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I can't get over the first part of your post STILL disregarding the fact that God says he created evil. "I make peace AND CREATE EVIL" How the hell are you ignore that when it's RIGHT THERE?@Oceanic
God did not and never will create evil and it doesn't say so anywhere in Bible, if anyone says otherwise they are a liar. God is love, all that He does or creates is contained in the circle of His love and protection. With God is peace. Outside of Him is evil.
Psalm 92:15, "To declare that the Lord is upright; He is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in Him."
This is all mumbo jumbo and has nothing to do with the God of the Bible who is the true God.
I am a Christian who believes in Jesus Christ and believe the Bible is the infallible Word of God. If anyone says anything that does not go hand in hand with the Bible, they are wrong. If we follow Christ we will be doing the right thing regardless of the history of Christianity. He is our example not the history of Christianity.
Here you go misquoting the Bible again and clearly dismissing the progressiveness of the Bible from the Old to the New Covenant as I explained which is the truth of the Bible. The progression of the Bible shows us the progression of mankind from the creation to the end time when Jesus returns. It shows us the plan of salvation which involved the Israelites and later the Jews to preach and evangelise to the whole world. It was a blessing to be chosen. However it was always God's plan that the whole world hear about Him and become part of Israel/Judah should they choose to have a relationship with Jesus Christ and submit to Him.
For you to quote Paul in Galatians while ignoring that he is the same person I quote mostly who made it clear that all who are saved through Jesus Christ are Abraham's seed is contradictory don't you think?
And the apostle Peter who you quote is the same who said, "In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him" (Acts 10:34-35). So Peter was talking about the Israel of God in the New Covenant which has both Jews and Gentiles. And to be honest there are more Gentiles than there are genetic Jews in God's Israel sadly. Most Jews reject Christ as Messiah.
I also explained how we should study the bible and you cannot pick and choose what passages suit your false doctrine while ignoring others. The Bible is harmonious and does not say one thing that contradicts itself. Its people who misinterpret the Bible as you clearly have.
Well the Bible disagrees with you as I've proved to you through scripture. Let me add that the Bible is clear we are all one in Christ if we have His faith. Here is some scripture that is plain and clear to understand:
Romans 12:5, "so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another."
1 Corinthians 12:13, "For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit."
Ephesians 3:6, "that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel."
Ephesians 4:4-6, "There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all."
These are written by Paul by the way. Are you just going to ignore these passages and more where he says we are all one in Christ?
No one in this world is more important than another, not in the eyes of God. We are all important regardless of nation, race and tongue and if we choose to accept and have faith in Christ, we are chosen.
But why would that anger come from God? Those people will have rejected God and hardened their hearts and will be angry because of their choices that they made because they have free will.
You are completely wrong and it is not a plot and we are not in some sinister and evil play. Not from God. As I said I believe the Bible over anyone who contradicts it and you do. Here is what the Bible says on the subject:
John 3:16-17, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved."
1 Timothy 2:3-6, "For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time."
2 Peter 3:9, "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance."
Titus 2:11, "For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men."
My inheritance is in Christ and was given to me freely by Grace. Its not stolen at all.
When we choose Christ and His precepts we are chosen and are part of Israel and no biblical text challenges that truth. Just those who misunderstand the Bible.
Everything you've posted in this thread is a lie. Biblically you either have the the whole truth or nothing at all. There is no middle ground where its okay to mix truth and lies. And again you are misquoting scripture and ignoring the developing nature of the Bible that proves God's plan for all of mankind.
You think if you quote scripture about Israel especially from the Old Testament, that somehow it will cancel out that in the New Covenant the Israel of God is made of up of both Jew and Gentiles. It says so clearly as I've proved from the bible.
And you also think that somehow that because in your logic God created the nations to punish the Israelites that the means they've fulfilled what they were created for. These people are puppets according to you and have no free will. They are in a play and at the end god will discard them after He has used them. This is satanic teaching and is most definitely NOT biblical and does not come from a loving God. God would not do such an evil thing.
Your god is so evil that he created most people for the benefit of a few favourite people. He does not love them at all and apparently after they fulfil their purpose he will discard them like they are rubbish. I repeat, that is NOT the God of the Bible at all. Everything God does, He does out of love and for our betterment. He loves us all, wants to save us and live with us forever.
Its sad that you believe such lies about God.
I am Abraham's seed and all those who have the faith of Jesus are Abraham's seed, so says the Word of God that He Himself made available to us so we can get to know, understand and love Him.
Romans 2:28-29 - He is not a Jew who is one outwardly.
Romans 9:6 - They are not all Israel which are of Israel.
Galatians 3:29 - They that are Christ’s are Abraham's seed.
Galatians 3:14 - That the blessings of Abraham may come on the Gentiles in Christ Jesus
Faith in Christ is not based on one’s genealogy, neither is genealogy required to become an overcomer. It is a matter of character and becoming like-minded with Christ, not the ability to trace one’s genealogy to a particular man or tribe.
Satan is guilty of his own choices, he chose to get out of God's circle of love and protection and sinned. He is angry because he put himself in the predicament he is in and knows what his end is going to be and its very bleak. That is why he wants to go to hell with as many people as possible. .
I'm done with discussion but I hope and pray that God reveals His truth to you.
God bless.
As for the rest of what you said, okay. We're just never going to agree with each other. I can't keep responding to someone who sees God as this sunshine rainbows kiddy kiddy being. No you are not of Abraham's seed. You cannot just be born from a certain bloodline and then claim you're from another one. That is basically a paradox, or in more simpler terms- impossible.
Okay, that's it. We disagree, I'm moving on.