was spotted in Vietnam watching Taemin's last schedule with SM on 30th along with current CEO of BPM. This is why there seem to be difference in the amount of promo and budget artists under BPM are given for their CBs. Viviz receive little compared to Taemin and BadVillian. For BadVillian and Baekhyun it was confirmed by MC Mong and Cha Ga won that they invested money for their success but for Taemin it is unknown and I think it could be LSM because LSM seemed to be close to MC Mong as well. In fact I would say even D.O and Onew could have hidden Investors behind them because they are spending so much money on promotions and also doing so many fan concerts which require a lot of money and they can't do so much without someone rich investing money in them. The Ceo's of Onew and D.O's company could be LSM loyalists as well. However, among all of them I believe Exo CBX are the ones who are most at risk of getting blacklisted because they breached their contract and are still required to be affiliated with SM until their contract expires in 2029.
 
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Guys I want your thoughts on this plz. I am digging up some info on Baekhyun and he seems so shady. There are strong rumors about him having s*xual relationship with Cha Ga Won the current major stakeholder of One Hundred the parent company of Baekhyun's label and a former SM director. Like, these rumors are not coming from sasaeng accounts this is out in the open and Cha Ga Won publicly said her relationship with Baekhyun is like that of family. Also, Lee S00 Man apparently, asked some artists to create custom made sculpture/portrait of Baekhyun and hanged it in the SM building to commemorate him being a Million album seller artist but this feels a strange way to celebrate his success?


I wish I don't sound rude but could he be one of those who slept his way through the top?


I remember there was a blind item talking about an A-lister soloist who used to be in a group but went solo sleeping his way through up and they never disclosed who he was. A lot of members here speculated it could be a 2nd gen artist like JYJ or Taemin bcz they mention his company being a conglomerate and SM was the only one among Big 3 which was a conglomerate but could that idol be Baekhyun?? I never thought it could be him bcz there were never such speculations about him but ever since he left SM a lot of info can be found which makes me suspicious of him.
 
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Guys I want your thoughts on this plz. I am digging up some info on Baekhyun and he seems so shady. There are strong rumors about him having s*xual relationship with Cha Ga Won the current major stakeholder of One Hundred the parent company of Baekhyun's label and a former SM director. Like, these rumors are not coming from sasaeng accounts this is out in the open and Cha Ga Won publicly said her relationship with Baekhyun is like that of family. Also, Lee S00 Man apparently, asked some artists to create custom made sculpture/portrait of Baekhyun and hanged it in the SM building to commemorate him being a Million album seller artist but this feels a strange way to celebrate his success?


I wish I don't sound rude but could he be one of those who slept his way through the top?


I remember there was a blind item talking about an A-lister soloist who used to be in a group but went solo sleeping his way through up and they never disclosed who he was. A lot of members here speculated it could be a 2nd gen artist like JYJ or Taemin bcz they mention his company being a conglomerate and SM was the only one among Big 3 which was a conglomerate but could that idol be Baekhyun?? I never thought it could be him bcz there were never such speculations about him but ever since he left SM a lot of info can be found which makes me suspicious of him.
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I can't spend a lot of time discussing it, bc id have to write a short novel. But when you dig you find sugar baby rumors for most of eggso. Hanse and idol disclosed how much money idols truly make and went into idol economics. It may sound like he's an attention grabber because why would any body expose their own industry. But he is a very religious person. So I believe his guilt eats him up. He has said more about the industry than almost any other idol.

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Mind you if you go back to the begining of eggso's career they were at music shows constantly, some might say too much. Even when I was young I noticed they promoted way more than the average group and that was with 12 members. So if you add up their first album being a flop and wolf underperforming, plus dividing 10 percent of the profits with 12 people? That's a joke. No wonder they did fanservice 24/7

During a Christmas vlive in 2020 Kai joked that now he was a rookie again and he has to practice or they will lock him inside the house and not let him eat........I doubt that was a joke even if he said it was.


Kris Wu began talking a little bit when he went to Los Angelos about s.m management. Not surprised he ended up in jail. He got arrested the same year s.m stopped making money off of him. Seriously. I feel like his NDA ran out and he would of been able to talk. He is north American and has rights, like freedom of speech so I believe they had to get him booked in China. No fair trial and unlike in America what journalist will let anyone in prison for anything talk. Sadly it's only people with american citizenship that can talk freely. I believe he was seen with Lucas of Nct talking with him. And maybe a month later they both disappeared. Lucas randomly appeared a few months ago and he now has a tattoo
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his manager was clearly acting as his handler in his recent documentary. It seems unrelated, but I don't think it is. Snake.M is struggling and they are doing anything to bounce back and gain control of these people. Mind you these are just cases of when people try and screw over s.m. Not even successfully do it.


