The TRUE BIBLICAL TRUTH; Esau will fall, Jacob will rise

[Lyfe]

What would you know about The Law that you refuse to keep and claim was given to us to condemn us? Absolutely NOTHING.

Your a lawbreaker. To tell me otherwise is to stand before yourself and God and contend you dont sin in your heart and thoughts. If you sin once, that is breaking the entire law. thats not me, that is scripture. You can take it up with the lord, but there is no other way to interpret these passages. Eve sin once and she tasted death. That is the severity and penalty and condemnation for just one sin. She broke the law and faced the consequences. This is the holiness of God and the law. You either keep the law blamelessly, or you fail in one point and become a lawbreaker and break the entire law.

 

[Gnome]

Im telling freeman this, because the law doesnt save, nor does pointing anyone to the law saves. In fact it only leaves someone in their sins. If you knew the gospel of Jesus Christ you would understand this. Christ and Christ alone saves. The law has shutup the whole world in sin. It reveals peoples need for Christ and his perfect righteousness. Paul denounced false gospels, because they did not save. The law does not save. It only reveals ones need for Christ as a guilty law breaker.

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[Lyfe]

Why don't you keep the law?

I am not under the law. I was redeemed and freed from the jurisdiction of the law, because where the law is not present in authority there is no transgression or record of transgression being counted against me. If you want a system that keeps account of wrong that is the law, but there is only being guilty under the law. You either keep the law blamelessly if you live by that righteousness, or you are a lawbreaker. Its like I keep saying there is no in between. What does that tell you? It should tell you to run to Christ, because only his perfect righteousness can acquit your guilt before God.

These are basic and well understood concepts of theology, or so they used to be. If you live by the Torah you will be judged by the Torah and found guilty of every time you transgressed it. There are no exceptions. You will be found guilty before God according to the law and condemned.

 

[Gnome]

I am not under the law. I was redeemed and freed from the jurisdiction of the law, because where the law is not present in authority there is no transgression or record of transgression being counted against me. If you want a system that keeps account of wrong that is the law, but there is only being guilty under the law. You either keep the law blamelessly if you live by that righteousness, or you are a lawbreaker. Its like I keep saying there is no in between. What does that tell you? It should tell you to run to Christ, because only his perfect righteousness can acquit your guilt before God.

These are basic and well understood concepts of theology, or so they used to be. If you live by the Torah you will be judged by the Torah and found guilty of every time you transgressed it. There are no exceptions. You will be found guilty before God according to the law and condemned.

And if you don't follow the Torah at all then that must be worse than transgressing the Torah because you haven't even tried to follow it.

Jesus tells you to follow the commandments, you should listen to him. Only the false apostle Paul tells you not to.


Your antinomian view leans towards atheism, because you can just say "If I don't believe in God and reject all religions then I'll have a good afterlife". Odd position to have Lyfe.

 

[Lyfe]

And if you don't follow the Torah at all then that must be worse than transgressing the Torah because you haven't even tried to follow it.

Jesus tells you to follow the commandments, you should listen to him. Only the false apostle Paul tells you not to.


Your antinomian view leans towards atheism, because you can just say "If I don't believe in God and reject all religions then I'll have a good afterlife". Odd position to have Lyfe.

Why do you go through so many accounts?

 

[Gnome]

Why do you go through so many accounts?

Because if you don't understand how the account of not following the law relates to the nature of the law itself, then you will end up disproving yourself through faulty logic. Such accounts are important to know because they show how your logic does lead clearly to atheism.

 

[Gnome]

I find it very strange and indefensible. All the more reason to stay away from the Abrahamic religions.

 

[Lyfe]

Because if you don't understand how the account of not following the law relates to the nature of the law itself, then you will end up disproving yourself through faulty logic. Such accounts are important to know because they show how your logic does lead clearly to atheism.

No,

You dont understand what justification and regeneration means. You insinuate that the law is the answer to the worldiness and sin of todays wayward state of Christianity. It is not the answer. The truth is that most professing Christians have never been born again. They dont need the law, because the law cannot deliver them or save them from the power of sin and their carnal desires. Only Jesus Christ and the holy spirit of God can... You can keep throwing laws at someone, yet if their heart still lusts after these things they have not changed and their heart is still filled with sin and imagining sin. They need to be regenerated by the holy spirit. These people who claim to be Christian dont need the law. They need to be pointed to Jesus and hear the real gospel. They need to get born again and filled with the holy spirit. Anyone who points them back to the law or tries to put them under the law does not know the gospel of Jesus Christ. I used to be an alcoholic and a porn viewer. I used to love wordly entertainment. Did the law save me or heal me or deliver me from these things and desiring these things? No, the holy spirit did! The law cannot save you. It cant heal you. It can only give you rules to follow. God and the holy spirit changes a human heart and deals with the root of these problems.

