Are medicines permitted by God (according the REAL bible)

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Because I read about JAH Truth on this thread I went to the website last night. Believe it or not this guy thinks the Star Wars movies are real and that God wrote them. Also he believes Yoda is real. Go to website and look under movies if anyone doesn't believe me. I think at one time JAH took large amounts of LSD and is possibly out of his tree.
You can see now why I fight against it. I thought I had a good idea of how AJH had made a patchwork quilt of opposing religions, so I was trying to prevent Christians for falling for his fake religion and fake bible.
I was wrong. A Freeman this thread has shown that was just the tip of the iceberg.

I know it is hard to believe, but I am not naturally an argumentative creature. I won't put up with nonsense though, and the JAHtruth religion sounds as rational as the Heaven's Gates cult now.

On top of that ufology and Star Wars religion stuff, he actually has followers who on Gibraltar messenger forum have typed to King Charles III, BEGGING him to hand over the
throne to AJH on the 23rd April.
too! Of course A.Freeman is in the middle of it all.
 

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Her name is Beth and she has a website and YouTube channel called The Other Side of Darkness. She is an ex witch who claims her parents were satanists who molested her almost from birth and conducted satanic rituals with her. It is really strange stuff but I think she is sincere. You can still see pentagram tattoo on her arm from when she was witch and she addressed why it is still there in one episode. Also in one episode she started speaking in tongues which was kind of frightening.
I am saying upfront I have become "a tongues is not for today"(except in very rare circumstances) believer unlike Red.
In the past I have heard people tell me about others they knew speaking in tongues, and they were heard by foreigners hearing them in their native tongue, praising Jesus.
I have read accounts of where people heard who they thought were Christians blaspheming God or praising Satan.
I have also seen a video where a Christian man was filmed praying in tongues, but a specialist analysed it and said it was babble, and showed no pattern that languages naturally have.
Therefore my position has become "approach with caution" and look at the FRUIT of the tongues and what the person actually teaches.
If the person teaches the Gospel and essential Christian beliefs, if they are showing good fruit/ character, if they appear to be a mature Christian then that is what is important.
If all a person does is speak in tongues convincingly but they speak heresy, they have had no change in lifestyle, if they continue to sin unrepentantly, you should not assume they even are a Christian.
 

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I am saying upfront I have become "a tongues is not for today"(except in very rare circumstances) believer unlike Red.
In the past I have heard people tell me about others they knew speaking in tongues, and they were heard by foreigners hearing them in their native tongue, praising Jesus.
I have read accounts of where people heard who they thought were Christians blaspheming God or praising Satan.
I have also seen a video where a Christian man was filmed praying in tongues, but a specialist analysed it and said it was babble, and showed no pattern that languages naturally have.
Therefore my position has become "approach with caution" and look at the FRUIT of the tongues and what the person actually teaches.
If the person teaches the Gospel and essential Christian beliefs, if they are showing good fruit/ character, if they appear to be a mature Christian then that is what is important.
If all a person does is speak in tongues convincingly but they speak heresy, they have had no change in lifestyle, if they continue to sin unrepentantly, you should not assume they even are a Christian.
Which leads me to perhaps my favourite chapter in the Bible, which puts it all in perspective:

The Greatest Gift

13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.

4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

8 Love never fails. But whether they’re are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether they’re is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
 

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From: https://naturalsociety.com/9-reasons-refuse-antibiotics-dangers-side-effects/ -
(a mainstream article that at least looks at the negative direct ill-effects that antibiotics have on the human body)

Read This before You Pop Another Big Pharma Antibiotic

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A study published by Mayo Clinic found that almost 70% of Americans are on at least one pharmaceutical; antibiotics top the list, followed by antidepressants, and opioid pain killers. This is a problem in of itself, as it the United States has transformed into a pill-popping, medication-dependent nation. What’s worse is that antibiotics in particular are doled out in copious, unnecessary amounts, so much so that bacteria are developing major resistance to this conventional treatment. This is now a potential danger of antibiotics, and a serious grand-scale side effect of antibiotic use.

Even the WHO is calling this resistance a global health crisis, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that the age of antibiotics must come to an end. That is the first reason to avoid antibiotic use.


