BTS discussion thread

[Strawberrypie]

“C0DïV-19”.

Yes, of course none of them is innocent as you say. But musically it doesn’t mean than I don’t like them vocally or artistically as actors for example (Dyo),, (or TaeTae vocals from “The Era of the Girls”) and that they don’t work their ass off to be the good artist and entertainents they are.

Get away from the Hallyu Wave if you feel like it, but that doesn’t mean that you don’t like some stuff from them professionally speaking. And as I say this to you is also an advice for myself. Don’t attach to it emotionally, but that does not mean that you don’t enjoy the art if it makes you feel good and inspire you to be better. And what you don’t like from other ”layers” of the person, just dispatch it.

There's so many names for that horrible disease. It's changed the very fabric of cultures and humankind. I can't separate the person from their art. Once I know what type of person they are, I can't listen anymore. I still listen to btees time to time but have mostly weaned myself from their stuff. That's why I don't listen to most rap music and a lot of other people who are amazing artists but horrible people. I can't support their work. I've stopped listening to artists for hitting fans, abusing women, being terrible to fans or negative people. If btees are in the occult, satanism, or masons, I can't keep listening to them. That's supporting their work. I'd rather support an artist that's not a shill for the elite.

 

[arhur12]

I wouldn’t call those people “fans”, since they hate the other people from the fandom (real fans). Detest the real fans and throw shit to the artist (the ones they don’t like) and act like saessangs.

Instead of be a true fan and support solo and group activities and see the artists happy about

It's two of them, brothers who killed themselves the same day. It's very suspicious. Amber from fx was friends with one of them. Their friends didn't know what happened for a week. She was so affected by her friend's death, she took 6 months away from the group.

That happens all the time. What's the point of SuperM? It's supposed to be a way to make money while members of the main group are away for military service.

Infinite seemed pretty good. The fansite of Jk used to be L's until she exposed his dating. There's a lot of decent groups but they don't get a chance with btees. I think ex0 was purposely sabotaged to make way for btees. I don't blame them for boycotting the shows. Maybe that's why Ba+ekhyun and Tae aren't as close anymore.

Leave Bacon alone! Jk lol, but he even supported Kai when he released the song Mmmh. He recently went into the military, so wondering what he will do when he's back.

The situation with Chen was horrible. People saying terrible things to his baby and wife. He's old enough to do what he wants. They should be happy for him. I wasn't a fan of everyone in btees but didn't spend time hating on them. I was a Tae and Jk stan, although I started with Rm, Jh and Sg. Now I can't stand Tae. He's the gateway drug for Armys. After getting hooked, everyone finds a new bias. His personality, lack of enthusiasm and disdain for his fans are a turn off.

Hey no one is saying anything bad about ba3khyun he is one of my favourites in x-0 but you can't deny that some of his so called fans are toxic.
Bt5 are fake they are as fake as these western celebrities ever since they blew up they don't ever talk about their korean idol friends in interviews they never collab with korean idols every interview they ask them who do you listen to you want to work with they always talk about western celebrities. They never promote their friends.
About chen's scandal it was horrible what they did to him but it was expected premarital pregnancy is a huge scandal in a conservative country like Korea. Western country fans don't understand it because western celebs hardly ever care about morals but as someone who also lives in a very conservative country that thing can destroy careers.

 

[arhur12]

There's so many names for that horrible disease. It's changed the very fabric of cultures and humankind. I can't separate the person from their art. Once I know what type of person they are, I can't listen anymore. I still listen to btees time to time but have mostly weaned myself from their stuff. That's why I don't listen to most rap music and a lot of other people who are amazing artists but horrible people. I can't support their work. I've stopped listening to artists for hitting fans, abusing women, being terrible to fans or negative people. If btees are in the occult, satanism, or masons, I can't keep listening to them. That's supporting their work. I'd rather support an artist that's not a shill for the elite.