 

[A Freeman]

Your a lawbreaker.

According to your judgmental "self"? How would you know?

James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of [his] brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of The Law, and judgeth The Law: but if thou judge The Law, thou art not a doer of The Law, but a judge.

To tell me otherwise is to stand before yourself and God and contend you dont sin in your heart and thoughts.

What exactly do you find so difficult about keeping The Law? Are you incapable of exercising enough discipline and self-control that you don't commit adultery or murder? Are you incapable of refraining from theft? Are you not in control of your own mind perhaps?

Why does Scripture repeatedly tell us that we can and MUST keep The Law/Commandments of God, while you claim we can't and don't need to?

1 John 3:7-9
3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he (Christ) is righteous.
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the Beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
3:9 Whosoever is born of God (John 3:3-7) doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Do you believe Christ told us we MUST be born again of God from above, so we could continue to ignore God's COMMANDS and Christ's True Teachings, so we can pretend we've been "saved"?

If you sin once, that is breaking the entire law.

SO STOP SINNING/BREAKING THE LAW. Are you claiming Christ lied when He said that ALL things are possible WITH God?

1 John 2:1-7
2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2:2 And he is the atonement for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, IF we keep His Commandments.
2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth NOT His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is NOT in him.
2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he (Christ) walked.
2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old Commandment which ye had from the Beginning. The old Commandment is The Word which ye have heard from the Beginning.

thats not me, that is scripture.

So STOP SINNING/BREAKING THE LAW and start DOING what we've been COMMANDED to do by God through every single prophet, through Christ, and through all of His Disciples, Apostles and Messengers since then.

Christ said He did NOT come to destroy The Law which would NEVER go away, and that anyone who taught others to break The Law/Commandments would be considered the lowest of the low in God's Eyes (Matt. 5:17-19). THAT is His REAL Gospel (Good News Message): that even at this late hour, all will be forgiven if we simply turn from our evil ways to Him and Father, AND KEEP THE LAW/COMMANDMENTS.

Paul said the same thing, letting everyone know that he was keeping The Law (Rom. 7:25), that The Law/Commandments are holy, just and good (Rom. 7:12), that he was establishing The Law everywhere he went (Rom. 3:31) and that only DOERS of The Law shall be justified (Rom. 2:13).

In fact, it's the same throughout the Bible. ALL of the prophets taught obedience to God. And yet here you are, advocating others just pretend The Law has been done away with, and therefore you won't be judged by it, when in fact anyone who believes as you do is guaranteed to burn for their selfish/sinful/evil behavior according to Christ (Matt. 16:27, Rev. 20:12-15).

Matthew 16:27 For the Son of Man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his WORKS.

Revelation 20:12-15
20:12 And I saw the "Dead", small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another Book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life: and the "Dead" were judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works.
20:13 And the "sea" gave up the "Dead" which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their WORKS.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the "Lake of Fire". This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the "Lake of Fire".

You can take it up with the lord, but there is no other way to interpret these passages.

We will ALL be brought before Christ (the Judge - John 5:22) on Judgment Day, when each of us is due to be judged ACCORDING TO OUR WORKS. So we all ought to be on our best behavior, considering we are all on death row, in this maximum security prison planet reform school for the criminally insane.

Anyone who claims to be “SAVED” already, is WRONG. We do not mark our own test. Only the Lord marks our test and none of us will have ANY say in it. That is why we would all do well to learn some fresh and real humility and start again, this time DOING what the Lord says and not what we decide ourselves. The “Self” has to be “crucified DAILY” until it is DEAD and the sole objective is to serve The Lord and the common good, keeping the COMMANDments; Covenants; His Laws and Ways and NOT our own.

Eve sin once and she tasted death. That is the severity and penalty and condemnation for just one sin. She broke the law and faced the consequences. This is the holiness of God and the law. You either keep the law blamelessly, or you fail in one point and become a lawbreaker and break the entire law.

SO KEEP THE LAW - ALL OF IT. We've all had 6000 years to learn one simple thing: OBEY GOD ONLY.