While antibiotics have helped greatly with modern medicine, it seems that we need to start looking for alternative solutions. Here are 9 more compelling reasons to just say no to antibiotics.


9 More Reasons to Refuse Antibiotics
2. IBD (Inflammatory Bowel Disease)
According to a 2011 article published by Fox News, a scientific link has been established between antibiotic use and colitis. Antibiotic-induced colitis is caused by the toxins exuded by the bacterium Clostridium difficile following antibiotic treatment. While the majority of other intestinal bacteria have been killed off by the antibiotic, Clostridium difficile grows rapidly and releases toxins that damage the intestinal wall.

In fact, Crohn’s disease which has spread epidemic like over the past 50 years parallels the introduction and widespread use of antibiotics. There’s even a theory postulated by a couple of German scientists that Crohn’s is actually the mutation created from normal gut bacteria by antibiotics.

3. Liver Damage
A new study published in the journal Gastroenterology found that although all types of prescription drugs are linked to liver damage, antibiotics in particular were the worst offenders – the drug class most likely to cause serious harm to the liver. John Gever, Senior Editor of MedPage Today reported one researcher stating, “antimicrobial agents are the most common cause of drug-induced liver failure, with most cases ending in death or transplant.”

4. Cancer Link
One study found that those who had taken 6 or more antibiotic prescriptions had a 1.5 times greater risk of less common cancers compared with study participants who had the lowest antibiotic exposure.

Taking some antibiotics may slightly increase the risk of developing colon cancer, one study suggests. After controlling for known risk factors for colorectal cancer including obesity, diabetes, smoking, and alcohol, researchers found that those who had taken antibiotics, including penicillins, quinolones, and metronidazole, were 8 to 11% more likely to develop colorectal cancer.

A 2008 study in the International Journal of Cancer reported “the use of antibiotics was associated with an increased risk of cancer.”

5. AIDS
Perhaps it is no accident that the same group with the highest incidence of so called AIDS (view the video: “House of Numbers”) is also the group that uses more antibiotics than any other group in America.

6. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Repeated antibiotic use has been linked with chronic viral illness, including chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS). About.com reports:


7. Possible Fungal and Bacterial Overgrowths
Antibiotic use triggers the release of endotoxins (toxins produced within the body), which suppress the immune system. They destroy the “communication pathways between cells of the immune system”

Homestead.com explains, “Without these pathways in operation, immune cells don’t attack. Healthy gut flora supports immune function but does not replace those communication pathways.”

8. Recurring Infections
It is a myth that antibiotics are responsible for any decline in infectious disease. While antibiotics are helpful for many infections, they have not resulted in the elimination of infectious diseases by themselves.

In the book Beyond Antibiotics, authors use graphs to trace the incidence of the major infectious diseases from 1900 to 1973. All diseases researched were in decline for several decades before the introduction of antibiotics or vaccines. After reviewing the data, researchers John McKinlay and Sonja McKinlay concluded that “.. at most, 3.5% of the total decline in mortality since 1900 could be ascribed to medical measures introduced for the diseases considered here.” Improved nutrition and improved sanitation and hygiene were far more important than the ‘wonder drugs’ or vaccines to reduce these diseases.

Some research has revealed that those treated with antibiotics succumb to recurring infections more frequently than those who do not use antibiotics. For example, children with ear infections who are prescribed antibiotics routinely suffer from repeat infections. Of course there is always the possibility that children taking these antibiotics frequently for infections would suffer from the infections anyway, and that the antibiotics aren’t causing them to happen.


However, since antibiotics are in fact creating unstoppable bacteria, they are now somewhat responsible.

9. Weakened Immune System
Peter J. D’Adamo, ND, is a naturopathic physician and author known for his pioneering research on the interconnectedness of human blood groups, lifestyle, nutrition, and health.

Dr. D’Adamo explained:


In other words, the “invaders” are getting stronger, but our immune systems are less prepared to handle them. Antibiotics suppress the immune system, as opposed to merely assisting it to do its job more effectively. In fact, antibiotics “cut off immune response.” They can reduce the level of infection, but they cannot eradicate it; only the immune system can do that.

