Why is Feminism much worse than Cancer nowadays that is caused by women which keeps most men single?

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Plenty of non theistic religions.

God doesn’t make logical sense but logic is something you don’t possess and reject.
On the contrary, the laws of logic are impossible with a sense based sceptical and empiricist worldview. non theistic religion is an oxymoron, there are none. What religions are they? Not Buddhism, Hinduism, paganism, Greek, Roman, Norse, Zoroastrian, Islam, Christian, Jewish...? I guess you have the satanism you’re so fond of, but that’s not a religion, just a meme for edgy 12 year olds.
 

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Btw, not that I ever made the comparison of women and children in the sense that I am being accused of, but why is it alright for men to be likened to cruel barbarians that only abuse women and then why I say something about women and children there are women here that get offended by comparisons?
 
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Read the list. There’s strains of it in almost all religions. I don’t like Satanism either chief, I’m a discordian. Please find some new material the 12 year old thing is getting boring
There are people who invent nontheistic ways of practicing religion, but no religious tradition is non theistic. No religious teacher has been non theistic, Buddha, Krishna, Moses, christ, Hermes. so for people who want to follow progressive scholars as if they’re religious teachers they invented some way
The Buddha said that devas (translated as "gods") do exist
A few liberal Christian theologians define a "nontheistic God" as "the ground of all being" rather than as a personal divine being.
None of those are atheist, they just describe God in a different way. Try reading your Wikipedia link arguments before posting them lol, it makes you look a little on the “doing coloring books and can’t tie his shoes” side if not
 
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You still arent answering my question. Where are the modern day successful black countries and mass black achievement? What, now that slavery is abolished? How were Europeans even able to whitewash history? Because they're inherently superior to black people? If you cant see the connection between the two then I really dont know what to tell you. You keep asking for mass contribution from women when you're smart enough to realize women were actively prevented from contributing. In societies that were more egalitarian you'll find that women contributed much more. Look up what they did in hunter gatherer societies for example. And they also always worked, contrary to the very narrow housewife model that has never been universal.
You don’t want to go to the appropriate thread to discuss whitewashing because you don’t care. Slavery hasn’t been abolished it moved to the private prisons. And the west STILL installs/disposes puppet regimes at its wish depending on if a country is going with or against their liking. The bankers backed feminism. You know what happened when black people tried to take things into their own hands during the civil rights era? The govt created a secret organization to monitor their movements, infiltrate from within, and dismantle.To go in depth on this and why it happened altogether you could open a thread about it or go in the designated thread and take off from where it left off. You won’t

And all that I mentioned is after the time black people could literally step outside and get lynched just because and you want to compare that to women being in marriages lol

What I wrote WERE definitions Koncrete. They even broke the words down to their roots. This was from people who actually work with linguistic analyses for a living. Did you even read any of it? Even in a simple, low-morphology language like English you should know that looking up a definition of any word at random is not going to give you the full scope of its usage or explain how it's used in context. Hebrew is even more conplex considering its morphology.


You say as you refuse to actually analyze the language of the biblical texts.


This is a moot point since you refuse to accept you dont know how to parse either "ezer" or "kenegdo".


You missed the point of the Corinthians passage. And the word "woman" doesnt come from the word "man" -the Germanic rootwords are different. The creation story isnt even recorded in English lol what even is this point you're trying to make?
Ezer means help yet you’re trying to argue against the woman being help to the man? That’s on you. i just pulled up the simple definitions to show that you have to play gymnastics to make them seem equal when still, at the end of the day, HELP, is still there. Which your link INCORRECTLY says meant strength.

And I said biblically speaking God named man and man named the woman. Meaning God gave Adam/man his name and then Adam/man gave Eve/woman her name. That’s the hierarchy.
Tell me now if you're not even going to bother reading my posts. It's a waste of time for me to write out responses only for you to completely ignore or skim them to the point that you regurgitate arguments already addressed. It's frustrating. If you want to believe men are superior to women and all the evil feminist women who want independence are doomed to miserable lives then whatever dude. But dont pretend like your belief stems from anything resembling objective reasoning if you have to rely on dismissing points out of hand becase you evidently cant engage them.
I’ll definitely do my best to address what you’re saying in general. But when there’s two or three paragraphs with different questions you can’t expect me to go answer you line by line and get literally everything you’re asking. As far as that post again, it’s mainly “what aboutisms”. The verse is clear when it says man wasn’t created for woman but woman for man. Your idea of addressing that is saying “yea but what about” and if I don’t go down that tangent then that means it’s out of my reach...

And even with that coworkers has nothing to do with what I’m saying. Brother and sister has nothing to do with what I’m saying. The only thing that is relevant is who is given dominion over everything on earth and that’s man. That’s why your feminist movement only works if men go along with it/support it.
 

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Btw, not that I ever made the comparison of women and children in the sense that I am being accused of, but why is it alright for men to be likened to cruel barbarians that only abuse women and then why I say something about women and children there are women here that get offended by comparisons?
I am not offended by the comparison.