Who do you think doesn't want us to obey God? Lucifer/Satan/Iblis. Stop listening to Satan and start listening to God and His Christ.

Peace be upon you.

 

[shankara]

How many times did you sin in your heart and thoughts today freeman? How many sins done in omission, in thought?

Thinking that it's possible to sin in one's "heart and thoughts" isn't so logical. The things we don't consciously think, our subconscious is thinking anyway. Trying to repress "sinful thoughts" is a futile exercise and a cause of neurosis. In meditation it's necessary just to observe the thoughts, not judging them. Then we get free from them, whether they are "good thoughts" or "bad thoughts".

 

[LittleLady]

Your a lawbreaker. To tell me otherwise is to stand before yourself and God and contend you dont sin in your heart and thoughts. If you sin once, that is breaking the entire law. thats not me, that is scripture. You can take it up with the lord, but there is no other way to interpret these passages. Eve sin once and she tasted death. That is the severity and penalty and condemnation for just one sin. She broke the law and faced the consequences. This is the holiness of God and the law. You either keep the law blamelessly, or you fail in one point and become a lawbreaker and break the entire law.

And this is why I keep telling you over and over again that God says he will have mercy on Israel because he knows his people cannot possibly keep all laws all while living in this babylonian society. You keep ignoring this conclusion and keep concluding that Freeman is in trouble for not following the law, and yet before that, you say we don't have to follow the law. This leads me to conclude that you're twisting your own words whether it makes sense or not just to be right. You go from, "You're a lawbreaker" which shouldn't matter to you since you claim we don't have to follow it, and then you say, "We are not to follow the law," I don't know what to tell you anymore.

 

[seekinheart]

Thinking that it's possible to sin in one's "heart and thoughts" isn't so logical. The things we don't consciously think, our subconscious is thinking anyway. Trying to repress "sinful thoughts" is a futile exercise and a cause of neurosis. In meditation it's necessary just to observe the thoughts, not judging them. Then we get free from them, whether they are "good thoughts" or "bad thoughts".

which is why u are justified by faith alone.

 

[Lyfe]

Thinking that it's possible to sin in one's "heart and thoughts" isn't so logical. The things we don't consciously think, our subconscious is thinking anyway. Trying to repress "sinful thoughts" is a futile exercise and a cause of neurosis. In meditation it's necessary just to observe the thoughts, not judging them. Then we get free from them, whether they are "good thoughts" or "bad thoughts".

Logical isnt always scriptural as Gods ways are higher than ours. We sin in our thoughts and attitudes. Do you have a mother or sibling? Imagine if some random person thought evil or perverted thoughts toward them. That is sinning against Gods laws as its a failure to love him and your neighbor as yourself.

 

[Lyfe]

And this is why I keep telling you over and over again that God says he will have mercy on Israel because he knows his people cannot possibly keep all laws all while living in this babylonian society. You keep ignoring this conclusion and keep concluding that Freeman is in trouble for not following the law, and yet before that, you say we don't have to follow the law. This leads me to conclude that you're twisting your own words whether it makes sense or not just to be right. You go from, "You're a lawbreaker" which shouldn't matter to you since you claim we don't have to follow it, and then you say, "We are not to follow the law," I don't know what to tell you anymore.

The law doesnt change. Not one jot or title. The Bible says that cursed is everyone that doesnt peform all things according to the law. Paul said you are a debtor to do all of it. Im the only one between us going off of scripture where u are going off of ur misled ideas here. Im the one basing my responses off the scripture. The law does not show partiality and even the laws you can keep you still break. Freeman is in trouble for not keeping the law because that is the righteousness he lives by. You too are a lawbreaker if that is the righteousness you live by if you are going off the scripture. Your not alnost righteous even if you keep most of the laws. If you sin once you break the entire law and are a lawbreaker.

 

[Lyfe]

According to your judgmental "self"? How would you know?

James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of [his] brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of The Law, and judgeth The Law: but if thou judge The Law, thou art not a doer of The Law, but a judge.


What exactly do you find so difficult about keeping The Law? Are you incapable of exercising enough discipline and self-control that you don't commit adultery or murder? Are you incapable of refraining from theft? Are you not in control of your own mind perhaps?

Why does Scripture repeatedly tell us that we can and MUST keep The Law/Commandments of God, while you claim we can't and don't need to?

