Satan: Who is he?

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That's the thing, when replying to Clout, or others of the one- line incitful ilk (who other people have pointed out is controlled op or a schill - participating often, only interjecting irritating info while feigning? ignorance and very super low knowledge of the topics on this blog, here just to derail or bother us) you would be re-typing all the old posts from the beginning of the thread. Clout (if you are a real/sincere person) should have done that first, reading recommended reading list and becoming an expert (like others here- painstaking efforts after years of Bible study, and having read many occult/spec.ops/nwo/gov/club of rome/mind control/mockingbird/gemotria/sec soc. survivor memoirs, just the bare minimum basics), before posting absolute elementary one sentence questions, in many different posts, and provacative statements, just to slow us down. These one liner basic blunt untruths posted here - do not require a well thought out response- by prolific readers (and some great writers here too!) as we can never learn from them, and they are not interested in learning- it seems they are here to annoy? So, instead, just use the 'ignore' option on the users who have appeared to not done basic levels of due diligence and have a marginal absorption of information, as they lower the quality of this international expert forum for the knowledgable. Anybody else feel this way? Hope this isn't too snobby? Others, I'm sure, only type the bare minimum and prefer to 'hint' at truths- because they have already been harassed for speaking the it, and we already know that everything is under surveillance-yes, even this site (created for it?). Trying not to be a niche conspiracy elite or snub any one, but a better platform for brand new/basic truthers who are just getting started and haven't read dozens (or hundreds) of books/articles, should post on the large platform reddit, quora blogs. Or, just catch up on the recommended reading and archives until they can type a couple of sentences and/or paragraphs together that will be value added insight for the majority of users.
I don't really know @Clout so I didn't know they had that kind of reputation. I haven't really had much dealings with him/her in these forums.

I do use the ignore option most times but sometimes I respond knowing others will be reading what I post even though the person I am responding to may not. The reason for that is that some Christians do not know these truths because they never study the Bible. Some may be new Christians and need information on different subjects they are studying too. Its also the reason why I link my other threads on similar subjects.

So even though I know Clout is well aware what the Bible says and I had already responded to him/her in a previous post about what the Bible says about Satan being an angel, I repeated myself for him/her and others who may not have read what I posted at the beginning of this thread and other threads about angels.
 

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Satan is an angel. A created being not "an unholy mass of bad negative vibes." God, the Person that created Lucifer tells us so in His Word. Don't you believe Him?...
Nobody has ever seen Satan walking around on earth, and likewise nobody has ever seen God either.
Jesus said "God is spirit, and his worshippers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” (John 4:24), so it follows that Satan too is an invisible spirit given power by all the negative bad vibes churned out by nonchristians and atheists disrupting the harmony of the earth causing disease and disasters etc-
"The floodgates of the heavens are opened, the foundations of the earth shake...
the earth is violently shaken...so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion" (Isaiah ch 25)


 

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Clout, or others...here just to derail or bother us...
I back up everything i say with Bible quotes, so if they bother you it's your problem not mine-
Jesus said:-"Whoever's ashamed of me and my words, I'll be ashamed of him" (Mark 8:38 )
Be careful or you'll end up on here..:)-

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..some Christians do not know these truths because they never study the Bible..
I'm sure jews know the Old Testament off by heart, but that won't stop them going up the spout..:)
Jesus said:-"You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life." (John 5:39/40)
Paul said - "I am worried lest you be led astray from the simplicity of Christ" (2 Cor 11:3)
God sent Jesus to give us the NEW Testament and people had no trouble understanding him without intensive "bible study"-
"And the common people heard him gladly" (Mark 12:37)
"When they saw the courage of Peter and John and realized that they were unschooled, ordinary men, they were astonished and they took note that these men had been with Jesus" (Acts 4:13)
In fact i'm sure Satan is chuckling because many people are put off christianity by being told they must study the WHOLE bible instead of concentrating on just the gospels.
 

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Clout- Nowhere in scripture do we find Luci "an unholy mass of bad negative vibes."
You do not look for Bible verses to back up your Luci statements, only Phipps does, a page away in this thread citing Ezekiel 28:12-17 “You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty" The verse goes on to detail all of the precious stone materials and built in musical instruments included in his being. A basic cursory google search shows hundreds of scriptures on the topic, including his transformer shapeshift superpower nature where he is a Red Dragon and Ancient Serpent in the book of Revelation (not found in the Mathew/Mark/Luke/John gospels which is your admitted firmament).
Then.... "Nobody has ever seen Satan walking around on earth, and likewise nobody has ever seen God either." Although its true nobody has seen God, many have seen Luci, including any one in the occult (on any continent), near death experiences, Catholic exorcists, all of which you can very easily research- and all the descriptions are similar in his heavenly original gorgeous solid gold form, black cube (of destruction) or ancient red dragon. Ex generational witches Erica and Bamboo have 31 separate youtube (still not censored?!) episodes of witchcraft travel to Hell, each one of those series is 1-3 hours. There you go- there is a start learn 62 hours of detailed description.
 

