BTS discussion thread

[mimis]

I’m staggered by what you are saying here. You are completely undermine Jesus’ death at the cross by what you are saying. He died so that salvation would be available to every one who chose to take it:

“Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.” John 5:24

“All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.“ John 6:37

Who are we to judge who God will accept and who he won’t. We don’t know God’s mind and we can most certainly never assume to. God gave His only son to save others. If that salvation wasn’t going to be available to everyone equally, why would he have done it?

We are all equal in God’s sight and each of us have the same chance to repent as the other.

“Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[c] 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9

Someone posted this verse the other day. Do you see the word I have highlighted there - revilers? It refers to spreading rumours or hate about other people which you do not know to be true. that’s what people here are doing every time they say something bad about someone.
If you think God will favour you for posting speculation about another person, you are very wrong. He holds that sin equal to the sins you accuse others of. It says it right there in scripture.
If you think you have moral superiority over anyone, think again. You assume to know God’s mind and go against scriptural teaching about who God will grant Salvation to. If that’s not blasphemy against God, His Son and the Holy Spirit, then I don’t know what else is.

“For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” But if you bite and devour one another, watch out that you are not consumed by one another” Galatians 5:14-15

Didn't God say: “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
I don't see bts on the narrow path, because walking on it means having humblness. How is Jin humble by calling himself worldwide handsome and how is V humble by calling himself God? I can make conclusions by their actions. I wouldn't go on to analyze them if they were decieving no one but themselves. But they literally decieve hundreds of millions of people, who praze their actions, decisions and fetishize everything they do. Their fans are like sheep and their shepherds (bts) lead them astray. What makes you think God isn't angry at them for what they do? God created us but these 7 figures somehow take over his functions by making hundreds of millions of people be depended on them and turn these "false gods" into the meanings of their life...if that's not messed up then I don't know what is!

 

[mimis]

Did you read the verses I quoted? No one will be excluded if they repent.
Not everyone will be saved, but that will not be God’s choice. To say otherwise is an insult to the sacrifice Jesus made.

They can't turn to God because they are full of ignorance and their hearts are far away from Him. They are not like us so it would be wrong to try to put ourselves in their shoes and somehow hope for miricles. Because they wake up every day and thank their lord (not our!) for the money he gave 'em, for the awards they keep winning and the delusional realm their fallowers enter. That is far away from what God prases! Unless they give up their millions of dollars and leave the industry I don't see them being saved!
"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." - Matthew 19:24
because He also said:
"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." - Matthew 6:24

 

[Hon33]

Just to ask, so everyone get to just go to Heaven? U say all sins are equal? So say the killing and torturing of a baby would be the same as stealing a loaf of bread because u are hungry?


Hmm interesting. Well I still say nobody can know for sure. Mark Passio is an adult and was a satanic priest for many many years. He got out and now warns ppl about the dangers of Satanism and tells ppl how satanism works and seeks to ruin society. He is an adult. I dont know. Maybe im naive. Who knows

Hi TheNightDuck, everyone will not go to heaven but everyone has the opportunity to. Jesus died on the cross, so that everyone could equally have the opportunity to be saved. However, in order to be saved, one must repent and repentance includes asking for forgiveness and then living a life that is worthy of God. Scripture tells us that if we do that, then we will be blessed with eternal life.
Salvation in Christianity, is granted by God’s grace, through faith.
Believing that all sins are equal is difficult, I know. Our instinct tells us that they can’t be but that’s what Scripture teaches and it is not for us to question God’s judgement. Faith comes from trusting in God’s word, even though we don’t understand why some things.are the way He says they are. . In due time, his plan will be revealed to us.

You’re not naive. You have made your decisions based on the information you have. I have made mine based on what I believe.

