School is social engineering

justjess

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God did not ensure you could stay home with your kids. Your husband did. And your husband has a lot of white male privilage going on last time I checked.

Your life is not representative of anyone else’s. Let alone EVERYONE else’s. Being poor isn’t just a matter of living above ones means. It isn’t about that at all.

As for daycares - some are great, some such. The more money you have the better daycare you get. Like everything else. Double edged sword.

And no, Lisa - neither of my children were ever in daycare. My son started preschool shortly before turning 4, probably even later then he was actually supposed to.
 

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God did not ensure you could stay home with your kids. Your husband did. And your husband has a lot of white male privilage going on last time I checked.

Your life is not representative of anyone else’s. Let alone EVERYONE else’s. Being poor isn’t just a matter of living above ones means. It isn’t about that at all.

As for daycares - some are great, some such. The more money you have the better daycare you get. Like everything else. Double edged sword.

And no, Lisa - neither of my children were ever in daycare. My son started preschool shortly before turning 4, probably even later then he was actually supposed to.
O brother, like you know...

Living above one’s means could be a reason why people need the wife’s income is all I’m saying.
 

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1 of 8400000000 different reasons. Rarely, if ever, the primary one.

People wouldn’t need to run up credit or live above their means if their means were livable.

The average job by me pays $12-15/hr (those are professional level jobs btw) The average rent for a 2 bedroom apartment is $750. How exactly is that doable on one income? That’s 1920-2400 per month before taxes, 1700-2000 after just fica and state are taken out. Bare minimum is rent, utilities, food, transportation. $750:rent, $100/electic, $50/gas $100/water = $1000, Food for a family of 3 is around $500-700. What does that even leave left to GET TO work? In a fairly rural/suburban area with either no or extremely limited public transport options.

Add in healthcare and income tax and internet and cell phones (even bare bones prepaid plans)... what exactly are people supposed to cut out?
 

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Social engineering is nothing new. I mean it's not rocket science figuring out how easy it is to brainwash a kid. That's why I consider social engineering a type of instinctual behavior. I think the first humans already knew how to herd each other. And hopefully, I can try to explain all the implications here.

Humanity is essentially living under a caste type of system. Meaning people are divided up by professions and placed higher or lower on the pyramid depending. Take me for example, I'm perfectly fine with manual labor. I actually prefer it. But under the system I've described I'm just a lowly peon. Even if I became a filthy rich laborer, I will always be considered low.

What I've written is my reason for believing humans are far from evolving past our monkey brains. Like our DNA is actually shit for the most part. Furthermore, I think that the evolved part of our brains is simply not efficient at coping with the trauma of living. Like the great psychologist, Carl Jung said, the human psyche is shattered at birth. Followed by a mixture of repression and learning the constructs that dictate our outer world.

In conclusion, A grand awakening should be our ultimate goal. One cannot break these ancient constructs without being aware of them.
 

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Students aren't encouraged to ask themselves "why" and that should be the biggest question when you want to learn. We're expected to passively absorb every information we get from our teachers and regurgitate them during exams.
My biggest hang up with school was how hierarchical it was. I'm in college now and I was surprised when my teacher from Brazil congratulated me for thinking outside the box. It was refreshing because teachers generally can't get off their high horse.
 

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Students aren't encouraged to ask themselves "why" and that should be the biggest question when you want to learn. We're expected to passively absorb every information we get from our teachers and regurgitate them during exams.
My biggest hang up with school was how hierarchical it was. I'm in college now and I was surprised when my teacher from Brazil congratulated me for thinking outside the box. It was refreshing because teachers generally can't get off their high horse.
Teachers are also made to be slaves to the state, or they don't get paid. Where I live, they are waiving student loans for people who go to school to be teachers. No one wants to do it, anymore.
 

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Teachers are also made to be slaves to the state, or they don't get paid. Where I live, they are waiving student loans for people who go to school to be teachers. No one wants to do it, anymore.
You got that right.

With all the bureaucracy and teaching students mostly to pass standardized tests, teachers, especially good teachers, are leaving left and right.

A friend of mine who was teacher of the year left the profession 3-5 years after receiving that honor. No wonder student loans are being waived. Districts can't retain quality teachers and can't pay them what they're worth.
 

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I finished school in 2005, and of course, things changed. I didn't have a smartphone or laptop that could help me to write essays or pass exams. I went to a library and learned everything I needed. I guess, my school taught me to study in a proper way, so a college wasn't hard for me. Today high school students can use modern technologies, visit vaious sites and college apps to prepare for exams, etc. Such sources are no doubt helpful. But I noticed that people who are about 5 years younger than me find it difficult to write essays or letters, or organize their work in a proper way. Of course, I don't say that all people are the same, but in my opinion, it is better to make pupils think and make decisions by themselves without using devices.
 