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The name that Allah HATES the most, (it's in their book) is the King of Kings.
Why do we keep having the same old conversation about Islam when it only comes down to this.

Jesus is Lord or YOU are against him, everything else is Pagan.
 

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Allah says in the Koran that Jesus was not the son of God, so if Allah is the Christian God I'm the Queen of Sheba..:)
He is, but he is just a prophet and didn't die for our sin. But that's how Islam falls flat.
 

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Nobody has ever seen Satan walking around on earth, and likewise nobody has ever seen God either.
Jesus said "God is spirit, and his worshippers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” (John 4:24), so it follows that Satan too is an invisible spirit given power by all the negative bad vibes churned out by nonchristians and atheists disrupting the harmony of the earth causing disease and disasters etc-
"The floodgates of the heavens are opened, the foundations of the earth shake...
the earth is violently shaken...so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion" (Isaiah ch 25)


Jesus is God and He walked around on earth and was seen by many. The Bible makes it clear that Jesus is God:

In Isaiah is a prophecy about Jesus that says, “For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6).

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. ... He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. ... And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth" (John 1:1-3, 10, 14).

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory" (1 Timothy 3:16).

“For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily(Colossians 2:9).

People haven't seen the God the Father but they don't have to when they've seen Jesus. I'm sure you remember Jesus said, "I and the Father are one” (John 10:30). The reason He said that is because they are perfectly united in everything they do.

Jesus calls God the Father, God and His Father but they are both God as well as the Holy Spirit. All three Persons of the Godhead are fully God. “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” (1 John 5:7).

And just because no one has seen Satan doesn't mean he does not exist. He is an angel, they are not normally seen are they? They live in a different dimension to us. If God says Satan exists as well as all the other angels (good and evil) and that He created them, who are you or I to question that. God does not lie ever. He cannot sin which lying is.

So what you're posting about God and Satan is contrary to what God tells us in His Word isn't it?

Should we pick and choose what parts of the Bible we believe in and go hand in hand with our beliefs while rejecting other parts?
 
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The name that Allah HATES the most, (it's in their book) is the King of Kings.
Why do we keep having the same old conversation about Islam when it only comes down to this.

Jesus is Lord or YOU are against him, everything else is Pagan.
I think you're confusing me with someone else, maybe @A Freeman?

I have never claimed the things you've posted. I've never read the king of kings book and I have no intention of ever reading it. And I don't believe I've ever had any conversations with you about Islam, at least not to my recollection.

I agree, Jesus is Lord and I have never said or implied anything that even suggests He isn't.
 
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I'm sure jews know the Old Testament off by heart, but that won't stop them going up the spout..:)
Jesus said:-"You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life." (John 5:39/40)
Paul said - "I am worried lest you be led astray from the simplicity of Christ" (2 Cor 11:3)
God sent Jesus to give us the NEW Testament and people had no trouble understanding him without intensive "bible study"-
"And the common people heard him gladly" (Mark 12:37)
"When they saw the courage of Peter and John and realized that they were unschooled, ordinary men, they were astonished and they took note that these men had been with Jesus" (Acts 4:13)
In fact i'm sure Satan is chuckling because many people are put off christianity by being told they must study the WHOLE bible instead of concentrating on just the gospels.
If you are @Flarepath, the former @Tidal (I suspect you are), then this will explain why you don't believe the Bible about Satan because you do pick and choose what parts of the Bible to believe while rejecting the parts that contradict your unbiblical beliefs. Plus you don't believe Jesus is God.

Ah yes, I remember now. You also don't think the Bible should be studied hence why you're all over the place with your beliefs some of which are not biblical.
 

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I see, you're not a Christian plus you believe in pagan greek mythology. You do know that is not real right?! That is why the word "myth" is in the word mythology. These stories are false, they are made up and never happened. Zeus, venus and all the other mythological gods never existed.

God does not lie and can never lie and I'll believe Him over you seeing as He is the One who created Satan and knows him better than you or me.
well your kind of right... the fallen angels nephilim where called by these names nothing but demonic entities
 

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I back up everything i say with Bible quotes, so if they bother you it's your problem not mine-
Jesus said:-"Whoever's ashamed of me and my words, I'll be ashamed of him" (Mark 8:38 )
Be careful or you'll end up on here..:)-

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do something original u have used that one already jeez... your old mind to feeble to think something new up?
 

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well your kind of right... the fallen angels nephilim where called by these names nothing but demonic entities
I'm completely right according to the Bible. Nephilim were 100% human beings according to the Bible. To say they were anything else other than 100% human comes from outside the Bible (the book of Enoch) from books not inspired by God which is why they are not in the Bible.

The evil angels who rebelled against God with Satan as their leader are the demons, devils or unclean spirits according to God's Word (Matthew 8:16, 28-32; Mark 5:13; 1 Corinthians 10:20-21).

We'll always disagree on this subject and a few others, but I will always choose to trust only the Bible on this subject as its the ultimate authority on all things.
 
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I'm completely right according to the Bible. Nephilim were 100% human beings according to the Bible. To say they were anything else other than 100% human comes from outside the Bible (the book of Enoch) from books not inspired by God which is why they are not in the Bible.