You are right that Satanism is evil and believe me, I know it exists. My feelings about it are just different to you. I don’t think Satan is necessarily a visible force in the world. I believe it is insidious and to be found in the places that are least obvious. I think you have to be careful about even talking about Satanism because I firmly believe that we shouldn’t give voice to it.
When I was a little girl in church, we used to sing a song about the devil being a sly old fox. I think that is very, very true. I think that speculating about these things and attaching the actions of groups like BTS to Satanism, could in fact be Satan’s actions, in itself.
After all, look at the attention Satan received through speculation like this. If he wants attention, threads like this give it to him.
Then you’ve got people giving misinformation about God, saying that he isn’t a fair and just God and will reject people from salvation. That is contrary to everything scripture teaches. Satan doesn’t need BTS to influence people, Christians on this thread are doing it for him. Christians all over the world do it for them in their self-righteous behaviour. They don’t show the characteristics, God asked them to. They’re spreading false teaching, which Paul warned against in Galatians and other places.
God is unknowable by humans like us. We will never know his mind or his intentions and that is the beauty on which a relationship with Him is founded. We have to trust in His word and in the future, in His time and not ours, we will know His truth.
I am trying to not be “preachy”. I’m just trying to explain what scripture says. I don’t have some of the answers but I have to trust that someday, I will understand.
I hope that explains things a little.

 

[Hon33]

They can't turn to God because they are full of ignorance and their hearts are far away from Him. They are not like us so it would be wrong to try to put ourselves in their shoes and somehow hope for miricles. Because they wake up every day and thank their lord (not our!) for the money he gave 'em, for the awards they keep winning and the delusional realm their fallowers enter. That is far away from what God prases! Unless they give up their millions of dollars and leave the industry I don't see them being saved!
"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." - Matthew 19:24
because He also said:
"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." - Matthew 6:24

Anyone can turn to God. Your post said that God would reject them and He would never reject anyone who repents. It is not your place to judge whether someone is capable of repentance or not.

 

[Hon33]

Actually, God does give his people the authority to judge so long as it's judging RIGHTEOUSLY. Also, God literally claimed that his people were the apple of his eye. So no, we are not all equal. That would mean Gods people are equal to satanists. I could never handle someone telling me some mess like that. Why do people think Christians are trying to be above everyone else when it was Jesus that chose them to be his people (excluding cold/lukewarm Christians) in the first place? You're confused.

You’re very confused.
Do you understand the enormity of what God did by sending His Son to die on the cross? You would have to love your people very much to do that.
God is a just God. He has gone to extraordinary lengths to save his people from evil. Even as he punished Eve in the Garden of Eden for her sins, he promised that her descendants would be blessed. When the people of Israel built false idols at Sinai, he didn’t abandon them and when they still rejected him in favour of the Babylonians, he returned to save them. He sent His own son Jesus Christ to die for their sins.
No, not everyone will be saved. However, everyone can be saved. He has absolutely not given us the right to judge anyone - except in the laws of society, not on religious or moral grounds.

 

[mimis]

They can't turn to God because they are full of ignorance and their hearts are far away from Him. They are not like us so it would be wrong to try to put ourselves in their shoes and somehow hope for miricles. Because they wake up every day and thank their lord (not our!) for the money he gave 'em, for the awards they keep winning and the delusional realm their fallowers enter. That is far away from what God prases! Unless they give up their millions of dollars and leave the industry I don't see them being saved!
"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." - Matthew 19:24
because He also said:
"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." - Matthew 6:24

And also in Matthew, a rich young man asks Jesus what actions bring eternal life. First, Jesus advises the man to obey the commandments. When the man responds that he already observes them, and asks what else he can do, Jesus adds: "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
God gives us these interactions in the Bible for a reason. That's why we say rich are full of ignorance, they know what God commanded and desires but they choose not to follow Him. Bts ain' no a special exclusion of these examples.
There is no point in arguing though, I mean while we argue about whether they are saved or not they fly with private planes, eat expensive shit and have the times of their lives. They love living in the pain and in their beautiful prison, they themselves got into!!! The lyrics of their song ON justifies they made their own decision to follow the dark side and love it!
...Throw myself whole into both worlds ...Carried myself into this beautiful prison...Choosing to descend into the dark abyss....Bring it, bring the pain, on yeah...

