Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

[minnie82]

M1n Heej1n the woman who made N3w Jeans.

ok thanks, i think she was already exposed or not ?

 

[Strawberrypie]

This video clip of Jonghyun crying...breaks my heart...

Why did it seem that there were no friends, co-workers, even loved ones...when he needed their comfort?

Omg it's hard to watch him break down crying. Jjong was on Four Things, crying his heart out about his fans and bullying. He was a very sensitive person. Taem1n told a story about him crying over a sad song. Jonghy9n wore his heart on his shoulder.

 

[Strawberrypie]

ok thanks, i think she was already exposed or not ?

Company stans don't care and defend her, even asking her to protect the girls from predators and harm. Yes really.

 

[Strawberrypie]

They aren't close they only sell the family image to earn money. In one variety show they asked Jj0ng how do you spend time with your members and for 0new he said I don't usually meet up with 0new. Jj0ng and K3y also said on separate occasions that they are only co-workers. There were rumors about intense fights and 0new wanting to leave during Sherlock era. Tea accounts talked about 0new beating up Jj0ng in 2012. Do friends with brotherly bond act like that?? They invented that family story after jj0ng's death because they needed to sell records and they are still not that close. When K3y talked about jj0ng on ILA his expressions were fake. The group acted like everything was fine when T@emin's breakdown happened as well. 0new and M1nho only posted 2 lame messages saying everything will be alright. Is that the behaviour of a group who lost a member to depression? K3y met up with female celebrities during his military service but didn't even bother replying to M1nho's messages and declined to meet up with T@emin when he went to his house to visit him. I don't know about Sh@wols but I would be pretty pissed off at my friend for behaving with me like that.

The family image sells in KPOP so all groups have to act like they are brothers and sisters but the truth is they lie to us about their relationship all the time. Look at other groups BTS, Ex0 B1g Bang etc. BTS members now seem to be tired of each other, Ex0 barely interact with one another and B1g Bang members only met up for their group comeback. Most groups only have a contractual relationship and Sh1nee are just co-workers who became friends because they are in the same group.

Some are probably a little close but they're not like brothers. Taem1n hinted at that during his Advice promotion. Minh0 visited him because he had to be in the building that day. Tae said they could share the same mic, like real brothers. His face was sarcastic but fans ignored it.

Fans want idols to be close but that's not realistic. Letting go of the family image would companies a lot of money. If they're not friends, the group is manufactured, and idols are only coworkers. They put several in a group, because none of them could debut solo, and it gives fans variety. That's a better bet than a soloist. These aren't friends. You don't spend years competing with friends to debut in a group.

 

[Strawberrypie]

I think there's group with genuine affection ,i think Bts were really close in the early years ,at least some of them, but with the increase of their fame the group dynamic change,Bp too ,there's a video from their recent concert ,it seems that Lisa and Rose have a fight before getting on stage ,Lisa completely ignored her, i thought Exo have a really good bond , but i was probably wrong .

I thought exo did too, but it's fake. A few are close but it's the same fanservice and fake ships. The Korean members were bullying the Chinese members and that's part of why they left.

 

[minnie82]

I thought exo did too, but it's fake. A few are close but it's the same fanservice and fake ships. The Korean members were bullying the Chinese members and that's part of why they left.

Kai was also bullied by his band mates for his skin color o something, from what i heard

 

[whoisshe]

I think there's group with genuine affection ,i think Bts were really close in the early years ,at least some of them, but with the increase of their fame the group dynamic change,Bp too ,there's a video from their recent concert ,it seems that Lisa and Rose have a fight before getting on stage ,Lisa completely ignored her, i thought Exo have a really good bond , but i was probably wrong .

I feel like the only group I feel are genuinely close is 7teen

 

[Pepsi]

I also think they have more talent than ex0 members.

oh that's an opinion for sure.

