Christian viewpoints and "supporting israel"

Stucky

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As Christians who truly read and understand the scriptures, we already know how these things would play out. It does not really matter if one supports Israel or not, or if Israel get support from others or not...God is always in control and nothing happens to Israel without His permission, in fact, nothing happens in this world without His permission.
Ah so God gave hamas permission to attack and kill Israelis on Oct 7th and then gave Israel "permission" to commit a genocide in Gaza. Not only that, according to you and the crazies who love your post, God has given "permission" for every atrocity committed in the history of humanity including the Holocaust.

According to the crazies God gave Israel permission to do this,

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1721112196229353748?s=20

And this,

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1721222064009306245?s=20

and about 11 thousand more.

Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.

Galatians 6 vs 15&16


Here's a question for you crazies. Who are the Israel of God and if there's an Israel of God does it follow that there's an Israel that IS NOT of God and if so who is the Israel not of God?
 
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Ah so God gave hamas permission to attack and kill Israelis on Oct 7th and then gave Israel "permission" to commit a genocide in Gaza. Not only that, according to you and the crazies who love your post, God has given "permission" for every atrocity committed in the history of humanity including the Holocaust.

According to the crazies God gave Israel permission to do this,

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1721112196229353748?s=20

And this,

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1721222064009306245?s=20

and about 11 thousand more.
Seeing those dead children is absolutely heartbreaking.

I have to really wonder what is wrong with anyone who would rejoice over that. I keep asking myself, do other Christians just refuse to see the victims or are they aware but they just dont care?


That said, regarding God giving permission - not commanding* something, but allowing - if it is NOT the case of God giving permission for horrible things, then wouldn't the alternative be that satan is able to overpower God? How could God truly be all-powerful then?

I don't mean for this to sound as if i'm in favor of this slaughter, as i've said it's heartbreaking. It's awful. These people are in my prayers constantly.



* as He did throughout the Old Testament. While reading the Old Testament, it's really hard to stomach some of the things God not only allows, but commands. I've told myself that it was in the past, it was a more brutal time, He must have has His reasons, etc... and all the while telling myself that it is something that was done and was not to be repeated in modern times.

And then we get this monster netenyahu calling the Palestinians "amalekites" and i can't help but think some people fell for it, and DO believe the Old Testament must be repeated. I haven't listened to any sermons by zionist pastors since this war began, but gaging by the nonstop zionist propaganda on most non-leftist sources, i can only imagine how bad it is, the level of indoctrination.
 

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God works in mysterious ways-
So we could speculate that he engineered Hamas into attacking Israel so that the world would see Israel's murderous over-the-top response and hate Israel?
Is what is happening in Palestine not confirmation of Christ's description of them which say they are Jews but are NOT, but are the synagogue of Satan?

This should be a literal and physical revelation to everyone who has been duped into believing that these imposters are allegedly "God's Chosen people", when God has told us through His Christ that they are NOT Jews, nor even Semites, and have stolen the LAND of Israel from the TRUE people Israel.
 

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Seeing those dead children is absolutely heartbreaking.

I have to really wonder what is wrong with anyone who would rejoice over that. I keep asking myself, do other Christians just refuse to see the victims or are they aware but they just dont care?


That said, regarding God giving permission - not commanding* something, but allowing - if it is NOT the case of God giving permission for horrible things, then wouldn't the alternative be that satan is able to overpower God? How could God truly be all-powerful then?

I don't mean for this to sound as if i'm in favor of this slaughter, as i've said it's heartbreaking. It's awful. These people are in my prayers constantly.



* as He did throughout the Old Testament. While reading the Old Testament, it's really hard to stomach some of the things God not only allows, but commands. I've told myself that it was in the past, it was a more brutal time, He must have has His reasons, etc... and all the while telling myself that it is something that was done and was not to be repeated in modern times.