 

[TheNightDuck]

Theres this youtuber as well who was born into the occult, abused/programmed as a child, and lived her whole life deep into the occult, she even was involved with the rituals and sacrificed her own baby. But she escaped, and she is saved and protected by God now. And the videos I and i think mimi have posted a couple of times whos name is tamara magdalane, her family was luciferian and she was actually part of the music industry for several years, until she was also saved years later and now does her amazing exposing videos. Testimonies like this give me hope that bts can be just like that too..obviously we dont know what will happen to them yet and there are many celebrities who definitely are not planning on giving up satan, but i just generally pray and have hope that even the fewest amongst the occult (those who still havent fully given in yet) will be saved and that God will do the most unexpected.

Taepeach I totally agree. Sooo many people have escaped the world of Satanism and its amazing and so very hopeful

I do understand that the brain is an extremely complex organ and the mind is something we cant fully comprehend. Everyone has such different mental capacities etc etc. I dont know if u read a book called How to create an Undetectable mind control slave by Fritz springmeier, anyways he speaks about the babies being goaded within the womb already and then they are programmed in such a way as to never see the way out or have the ability to seek salvation. Some people are more weak minded some are naturally stronger mentally. So I try to reserve my judgements unless I know for SURE someone has violated and been cruel to kids people and animals. U know?'because my heart cant stand that.but I feel alot of compassion for these kids who grew up in Satanic cults. Its really awful. Unless someone gives me solid proof Beets do evil things like THAT, I doubt ill ever hate them because I tend to not hate anyone(except one person who shall not be named haha)

 

[lauren_xox]

And also in Matthew, a rich young man asks Jesus what actions bring eternal life. First, Jesus advises the man to obey the commandments. When the man responds that he already observes them, and asks what else he can do, Jesus adds: "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
God gives us these interactions in the Bible for a reason. That's why we say rich are full of ignorance, they know what God commanded and desires but they choose not to follow Him. Bts ain' no a special exclusion of these examples.
There is no point in arguing though, I mean while we argue about whether they are saved or not they fly with private planes, eat expensive shit and have the times of their lives. They love living in the pain and in their beautiful prison, they themselves got into!!! The lyrics of their song ON justifies they made their own decision to follow the dark side and love it!
...Throw myself whole into both worlds ...Carried myself into this beautiful prison...Choosing to descend into the dark abyss....Bring it, bring the pain, on yeah...

Thank you.

 

[mimis]

I am so glad the Holy Spirit was able to guide you to that truthful conclusion.

Listen my friends, bts may have been born in satanic families, but ultimately, they're the ones that made their choice. They were BORN to be wicked! Not everyone is born having a chance to repent, there are wicked people as well, and then there's Gods people that are destined to belong to him already from the beginning. Many are purposely born wicked for 3 main reasons:

1.) To test us, (Yes we are tested and put on trial by God on purpose so we can get an understanding of humbleness, and to be taught day by day about resisting the flesh and the dark forces. It's the same as a parent teaching their child and testing them so that they can grow up knowing right from wrong, that is the same with God)

2.) These celebrities were also born wicked so that God can have his people expose them and the darkness of this world. He willingly let them be born wicked so he can set an example of good vs evil, there HAS to be evil in this world for a fair what? JUDGEMENT.

3.) If there weren't any wicked people except satan and his demons, then everybody would go to Gods kingdom, but WAIT- why doesn't everyone go? 2 reasons: 1.) They have free will and chose the other path and 2.) Because God already CHOSE his people, and to have a fair humble relationship, we can't just know this, accept him, and live a perfect life. Nope, we will be tested, we will go through hard times, but it's all worth it because as soon as you're rewarded by God, you'll instantly know that all the pain you've went through for and by God was worth it.

^That's a true relationship right there. Praise God!

So in conclusion, PLEASE, anyone reading this, there is no point of praying for the already condemned, for bts and the majority of other celebrities, and the majority of the government already failed, they failed from the beginning just like satan and his demons. No matter what they're doing right now, they already lost. This is also why you see celebrities talking about being crowned by their God aka satan.