The evil angels who rebelled against God with Satan as their leader are the demons, devils or unclean spirits according to God's Word (Matthew 8:16, 28-32; Mark 5:13; 1 Corinthians 10:20-21).

We'll always disagree on this subject and a few other, and I will always choose to trust only the Bible on this subject as its the ultimate authority on all things.
Hmmmm.... Many Christian religions are 'solo scriptora' Bible only (Baptists/GoodNewsAssembly) and from Genesis, we know humans Adam and Eve were not supposed to know about or eat out of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They failed and lost paradise right away in Genesis. Lucifer was gloating at how quick and easy we were to trick, constantly trying to show God how inferior humans are, and you know the rest- he was punished and we were punished, with growing old to death.

The book of Enoch does perfectly explain what the Bible hints at "there were giants in those days" b/c they were human moms with fallen angel 'watcher' dads. Prior to our creation, angels did not procreate or have kids, so they were crazy curious and jealous and wanted to have families also. The book of Enoch (free online) names all of them. "And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens. Galdreel was the angel that was guarding the gates of Garden of Eden, so Lucifer had to trick him into entry, so he could then trick Adam and Eve into eating the fruit of knowledge. Ugh. The book of Enoch does not explain if Lucifer was tempting the watchers, or if they all just did it of their own curiosity or their own free will?

Lots of the nephalim are mentioned in the actual Bible: Azazel: "Aaron shall cast lots on the two goats, one lot for the Lord and the other lot for Azazel. Aaron shall present the goat on which the lot fell for the Lord, and offer it as a sin offering; but the goat on which the lot fell for Azazel shall be presented alive before the Lord to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Azazel" scapegoat origin from Leviticus 16:6.

The nephalim (baby giants that grew to be three thousand ells high) went on to corrupt the earth, taught by their superpower dads how to make drugs/weapons/make up/sorcery and war- they caused lots of sin and destruction and promiscuity then possible interbreeding between other species (mermaids/unicorns). Genesis 6:6 says that “The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.” And, in response, God determined to destroy all life on the earth. It would be easy to read this and see a God who was caught off guard by how sinful humanity had become. A God who became so angry that he decided to wipe out the whole mess and start over again. Enoch was Noahs grandpa, so this book for sure fills in the mystery & those knowledge gaps. Saint Christopher was a reprobate/giant and the Catholic church teaches his story. Nimrod was a nephalim (hybrid giant). David fought Goliath, a nephalim hybrid giant.

You are correct that we are not supposed to know any thing about them, or intermingle with the spirit world at all, but when you read the book and add it all up, the stories do make some sense. They had rage b/c God destroyed their wives and all their kids in the flood. So, their souls are injured and their hearts break, just like a humans.

After Jesus died and was buried, he descended into hell for three days according to the Aposles Creed;
which dates back to around 390 AD, over 300 years after the New Testament. We never do find out what was discussed or negotiated during those three days, but my guess is the fallen angels wanted to get back into heaven, or occupy earth, as both places are much better than Hell. Short of that, they wanted to prove to God that the inferior, simple humans would sin just as much in our earthly way as they did in their fallen angel way, and that we should occupy hell also if we sinned as much/more than them in our contingent. Isis was totally outraged (more than most demons) and deemed Heaven being unfair negotiations to them.Bible passages (for those of you who are solo scriptora people) that support the idea that Jesus descended into hell for the negotiations:1 Peter 3:18-20 , Acts 2:27 , Romans 10:6–7 , Ephesians 4:8–9 , 1 Peter 4:6
& Hebrews 13:11–12

Please note: I looked into this in middle age b/c I heard high schoolers discussing this info in detail. I asked how they know so much and it is from pop culture video games?! Tomb Raider, the Nephalim Saga, Ogre Battle, Fire Emblem, The Sleeper, Symphony of War- Remember, Lucifer took 33.3% (long play record size, lol) which were mostly the choir/band/orchestra, and preachers (Loki) as he was the chief choir director. They compose some of our hypnotic sounding spun gold addicting music here on earth. Other high school sources are the Harry Potter books and movies- which are hundreds of pages, detailing real spells and actual demons.

Lots of places to look for the hidden information, its every where.
 
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Just so you don't feel too bad for them... as most humans are truly empathetic.
God had to destroy them b/c they were destroying us totally, chapter 7 Enoch shows how sociopathic/perverted/cannibal the nephalim became:

[Chapter 7]

1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms 2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they 3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed 4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against 5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and 6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
 

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@Clout- you don't believe Jesus is God...You also don't think the Bible should be studied...
1- This gal got it right..:)-
Jesus said -"..whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"
She said to Him, "Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God" (John 11:26/27)


2- God himself said Jesus was his Son, so you'd better argue it out with him if you meet him-
"This is my beloved Son, listen to him" (Matthew 17:5)

3- The Old T contains interesting bits, but God sent Jesus to give us the NEW T, and people were wise enough to stay focussed on it..:)-
"Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith" (Hebrews 12:2)
 
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