Satan: Who is he?

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The great controversy between Christ and Satan, that has been carried forward for nearly six thousand years, is soon to close; and the wicked one redoubles his efforts to defeat the work of Christ in man's behalf and to fasten souls in his snares. To hold the people in darkness and impenitence till the Saviour's mediation is ended, and there is no longer a sacrifice for sin, is the object which he seeks to accomplish. Mar 130.3

When there is no special effort made to resist his power, when indifference prevails in the church and the world, Satan is not concerned; for he is in no danger of losing those whom he is leading captive at his will. But when the attention is called to eternal things, and souls are inquiring, “What must I do to be saved?” he is on the ground, seeking to match his power against the power of Christ.... He is in attendance when men assemble for the worship of God. Though hidden from sight, he is working with all diligence to control the minds of the worshipers. Mar 130.4

Satan can't destroy us because we are covered under the blood. The blood of Jesus never loses its power ever.
 
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We are our own worst enemy.

"Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. And even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained. And even in the best of all hearts, there remains ... an unuprooted small corner of evil." -- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
 

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This verse indicates that Satan likes to explore (sift) our minds to pick up on any character flaws that he can exploit-
Jesus said- “Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail" (Luke 22:31/32)
Below is a representation of Satan in Mel Gibson's 'The Passion', always lurking slyly in the background to monitor us-

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Satan can't destroy us because we are covered under the blood. The blood of Jesus never loses its power ever.
Nevertheless, Satan will never stop TRYING to destroy us, so we should keep our guard up at all times..:)
"Put on the full armour of God against the wiles of the devil" (Eph 6:11-18 )
 

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This book from 1972, fifty years ago. Joyce Meyer mentioned it in one of her conferences;

I found it at a garage sale in the 1990s but wasn't a 'conspiracy theorist' way back then, lol. For those of you who want to read it but don't want to support AMAZON, you can find it on ebay for super cheap
 

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"But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" -- Mark Twain
 

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You really should get past that "Us / Him" mindset.

People through finding something beautiful
Think something else unbeautiful,
Through finding one man fit
Judge another unfit.
Life and death, though stemming from each other, seem to conflict as stages of change,
Difficult and easy as phases of achievement,
Long and short as measures of contrast,
High and low as degrees of relation;
But, since the varying of tones gives music to a voice
And what is the was of what shall be,
The sanest man
Sets up no deed,
Lays down no law,
Takes everything that happens as it comes,
As something to animate, not to appropriate,
To earn, not to own,
To accept naturally without self-importance:
If you never assume importance
You never lose it.
-- Lao Tzu

If you want to get the plain truth,
Be not concerned with right and wrong.
The conflict between right and wrong
Is the sickness of the mind.
-- Sengtan, the third Zen Patriarch
 

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Satan will be punished in hellfire and will die eternally.

Hell was intended only for Satan and his angels. It was never intended for man. It's why God gave us Jesus to die for our sins so that who ever believes in Him will be saved. In order to gain the free gift of eternal life, we must be the one to accept it because love should not be forced, but a choice. We're given free will to choose for ourselves, whether for good or evil.

When and where will the devil receive his punishment? What will that punishment be?

“So it will be at the end of this age. The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire”
(Matthew 13:40-42).

“The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone” (Revelation 20:10).

“Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels” (Matthew 25:41).

“I brought fire from your midst; it devoured you, and I turned you to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all who saw you. … You … shall be no more forever” (Ezekiel 28:18-19).

At the end of the world, Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire, which will turn him into ashes and end his existence.

Answer: The devil will be cast into sin-destroying fire on this very earth at the end of the world. God will deal with the devil for his sin, for tempting others to sin, and for hurting and destroying the people God loves.

Note: It is not possible to adequately describe the anguish God will feel when Satan, His own creation, is cast into this fire. How painful this will be not only for those cast into the fire, but for the One who created them in love to begin with.
 

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Jesus has already defeated Satan on the cross and through Him we have the power to resist temptation and overcome evil.

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"But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" -- Mark Twain
Problem is, Satan thinks HE's in the right and that he doesn't need praying for, just as all nonchristians and atheists think THEY'RE in the right too..:)
 

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Problem is, Satan thinks HE's in the right and that he doesn't need praying for, just as all nonchristians and atheists think THEY'RE in the right too..:)
"Satan is nothing more than an anthropomorphic version of the concept of Evil. Good / Evil is a duality that has to be transcended. To look at life's situations as good or bad is simply a matter of perspective. Yes, every being in the universe thinks he's doing the right thing, even Hitler, even you. Jesus says forgive them for they know not what they do. Therefore, the only real sin is ignorance. Unfortunately, good intentions performed in ignorance will pave the road to our personal hells when those actions fail to respect Nature.

If you want to get the plain truth,
Be not concerned with right and wrong.
The conflict between right and wrong
Is the sickness of the mind.
-- Sengtan, the third Zen Patriarch

"The Tao(God/Nature) is not humane, it treats the 10,000 creatures (of which we are merely one) as straw dogs" (ie. expendable units). -- Lao Tzu
 

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1 Kings 10 : 14
Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold

Personally I've always found this verse symbolises the time period that Soloman threw away his faith in Father and started worshipping mammon (amongst other things). Its surely no coincidence that the weight of gold was 666 talents?
 
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People can argue about who they think Lucifer/Satan really is, or choose to believe the lie that he fomented that he doesn't exist, quoting people that Satan duped into writing such things.