No point in praying for the eternally damned, I'm sorry if this hurts but why have hope for those who lost already, you're just wasting your time obsessing over the thought of them being saved. God taught me this about 2 years ago, so this is him talking to you guys through me.

I feel like Hon33 is here to test us. I won't be surprised if the profile turns out to be bts insider. It's clear that Hon33 only came here to argue and contredicts.
But I want to thank you @Hon33 because by opposing us you just make us come with more examples and proofs out of scripture that bts are not saved as of this moment! You just make the line between black and white even more clear.
Anyway wish everyone a happy & successful day <3

*I won't continue this fight anymore. Everyone has the right to believe whatever and I am no one to judge so...best of luck and God bless your heart!

 

[Hon33]

And also in Matthew, a rich young man asks Jesus what actions bring eternal life. First, Jesus advises the man to obey the commandments. When the man responds that he already observes them, and asks what else he can do, Jesus adds: "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
God gives us these interactions in the Bible for a reason. That's why we say rich are full of ignorance, they know what God commanded and desires but they choose not to follow Him. Bts ain' no a special exclusion of these examples.
There is no point in arguing though, I mean while we argue about whether they are saved or not they fly with private planes, eat expensive shit and have the times of their lives. They love living in the pain and in their beautiful prison, they themselves got into!!! The lyrics of their song ON justifies they made their own decision to follow the dark side and love it!
...Throw myself whole into both worlds ...Carried myself into this beautiful prison...Choosing to descend into the dark abyss....Bring it, bring the pain, on yeah...

I’m not arguing with you about that.
I'm questioning the fact that you salvation isn’t open to everyone - that there are some people who cannot be saved.

 

[Hon33]

I feel like Hon33 is here to test us. I won't be surprised if the profile turns out to be bts insider. It's clear that Hon33 only came here to argue and contredicts.
But I want to thank you @Hon33 because by opposing us you just make us come with more examples and proofs out of scripture that bts are not saved as of this moment! You just make the line between black and white even more clear.
Anyway wish everyone a happy & successful day <3

*I won't continue this fight anymore. Everyone has the right to believe whatever and I am no one to judge so...best of luck and God bless your heart!

As I’ve said here before, I don’t even know the names of everyone in BTS or any of their songs. I like some Kpop but BTS is not one of the groups I like.
You posted something about Christianity which was blatantly untrue. I challenged you on it. If that’s testing you, so be it. I’m not going to see someone which is scripturally unfounded and not say anything.
When you know that what I am saying is true, you turn around and make a personal attack on me.
If you don’t like being questioned about things you write which are untrue, be more careful about what you write.

 

[TheNightDuck]

Hi TheNightDuck, everyone will not go to heaven but everyone has the opportunity to. Jesus died on the cross, so that everyone could equally have the opportunity to be saved. However, in order to be saved, one must repent and repentance includes asking for forgiveness and then living a life that is worthy of God. Scripture tells us that if we do that, then we will be blessed with eternal life.
Salvation in Christianity, is granted by God’s grace, through faith.
Believing that all sins are equal is difficult, I know. Our instinct tells us that they can’t be but that’s what Scripture teaches and it is not for us to question God’s judgement. Faith comes from trusting in God’s word, even though we don’t understand why some things.are the way He says they are. . In due time, his plan will be revealed to us.

You’re not naive. You have made your decisions based on the information you have. I have made mine based on what I believe.

You are right that Satanism is evil and believe me, I know it exists. My feelings about it are just different to you. I don’t think Satan is necessarily a visible force in the world. I believe it is insidious and to be found in the places that are least obvious. I think you have to be careful about even talking about Satanism because I firmly believe that we shouldn’t give voice to it.
When I was a little girl in church, we used to sing a song about the devil being a sly old fox. I think that is very, very true. I think that speculating about these things and attaching the actions of groups like BTS to Satanism, could in fact be Satan’s actions, in itself.
After all, look at the attention Satan received through speculation like this. If he wants attention, threads like this give it to him.
Then you’ve got people giving misinformation about God, saying that he isn’t a fair and just God and will reject people from salvation. That is contrary to everything scripture teaches. Satan doesn’t need BTS to influence people, Christians on this thread are doing it for him. Christians all over the world do it for them in their self-righteous behaviour. They don’t show the characteristics, God asked them to. They’re spreading false teaching, which Paul warned against in Galatians and other places.
God is unknowable by humans like us. We will never know his mind or his intentions and that is the beauty on which a relationship with Him is founded. We have to trust in His word and in the future, in His time and not ours, we will know His truth.
I am trying to not be “preachy”. I’m just trying to explain what scripture says. I don’t have some of the answers but I have to trust that someday, I will understand.
I hope that explains things a little.