1 John 3:7-9
3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he (Christ) is righteous.
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the Beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
3:9 Whosoever is born of God (John 3:3-7) doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Do you believe Christ told us we MUST be born again of God from above, so we could continue to ignore God's COMMANDS and Christ's True Teachings, so we can pretend we've been "saved"?


SO STOP SINNING/BREAKING THE LAW. Are you claiming Christ lied when He said that ALL things are possible WITH God?

1 John 2:1-7
2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2:2 And he is the atonement for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, IF we keep His Commandments.
2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth NOT His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is NOT in him.
2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he (Christ) walked.
2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old Commandment which ye had from the Beginning. The old Commandment is The Word which ye have heard from the Beginning.


So STOP SINNING/BREAKING THE LAW and start DOING what we've been COMMANDED to do by God through every single prophet, through Christ, and through all of His Disciples, Apostles and Messengers since then.

Christ said He did NOT come to destroy The Law which would NEVER go away, and that anyone who taught others to break The Law/Commandments would be considered the lowest of the low in God's Eyes (Matt. 5:17-19). THAT is His REAL Gospel (Good News Message): that even at this late hour, all will be forgiven if we simply turn from our evil ways to Him and Father, AND KEEP THE LAW/COMMANDMENTS.

Paul said the same thing, letting everyone know that he was keeping The Law (Rom. 7:25), that The Law/Commandments are holy, just and good (Rom. 7:12), that he was establishing The Law everywhere he went (Rom. 3:31) and that only DOERS of The Law shall be justified (Rom. 2:13).

In fact, it's the same throughout the Bible. ALL of the prophets taught obedience to God. And yet here you are, advocating others just pretend The Law has been done away with, and therefore you won't be judged by it, when in fact anyone who believes as you do is guaranteed to burn for their selfish/sinful/evil behavior according to Christ (Matt. 16:27, Rev. 20:12-15).

Matthew 16:27 For the Son of Man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his WORKS.

Revelation 20:12-15
20:12 And I saw the "Dead", small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another Book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life: and the "Dead" were judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works.
20:13 And the "sea" gave up the "Dead" which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their WORKS.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the "Lake of Fire". This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the "Lake of Fire".


We will ALL be brought before Christ (the Judge - John 5:22) on Judgment Day, when each of us is due to be judged ACCORDING TO OUR WORKS. So we all ought to be on our best behavior, considering we are all on death row, in this maximum security prison planet reform school for the criminally insane.

Anyone who claims to be “SAVED” already, is WRONG. We do not mark our own test. Only the Lord marks our test and none of us will have ANY say in it. That is why we would all do well to learn some fresh and real humility and start again, this time DOING what the Lord says and not what we decide ourselves. The “Self” has to be “crucified DAILY” until it is DEAD and the sole objective is to serve The Lord and the common good, keeping the COMMANDments; Covenants; His Laws and Ways and NOT our own.


SO KEEP THE LAW - ALL OF IT. We've all had 6000 years to learn one simple thing: OBEY GOD ONLY.

Who do you think doesn't want us to obey God? Lucifer/Satan/Iblis. Stop listening to Satan and start listening to God and His Christ.

Peace be upon you.

Your judging and condemning yourself by your own standards freeman. Go ask God how many times you sinned today and this week... You failed to keep the law and are a lawbreaker and keep condemning yourself by your own standards...

 

[A Freeman]

Your judging and condemning yourself by your own standards freeman. Go ask God how many times you sinned today and this week... You failed to keep the law and are a lawbreaker and keep condemning yourself by your own standards...

You keep talking about things you know absolutely nothing about. We will ALL be judged by The Law, exactly as it says throughout Scripture.

If you take the exact opposite of everything you say, then you would be closer to the Truth. Was Paul judging and condemning himself when he told the truth that he himself was keeping The Law?

Romans 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind (Being) I myself serve The Law of God; but with the flesh (human) the law of sin.

Do you really believe the solution is to ignore The Law and pretend that Father (God) will reward us for being habitual criminals? If one actually believes Christ, then they will DO what Christ has COMMANDED us to do.

And what did Christ COMMAND us to do? KEEP THE LAW/COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.

Anyone who doesn't do that doesn't love Christ, doesn't know Christ and will burn for their continued rebellion against God and Christ on Judgment Day. It is therefore YOU who are condemning yourself, by judging by your own made up standard instead of The Law, spreading the LIE that we can somehow pretend to believe while continuing to show with our actions that we do not.