10. Mitochondrial Damage
Pharmaceuticals are a major cause of mitochondrial damage, including statin medications, analgesics such as acetaminophen, antibiotics, and many others. Structurally, mitochondria are essentially modified bacteria. Antibiotics indiscriminately target bacteria. Mitochondrial disorders commonly manifest as neurological disorders, for example, neuropathy.
There is a big difference between over-use of drugs, especially antibiotics (that pharmaceutical companies have done their best to get big $$$$$)....
and prescribing a medication when a patient genuinely needs it to get cured/ improve quality of life.
Rational people can see that. Cultists cannot.
 

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Nah... you pulled it out of context.
Several sources have already been shared. Some here:-

The jist--> even when Asa was dying, he STILL didn't call out to God. 2 Chronicles 2
https://biblehub.com/esv/2_chronicles/16.htm
Asa was actually one of the better kings of Israel, destroying the churches and their idols and returning the people back to The Law.

2 Chronicles 14:1-5
14:1 So Abijah slept with his fathers, and they buried him in the city of David: and Asa his son reigned in his stead. In his days the land was quiet ten years.
14:2 And Asa did [that which was] good and right in the eyes of the "I AM" his God:
14:3 For he took away the altars of the strange [gods], and the high places, and broke down the images, and cut down the groves:
14:4 And commanded Judah to seek the "I AM" God of their fathers, and to do The Law and the Commandment.
14:5 Also he took away out of all the cities of Judah the high places and the images: and the kingdom was quiet before him.

So what's important to note in 2 Chronicles 16:12-13 is that when Asa was faced with an illness, he chose the physicians instead of Father, and died.

Most people here are already justifiably leery of modern medicine.
Why then are most of them attacking the evidence that modern medicine is actually crippling and killing millions upon millions (soon to be billions more) as well as attacking any messenger delivering that truth?

You are painting a very different picture, though, and it isn't about the dangers of modern medicine-- which are getting worse.
Actually that is exactly what this is about. Roughly one-third of the population has yet to be injected, and thus still has hope. This is going to get much worse, and t.h.e.y. will be coming after those who haven't taken their lethal injection yet. So why not help me reach out to those people to help warn them?

You're using it as an excuse to convince people they should allow themselves and their children to die (needlessly), so they don't pollute the gene pool-- so the strong can thrive.
That is what humans are reading into the truth that's being shared, and having an emotional reaction to it. The entire point to everything that's been shared is to expose the insanity of the chemical-pharmaceutical-medical industrial complex (med-complex for short). The overwhelming majority of what is being done in the name of "science" and "medicine" is what is causing untold amounts of needless pain, suffering and death.

The med-complex created an extremely lucrative business out of the alleged need for all of the drugs and vaccines based upon its fatally flawed germ and contagion hypothesis.

The med-complex performs numerous unnecessary surgeries and procedures which are likewise very profitable.

The med-complex performs numerous abortions every year, which are not only unnecessary, but criminal.

The med-complex at the very same time attempts to deliver babies surgically, prematurely and frequently for extremely questionable reasons, knowing that the premature babies are very likely to have lifelong medical problems, needless pain and suffering and frequently early deaths.

The med-complex administers totally unnecessary drugs and vaccines, which cripples and murders some, and makes lifelong drug addicts out of others.

We then fill up nursing homes with the elderly and sickly so that we can feed them often times dozens of pills every day for the last few months or years of their lives, again to maximize profits and human suffering at the same time.

None of this serves God's Will for us. If someone wants to look at that lengthy list and instead of seeing the insanity of what we're doing -- and share it with other so that they can avoid being put through the totally needless pain, suffering and death that WILL result from placing one's trust in that evil system instead of in Father -- tries to blame all of this on those exposing these crimes, then they are clearly not seeing the situation correctly.

The reason Gates, Soros, Fauci, etc. can sell their poisonous drugs and vaccines is precisely because too many still place their trust in these individuals, and apparently will continue to do so, even when the death toll starts to rise dramatically in the coming months. It's already horrible and only getting worse.

There is no biblical basis for this.
You've already tried unsuccessfully to make this claim previously:-

And... you're making (another) false god out of Nature, in the process.
By placing Father ABOVE nature, which He created? How can advocating people place their faith in Father, instead of in "science" and pharmacy/"medicine", which manipulates nature, possibly be looked at as trying to make a false god out of nature?
 