Okay I can agree with some of what u are saying however not all.

Ur scripture teaches that all sins are equal. My religion teaches us that there are major and minor sins. An evil satanist torturing a baby would never be equal to telling a lie to get out of going to an event, stealing a loaf of bread because u are hungry, etc etc. I think a human being can tell that some sins are far worse than others.

U think that Satan is a force that you find in places u wont expect. And that Satan is powerful enough on his own. What do u mean by that? How does Satan act out evil?

In my religion and this is what makes sense to me as well. Satan has no real power. All the evil committed in this world can only see fruition by having the consent of a willing human being. Satan can only whisper to u, its the actual human being who goes forth and acts on it. Satan(and his minions are everywhere) its the people who succumb to his suggestions that act on evil. All evil starts as a thought.

U dont seem to understand that Satanism is an actual religion. And that Satan displays his presence EVERYwhere. Satanism has languages and of those languages is the language of symbolism.
I dont think speaking about it here gives it a voice. To ignore the evil and blatant display of it is allowing it to continue in its evil.

Speaking about it allows us to recognise it so we can either avoid it, speak up about it, and gives us the ability to not be fooled and deceived by it. Satan is at war with man, and u cant defend yourself if u don't know you are in a war. Satan wants to lead people into the fire with him. When we see the truth for what it is we can be on a path to heaven, because satan is deception.

Theres this youtuber as well who was born into the occult, abused/programmed as a child, and lived her whole life deep into the occult, she even was involved with the rituals and sacrificed her own baby. But she escaped, and she is saved and protected by God now. And the videos I and i think mimi have posted a couple of times whos name is tamara magdalane, her family was luciferian and she was actually part of the music industry for several years, until she was also saved years later and now does her amazing exposing videos. Testimonies like this give me hope that bts can be just like that too..obviously we dont know what will happen to them yet and there are many celebrities who definitely are not planning on giving up satan, but i just generally pray and have hope that even the fewest amongst the occult (those who still havent fully given in yet) will be saved and that God will do the most unexpected.

Taepeach what is the yt's name?? Iv also watched a yt lady who escaped a satanic cult. But im interested to know

 

[TheNightDuck]

I am so glad the Holy Spirit was able to guide you to that truthful conclusion.

Listen my friends, bts may have been born in satanic families, but ultimately, they're the ones that made their choice. They were BORN to be wicked! Not everyone is born having a chance to repent, there are wicked people as well, and then there's Gods people that are destined to belong to him already from the beginning. Many are purposely born wicked for 3 main reasons:

1.) To test us, (Yes we are tested and put on trial by God on purpose so we can get an understanding of humbleness, and to be taught day by day about resisting the flesh and the dark forces. It's the same as a parent teaching their child and testing them so that they can grow up knowing right from wrong, that is the same with God)

2.) These celebrities were also born wicked so that God can have his people expose them and the darkness of this world. He willingly let them be born wicked so he can set an example of good vs evil, there HAS to be evil in this world for a fair what? JUDGEMENT.

3.) If there weren't any wicked people except satan and his demons, then everybody would go to Gods kingdom, but WAIT- why doesn't everyone go? 2 reasons: 1.) They have free will and chose the other path and 2.) Because God already CHOSE his people, and to have a fair humble relationship, we can't just know this, accept him, and live a perfect life. Nope, we will be tested, we will go through hard times, but it's all worth it because as soon as you're rewarded by God, you'll instantly know that all the pain you've went through for and by God was worth it.