Just confused that you are arguing for more autonomy for children, but less for women, who are just grown up children, same as men.
 
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Tbh, I don't believe in either.

But that is beside the point.
Women should be able to determine their own lives, and not be owned by someone else.

Helpmeet, however it is understood, was never intended to mean slave.
It’s feminism that likens being under a husband to slavery. While they push you out in the world to be submissive to corporations who care even less about you then a proverbial husband would. But that’s okay? Go be submissive to corporations but call being submissive to your husband slavery? Makes no sense.
 
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Buddha always denied a creator god
He denied that anything was created, not created, both created and not created, and neither created or not created. You don’t know the first thing about Buddhist philosophy or why he made that argument. That nuance does not make Buddhism atheistic, he was correcting something within the Hindu tradition.
 
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“ Philosophical models not falling within established religious structures, such as Daoism, Confucianism, Epicureanism, Deism, and Pandeism, have also been considered to be nontheistic religions.[39]”

Anyway, bye bye bitch, have fun being terminally on line in your basement. Maybe go outside sometime. Whenever I log on here you’re always on. You’re a joke and everything about you is poison. You’re stupid and pathetic and it’s always entertaining talking to someone who wouldn’t be worthy of wiping my ass. Go spend several hours watching NWO/Jew conspiracy theories.
Lol cry about it baby boy, someone getting mad:( maybe stomp your feet and make a fist
 

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It’s feminism that likens being under a husband to slavery. While they push you out in the world to be submissive to corporations who care even less about you then a proverbial husband would. But that’s okay? Go be submissive to corporations but call being submissive to your husband slavery? Makes no sense.
I am not submissive to corporations.
Why would you think I was?
 
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Lol
That’s all you got. You’re the one obsessed with me. Have fun in the basement and never knowing the touch of a woman.

Peace!
Good guesses, far off unfortunately. Happy to see you taking another L like every time youre here, obsessively returning to this forum is for sure the right diagnoses for you
 
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I am not submissive to corporations.
Why would you think I was?
You don’t have a job? You don’t pay taxes?

Either way, I was using “you” as the woman in general. Feminism taught women to reject being submissive to the husband to go into the work force and be submissive to the work force. The same work force will tell you how to wear your hair, dress, talk, what time to go and leave and women are fine with that. They don’t call it slavery. But replace that with a man and now it’s slavery? Again doesn’t make much sense to me
 

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I am not offended by the comparison.

Just confused that you are arguing for more autonomy for children, but less for women, who are just grown up children, same as men.
I'm not arguing here for any of that. I am using the notion of greater autonomy for children to demonstrate that some of the feminist objections and examples they use to paint men in the picture they do can be unfair and based off of exaggeration. Not only that, but the hypocrisy of promoting their ideas while laughing at notions like greater child autonomy(because of abuse) and bashing movements like MGTOW which is based off of mistreatment.
 

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You don’t have a job? You don’t pay taxes?

Either way, I was using “you” as the woman in general. Feminism taught women to reject being submissive to the husband to go into the work force and be submissive to the work force. The same work force will tell you how to wear your hair, dress, talk, what time to go and leave and women are fine with that. They don’t call it slavery. But replace that with a man and now it’s slavery? Again doesn’t make much sense to me
No. I don't pay taxes.
 

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I'm not arguing here for any of that. I am using the notion of greater autonomy for children to demonstrate that some of the feminist objections and examples they use to paint men in the picture they do can be unfair and based off of exaggeration. Not only that, but the hypocrisy of promoting their ideas while laughing at notions like greater child autonomy(because of abuse) and bashing movements like MGTOW which is based off of mistreatment.
MGTOW are mistreated?
I thought they were a bunch of angry Incels who had only themselves to blame.

No one, woman or man, wants a partner who demands 'fuck me, love me' with menaces.
 

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You don’t want to go to the appropriate thread to discuss whitewashing because you don’t care. Slavery hasn’t been abolished it moved to the private prisons. And the west STILL installs/disposes puppet regimes at its wish depending on if a country is going with or against their liking. The bankers backed feminism. You know what happened when black people tried to take things into their own hands during the civil rights era? The govt created a secret organization to monitor their movements, infiltrate from within, and dismantle.To go in depth on this and why it happened altogether you could open a thread about it or go in the designated thread and take off from where it left off. You won’t
Then link me to the starting post. Simple.

And all that I mentioned is after the time black people could literally step outside and get lynched just because and you want to compare that to women being in marriages lol
Nice strawman. I'm comparing black people's lack of achievement in comparison to whites to women's lack of achievement and contribution compared to men.

Ezer means help yet you’re trying to argue against the woman being help to the man? That’s on you. i just pulled up the simple definitions to show that you have to play gymnastics to make them seem equal when still, at the end of the day, HELP, is still there. Which your link INCORRECTLY says meant strength.
My link was a compilation of linguists and scholars who surmise ezer's definition as well as its context in relation to Eve. If you dont understand what the articles Jess and I linked means just say so. Because its actually embarrassing how badly you misread it.