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Because I read about JAH Truth on this thread I went to the website last night. Believe it or not this guy thinks the Star Wars movies are real and that God wrote them. Also he believes Yoda is real. Go to website and look under movies if anyone doesn't believe me. I think at one time JAH took large amounts of LSD and is possibly out of his tree.
Star Wars is a MOVIE series that has spiritual messages in it, just other films and song lyrics sometimes do.

Revelation 12:7-9
12:7 AND THERE WAS WAR IN HEAVEN: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the Earth, and his angels (you - Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).

God can and does send us spiritual messages through our natural surroundings, through others, through Scripture, and even through films and song lyrics.

Instead of looking for God in churches, etc., where He said He doesn't dwell (Acts 7:48; 17:24), why shouldn't people be looking for Him EVERYWHERE, and in EVERYTHING?

IF people were doing that, Satan wouldn't have been able to con two-thirds of the global population into accepting a lethal injection with no knowledge whatsoever of its contents.
 

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p.s. @JoChris - I read this on Facebook and thought it was very good with reference to @Lizard King ‘s question and obliquely to the legalism being promoted by some…

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How does the thief on the cross fit into your theology?

No baptism, no communion, no confirmation, no speaking in tongues, no mission trip, no volunteerism, no financial gifts, and no church clothes. He couldn't even bend his knees to pray. He didn't say the sinner's prayer and among other things, he was a thief. Jesus didn't take way his pain, heal his body, or smite his scoffers. Yet, it was a thief who walked into paradise the same hour as Jesus simply by BELIEVING.

He had nothing more to offer other than his belief that Jesus was who He said He was. No spin from brilliant theologians. No ego or arrogance. No shiny lights, skinny jeans, or crafty words. No fog machine, donuts, or coffee in the lobby. Just a naked dying man on a cross unable to even fold his hands to pray. “For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son so that whoever BELIEVES in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16) That is the good news of the Gospel!
 

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Star Wars is a MOVIE series that has spiritual messages in it, just other films and song lyrics sometimes do.
Why does AJH think it is OK to take spiritual i.e. religious messages from other religions and songs?
He is so contradictory about his belief systems.

IF people were doing that, Satan wouldn't have been able to con two-thirds of the global population into accepting a lethal injection with no knowledge whatsoever of its contents.
Where in the bible does it say that SATAN is going to make people have "a lethal injection"?
 

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[If anyone reads my entry, don't zone out like always when you realise it is AJH's book "The way home or face the fire"! Please take the time to read following quotes.]

A Freeman:
I have a slightly off-topic question. I woke up and had a quiet thought "I don't want to go to church today" and it nagged me on and off, with negative feelings as well. Was I hearing God, or was I hearing Satan?

I did a simple keyword search for "listen":

From AJH's book :
3:56 Many of you say, “Why doesn’t God talk to ME?” He does! To each and every one of you, but YOU don’t LISTEN to Him.
3:57 YOUR real conscience is YOU, and what you decide to do in a test. When Satan tempts you, and God tells you, with His good voice, NOT to do what he says, and that what Satan says is wrong, what you then decide to do, is your conscience...

3:69 To do that, you must ask yourself, 24 hours a day, in every situation, what would Jesus do; say; or think, in this situation? Then, before doing; saying or thinking anything, you must wait and listen for, and to, the good voice, then go forwards, guided and protected, to victory.

3:90 Ask Him privately, with thoughts, not words, and listen for His reply in your mind. Also ask Him to revitalize your Holy-Spirit, and reinforce it. Ask Him to come inside you, and give you the strength, to be able to do His Will and overcome Satan, by teaching you how to use “The Force”.

5:1 The world became so evil, because people listened to Satan, instead of to God....

9:66 When are you going to stop listening to people’s words about me, and listen to MY words and follow MY teaching instead, as you should be doing?

9:97 Stay away from priests, with their silly clothes and rituals. Talk to God privately, and listen to Him and do His Will, and NOT your own. No “Self”-will, ONLY God’s Will.

11:49 You do not need synagogues/churches/mosques, etc.; every human+being is a church. Churches (buildings) were only built, as a place of shelter, from the sun, or the rain, etc., or from screaming children, so that you could go, and be at peace, and be able to concentrate on talking to God, and on listening for His telepathic reply.