And then we get this monster netenyahu calling the Palestinians "amalekites" and i can't help but think some people fell for it, and DO believe the Old Testament must be repeated. I haven't listened to any sermons by zionist pastors since this war began, but gaging by the nonstop zionist propaganda on most non-leftist sources, i can only imagine how bad it is, the level of indoctrination.
God gave us all of the tools we require to maintain a PEACEFUL, free and prosperous society, where everyone loves one another and shares the things which God has given us.

God also gave us the gift of FREE-WILL, which He respects and has promised never to violate.

So the evil that we are seeing in Palestine today, committed by the AshkeNAZI counterfeit-Jews against the Palestinians in Gaza -- after and concurrent with the evil they have wrought in their actual homeland of Ukraine, by religiously cleansing Ukraine of the Ukrainian Christians living there -- is the direct result of our collective thoughts and actions, or lack thereof to stop all of this evil.

The ONLY Way to put an end to all of this evil -- and it is the ONLY Way -- is to return to The Law that God gave us, by keeping and enforcing His Law ONLY.

ALL of the puppet politicians that fill the corporate fictional governments of this world -- who have whored themselves out in support of the wars, destruction and devastation that the international banking cartel wants, to continue these atrocities in every country on Earth -- should be immediately held responsible for their complicit crimes and, according to God's Law, be lawfully executed. The same goes for ALL of the so-called religious leaders, who have divided the world up by their lucrative corporate fictional businesses to keep everyone fighting and dying "for God".

We were warned already roughly 3000 years ago, through God's Prophet Isaiah, that ALL of the worldly leaders are leading us to our destruction (Isa. 3:12) and yet very few if any have taken any notice. 3000 years of repeated warnings, to help us choose to do the right thing according to God and get rid of all of these extremely evil people, is not only very fair, but also extremely patient, loving and long-suffering, that we might finally come to our senses.

It is our collective complacency in not putting these rabid dogs down, and thus put out evil from among us as we have been COMMANDED to do, that has brought about the slaughter of the children in Gaza. And even at this very late hour, when everyone should be able to clearly see that this is NOT right and that we are very obviously going in the WRONG direction, there are still extremely evil people supporting obvious evil and cheerleading us into WW3, as if God wants the entire world to be at each other's throats, to fight over the things that He gave us to do GOOD with, rather than evil.

Every single "Zionist", whether a "Christian Zionist" or a FAKE Jew or one of the architects of this evil, genocidal plan for total global domination, WILL find themselves in The Fire on Judgment Day unless they turn from their evil ways, also exactly as we have been repeatedly warned for thousands of years.

This isn't a personal opinion, nor a personal judgment, nor is it some sort of self-righteous claim to be personally saved; it is a simple statement of fact.

Lucifer/Satan/Iblis and ALL of his ardent, arrogant and stiff-necked followers, are going to burn. It doesn't matter whether they copulate against the "wailing wall" during "Shavout" or whether they say "I believe in Jesus" or whether they chant "Allahu Akbar" five times a day, all of us had better get it straight in our minds that we have ALL been deceived, and need to stop this insanity NOW, if not sooner.

Anyone who isn't striving with all of their heart, mind, soul and strength to DO God's Will, which NEVER involves stealing from or murdering one another, is nothing more than fuel for The Fire, rather they believe otherwise or not.
 
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What NEEDS to be understood about terminology and language:-

The reason it says in Scripture that no lawyer (scribe) or politician (pharisee) will enter the Kingdom of heaven, is because they have manipulated and deceived the people by redefining common terms to defraud and steal from them.

The word "Zion" is another name for Jerusalem (City of Peace), which is mentioned in the Bible OVER 800 TIMES (and over 100 times more as Zion, as well as indirectly at least 28 more times in the Koran, IF it's properly read and understood). It's where God said He put His Name, His House and where His Servants are instructed to pray towards.

"Zionists" (Ashkenazis and Idumean Edomites) have STOLEN the name and used that name to plan the murder of over 90% of the world's population, in their vain efforts to achieve total global domination for their master Satan.

They have likewise STOLEN the name "Israel", which means "Champion of God". People that do the exact opposite of what God COMMANDS cannot be Israelites, NOT in the true sense of the word.