The Gospel (Good News) Message is this: even at this late-hour all we need to do is REPENT of our evil deeds/sins/lawlessness, return to keeping The Law, and NEVER look back.

Malachi 4
4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness (Christ - John 8:3) arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts.
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" (Sura 43:61):
4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (see verse 1 for details of the curse).

 

[Lyfe]

You are a criminal by the same standard you are meausring criminality with freeman and become a transgressor by rebuilding that which is destroyed in Christ. You can deny it all you wwnt but by estabilishing and pointing others back to the jurisdiction of the law you are making them out to be guilty sinners liable for judgment. You dont seem to understand that or what the law requires, which is absolute perfection. Anything less is a complete and utter violation of the entire law and by the same law you are a guilty sinner that wont be judged by the laws you did keep, but rather the laws you broke and failed to keep. Its a pretty sobering reality that despite your best efforts to keep the law that just one sin is a breach of every single jot and title of the law. Thats why there is no in between. There is only the perfect imputed righteousness of Christ, or nothing... You have a rude awakening if you think the law makes you appear righteous more than it does a sinner. Its like I keep saying you would cringe at the idea of pointing others to the law if God revealed to you just how many times you sinned this week alone without you being aware of it... You are a sinner and lawbreaker by the very righteousness you promote freeman while pointing out to others they serve the devil for not keeping the law you do the same by your oen standard and the laws standard. You dont keep the law freeman. You are a lawbreaker, unless of course you would continue to deceive yourself and God by stating that God in his infinite mind that searches and knows the heart s cannot pinpoint a single time you sinned today or within the last week. And if ya did then it means you broke the entire law just by committing one sin. That's the reality of the law and what's revealed through scripture. You have another thing coming to you if you think the law will win you favor with God on jidgment day, because it judges without partiality and not based off of striving, but by acctually doing...

 

[A Freeman]

To help others who may be struggling with the very basic concept of good and evil, please consider the following:-

We are all spiritual-Beings (Souls) who are temporarily "locked" inside of these human-animal bodies, to learn how to control them in every situation that our Creator provides to test us. Until this is truly understood, it's impossible to understand even the simplest of concepts in the Bible, including the basic concept of good and evil.

What seems "good" to the body is often (if not always) bad for the spirit-Being within. And it is what is best for the eternal spirit-Being (Soul) that matters. The human animal is self-serving, always looking to acquire what it believes makes it happy and gives it the illusion of being in control.

Every single word and action we have begins with a thought. We therefore logically need to learn to control/purify our thoughts, so that our words and actions stem from those purified thoughts. Otherwise, we will continue serving the flesh, with its carnal desires, completely consumed with materialism and the pleasures of this materialistic world.

The ONLY way to learn how to control and purify our thoughts is to discipline the body, bringing it under complete subjection to the spirit-Being within (1 Cor. 9:27), exactly as Christ did (Matt. 4:1-11). There is no other way to learn the discipline required to crucify the "self" and all of its selfish desires, which MUST be kept in check at all times. Otherwise we are still serving the "self" (the human animal and its ego) rather than serving God, by doing His Will.

A disciplined body is the key to learning to discipline the mind, as the former automatically cultivates the latter. And it is only with a disciplined mind that we can eventually learn to control ALL of our thoughts and actions, so they are all calculated to DO Father's Will.

Father's Will for each and every one of us is to learn from Him what is Good and what is Evil, so we can distinguish between the two. That is exactly why He gave us The Law, to teach us how to discern between the evil/unclean/sinful and the good/clean/lawful IN OUR MINDS, and then carry out His COMMANDS to DO good to one another.

19:11 Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.
19:12 And ye shall not swear by My name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I [am] the "I AM".
19:13 Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob [him]: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.
19:14 Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I [am] the "I AM".
19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in Judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: [but] in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
19:16 Thou shalt not go up and down [as] a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I [am] the "I AM".
19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the "I AM".

Everything Christ teaches is straight from The Law, because it is the ONLY criteria there is for determining what is good and what is evil.

We have all been given 6000 years and many human lifetimes to learn this basic, universal truth, and yet most are still looking for any and every excuse to keep from obeying God, hoping to continue doing their own selfish will (Satan's will really) instead of God's Will.

