This forum seemingly dead, no real conspiracy truthers here

polymoog

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This is valuable information, like other users mentioned. I definitely will now take a closer look and also add more valuable data to those threads.
excellent-- the more contributions we get from different sources, the sharper and more refined our information becomes.


you definitely got out of your way, just to be sure we could identify the right threads.
i get a lot of flak for being an organization nazi here, but when one needs to share something to a normie/friend/family member, it is usually correctly categorized and easily found.

shalom aleichem.
 

Journeyman

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I mentioned in an earlier post that Matt from QoC had addressed this endless conspiracy quest. This video probably outlines the trap better:


Edit: it's funny, just a day after I tracked that one down Matt is back with another video, this time he's covering the enormous rabbit hole maps that often get shared on the various conspiracies that we could be delving into:

 
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Journeyman

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Probably dumb question but are there another forums like this?
Maybe not quite like this one, but there's plenty of places discussing conspiracy theories. Censorship on certain subjects is quite heavy now but Reddit conspiracy is allowed, for some reason... , to exist:
Cluesforum—Exposing Mass Deception - Index page
Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
There's also the chans:
the mystical / esoteric stuff on /x/ - Paranormal - 4chan and perhaps some of the political stuff on pol /pol/ - Politically Incorrect - 4chan
I like this one, not really conspiracy but there is some discussion of it there: Avalon

There's probably a lot more if you ferret through the various corners of the web. :)
 

rainerann

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I think it is because fewer people are doing their own research and so the forum ends up being a collection of sound bites that people get very emotionally attached to. I read this forum for years before joining. I used to lurk on the one that went down before this and it used to be interesting because there were more people who were able to introduce something new rather than repost something they found somewhere else.

there used to be more independent complexity that made this place interesting. Now there’s not.
 

The Zone

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I think it is because fewer people are doing their own research and so the forum ends up being a collection of sound bites that people get very emotionally attached to. I read this forum for years before joining. I used to lurk on the one that went down before this and it used to be interesting because there were more people who were able to introduce something new rather than repost something they found somewhere else.

there used to be more independent complexity that made this place interesting. Now there’s not.
That is because there is a plandemic, totalitarian type takeovers of freedoms and such which funnel people into like-minded efforts to resist. I miss varied topics as well but how important are they with what we are facing right this very second seeing the most changes ever pounding on our very way of life? They want people split. I get that too for varying opinions are important but so is what I am seeing here of late, people leaving differences at the door to call out the obvious. That is what is needed to stand some ground as our rights are stolen.

No offense, but you seem to just go with the flow more often than not with concern to the world we live in. You shortchange a lot of people here with veiled comments implying they do not do their own research. And it is that belittling attitude which makes for little discourse coming your way. Perhaps you need to be more accepting of some ideas yourself or at least entertain them instead of going auto-devils advocate. And let us be truthful here. You did more than lurk on the last forum - you posted a lot. Some of us long-timers have a great memory and are sticklers for accuracy.
 
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That is because there is a plandemic, totalitarian type takeovers of freedoms and such which funnel people into like-minded efforts to resist. I miss varied topics as well but how important are they with what we are facing right this very second seeing the most changes ever pounding on our very way of life? They want people split. I get that too for varying opinions are important but so is what I am seeing here of late, people leaving differences at the door to call out the obvious. That is what is needed to stand some ground as our rights are stolen.

No offense, but you seem to just go with the flow more often than not with concern to the world we live in. You shortchange a lot of people here with veiled comments implying they do not do their own research. And it is that belittling attitude which makes for little discourse coming your way. Perhaps you need to be more accepting of some ideas yourself or at least entertain them instead of going auto-devils advocate. And let us be truthful here. You did more than lurk on the last forum - you posted a lot. Some of us long-timers have a great memory and are sticklers for accuracy.
I have no complaints with the amount of discourse I get here. Your gaslighting about the number of replies is absurd since you are the number one person who responds to me almost every time I post. Like I said, you love it when I’m here. You probably even missed me since you practically jumped to reply to my post. Lol. Like a whole 12 minutes later, you responded. How do I get you to take some advice from these people you say are ignoring me. Give me one of their names. I will send them a private message to counsel you on your contradiction.

and you missed my point. I was saying there used to be more walls of text with people who could read something somewhere else, digest it, emulsify it with things they already know, and form their own independent comment based on this that they would introduce for discussion. When I started here, most of the people I would talk to would respond to me with a wall of text.

and I was never here on the old iteration I can assure you. I feel like I have a pretty distinct perspective in my posts that would otherwise make this clear, but to be clear. I never joined until the one before this went down. I joined over on the forum started by hex and Loki. I was there when this one went live and that was how I knew about it to sign up then.

I joined because I was wanting to discuss alternative prophecy perspectives. If I come around here anymore, that is still going to be why. I was never really into current events even though I get suckered over there sometimes. It was always all about discussing religion without boundaries for me here. Straight truth. I have had one account. My screen name is the same on vigilant forums and I have never had a single sock.
 

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You do not have to War and Peace length every post. You are either being dishonest on being on the old forum or your memory is suspect. Seriously. You do not remember the discussion in this forum where I mentioned how much your stance on things had changed from the old forum? The PMs you use to send? Really? My issue is that you sidetrack many threads like the mass COVID one at the start. Do you acknowledge or remember that as many here do? I have no issue with your posting and think deep down you are a decent person having known your moniker for a long while now. Sometimes socks forget what and when they posted, their firm stances implied via past posts, or where they left off. Peace.
 