 

[Pepsi]

do you think str@y k1ds members are close ? theyre pushed as a really really strong family (someone could say a wolf pack) all the time with b@ng ch@n being the father figure but i have doubts.

they threw w00j1n out the moment he got into controversy

 

[Pepsi]

I thought exo did too, but it's fake. A few are close but it's the same fanservice and fake ships. The Korean members were bullying the Chinese members and that's part of why they left.

tbh, i think the 8 koreans are still somewhat close, they just don't make it public. ex0 lost a huge chunk of their korean fanbase when ch3n married and became a dad.. apparently the members unanimously wanted him to stay. i don't understand why they would do that if they didnt care tbh

 

[Pepsi]

Some are probably a little close but they're not like brothers. Taem1n hinted at that during his Advice promotion. Minh0 visited him because he had to be in the building that day. Tae said they could share the same mic, like real brothers. His face was sarcastic but fans ignored it.

Fans want idols to be close but that's not realistic. Letting go of the family image would companies a lot of money. If they're not friends, the group is manufactured, and idols are only coworkers. They put several in a group, because none of them could debut solo, and it gives fans variety. That's a better bet than a soloist. These aren't friends. You don't spend years competing with friends to debut in a group.

even if people in music groups were friends i think the pressure of fame would really strain that friendship.. this is not just a kpop thing, people used to think 1d were great friends back in the day... now look at them dissing each other in interviews

 

[minnie82]

I feel like the only group I feel are genuinely close is 7teen

Don't know ,not familiar with them...

 

[KdKzXuk]

I don't think they are that close,maybe in the beginning But not now

I know im not the only one to have noticed a shift in the energy of their relationships, particularly in the last year. Pretty sure something weird happened, especially considering b@ng ch@n invasive behavior. He wasnt like that before. Im sure there are genuine bonds within the group but the group's energy as a whole became tense

 

[minnie82]

I know im not the only one to have noticed a shift in the energy of their relationships, particularly in the last year. Pretty sure something weird happened, especially considering b@ng ch@n invasive behavior. He wasnt like that before. Im sure there are genuine bonds within the group but the group's energy as a whole became tense

This group in general, with the increase of the fame ,their group dynamic start to change ,Bts and BlackPink are some example..

 

[arhur12]

oh that's an opinion for sure.

Ncity have more stage presence than Ex0.

 

[minnie82]

even if people in music groups were friends i think the pressure of fame would really strain that friendship.. this is not just a kpop thing, people used to think 1d were great friends back in the day... now look at them dissing each other in interviews

I once saw a docu about Duran Duran,a famous band from the 80's and so,And they said that at certain point they have to divide each others ,because they realize that they can't stand each others but they reunite after many years

 

[minnie82]

Ncity have more stage presence than Ex0.

Both group have stage presence

 

[arhur12]

I think they gave up on him. Depression can wear out your helpers who don't understand why you're sad. It's more than feeling sad, and is hard to explain to others who haven't experienced it. The remaining members of suj.u are closer than SHINe3 will ever be. Debut btees were brotherly compared to this. Once Tae was upset because he fell on the fed carpet, so Jk cheered him up. That's closer than them.

Does LSM make idols compete with each other? The coldness could be from a competitive environment from when they were trainees. I believe he was closer to Taem1n, but not close with anyone else. Taem1n wears some of his accessories now. If shawols feel some way about the member of suj.u saying something, a hit dog hollers. Everyone gave up on him when he needed them most.

Taem1n and On3w have changed a lot for the worse, but I don't know about the others. They need a break to get their heads around his death. We don't know if it was framed as a weakness. East Asian cultures have superstitions about suicide and death.