As long as that is the attitude of the evil majority in this world, the amount of evil/sin/lawlessness will continue to grow exponentially. Only an awakened spirit-Being (Eph. 5:14), who understands the NEED for discipline and obedience to God, can see the beauty, simplicity and purity of The Law, and the consistency in Christ's Message about it. That is what it means to be truly born again of God, from above, determined to do His Will rather than to remain in slavery to sin for one more minute.

John 8:25 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the prisoner of sin.

"All that's required for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing."
--Edmund Burke

 

[A Freeman]

Further, there may be some unnecessary confusion about what a Covenant is, who is party to it, and what we are required to do to fulfill our end of the agreement.

A covenant is a contract without the con that is so frequently embedded in human contracts. A covenant is one's promise to keep and do all of the terms of an agreement between the parties.

So who is party to the Covenant with God? EVERYONE.

Deuteronomy 29:9-15
29:9 Keep therefore the words of this Covenant, and DO them, that ye may prosper in all that ye do.
29:10 Ye stand this day all of you before the "I AM" your God; your captains of your tribes, your elders, and your officers, [with] all the men of Israel,
29:11 Your little ones, your wives, and thy stranger that [is] in thy camp, from the hewer of thy wood unto the drawer of thy water:
29:12 That thou shouldest enter into Covenant with the "I AM" thy God, and into His Oath, which the "I AM" thy God maketh with thee this day:
29:13 That He may establish thee to day for a people unto Himself, and [that] He may be unto thee a God, as He hath said unto thee, and as He hath sworn unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob/Israel.
29:14 Neither with you only do I make this Covenant and this Oath;
29:15 But with [him] that standeth here with us this day before the "I AM" our God, and also with [him] that [is] not here with us this day [thy children, in PERPETUITY]:

Many "Christians" have the mistaken impression that the Old Covenant has been done away with, and that, thanks to their misinterpretations of the letters attributed to Paul, they now have the freedom to sin with impunity, as part of the New Covenant. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The New Covenant is described in both the Old Covenant and the New Covenant. And in both it makes it crystal clear that The Law will be written into the hearts and minds of the true children of God: Israel. The word "Israel" literally means "Champion of God", i.e. those who DO God's Will, which begins with keeping His Law.

Jeremiah 31:33 But THIS [shall be] The Covenant that I will make with the House of Israel; After those days, saith the "I AM", I will put My Law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Hebrews 8:10 For THIS [is] The Covenant that I will make with the House of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put My Laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to Me a people:

Hebrews 10:16-17
10:16 This [is] The Covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put My Laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
10:17 And their [former] sins and iniquities will I remember no more (Rom. 3:25).

Anyone who hasn't signed up for the New Covenant in its entirety, by keeping and helping to reinstate Father's Perfect Law of Liberty, is still under the terms and conditions of the Old Covenant. And under the terms and conditions of the Old Covenant, the punishment (curse) for not keeping The Law is DEATH.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the Old Covenant. The fault was always with us, for not keeping it (Hebrews 8:7-9). And in truth, the terms and conditions of the New Covenant are the same as those of the Old Covenant: everyone MUST keep The Law. If it were otherwise, it would be encouraging us to commit crimes (sins/evil) against each other. That's why the two Covenants are in PERFECT harmony with each other, forming the New Song that MUST be learned, as any awakened soul knows.

Revelation 14:1-3
14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the Mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty [and] four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many "waters" (Rev. 17:15), and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
14:3 And they sung as it were a New Song (Isaiah 42:10) before the Throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that "Song" except the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which were redeemed from the Earth.

Revelation 15:3 And they sing the "Song of Moses" (Old Covenant - Deut. 31) the servant of God, AND the "Song of the Lamb" (New Covenant), saying, Great and marvellous [are] Thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true [are] Thy Ways, Thou King of the holy people.

The Old Covenant and New Covenant together form the New Song, as the verses above describe. And as those verses clearly indicate, the importance of learning the New Song cannot be overstated.

 

[shankara]

Logical isnt always scriptural as Gods ways are higher than ours. We sin in our thoughts and attitudes. Do you have a mother or sibling? Imagine if some random person thought evil or perverted thoughts toward them. That is sinning against Gods laws as its a failure to love him and your neighbor as yourself.

They are just thoughts, they have no substance. They arise and pass like clouds in the sky. Judging them is counterproductive, it just pushes them back into the subconscious. Whatever divinity there may be, it certainly isn't judging us on our thoughts. It's not even a question of cultivating "virtuous" thoughts, but no longer being a slave to the intellect's perpetual commentary.