Yeah the most important thing for me is their moral character no matter how good their music is if they are bad people in real life I can't listen to their music. I have mostly stopped listening to bt5 ever since I learned about the meaning of blood sweat and tears. I still listen to x-0, sh1nee, red velvet from time to time but I never buy any merch or albums

 

[queen82]

It's two of them, brothers who killed themselves the same day. It's very suspicious. Amber from fx was friends with one of them. Their friends didn't know what happened for a week. She was so affected by her friend's death, she took 6 months away from the group.

That happens all the time. What's the point of SuperM? It's supposed to be a way to make money while members of the main group are away for military service.

Infinite seemed pretty good. The fansite of Jk used to be L's until she exposed his dating. There's a lot of decent groups but they don't get a chance with btees. I think ex0 was purposely sabotaged to make way for btees. I don't blame them for boycotting the shows. Maybe that's why Ba+ekhyun and Tae aren't as close anymore.

Leave Bacon alone! Jk lol, but he even supported Kai when he released the song Mmmh. He recently went into the military, so wondering what he will do when he's back.

The situation with Chen was horrible. People saying terrible things to his baby and wife. He's old enough to do what he wants. They should be happy for him. I wasn't a fan of everyone in btees but didn't spend time hating on them. I was a Tae and Jk stan, although I started with Rm, Jh and Sg. Now I can't stand Tae. He's the gateway drug for Armys. After getting hooked, everyone finds a new bias. His personality, lack of enthusiasm and disdain for his fans are a turn off.

The rose are pretty good too, too bad they were under a shitty agency ..

 

[queen82]

Hey no one is saying anything bad about ba3khyun he is one of my favourites in x-0 but you can't deny that some of his so called fans are toxic.
Bt5 are fake they are as fake as these western celebrities ever since they blew up they don't ever talk about their korean idol friends in interviews they never collab with korean idols every interview they ask them who do you listen to you want to work with they always talk about western celebrities. They never promote their friends.
About chen's scandal it was horrible what they did to him but it was expected premarital pregnancy is a huge scandal in a conservative country like Korea. Western country fans don't understand it because western celebs hardly ever care about morals but as someone who also lives in a very conservative country that thing can destroy careers.

i remember that Hoseok was or is close friend with Eunha Kim , from the girl group The Ark, he also dished about their friendship and army said he just want protect her , i guess they're not friend anymore since she's not at his level ..

 

[ScarlettRose]

Yeah the most important thing for me is their moral character no matter how good their music is if they are bad people in real life I can't listen to their music. I have mostly stopped listening to bt5 ever since I learned about the meaning of blood sweat and tears. I still listen to x-0, sh1nee, red velvet from time to time but I never buy any merch or albums

Qantas the meaning? I don’t like the song anymore, but the Wings greaser song is good (but not the MV). And I still like some songs from the Wings album.

 

[arhur12]

Qantas the meaning? I don’t like the song anymore, but the Wings greaser song is good (but not the MV). And I still like some songs from the Wings album.

Blood sweat and tears is their initiation ritual. The concept behind the Wings album is that the jewish God is an inaccurrate depiction of God and God has both good and bad sides so if a person wants to reach their true potential through self realization they have to accept the good with the bad in the mv all members commit a sin which opens their eyes to the world.

 

[arhur12]

Very informative article exposing bt5

BTS: Generational Icons or Misogynists?

On Sep. 24, South Korean boy group BTS gave a speech on empowerment and love at the United Nations headquarters in New York City. The event marked the launch of “Generation Unlimited”—a partnership between the UN and UNICEF that aims to promote education and empowerment for young people.

www.koreaexpose.com

Lyrics of War of hormones
Translation
My eyes keep turning to the girls (yup)
Girls are like an equation, us guys just do them (yup)
Wear them more, your high heels I’m 18,
I know what I need to know I know that girls are the best things in the world
Yes I’m a bad boy so i like bad girl Come here baby, we’re gonna hit it off...
It’s completely ridiculous I don’t care about girls
I’ll play with once and say goodbye But I learn when I see you,
Body 101 My testosterone heavily shows up After winning a war of hormones
I’ll do some research, your existence is against the rules,
a foul If the standard of beauty is in the ocean,
you’re the Seriously Sea 1 A mini cultural asset that should be taken care of on a national level
Her hair, body, waist, legs, even her other unspeakable parts
Saying I don’t care would be ridiculous as a guy I lose it just at her tiniest gestures
Girl, your temptations keep me away from my computer every night
For her, it’s lady first
Girls are like cold ice mountains?
Let it go A female that drives me crazy, provoking me every day
After fighting my hormones again today, I’ll pop my pimple...