So either B.k is divinely blessed or he has someone big backing him to have the guts to got after s.m and screw them over like this. It's sad but lsm acts like johnny kitagawa and treats the pretty boys at s.m like his property. It isn't just one he treats ALL the pretty boys like property. It's really on the parents, but also on the society. No different than when adults would send their kids to 'teachers' in ancient greece and japan to be mentored knowing damn well what would happen. It's a parental societal failure.

It honestly makes me ill that kitagawa was exposed, diddy was exposed, yet lsm is still procuring children TO THIS DAY!
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He has spend millions building them a career. Their loyalty to him is probably 100 percent. I can see them still listening to whatever he says even though he isn't at s.m. This is probably why cbx screwed the current team over. To show their loyalty. Lsm probably rewarded them for it.

If you study behavior of SRA pretty much all of them have the symptoms, anxiety, depression, quick temper, shaking. This would have to start from childhood. Therefore it's sadly much deeper than one or two bad people. Solely blaming Snakeman would be pointless, because where are the parents, why doesn't anyone step in?


Honestly it's all very shady, but people in Korea want a career. Almost none will talk unless they have a death wish.

Also I read that blind item before. If you look at the date it was released and who's album was coming out around that time then you will know who they were talking about. I would just rather not say it on here. The blind had that info because super m was in La. Lawyers get info from the companies as collateral. It's very sad. It also lined up with g#cci's promotion cycle. It's so sick how the industry works. They leak stuff like that on purpose.

It's believed that all s/m idols are filthy rich because their fans spend tons of money and s/m is a billion dollar company but that isn't necessarily true. They have a lot of dead broke celebs in hollywood. A lot of them live off of hollywood type loans. Many get married to actual wealthy people to stay afloat and keep investors. It's on E news all the time. It just isn't spoken of in the k industry. But in Korea they can't just openly date like this even if it's wealthy people.The fans don't like it. So many cover up with other stuff, like this is my noona or my manager. I believe we're getting the bare minimum. Snake.M isn't stupid they won't destroy the reputation of one of the only money making groups they have left.

Also yeah Bk is very shady, he's one of the few that just wants his money. I believe he'd ruin his own career if he could leave a multi millionaire. His fans are a trip though, they really think he's adorable and just wants eggso to stay together. People need to understand a lot of these people are supporting an entire family, not just themselves they have to make more than a few million to keep a family of aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces and nephews afloat.

So yes many are cutthroat but this is their life. I try to look at it from both sides. Mentally these people are pretty much dead already and they don't care about anything accept money. But I don't believe it's Taemin simply because regardless of all the creepy moments his parents were present and he did live with them. He also got an education. They mainly do this to people who come from nothing with parents who are either M.i.a or fame hungry.
 

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I can't spend a lot of time discussing it, bc id have to write a short novel. But when you dig you find sugar baby rumors for most of eggso. Hanse and idol disclosed how much money idols truly make and went into idol economics. It may sound like he's an attention grabber because why would any body expose their own industry. But he is a very religious person. So I believe his guilt eats him up. He has said more about the industry than almost any other idol.

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Mind you if you go back to the begining of eggso's career they were at music shows constantly, some might say too much. Even when I was young I noticed they promoted way more than the average group and that was with 12 members. So if you add up their first album being a flop and wolf underperforming, plus dividing 10 percent of the profits with 12 people? That's a joke. No wonder they did fanservice 24/7

During a Christmas vlive in 2020 Kai joked that now he was a rookie again and he has to practice or they will lock him inside the house and not let him eat........I doubt that was a joke even if he said it was.


Kris Wu began talking a little bit when he went to Los Angelos about s.m management. Not surprised he ended up in jail. He got arrested the same year s.m stopped making money off of him. Seriously. I feel like his NDA ran out and he would of been able to talk. He is north American and has rights, like freedom of speech so I believe they had to get him booked in China. No fair trial and unlike in America what journalist will let anyone in prison for anything talk. Sadly it's only people with american citizenship that can talk freely. I believe he was seen with Lucas of Nct talking with him. And maybe a month later they both disappeared. Lucas randomly appeared a few months ago and he now has a tattoo
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his manager was clearly acting as his handler in his recent documentary. It seems unrelated, but I don't think it is. Snake.M is struggling and they are doing anything to bounce back and gain control of these people. Mind you these are just cases of when people try and screw over s.m. Not even successfully do it.