The word "Satan" means "the Opposer"; i.e. the one who opposes God. He (Lucifer) also carries the title "the devil" because he is the inventor of lies.

It should be self-evident that all evil on this planet is centralized, organized and relentless. Anyone who has experienced a few decades of life here in hell (aka planet Earth) should immediately recognize that we are on a steadily accelerating march to new lows of moral depravity and insanity.

Satan's sphere of influence is very simple: he manipulates us through the ego/"self" (the flesh/human). A human can be tempted by treasure and pleasure (material wealth and addictions to food, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, sex, etc.) into doing Satan's bidding IF that individual places those worldly objects -- and the emotions they invoke -- above God (Truth, Love, Reason and Common-sense). We have to choose between mammon/materialism (evil/selfishness) and God (good/unselfishness - see: Matt. 6:24).

One of the greatest lies that Satan ever told was to Eve, when he said "in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil" (Gen. 3:5). It was an obvious lie because Adam and Eve were already "gods" (spiritual-Beings/Souls, created by God); that knew they were only temporarily placed inside a human body (Gen. 2:7), to learn how to be good (Gen. 1:26).

It was only after they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good AND evil that they became confused, no longer knowing the difference between the two and forgetting who and what they really are (spiritual-Beings, being taught by God). That is why they suddenly saw themselves as naked humans, instead of as spiritual-Beings temporarily clothed in a human body.

And Lucifer/Satan/Iblis (the devil/red dragon/serpent) has been conning people ever since into believing "they are only human after all" which is the oft-repeated mantra used to justify every selfish, thoughtless, clumsy word or act that humans are allowed to say or do, while we (the spiritual-Being) remain asleep.


Only those who overcome their "self" will break free of Satan's grip and survive to see a world without all of this selfishness and evil; a message and warning that is repeated throughout Scripture.
 
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Satan is a personification of a concept (Evill), nothing more . It's an Archetype of the human collective consciousness. Same with God (Good). But they are only separate in Duality. In Reality, they're 2 ends of the same spectrum like hot/cold, beauty/ugliness, etc.

People through finding something beautiful
Think something else unbeautiful,
Through finding one man fit
Judge another unfit.
Life and death, though stemming from each other, seem to conflict as stages of change,
Difficult and easy as phases of achievement,
Long and short as measures of contrast,
High and low as degrees of relation
-- Lao Tzu

If you want to get the plain truth,
Be not concerned with right and wrong.
The conflict between right and wrong
Is the sickness of the mind.
-- Sengtan, the third Zen Patriarch
 

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Satan is a personification of a concept (Evill), nothing more . It's an Archetype of the human collective consciousness. Same with God (Good). But they are only separate in Duality. In Reality, they're 2 ends of the same spectrum like hot/cold, beauty/ugliness, etc.

People through finding something beautiful
Think something else unbeautiful,
Through finding one man fit
Judge another unfit.
Life and death, though stemming from each other, seem to conflict as stages of change,
Difficult and easy as phases of achievement,
Long and short as measures of contrast,
High and low as degrees of relation
-- Lao Tzu

If you want to get the plain truth,
Be not concerned with right and wrong.
The conflict between right and wrong
Is the sickness of the mind.
-- Sengtan, the third Zen Patriarch
Each of us has been given the FREE-WILL to choose between what is good and evil, right and wrong.

Deuteronomy 30:15-20
30:15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
30:16 In that I command thee this day to love the "I AM" thy God, to walk in His Ways, and to keep His Commandments and His Statutes and His Judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the "I AM" thy God shall bless thee in the land where thou goest to possess it.
30:17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
30:18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, [and that] ye shall not prolong [your] days upon the land, where thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
30:20 That thou mayest love the "I AM" thy God, [and] that thou mayest obey His voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto Him: for He [is] thy Life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the "I AM" sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob/Israel, to give them.

Deuteronomy 12:8 Ye shall not do after all [the things] that we do here this day, every man whatsoever [is] right in his own eyes.

-- The King Ruler of the Universe, commonly referred to on Earth as "God"

In reality, good and evil are polar opposites, just as what is right and wrong in God's Eyes are polar opposites. It is up to each of us to awaken as our true, spiritual self to be able to differentiate between good and evil, right and wrong, truth and lies, unselfish and selfish, clean and unclean, etc. and then choose of our own free-will what is good, right, true, clean and unselfish over the alternatives.

To illustrate how stupid and satanic it is to take the words of "Sengtan, the third Zen Patriarch" -- which are actually the words Satan duped "Sengtan" into writing down -- and accept these obvious lies as truth, consider something as simple as murder.

Murder, which is a CRIME, is a form of theft. It is the taking of someone else's life UNLAWFULLY. Murder is always EVIL and WRONG. It is NEVER good or right.

It is a LIE to pretend there is nothing wrong with murder, or that there will be no consequences (karma) for committing murder, or that someone shouldn't be very concerned with the consequences (for both them and for their victim) of taking such an evil action that is clearly wrong. In reality, every single murderer will be severely punished for their CRIME. And contrary to what stupid, satanic "zen patriarchs" say, we won't be rewarded for being criminals, in this life or the next.

THAT is our TRUE Reality. Learn to choose what is good, true and right over what is evil, false and wrong that you may LIVE.

You cannot mix lies with truth and hope to be able to differentiate between the two, anymore than you can mix hemlock with water and hope not to be poisoned by drinking the concoction. Anyone who attempts to do so will die in their confusion, being misled by the very same individual who has duped them into believing he doesn't exist, and is only personified in the ego that he manipulates.
 
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