They made jungk00k sing this when he was a minor going through puberty.................

Supreme boi a guy who was supposed to be the 8th member of bt5 and is still close to bt5 and works for them worked with iron another problematic person on a song "rollin" which is about a man's r*pe fantasy no apology was issued despite being called out.
https://hiphopkr.com/translatedlyrics/iron-roll-feat-kidoh/
His crewmember iron was caught in drugs scandal and was arrested for beating up his gf he still supported iron. Iron commit suicide in the beginning of 2021


Bobby Chung one of HyB3's prodcucers was involved in a r*pe/suicide scandal

Bobby Chung denies connection with suicide

Bobby Chung of the Autumn Vacation duo denied rumors Wednesday evening about any connection with the suicide of his ex-girlfriend, who was a trainee singer. <br/>The singer, whose real name is Chung Dae-wook, was accused by the ex-girlfriend’s family...

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

This is very recent

Bobby Chung again embroiled in allegations of sexual misconduct

Singer Bobby Chung has again been embroiled in allegations of sexual misconduct. The Seoul Mapo Police Station forwarded a case against Chung for alleged illegal filming and assault to the prosecutor’s office on Monday. Chung, a member of the ...

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

And everybody knows about suga's jim jones controversy.
They say you are defined by who you chose to associate with if bt5 are involved with so many problematic people and have done so many shady things in the past what does it say about their character? rookie idols from small companies get cancelled for even the smallest of mistakes but no one calls out bt5 ever.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Hey no one is saying anything bad about ba3khyun he is one of my favourites in x-0 but you can't deny that some of his so called fans are toxic.
Bt5 are fake they are as fake as these western celebrities ever since they blew up they don't ever talk about their korean idol friends in interviews they never collab with korean idols every interview they ask them who do you listen to you want to work with they always talk about western celebrities. They never promote their friends.
About chen's scandal it was horrible what they did to him but it was expected premarital pregnancy is a huge scandal in a conservative country like Korea. Western country fans don't understand it because western celebs hardly ever care about morals but as someone who also lives in a very conservative country that thing can destroy careers.

I like Bacon haha. He's what Tae would have been like if he hadn't been derailed. His grandparent's deaths, the occult activities in btees, position in the group and mental health made him an empty shell next to Ba3khyun. I've heard bad stuff about Bacon, but try to find something good about him. It's because E+o was sidetracked by Sm, that makes them even more interesting. There's something going on with e+o because the president was all over Ba3khyun before Tae. There's rumors that Chen is not happy with his situation. I understand why he married her because my family is conservative. The newer generation is different but the older members of my family were very traditional. Things have changed too fast in society and it's not good. I hope he can be happy with his family and find joy in the daily things.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Yeah the most important thing for me is their moral character no matter how good their music is if they are bad people in real life I can't listen to their music. I have mostly stopped listening to bt5 ever since I learned about the meaning of blood sweat and tears. I still listen to x-0, sh1nee, red velvet from time to time but I never buy any merch or albums

When I find out negative things about celebrities, I stop listening to or watching their stuff. Media can be so influential and I don't want to be influenced by those kinds of people. I won't support anyone who looks down on me or sees me as lesser. It's well known that btees prefers their Karmys despite only talking about Western artists. Iarmys say it ok, but if a western artist did that, it wouldn't be allowed. They get away with bad behavior because people think they don't know better.

Very informative article exposing bt5

BTS: Generational Icons or Misogynists?