So either B.k is divinely blessed or he has someone big backing him to have the guts to got after s.m and screw them over like this. It's sad but lsm acts like johnny kitagawa and treats the pretty boys at s.m like his property. It isn't just one he treats ALL the pretty boys like property. It's really on the parents, but also on the society. No different than when adults would send their kids to 'teachers' in ancient greece and japan to be mentored knowing damn well what would happen. It's a parental societal failure.

It honestly makes me ill that kitagawa was exposed, diddy was exposed, yet lsm is still procuring children TO THIS DAY!
"His tastes"

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He has spend millions building them a career. Their loyalty to him is probably 100 percent. I can see them still listening to whatever he says even though he isn't at s.m. This is probably why cbx screwed the current team over. To show their loyalty. Lsm probably rewarded them for it.

If you study behavior of SRA pretty much all of them have the symptoms, anxiety, depression, quick temper, shaking. This would have to start from childhood. Therefore it's sadly much deeper than one or two bad people. Solely blaming Snakeman would be pointless, because where are the parents, why doesn't anyone step in?


Honestly it's all very shady, but people in Korea want a career. Almost none will talk unless they have a death wish.

Also I read that blind item before. If you look at the date it was released and who's album was coming out around that time then you will know who they were talking about. I would just rather not say it on here. The blind had that info because super m was in La. Lawyers get info from the companies as collateral. It's very sad. It also lined up with g#cci's promotion cycle. It's so sick how the industry works. They leak stuff like that on purpose.

It's believed that all s/m idols are filthy rich because their fans spend tons of money and s/m is a billion dollar company but that isn't necessarily true. They have a lot of dead broke celebs in hollywood. A lot of them live off of hollywood type loans. Many get married to actual wealthy people to stay afloat and keep investors. It's on E news all the time. It just isn't spoken of in the k industry. But in Korea they can't just openly date like this even if it's wealthy people.The fans don't like it. So many cover up with other stuff, like this is my noona or my manager. I believe we're getting the bare minimum. Snake.M isn't stupid they won't destroy the reputation of one of the only money making groups they have left.

Also yeah Bk is very shady, he's one of the few that just wants his money. I believe he'd ruin his own career if he could leave a multi millionaire. His fans are a trip though, they really think he's adorable and just wants eggso to stay together. People need to understand a lot of these people are supporting an entire family, not just themselves they have to make more than a few million to keep a family of aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces and nephews afloat.

So yes many are cutthroat but this is their life. I try to look at it from both sides. Mentally these people are pretty much dead already and they don't care about anything accept money. But I don't believe it's Taemin simply because regardless of all the creepy moments his parents were present and he did live with them. He also got an education. They mainly do this to people who come from nothing with parents who are either M.i.a or fame hungry.
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Thanks for your reply and you are right we would have to write a whole novel to explain everything. Honestly, my image of Eggso is ruined. I never stanned them but they were the Kpop group with best vocals so I respected them for that.

OMG! are you referring to K? Bcz among the idols who were having comebacks in November 2020 he is the only one who is gucci's ambassador. Never thought about him honestly but it makes sense bcz he is so big in the fashion industry and was being promoted by fashion brands during his solo debut. Still, his fans claim he funded his solo from his own pocket. Like are they insane? you can't do such high level promotions without a sponsor backing you.

BBH is definitely fighting on behalf of LSM and he's money hungry. The international side doesn't know but Koreans are mostly siding with Snake.M in the CBX lawsuit because legally Snake.M's case is strong. BBH hasn't paid IP fee of 6 months for performing SM songs and using SM's trademarked goods like Exo Lightstick and logo during his tour. This is wrong bcz Snake.M as shady as they are still own rights to everything related to Exo and CBX are still using their stage names too. D.O changed his stage name I think because of this reason. All idols who left Snake.M waited till their contracts legally expired but BBH is dumb and followed his sponsors' advice but now they are stuck with this lawsuit which they could actually lose bcz Snake.M's case is strong.