13:3 YOU have made the world the way it is now, by ignoring God, and listening to Satan, and God has ALWAYS told you, each and EVERY one of you, that you were doing wrong, using His good voice, inside your head.
 

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"Christians" wrongly assume that paradise is heaven when the two are clearly two different places.

To the thief on the cross next to Jesus:-
Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

"Christians" wrongly assume that they will go to heaven after a lifetime of doing whatever they believe to be right (Deut. 12:8) INSTEAD of believing and doing as Christ (The Word) COMMANDS.

To everyone here on Earth:-
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of Man which is from heaven.

"Christians" wrongly assume that one thief was "saved", i.e. went to heaven with Jesus the very same day they were both crucified, because they don't believe God's Son (Christ) or do as He says.

Three days and three nights later, Jesus still had not ascended to Father (God), which art in heaven.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God.

Matthew 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy name.

The reason "Christians" use words like "legalism" is so they can continue believing in their erroneous assumptions (illusions/lies) and doing whatever they want, instead of believing The Word of God and DOING what He COMMANDS.

IF people did as Christ (The Word of God - written or in the flesh) COMMANDS, they would be keeping The Law/Commandments, which was given to us to protect us from all of this evil (including pharmacy and all other forms of idolatry) and to set us free.
 

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Why does AJH think it is OK to take spiritual i.e. religious messages from other religions and songs?
He is so contradictory about his belief systems.
Why do you assume that it isn't YOU who espouse contradictory beliefs? Why shouldn't we all be looking for the GOOD (God IS Good) everywhere God dwells, in everyone and everything?

How else, other than through God, can any of us learn to truly differentiate between good and evil?

Where in the bible does it say that SATAN is going to make people have "a lethal injection"?
Revelation 14:9-11
14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and its image, and receive [its] mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the Wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of His indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and its image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of its name.

When people's minds (foreheads) are filled with nothing but worshiping the creature/beast and doing (with their hands) whatever the beast system tells them to do, they can and will be deceived into doing whatever Satan tells them to do.

Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the Earth; for by thy sorceries (pharmakeia) were all nations DECEIVED.


Are we not similarly warned that two-thirds of the global population will take the mark of the beast without question or pause, exactly as has happened with the lethal injection, aka "the jab", aka the Covid-19 vaccination?

Zechariah 13:8-9
13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in ALL the land, saith the "I AM", two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will test them as gold is tested: they shall call on My name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is My people: and they shall say, The "I AM" is my God.
 

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Widening the lens a little,
"Christians" wrongly assume that paradise is heaven when the two are clearly two different places.
Before the Resurrection, Paradise was where the believing saints went, the unbelieving ones went to another part of Sheol.

The story of the Rich Man and Lazarus alludes to it.

What is the difference between Sheol, Hades, Hell, the lake of fire, Paradise, and Abraham’s bosom?

ANSWER

The different terms used in the Bible for heaven and hell—sheol, hades, gehenna, the lake of fire, paradise, and Abraham’s bosom—are the subject of much debate and can be confusing.



The word paradise is used as a synonym for heaven(2 Corinthians 12:3–4; Revelation 2:7). When Jesus was dying on the cross and one of the thieves being crucified with Him asked Him for mercy, Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43). Jesus knew that His death was imminent and that He would soon be in heaven with His Father. In His words of comfort to the penitent thief, Jesus used paradise as a synonym for heaven, and the word has come to be associated with any place of ideal loveliness and delight.

Abraham’s bosom is referred to only once in the Bible—in the story of Lazarus and the rich man (Luke 16:19–31). Abraham’s lap was used in the Talmud as a synonym for heaven (Seder Nashim, Kiddushin 72b). The image in the story is of Lazarus reclining at a table leaning on Abraham’s breast—as John leaned on Jesus’ breast at the Last Supper—at the heavenly banquet. The point of the story is that wicked men will see the righteous in a happy state, while they themselves are in torment, and that a “great gulf” that can never be spanned exists between them (Luke 16:26). Abraham’s bosom is obviously a place of peace, rest, and joy—in other words, paradise.