On Sep. 24, South Korean boy group BTS gave a speech on empowerment and love at the United Nations headquarters in New York City. The event marked the launch of “Generation Unlimited”—a partnership between the UN and UNICEF that aims to promote education and empowerment for young people.

www.koreaexpose.com

Lyrics of War of hormones
Translation
My eyes keep turning to the girls (yup)
Girls are like an equation, us guys just do them (yup)
Wear them more, your high heels I’m 18,
I know what I need to know I know that girls are the best things in the world
Yes I’m a bad boy so i like bad girl Come here baby, we’re gonna hit it off...
It’s completely ridiculous I don’t care about girls
I’ll play with once and say goodbye But I learn when I see you,
Body 101 My testosterone heavily shows up After winning a war of hormones
I’ll do some research, your existence is against the rules,
a foul If the standard of beauty is in the ocean,
you’re the Seriously Sea 1 A mini cultural asset that should be taken care of on a national level
Her hair, body, waist, legs, even her other unspeakable parts
Saying I don’t care would be ridiculous as a guy I lose it just at her tiniest gestures
Girl, your temptations keep me away from my computer every night
For her, it’s lady first
Girls are like cold ice mountains?
Let it go A female that drives me crazy, provoking me every day
After fighting my hormones again today, I’ll pop my pimple...

They made jungk00k sing this when he was a minor going through puberty.................

Supreme boi a guy who was supposed to be the 8th member of bt5 and is still close to bt5 and works for them worked with iron another problematic person on a song "rollin" which is about a man's r*pe fantasy no apology was issued despite being called out.
https://hiphopkr.com/translatedlyrics/iron-roll-feat-kidoh/
His crewmember iron was caught in drugs scandal and was arrested for beating up his gf he still supported iron. Iron commit suicide in the beginning of 2021


Bobby Chung one of HyB3's prodcucers was involved in a r*pe/suicide scandal

Bobby Chung denies connection with suicide

Bobby Chung of the Autumn Vacation duo denied rumors Wednesday evening about any connection with the suicide of his ex-girlfriend, who was a trainee singer. <br/>The singer, whose real name is Chung Dae-wook, was accused by the ex-girlfriend’s family...

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

This is very recent

Bobby Chung again embroiled in allegations of sexual misconduct

Singer Bobby Chung has again been embroiled in allegations of sexual misconduct. The Seoul Mapo Police Station forwarded a case against Chung for alleged illegal filming and assault to the prosecutor’s office on Monday. Chung, a member of the ...

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

And everybody knows about suga's jim jones controversy.
They say you are defined by who you chose to associate with if bt5 are involved with so many problematic people and have done so many shady things in the past what does it say about their character? rookie idols from small companies get cancelled for even the smallest of mistakes but no one calls out bt5 ever.

The rapper who called Suga and Rm out, Bfree, he's in jail for assault. The people around them have poor characters. When he says pop his pimple, he doesn't mean the one on his face does he? I don't want to think about that.

I can't stand Suga after the Jim Jones song. That man killed hundreds of people. Primarily blacks, children, elderly and poor people. The most vulnerable were taken into the jungle and murdered. They thought they were building a racial utopia. It was hell on earth. There's so many good articles and books on what happened. There's no excuse for using his voice on a song. It's also said that Suga is very nationalistic and doesn't like Iarmys.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Here's some good info about the Jim Jones murders.

The pervasive myth almost everyone believes about Jonestown

Even people who don't know the story of Jonestown know the phrase it spawned: drinking...

www.sfgate.com

Spoiler: Nsfw

Horrible Photos From the 1978 Jonestown Massacre, the Worst Mass Murder-Suicide in U.S. History

November 18 marked the 40th anniversary of the mass murder-suicide of more than 900 people, most of them Americans who were members of a Cal...

www.vintag.es

The Black Hole of Guyana--The Untold Story of the Jonestown Massacre, John Judge, 1985

 

[arhur12]

I like Bacon haha. He's what Tae would have been like if he hadn't been derailed. His grandparent's deaths, the occult activities in btees, position in the group and mental health made him an empty shell next to Ba3khyun. I've heard bad stuff about Bacon, but try to find something good about him. It's because E+o was sidetracked by Sm, that makes them even more interesting. There's something going on with e+o because the president was all over Ba3khyun before Tae. There's rumors that Chen is not happy with his situation. I understand why he married her because my family is conservative. The newer generation is different but the older members of my family were very traditional. Things have changed too fast in society and it's not good. I hope he can be happy with his family and find joy in the daily things.