^That's a true relationship right there. Praise God!

So in conclusion, PLEASE, anyone reading this, there is no point of praying for the already condemned, for bts and the majority of other celebrities, and the majority of the government already failed, they failed from the beginning just like satan and his demons. No matter what they're doing right now, they already lost. This is also why you see celebrities talking about being crowned by their God aka satan.

No point in praying for the eternally damned, I'm sorry if this hurts but why have hope for those who lost already, you're just wasting your time obsessing over the thought of them being saved. God taught me this about 2 years ago, so this is him talking to you guys through me.

I dont think God is that cruel that he lets ppl be born wicked and so they are destined for hell no matter what. That to me isnt fair. Surely people become wicked by listening to Satan.

 

[Notaslave]

Hi, guys! I am new here I just found this forum and decided to share my story of how I realized that there’s something wrong with BTS and with the whole kpop industry. Sorry for my English, I am not a native speaker. So I am a christian (protestant) and 2017 was the year when I’ve heard about BTS. I was shocked when I’ve seen them for the first time because their mv’s were so powerful and energetic that I couldn’t even breathe while watching. I always knew that the whole music industry (especially American) is satanic because of the symbols and so on. So I was trying to see what’s wrong with BTS. I was never a fan of someone so it was so weird to me that I just wanted to see them every day and night... I felt that there was something wrong about it. I knew it, but they seemed so innocent... I felt like I’ve known them for ages. It seemed like they were my friends. But even though I knew that the whole thing is so wrong I hoped that they were Christians and their music has nothing to do with illuminati, because this is South Korea (I didn’t even think that S. Korea can be somehow connected to the US). And I found out that there are a lot of Christian kpop idols (even the word “idol” seemed weird for me but I preferred to not pay attention). But sometimes I could notice some satanic signs and symbols in the mv’s of other kpop celebrities so I thought that they could be somehow connected to the illuminati (like I thought that there are some illuminati’s “churches” or organizations in South Korea and these celebrities are just a part of it and nothing more, like this is just their religion). But then I noticed these dark BTS’s concepts and I didn’t feel really good about it. Then I started noticing that sometimes they show some hand symbols like and so on. But again I ignored it because there could be possibility that this is just coincidence. So then I’ve found out about MK ultra and finally I understood what’s wrong with BTS and the whole Kpop industry. I remembered of every single mv, concept, concert and I had the puzzle. I am happy that I am not the only one who noticed it. And now I notice a lot of signs and symbols in almost every mv. I feel like I am finally not blind. And this energy that comes out from the mv’s of different kpop idols doesn’t affect me. I don’t watch it anymore for entertainment. I have people who are kpop fans and I want to show them that these idols are satanic. I don’t know if we can talk here about other kpop idols, but one of my last observations is Exo’s -Obsession mv. And it is truly disturbing. The lyrics and everything about it just shows that these idols are possessed. Thanks for reading it lol. I have a lot of information and further I would like to share this information with you

 

[Notaslave]

I dont think God is that cruel that he lets ppl be born wicked and so they are destined for hell no matter what. That to me isnt fair. Surely people become wicked by listening to Satan.

God isn’t cruel.
«Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;»
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭20:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬
But I believe that if these people return to God, they can be saved.

 

[OvercomeItAll]