In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent to sheol is hades, which is also a general reference to “the place of the dead.” The Greek word gehenna is used in the New Testament for “hell” and is derived from the Hebrew word hinnom. Other passages in the New Testament indicated that sheol/hades is a temporary place where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection. The souls of the righteous, at death, go directly into the presence of God—the part of sheol called “heaven,” “paradise,” or “Abraham’s bosom” (Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:23).

The lake of fire, mentioned only in Revelation 19:20and 20:10, 14-15, is the final hell, the place of eternal punishment for all unrepentant rebels, both angelic and human (Matthew 25:41). It is described as a place of burning sulfur, and those in it experience eternal, unspeakable agony of an unrelenting nature (Luke 16:24; Mark 9:45-46). Those who have rejected Christ and are in the temporary abode of the dead in hades/sheol have the lake of fire as their final destination.

But those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life should have no fear of this terrible fate. By faith in Christ and His blood shed on the cross for our sins, we are destined to live eternally in the presence of God.

 

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[If anyone reads my entry, don't zone out like always when you realise it is AJH's book "The way home or face the fire"! Please take the time to read following quotes.]

A Freeman:
I have a slightly off-topic question. I woke up and had a quiet thought "I don't want to go to church today" and it nagged me on and off, with negative feelings as well. Was I hearing God, or was I hearing Satan?

I did a simple keyword search for "listen":

From AJH's book :
3:56 Many of you say, “Why doesn’t God talk to ME?” He does! To each and every one of you, but YOU don’t LISTEN to Him.
3:57 YOUR real conscience is YOU, and what you decide to do in a test. When Satan tempts you, and God tells you, with His good voice, NOT to do what he says, and that what Satan says is wrong, what you then decide to do, is your conscience...

3:69 To do that, you must ask yourself, 24 hours a day, in every situation, what would Jesus do; say; or think, in this situation? Then, before doing; saying or thinking anything, you must wait and listen for, and to, the good voice, then go forwards, guided and protected, to victory.

3:90 Ask Him privately, with thoughts, not words, and listen for His reply in your mind. Also ask Him to revitalize your Holy-Spirit, and reinforce it. Ask Him to come inside you, and give you the strength, to be able to do His Will and overcome Satan, by teaching you how to use “The Force”.

5:1 The world became so evil, because people listened to Satan, instead of to God....

9:66 When are you going to stop listening to people’s words about me, and listen to MY words and follow MY teaching instead, as you should be doing?

9:97 Stay away from priests, with their silly clothes and rituals. Talk to God privately, and listen to Him and do His Will, and NOT your own. No “Self”-will, ONLY God’s Will.

11:49 You do not need synagogues/churches/mosques, etc.; every human+being is a church. Churches (buildings) were only built, as a place of shelter, from the sun, or the rain, etc., or from screaming children, so that you could go, and be at peace, and be able to concentrate on talking to God, and on listening for His telepathic reply.

13:3 YOU have made the world the way it is now, by ignoring God, and listening to Satan, and God has ALWAYS told you, each and EVERY one of you, that you were doing wrong, using His good voice, inside your head.
Christ said only heathens and hypocrites go to church (where God does NOT dwell - Acts 7:48; 17:24), to be seen by others (Matt. 6:5-8). That was 2000 years ago. How could anyone still be so confused about how and where to seek God's Guidance, unless their minds are filled with nothing but worshiping the beast/creature, instead of the Creator?
 

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Widening the lens a little,
Matthew 7:13-14
7:13 Enter ye in at the "Strait" gate: for wide [is] the gate, and BROAD [is] the way, that leadeth to DESTRUCTION, and many there be which go in thereat:
7:14 Because Strait [is] the gate, and NARROW [is] The Way, which leadeth unto Life, and few there be that find it.

Before the Resurrection, Paradise was where the believing saints went, the unbelieving ones went to another part of Sheol.

The story of the Rich Man and Lazarus alludes to it.
The story of the rich man and Lazarus is a parable, to teach us that Judgment Day will come (Mal. 4), Christ WILL separate the sheep from the goats (Matt. 25:31-46; John 5:22) and that on that day it will be easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to gain entrance into the kingdom of God (Matt. 19:24).

Learn to narrow your focus to what the Scriptures actually say instead of widening them to read into them what you want them to say.
 