I like bacon too almost all members of x-0 are more interesting then bt5. Idk what happened in 5m that made them drop x-0 maybe its because they are going through enlistment right now. The thing with JD is he is a devout catholic and is a member of his church he was known to be a very charitable person as well so the scandal was even more shocking for knetz because it broke his good christian boy image.
I am sorry I don't understand what you mean with the president over ba3khyun before Tae but if you are talking about lee freemason than that was only because of his huge sales he was never their Golden boy Taem!n has always been 5m's favourite boy he was the first group member to debut as a soloist in the history of 5m and 5m has always treated him like he was lee soo man's long lost son the entire company was being all emotional over his enlistment like he was going to actual war sending him farewell video and stuff while ba3khyun and chanyeol were given nothing but T@emin himself is a very humble and hardworking and sweet person so I don't mind him getting special treatment from his company.

 

[queen82]

want to share this :

 

[HmmM.]

Woah the most amazing dedicated fandom I've ever seen. Just say you are true army. Otherwise why talking about them day and night? You know everything still continue to discuss same thing, don't have anything better to do?

 

[HmmM.]

Guess what,, occultists not only lurk here,, they are dedicated to this forum, this thread is no different. Some of you are brainwashed same as armys. You know why? Cause you never consider the fact that manipulators are everywhere, not just media. Occultists are playing with your mind here.
Lurkers, a question to brainstorm, ever thought how the thread goes back and forth bts is victim or not? Sad or not? Hmmm....
P.s:~ Its not troll......

 

[Love Life]

Guess what,, occultists not only lurk here,, they are dedicated to this forum, this thread is no different. Some of you are brainwashed same as armys. You know why? Cause you never consider the fact that manipulators are everywhere, not just media. Occultists are playing with your mind here.
Lurkers, a question to brainstorm, ever thought how the thread goes back and forth bts is victim or not? Sad or not? Hmmm....
P.s:~ Its not troll......

How are YOU so sure about this? Are you one of them?

 

[HmmM.]

How are YOU so sure about this? Are you one of them?

 

[Strawberrypie]

I like bacon too almost all members of x-0 are more interesting then bt5. Idk what happened in 5m that made them drop x-0 maybe its because they are going through enlistment right now. The thing with JD is he is a devout catholic and is a member of his church he was known to be a very charitable person as well so the scandal was even more shocking for knetz because it broke his good christian boy image.
I am sorry I don't understand what you mean with the president over ba3khyun before Tae but if you are talking about lee freemason than that was only because of his huge sales he was never their Golden boy Taem!n has always been 5m's favourite boy he was the first group member to debut as a soloist in the history of 5m and 5m has always treated him like he was lee soo man's long lost son the entire company was being all emotional over his enlistment like he was going to actual war sending him farewell video and stuff while ba3khyun and chanyeol were given nothing but T@emin himself is a very humble and hardworking and sweet person so I don't mind him getting special treatment from his company.

They're a lot more interesting than btees. Things can happen even to religious people. We all make mistakes and he owned up to what he did. People expecting him to be perfect is weird. We're imperfect and strive to do better each day with God's help and each other.

There's rumors on another forum that he was used by the president in a certain way. It's also possible the same happened to Tae and Jk. We speculate a lot about kpop on this forum. So take what I'm saying with a grain of salt. Supposedly he's an escort and using drugs.

When Bacon joined the military, he made a video. It was very cute and he was trying to cheer up fans. I'm a casual fan, but it made me happy. I hope he has a fast service and returns better than he left.

How are YOU so sure about this? Are you one of them?

This is why I don't share more because we don't know who's watching this thread.

 

[Strawberrypie]

want to share this :

They sound a lot better than btees. I'll check them out!

 

[Strawberrypie]

@lal golapi Jonestown was possibly one of the last Mk Ultra sites. Since Suga chose to sample a song from Rev Jim Jones, it's more unusual. His sermons are sampled over and over. A case of the elite mocking the suffering they've caused or a clue?