I hate how BBH is manipulating Eggsols by acting cute and innocent and claiming he is doing this for Eggso when it's clear he couldn't do this without the blessings of MC Mong and Cha Gawon. BBH filed a lawsuit against the same people who kicked out LSM so he's really doing it for grandpa Soo Man because it's not like Snake.M was paradise before LSM left. They have always had issues with management but suddenly now all idols in Snake.M are talking about how bad things are at Snake.M after grandpa Sooman's departure. Also, isn't it weird how Onew went on a year long hiatus after grandpa soo man was fired from Snake.M and than magically healed after his contract expired? Sure, he looked unhealthy during SHINee's HARD promo but I feel he extended his hiatus bcz of Soo Man. Where did he get money to make his own company? He was not that popular or a huge money maker like D.O, BBH so he must have a sponsor too. Also, with the recent chat room incident in SK I am side-eyeing him these days. There was actually strong evidence against him during his 2017 sexual harassment scandal and the victim was forced to shut her mouth because of Snake.M. There is no way a woman would take someone to court over a simple misunderstanding and his image was whitewashed by Snake.M afterwards. If you see his new photos after moving to Griffin now he is styled to look more young, attractive and Sexually attractive which is weird for an idol in his 30s and it proves he is not as pure and innocent as he likes to portray himself.

LSM is connected to CBX lawsuit. He is close to MC Mong and probably the real owner of One Hundred/BPM and Inb100. MC Mong admitted he tried to poach BBH and Kai to come to his company too but Kai probably refused because of enlistment so BBH recruited Chen and Xiumin instead and he also "Influenced" Taemin like the rumors said but he was smart enough to wait until his contract legally expired. BBH should really take some notes from Taemin's book on how to market himself. He got out of Snake.M cleanly, became self-produced, changed his signature, made his own logo and light stick which he is now spamming everywhere much to Shawols' displeasure because some think he is erasing his identity as SHINee but it's a smart move to avoid paying extra IP fee to Snake.M. I am sure LSM is a sponsor for him too bcz BPM don't have the money to do a world tour. BBH should have made his own light stick and logo too if he wanted to be independent and we will have to wait for them to drop the track list of his latest album to see if he contributed to anything in his solo or is still relying on producers to make music for him.

I have seen some of the rumors you are talking about. There is some horrible stuff you can find about eggso members on K-forums and it's worse than just them having sponsors. Now, that they are out of Snake.M more info about their shady past is circulating online. It's weird to see Eggsols now complaining about Snake.m not caring about the boys when their favs received preferential treatment in that company pretty much until their enlistment era started.

Essem idols fail in America because they are "rich people's club". Most of them come from well-off families and have connections in the industry. Taeyeon, Onew were students at Essem Academy which is crazy expensive school. Key went to America to study pre-debut. You will never hear stories about Essem idols struggling to make ends meet or going from rags to riches like other company idols. Americans love an underdog story and they like Beeteeass because they came from humble background. Essem made Superm and Espa lipsync during their American tours and promotion because they want their idols to look perfect and they added weird superhero lore to Superm and Espa's concept trying to make their idols look badass and "above" other idols because like most rich people executives at essem have a huge ego and this weird mentality that they are better than others bcz of their privileges.Meanwhile, BP and Beeteeass despite being less vocally skilled try to sing live most of the time. Beeteeass is also self-produced which makes them more legit as musicians than most Essem idols who don't make their own music.

There aren't many idols in Essem who have a relatable story. They had boa ig who had to struggle a little in the beginning but they market her as some kind of superwoman which makes her less relatable and she ruined her reputation in Korea with her Diva attitude on survival programs. Taeyeon is famous but didn't have to move a finger for her career and has a bland barbie doll personality. Who else is left? Yunho? he didn't struggle either and he's over in Korea after his scandal and no one cares about Kangta or Changmin in SK. They got the classic underdog tale of hard work and dedication with Taemin but they ignored the "hard work" part and decided to market him as male Boa which failed and he freed himself now so they don't have any idol who could be considered an "icon" in Kpop rn. Essem idols have nothing more than sales and awards which the company often buys for them. JYP debuted Rain who is more of an icon of 1st gen than Boa and YG had the likes of Psy, G-dragon who are more respected in SK. Hyb3 has Beeteeas and now NJ. Essem has Espa who are big rn but don't have the personality or story to become icons in the industry.
 
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