A Freeman
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I will post and discuss whatever Father (God) has me post and discuss to share with others how The Way home or face The Fire by JAH lines up PERFECTLY with Scriptures.@A Freeman, I am not going to start the usual theological debates that are part of many other threads.
The thread's goal is examine what "The way home or face the fire" actually says and compare it what the the bible/ quran says.
You advertise the book persistently.
No, it is the Truth from Scripture (Matthew 24:27-31; Luke 17:37; Rev. 1:7), which has absolutely nothing to do with organized religions that are condemned throughout Scripture. That is why it's possible for me to cite Scripture and for you to only give your(?) opinions.That belief is unique to your religion.
There is nothing deceptive in The Way home or face The Fire, which has hundreds of cross-references in it to Scripture, including to the verse in question, so that all can read it in its entirety. And aren't you doing far worse with your alleged examination, which routinely offers ZERO Scriptural evidence for any of your so-called opinions. What do you call someone that accuses others of doing what they are actually doing? A hypocrite perhaps?Quoting a fraction of a verse to support a brand new doctrine is incredibly deceptive.
Matthew 11:25- At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
And Christ, the Saviour is the same yesterday as He is today, and forever.Yes, Jesus Christ said that.
And your totally faulty reasoning and false accusation has already been exposed, with a detailed explanation provided, which you've again chosen to ignore. Just as you ignore the Scripture, e.g. that there couldn't be a "last Adam" if there wasn't more than one Adam.This is what I typed:
3:7 All the evil angels/Jinns (you), except Lucifer (Iblis) himself, CHOSE to submit to being locked inside of Adams and Eves,
making human+beings
Note Adams and Eves are PLURAL.
AJH proves beyond all doubt he does not believe in the Book of Genesis there.
. Adam was the first man. Eve was the first woman.
AJH claims there were Adams i.e. men [plural]. Eves i.e. women [plural]
It is YOU who are proving you don't believe the book of Genesis, or any of the other books of the Bible, choosing instead to believe your anti-Biblical viewpoints, just like Eve did (and all Eves have subsequently followed in her footsteps).
1 Timothy 2:11-14
2:11 Let the woman learn in SILENCE with all subjection.
2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to USURP authority over the man, but TO BE IN SILENCE.
2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
The "woman" being Eve. So referring to male humans as "Adams" and female humans as "Eves" is clearly Scriptural. What you are deceitfully trying to do is to con others into believing the LIE that there were two Adamic lines, which is NOT what was being said at all. Shame on you.
That is your(?) satanic opinion which, as always, has no basis in reality. The Book of Revelation draws from the rest of Scripture, and also REVEALS some additional descriptions about our history -- including the creation story -- and of the prophecies found elsewhere in Scripture (hence its name - Revelation)., Revelation is last book of the bible. Genesis is the first.
It has nothing to do with the Creation story.
Here is a very simple example of this:
In Revelation 17:15 we find the following definition of "waters", which may be applied throughout Scripture, where valid (and also previously stated in Isaiah 17:12-13).
Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The "waters" which thou sawest, where the "Whore" sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Where do we find "waters" in the Creation story? In the very first chapter of Genesis, on the second day.
Genesis 1:6-8
1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.
1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the Second Day.
So we are literally told that God made Heaven, and that Heaven (aka the firmament) divided the "waters" above Heaven from the "waters" under Heaven. So, unless you believe that there are rivers, lakes, streams, etc. running around in Heaven, and that God needed to divide those from each other, none of which makes any sense, then the "waters" being referred to MUST be the people.
And that is exactly what those "waters" are, where two-thirds of the people (in Heaven) were divided from the other third (here on Earth).
Revelation 12:3-4
12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
12:4 And his tale (of lies - John 8:35) drew the third part of the "Stars" (ch. 9:1) of heaven (into his army), and did (cause them to be) cast to the Earth (for their treason against God): and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born (Christ - Second Coming).
Revelation 12:7-9
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the Earth, and his angels (you - Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).
12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and The Kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their (human) lives unto the death (John 12:25).
So, if anyone was taking notice, they would see that the Creation story in Genesis is telling us the exact same thing we are told in Revelation. There would otherwise be no need to divide the "waters" leaving some in above and some under the Heavens if it wasn't for the war that got all of us sent here.
And, similarly, there would be no reason to create the humans, if not to subject us all to human limitations, so that we could be taught and tested how to be good, like the other two-thirds (Gen. 1:26).
Agreed. It's something that Christ NEVER does, but it is something that you have done repeatedly on this forum, as has been pointed out to you now on numerous occasions.Lying by omission/ confusion is just as bad as open lying.
Glad to hear it.FINALLY something you and I agree upon.
Are you asking so that you can try to find fault with whatever is provided or because you haven't done your homework please?Which search engines do you refer to?
Hopefully you can learn from that experience that anger (which is a form of fear) is always counterproductive, as are all human emotions. Particularly given your outright hatred toward Christ, which blinds you to the Truth.And I showed why I had typed that out of anger on one occasion.