I agree with you on this one. It is hard to explain what depression is like to someone who has not personally experienced it. Moreover, mental health issues are not taken seriously in Korea. I also think J0nghyun himself had lost the will to live by 2017. The VCR @btach posted earlier shows him being defeated in a boxing match. The opponent he was fighting was his depression. He showed that he no longer had the strength to fight his depression. His song lonely talks about how he no longer finds joy in things he once loved to do. Being an idol, it was part of his job to show himself happy and smiling all the time in front of the fans but in reality, he was suffering. Let's not forget that all the conversations about Korean celebrities and mental health started AFTER his death which means before his death it was probably much more difficult to get access to proper help in SK.


K3y and M1nho also wear some of Jj0ng's accessories. I think he was close to the members like you are close to your long-time co-workers. He called only T@emin to 4 things show and he gave his suicide note to 9Nine not his members which implies that he was closer to her than his members. Fans are dumb they believe everything their idols show them in front of cameras. Jj0ngkey, M1nkey, Jj0ngTae, 2min these are all fake ships to make fans believe that they are all innocent virgins who have no interest in women or dating. T@ekook and Jikook used to be so popular but now look at them. The Maknae line in BTS barely interacts these days. M1nho seems closer to Changm1n than any of his members, K3y is closer to T@eyeon and T@emin is closest to Kwonho.

About essem idols appearing less close yes it could be because of intense competition but I also think it could be because most essem idols come from relatively well-off backgrounds. There is at least 1 rich idol in each essem group and not many of them have pre-debut stories about living in poverty. Poorer groups tend to have stronger bonds imo because often the group members have only each other to rely on for support. BTS were closer before they blew up after they became millionaires the bond weakened.

 

[minnie82]

I agree with you on this one. It is hard to explain what depression is like to someone who has not personally experienced it. Moreover, mental health issues are not taken seriously in Korea. I also think J0nghyun himself had lost the will to live by 2017. The VCR @btach posted earlier shows him being defeated in a boxing match. The opponent he was fighting was his depression. He showed that he no longer had the strength to fight his depression. His song lonely talks about how he no longer finds joy in things he once loved to do. Being an idol, it was part of his job to show himself happy and smiling all the time in front of the fans but in reality, he was suffering. Let's not forget that all the conversations about Korean celebrities and mental health started AFTER his death which means before his death it was probably much more difficult to get access to proper help in SK.


K3y and M1nho also wear some of Jj0ng's accessories. I think he was close to the members like you are close to your long-time co-workers. He called only T@emin to 4 things show and he gave his suicide note to 9Nine not his members which implies that he was closer to her than his members. Fans are dumb they believe everything their idols show them in front of cameras. Jj0ngkey, M1nkey, Jj0ngTae, 2min these are all fake ships to make fans believe that they are all innocent virgins who have no interest in women or dating. T@ekook and Jikook used to be so popular but now look at them. The Maknae line in BTS barely interacts these days. M1nho seems closer to Changm1n than any of his members, K3y is closer to T@eyeon and T@emin is closest to Kwonho.

About essem idols appearing less close yes it could be because of intense competition but I also think it could be because most essem idols come from relatively well-off backgrounds. There is at least 1 rich idol in each essem group and not many of them have pre-debut stories about living in poverty. Poorer groups tend to have stronger bonds imo because often the group members have only each other to rely on for support. BTS were closer before they blew up after they became millionaires the bond weakened.

Talking about Sm groups,Gg seems that they have a good bond,or at least some of them ,some members were devasted when Jessica Jung left, Twice are not sisterly at all ,some members can't stand each others like Jihyo and Nayeon for example

 

[arhur12]

Minho later came there when he found out that Jonghyun was crying. Then he waited for him down stairs too and they left together. But this was a planned section by SM.

I think this whole "M1nho is Sh1nee's biggest supporter" thing is planned by 5m. He didn't post anything for K3y or T@emin's birthday this year and fans were confused why when he is always the first one to post on birthdays. Also, there is this weird thing about M1nho frequently making bubble posts on 5:25 pm which makes Sh@wols go insane saying how he loves the group so much but now that I do not stan them anymore it just feels like another form of emotional manipulation.....