And I said biblically speaking God named man and man named the woman. Meaning God gave Adam/man his name and then Adam/man gave Eve/woman her name. That’s the hierarchy.
Adam named Eve, not women as in the collective sense. Hagar gave God a name as well. Eve named her firstborn son, thanking God for helping her bring forth a man. Naming does not indicate authority or hierarchy. That's reading into the text.

I’ll definitely do my best to address what you’re saying in general. But when there’s two or three paragraphs with different questions you can’t expect me to go answer you line by line and get literally everything you’re asking. As far as that post again, it’s mainly “what aboutisms”. The verse is clear when it says man wasn’t created for woman but woman for man. Your idea of addressing that is saying “yea but what about” and if I don’t go down that tangent then that means it’s out of my reach...
You didnt even have the integrity to address the rest of the Corinthians passage lol.

And even with that coworkers has nothing to do with what I’m saying. Brother and sister has nothing to do with what I’m saying. The only thing that is relevant is who is given dominion over everything on earth and that’s man. That’s why your feminist movement only works if men go along with it/support it.
It's pertinent because women financially supported men including Jesus. Women were commended for following Christ and for working in ministry, with no mention to what you consider to be a woman's primary purpose. Ok so where does God give Adam alone dominion? Verse where its stated please.
 

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MGTOW are mistreated?
I thought they were a bunch of angry Incels who had only themselves to blame.

No one, woman or man, wants a partner who demands 'fuck me, love me' with menaces.
See what you did there? You want everyone to respect feminism while utterly dismissing and minimalizing mistreatment reported by others... Let alone being unwilling to even acknowledge their grievances as legit.
 

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See what you did there? You want everyone to respect feminism while utterly dismissing and minimalizing mistreatment reported by others... Let alone being unwilling to even acknowledge their grievances as legit.
Lol

I don't think there is a comparison there.

I don't think that a person demanding autonomy as an adult is the same as a person demanding that someone have sex with them.

Autonomy is something all adults should have by right.
Sex and love from another individual is something you should earn.
 

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Lol

I don't think there is a comparison there.

I don't think that a person demanding autonomy as an adult is the same as a person demanding that someone have sex with them.

Autonomy is something all adults should have by right.
Sex and love from another individual is something you should earn.
So that is MGTOW then? That accurately represents there grievances? That there wives refused to have sex with them....
 

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We clearly disagree on the intent of patriarchy and what laws and rules qualify as oppressive so that's not going to change. I am just saying that if we apply your logic and feminists logic then reform to the current laws and rules in relation to parents and children are long overdue for serious change. Even to the extent of parents having little to no right to raise their kids altogether. I could argue based off of your arguments that children are currently being oppressed, have no rights to protect themselves in an abusive situation, no rights to protect them, they are the greatest victims. Even without clear abuse the question is will parents raise their kids in such a way where they go off into the world as healthy and emotionally well human beings that can function in society and not be prone to make choices that are self destructive in nature. The question you will have to decide is whether or not that's an exaggerated claim and the numbers and findings used to make such a claim math the reality. The abuse numbers are there. Everything is there to paint parenting in a negative light... The grown adults needing psychiatry and anti depressants because of their childhood is there, because they never grow up to be truly functioning adults and often engage in self harm habits. I don't believe I am wrong to apply your logic and contend that the current structure fails children and parents are in one way or another harming their kids in mass then helping them. Therefore reforms and change to the tradtional sense of parents having freedom tor raise their kids as they see fit needs to change.

My personal views are that people in general are self destructive by nature and given their own free will they will only engage in mostly self destructive practices. I think that the very free will they embrace is destroying them. Men will make the wrong choices. Women will make the wrong choices. You view limitations and restrictions to choice as oppressive when I will argue the more freedom a person has to act on their own behalf the more harm they will do to themselves and others. Biblically speaking men were under subjection to. They were under subjection to the laws of God and the laws of Christ so to act like women were the only ones under subjection and having limitations is not true and patriarchy is based off of Biblical precepts.
Look, you havent been able to prove any positive intent for patriarchy. You havent been able to provide a good reason as to why women werent allowed to be educated for example. Women being under men is an entirely different thing to children being under adults. If you can answer the question as to why women would need to be under men that is in anyway similar to why children should be under parents, then maybe we could get somewhere. Because "feminists logic" is that there is no reason for a grown women to be treated like a perpetual child. Do you see the dissonance of your comparison? You're trying to dismantle the need for feminism by using the metic of abuse as the common factor between the two examples without realizing that the very premise is flawed.
 

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Btw, not that I ever made the comparison of women and children in the sense that I am being accused of, but why is it alright for men to be likened to cruel barbarians that only abuse women and then why I say something about women and children there are women here that get offended by comparisons?
No one is offended -just confused becase you keep comparing women to children but then don't substantiate why that comparison is appropriate. Abuse of power is the common theme but you havent dealt with the fact that children NEED an authority figure because they are children. Feminism would be as negative as you say if the same could be said for women: if women need authority figure as well. Otherwise you analogy falls flat.
 
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