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You do not have to War and Peace length every post. You are either being dishonest on being on the old forum or your memory is suspect. Seriously. You do not remember the discussion in this forum where I mentioned how much your stance on things had changed from the old forum? The PM's you use to send? Really? My issue is that you sidetrack many threads like the mass COVID one at the start. Do you acknowledge or remember that as many here do? I have no issue with your posting but will warn others of falling into conversations that will take years off one's life and get nowhere. Sometimes socks forget what and when they posted, their firm stances implied via past posts, or where they left off. Peace.
i take that back. I did have one or two posts on the old forum. It was about religion. I think it had something to do with the opinion that Islam and Judaism were two sides of the same coin basically. I have posted the same opinion in my early posts here too.

there was one person that responded to this. They were Muslim and their name started with a w, and they were trying to explain the differences between them and they were claiming a history of tolerance by Muslims for Jews. It was in a thread by a poster that was against Zionism that isn’t here anymore. This was right before the forum went down. I did have a different screen name for this forum, but felt that I had more of a history at vigilant forums with this one, and didn’t want to create the impression of being someone else, so I stuck with it when I joined here.

I was never on the old forum where I had any real history that I’m trying to hide from. I guess I didn’t understand what you meant at all when you mentioned my stance changing. I didn’t realize this is what you suspected. I never sent you any pms on the old forum. The first time you stand out to me in memory was from the thread started by Damien where we posted pictures of what we thought people looked like around here.

you jumped in the thread saying no one had mentioned you. And then I posted a picture of Batman on a surfboard. That is the first time I remember talking to you. Don’t talk about what I remember or don’t remember about what I post here. My memory is just fine and everything I have said here is basically with this account and can be referenced. I have no other accounts to create confusion over what I remember posting.

you just let your suspicions run away with you because I had a different take on the covid situation, and I will still say this is the last place that I would go if I were looking for information on that subject, but carry on. I can respect that other people are talking about something I disagree with, without obsessing over trying to get them to see things in a different way.

you can ignore me, other people can ignore me too. Maybe that is for the best sometimes even. This place can be distracting if you are here for too long anyway.
 

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You're a mess. You posted all the time in the old forum and had completely different views on much. You sent PM's all the time. We have had no what I would call positive history here but did there. If you remember the positive history - it was there. I will let it go but you either have memory issues or get some things mixed up when you take breaks. I was hired at one job I work for my ability to remember things clearly and forget little. Carry on. I have seen enough and will back off. Have at it with posting for this really is small in the big picture and I got sidetracked by it. Seriously, lets get this thread back on track.
 
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You're a mess. You posted all the time in the old forum and had completely different views on much. You sent PM's all the time. We have had no what I would call positive history here but did there. If you remember the positive history - it was there. I will let it go but you either have memory issues or get some things mixed up when you take breaks. I was hired at one job I work for my ability to remember things clearly and forget little. I have reason to think this is but one persona of many now and that will make me avoid interactions more. Not sure you are real, so to speak. Carry on. I have seen enough.
right but you weren’t hired for your forensic ability to match me with some other accounts that you remember. You may remember these people very well, but you have no way to prove that I am both of these accounts. I am not. I never sent you pms on the old forum. I never sent anyone pms on the old forum.

memory and forensic ability are two different things. You are completely making up that I was someone else, but I’m grateful to hear you will be avoiding me now all the same.
 

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@rainerann Just an observation. You appear unable to start a paragraph in a capital letter. Considering the laborious effort you put into each post this repeated grammatical error was what made me think you were actually a bot.

You could start each new paragraph off correctly to prove me wrong I suppose.

But it's a very bottish trait you have there
 

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Lol @Awoken2 not capitalizing the first letter of a paragraph is actually a very non bottish things to do. You do know how easy it can be to program making the first letter of a word uppercase right? An artificial intelligence bot that can learn how to appropriately respond but can’t do one of the most basic and oldest programming functions around. It is something that is programmed onto your keyboard even. I think it is shift and f3 that will rotate through and change your word from lowercase to all caps to capitalizing the first letter of the word. Why don’t you go ahead and try it?

but sure very common behavior for a bot…or maybe you don’t actually know what common behavior for a bot looks like.

I think you and all the others need to just go and talk in your little groups about how responding to me doesn’t seem to help the objective of getting me to stop talking. One of you needs to stay strong for the rest of you. I know you can do it!!
 

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Lol @Awoken2 not capitalizing the first letter of a paragraph is actually a very non bottish things to do.
I actually read this in a C3PO voice in my head....spoken like a true bot

You do know how easy it can be to program making the first letter of a word uppercase right?
I don't need any type of programming whatsoever to start each paragraph with a capital letter....learned that stuff in school.


An artificial intelligence bot that can learn how to appropriately respond but can’t do one of the most basic and oldest programming functions around. It is something that is programmed onto your keyboard even. I think it is shift and f3 that will rotate through and change your word from lowercase to all caps to capitalizing the first letter of the word. Why don’t you go ahead and try it?
Forgive me for stating the glaringly obvious but why don't you go ahead and try it?.

but sure very common behavior for a bot…or maybe you don’t actually know what common behavior for a bot looks like.
Is it possible to offend a bot? You sound a bit offended. I've been here a while now, with the bots, just observing.

I think you and all the others need to just go and talk in your little groups
That's exactly what we are doing. VCF is a very very small group.... would you not agree?
 
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You do not remember the discussion in this forum where I mentioned how much your stance on things had changed from the old forum? The PMs you use to send? Really?
If you wanted to, you could further confuse/ upset the algorithm by saying that you were bluffing.
 
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