Further, the AshkeNAZIs have stolen the land of Israel, to form their counterfeit-Jewish state in the Middle East, despite having NO Biblical right to even one square inch of that land, where they never previously lived.
 
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do other Christians just refuse to see the victims or are they aware but they just dont care?
Both. e-Enoch's thread shows very little to no bodies being pulled from the rubble. That thread is completely ignorant to what is happening. Of the ones who do know what has been happening they just soothe their conscience by claiming "God gave his permission" for it to happen so it's all good. When not that they'll claim it's prophecy being fulfilled. They use the Bible in a similar way to the KKK...

if it is NOT the case of God giving permission for horrible things, then wouldn't the alternative be that satan is able to overpower God? How could God truly be all-powerful then?
No there's a third more scary alternative. The leaders doing this are just evil. God never gave permission and Satan didn't need to tempt them...



 

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No there's a third more scary alternative. The leaders doing this are just evil. God never gave permission and Satan didn't need to tempt them...
The reality is everything has / needs God's permission. You can not lift your fingers to type a post without it. But we need to remember this life is a test.

We will certainly test you with a touch of fear and famine and loss of property, life, and crops. Give good news to those who patiently endure
(2:155 Quran)


Be assured justice is coming for all.

Do not think that Allah is unaware of what the wrongdoers do.
He only delays them until a Day when their eyes will stare in horror (14:42 Quran)
 

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It's kinda crazy when you think about it. Imagine if my name was George.

I meet some dude on the street and he asks my name. I say I'm George.

Suddenly, his eyes light up as he kisses the ground at my feet. Says his name is Mike, and he says I’m referenced in his holy book, and he thinks I should be highly honored. So, I smile, wave and walk away.

A day or so later, I stop in a gas station, noticing I forgot my wallet, I threaten the guy behind the counter with a gun that he better let me leave with my purchase. As I'm walking out the door, I see Mike. I wave and he smiles and waves back.

As I'm walking down the street a few days later, I see a small dog and I hate small dogs, so I kick it really hard! As I look up I see Mike about 10 feet in front of me, he smiles and waves and I wave back.

Later on, I'm sitting on a bench, reading my book. An old man sits next to me, which I find extremely annoying. So I throw him an elbow right in the chest and push him on the ground. Making it clear I value my personal space!

All of a sudden, my friend Mike walls up. I acknowledge him and say hello. Mike says I'm the greatest person he's ever known and tells me if I ever need something, he is at my beck and call.

I nod, tell him thanks and walk away.


Should I continue this "story" or has the point come across? We are talking about a 75-year ongoing brutal occupation. Where people (with Christians among them), are raped, beaten and killed. If they are lucky enough to survive, they are forced to live in a concentration camp where 90% of the water is undrinkable. No food, no electricity!

Now look around you and see all the Mikes we have at VC.

Truly and openly evil, committing daily war crimes, and more than a few here are asking for George's autograph.

Why? Because he said his name was George. And George is in your holy book.

What's it like to worship the antichrist? You tell me.
 

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My name's Mick, I'm a christian and don't support Israel because they're a nation of murderers because they killed Jesus and they're thieves because they stole Palestine..:)
 

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My name's Mick, I'm a christian and don't support Israel because they're a nation of murderers because they killed Jesus and they're thieves because they stole Palestine..:)
One day you do, the next day you don't.

But the post was more for the people who are openly pro-Stockholm Syndrome. Like Toki, Red, Enoch.
 

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Silence is compliance. Why do you support satan on earth?

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15-second video if you want to see a cat suffer.
 
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Religious leaders have answered the call for "Season 2"....imagine the magnitude of their duplicity if they promoted the vaxx and didn't line up to get the shots themselves.

Franklin Graham and his "Covid gospel"
‘Unprecedented’: Reverend Franklin Graham explains why he stands with Israel

Robert Jeffress

He was at the dedication of the embassy so that says alot about his support for Israel and adamant about military vaxx mandates
 
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