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Christ said only heathens and hypocrites go to church (where God does NOT dwell - Acts 7:48; 17:24), to be seen by others (Matt. 6:5-8). That was 2000 years ago. How could anyone still be so confused about how and where to seek God's Guidance, unless their minds are filled with nothing but worshiping the beast/creature, instead of the Creator?
Thank you for responding, but you didn't answer my question.
That is my new thread topic. :)
 
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Thank you for responding, but you didn't answer my question.
That is my new thread topic. :)
You're welcome. What you are doing, perhaps without realizing it, is you are asking me questions that are between you and Father (God), which aren't for me to answer.

You have been provided the necessary Scripture to know what you should be doing, including a direct quote from Christ condemning going to churches/synagogues/mosques/temples, etc. When we obey Father and His Law/Commandments, then we are listening to Him. When we don't obey Him, then we are obviously not listening or choosing to intentionally disobey Him.

Anyone who doesn't heed the numerous warnings in Scripture to avoid those satanic places of business, where the blind are led by the blind, obviously isn't listening to Father, any more than those who fail to heed the numerous warnings in Scripture prohibiting pharmacy/sorcery/witchcraft and those who administer it. Of this we can be absolutely certain.

Whether it was your intention to be deceptive or clever with your question is also a matter between you and Father.

Peace be upon you.
 

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You're welcome. What you are doing, perhaps without realizing it, is you are asking me questions that are between you and Father (God), which aren't for me to answer.

You have been provided the necessary Scripture to know what you should be doing, including a direct quote from Christ condemning going to churches/synagogues/mosques/temples, etc. When we obey Father and His Law/Commandments, then we are listening to Him. When we don't obey Him, then we are obviously not listening or choosing to intentionally disobey Him.

Anyone who doesn't heed the numerous warnings in Scripture to avoid those satanic places of business, where the blind are led by the blind, obviously isn't listening to Father, any more than those who fail to heed the numerous warnings in Scripture prohibiting pharmacy/sorcery/witchcraft and those who administer it. Of this we can be absolutely certain.

Whether it was your intention to be deceptive or clever with your question is also a matter between you and Father.

Peace be upon you.
Seriously, I need an answer on this one…

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Further to the last post, here is an example of an innovation that has active, beneficial health properties. Would a product like this count as “sorcery” too??

 

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A.Freeman, you were rightly suspicious about my true motive, but it wasn't because I was trying to be devious or clever.
An unusual thing happened to me yesterday, but I decided to delay posting until you gave a hint of what AJH says.
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Despite have those above thoughts [which I assume AJH would have said they were from God this time, since they were against attending church], I made myself go to church as usual.
As the guest preacher started to preach, my mouth dropped and I exactly knew why I had been tempted not to go!

Acts 9:1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.
3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.


For the sermon only, start just before 20th minute.

This sermon is absolutely perfect for YOU A Freeman. I wish I could have had you there in person so he could have spoken to you after.
I pray the true God melts your heart of stone and makes you truly born again in the true Holy Spirit, so you become a believer in the true Jesus Christ of the true bible.

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If the apostle Paul who had been brought up in the strictest Judaic teachings possible from his youth until he was a Pharisee of the Pharisees can become a true believer in Jesus, then if it is God's will you can leave the JAHtruth cult [even if you have been in it for 18 years]
and become a real Christian as well. The ball is in your court now.
 

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You're welcome. What you are doing, perhaps without realizing it, is you are asking me questions that are between you and Father (God), which aren't for me to answer.

You have been provided the necessary Scripture to know what you should be doing, including a direct quote from Christ condemning going to churches/synagogues/mosques/temples, etc. When we obey Father and His Law/Commandments, then we are listening to Him. When we don't obey Him, then we are obviously not listening or choosing to intentionally disobey Him.

Anyone who doesn't heed the numerous warnings in Scripture to avoid those satanic places of business, where the blind are led by the blind, obviously isn't listening to Father, any more than those who fail to heed the numerous warnings in Scripture prohibiting pharmacy/sorcery/witchcraft and those who administer it. Of this we can be absolutely certain.

Whether it was your intention to be deceptive or clever with your question is also a matter between you and Father.

Peace be upon you.
I am cutting-and-pasting your entry to the new thread because you give good insight into how AJH's mind ticks.
 
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