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couldn't find a place to post this except here
was gonna put it in the dumbdown thread but
it's not really funny to me this is the future of Our
World,then thought maybe start a new thread but
wasn't sure that it was needed

this is what happens when Peoples are more about
teaching woke nonsense than actual education,this
only confirms for me that school is more or less a social
club for Children to make friends and that's about it
besides confusing,corrupting,perverting Our Children


 

redqueen

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I didn't think of that @Mr Anderson
alot of parents allow for the internet,
tv w/e raise the Children so much more
today because of the technology We have
 
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I finished school in 2005, and of course, things changed. I didn't have a smartphone or laptop that could help me to write essays or pass exams. I went to a library and learned everything I needed. I guess, my school taught me to study in a proper way, so a college wasn't hard for me. Today high school students can use modern technologies, visit vaious sites and college apps to prepare for exams, etc. Such sources are no doubt helpful. But I noticed that people who are about 5 years younger than me find it difficult to write essays or letters, or organize their work in a proper way. Of course, I don't say that all people are the same, but in my opinion, it is better to make pupils think and make decisions by themselves without using devices.
Your comment echoes this infographic I posted here regarding technology:


As well, Lil Axe made a thread about the issue:


I think it's clear that technology is working against us as many are growing up not having the self discipline or the cognitive ability to develop habits where memorizing and higher learning can take place. Technology has clearly truncated attention spans, and to have meaningful or thoughtful conversations are now rarities.
 
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Algebra practically ruined my life and I still resent being tortured with it. I have never used it in real life. Same with geometry. After eighth grade I knew everything I needed to know and high school was a waste of time. The only thing I learned in high school was who were the people to get drugs from. I spent most of the time hiding in the library reading. I can still remember books that I read but nothing from the classroom. Now I realize that school is just a way to cheat people out of their tax dollars and most teachers are useless to everyone but themselves.
 
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Technology can make you dumber but it can make you smarter as well. For example who would be that well informed without all the info available on the internet? The number of millionaires making money with ecommerce grows more each year thanks to the democratic system of information that is the WWW. Or course it was not designed for that and TPTB invented social media and porn to create a bunch of noise so that users get endlessly distracted by meaningless crap like posting your entire life on websites with photos of everything including your food. Most people choose to chase their own tail. And feed their narcissistic needs.

Also those who make the tech are becoming smarter, so if everyone became a cybersecurity expert they would know how to code and defeat the Illuminati using knowledge. But most ethical or unethical hackers work for them because all they want is money.
 

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Algebra practically ruined my life and I still resent being tortured with it. I have never used it in real life. Same with geometry. After eighth grade I knew everything I needed to know and high school was a waste of time. The only thing I learned in high school was who were the people to get drugs from. I spent most of the time hiding in the library reading. I can still remember books that I read but nothing from the classroom. Now I realize that school is just a way to cheat people out of their tax dollars and most teachers are useless to everyone but themselves.
I had a meltdown in class one day about algebra. I argued that we would never use it in real life. The teacher agreed that most of us would never use it but they taught it anyways, just to see how we comprehended new material. What a bunch of BS!! High school doesn't prepare people for the real world. Our controllers don't want that. I was a C minus student in High School but in College I graduated with honors simply because I was motivated. I was learning things that I felt were useful and important.
 
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I had a meltdown in class one day about algebra. I argued that we would never use it in real life. The teacher agreed that most of us would never use it but they taught it anyways, just to see how we comprehended new material. What a bunch of BS!! High school doesn't prepare people for the real world. Our controllers don't want that. I was a C minus student in High School but in College I graduated with honors simply because I was motivated. I was learning things that I felt were useful and important.
I can appreciate your perspective because I could not stand algebra either in high school! I distinctly remember ignoring basically everything my math teacher(s) taught me about the subject. I even remember one teacher getting one of my parents to sign an algebra test I failed. Although, when I got into the field of adult education, I needed to take a crash course in it because I needed to teach it to someone. o_O it's only now where I understand how it's applicable. If you're interested, here's a list of jobs where it's used:

50 Jobs That Use Algebra

Being a tradesperson myself, I now understand its benefits. I even recall one day having to apply it to convert a recipe,
 
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Frank Badfinger

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I can appreciate your perspective because I could not stand algebra either in high school! I distinctly remember ignoring basically everything my math teacher(s) taught me about the subject. I even remember one teacher getting one of my parents to sign an algebra test I failed. Although, when I got into the field of adult education, I needed to take a crash course in it because I needed to teach it to someone. o_O it's only now where I understand how it's applicable. If you're interested, here's a list of jobs where it's used:

50 Jobs That Use Algebra

Being a tradesperson myself, I now understand its benefits. I even recall one day having to apply to convert a recipe,
I agree algebra is important, but when I look back it was the way it was taught. It was foreign. It was like learning a new language. I was just memorizing formulas and couldn't relate to it in a practical sense. At the time in grade 11, I was thinking, how is this going to help me now? I'd remember the formulas for the test and then forget them afterwards. It didn't work for me.
 

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I didn't think of that @Mr Anderson
alot of parents allow for the internet,
tv w/e raise the Children so much more
today because of the technology We have
That's exactly the core of the problem. Well, at least here in brazil where we have Paulo Freire (good luck with him, US of A!) most parents have negleted their child education believing that school would do it, parents have been substituted by the internet, school and government. Really, lots of people here still believe that going to school or college is a failsafe pass that their kids are getting good education, both intelectually and as a person. I could develop this a bit more but... i'm so tired of this subject... The situation, get it? It saddens me, the current state of the people
 
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