Hi, guys! I am new here I just found this forum and decided to share my story of how I realized that there’s something wrong with BTS and with the whole kpop industry. Sorry for my English, I am not a native speaker. So I am a christian (protestant) and 2017 was the year when I’ve heard about BTS. I was shocked when I’ve seen them for the first time because their mv’s were so powerful and energetic that I couldn’t even breathe while watching. I always knew that the whole music industry (especially American) is satanic because of the symbols and so on. So I was trying to see what’s wrong with BTS. I was never a fan of someone so it was so weird to me that I just wanted to see them every day and night... I felt that there was something wrong about it. I knew it, but they seemed so innocent... I felt like I’ve known them for ages. It seemed like they were my friends. But even though I knew that the whole thing is so wrong I hoped that they were Christians and their music has nothing to do with illuminati, because this is South Korea (I didn’t even think that S. Korea can be somehow connected to the US). And I found out that there are a lot of Christian kpop idols (even the word “idol” seemed weird for me but I preferred to not pay attention). But sometimes I could notice some satanic signs and symbols in the mv’s of other kpop celebrities so I thought that they could be somehow connected to the illuminati (like I thought that there are some illuminati’s “churches” or organizations in South Korea and these celebrities are just a part of it and nothing more, like this is just their religion). But then I noticed these dark BTS’s concepts and I didn’t feel really good about it. Then I started noticing that sometimes they show some hand symbols like and so on. But again I ignored it because there could be possibility that this is just coincidence. So then I’ve found out about MK ultra and finally I understood what’s wrong with BTS and the whole Kpop industry. I remembered of every single mv, concept, concert and I had the puzzle. I am happy that I am not the only one who noticed it. And now I notice a lot of signs and symbols in almost every mv. I feel like I am finally not blind. And this energy that comes out from the mv’s of different kpop idols doesn’t affect me. I don’t watch it anymore for entertainment. I have people who are kpop fans and I want to show them that these idols are satanic. I don’t know if we can talk here about other kpop idols, but one of my last observations is Exo’s -Obsession mv. And it is truly disturbing. The lyrics and everything about it just shows that these idols are possessed. Thanks for reading it lol. I have a lot of information and further I would like to share this information with you

I'm so happy you finally acknowledged that your suspicions were warranted, that you seeked out the truth and realised you're not blind anymore. It's not easy to do!

For other kpop bands, there is this thread https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/

At page 426, we start talking about that exó era. I posted about the album pictures that came out, but another user analyzed the MV in parts. She came to a really frightening realisation.

I'm glad you want to share info! Just be a little careful not to rewatch too much of their content to make posts (or just watch their music videos on silent) on the chance you'd slip back and get into them again so soon

Edit: I just checked, Stefany deleted all her posts :/ they were really good but I think she felt it was too risky to post online. She deleted her whole account I believe.

wait I checked, I'd taken screenshots of some of her posts!






I'm not active on the kpop thread anymore, but you can post your thoughts there

 

[TheNightDuck]

Deeper Insights 10: USING SPIRITUAL THINGS TO CONTROL A PERSON.

www.whale.to

If anybody wants to read some of fritz springmeiers books about mk ultra slaves, which is why I say this topic is too grey to be able to use ur own judgment wether someone should go to hell or not. That is entirely Gods decision and he is the best of judges

 

[TheNightDuck]

Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula by Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler

www.whale.to

The book

Im looking for How to create the perfect mind controlled slave, somewhere on my phone

 

[amity]

And also in Matthew, a rich young man asks Jesus what actions bring eternal life. First, Jesus advises the man to obey the commandments. When the man responds that he already observes them, and asks what else he can do, Jesus adds: "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
God gives us these interactions in the Bible for a reason. That's why we say rich are full of ignorance, they know what God commanded and desires but they choose not to follow Him. Bts ain' no a special exclusion of these examples.
There is no point in arguing though, I mean while we argue about whether they are saved or not they fly with private planes, eat expensive shit and have the times of their lives. They love living in the pain and in their beautiful prison, they themselves got into!!! The lyrics of their song ON justifies they made their own decision to follow the dark side and love it!
...Throw myself whole into both worlds ...Carried myself into this beautiful prison...Choosing to descend into the dark abyss....Bring it, bring the pain, on yeah...

This can be taken another way. It can be taken as a greed lesson or a human lesson about salvation. The man thought he could go to heaven by his works which many jews did when Jesus came, hence why he asked what can he do.

check these out

https://jesuswithoutreligion.com/matthew-1924-explained/

Matthew 19:24 - The Rich and Heaven

Can the wealthy obtain Heaven?

www.christiancourier.com

 

[JINtercession]

Yeah I think as soon as someone starts to claim things that only God can know such as who specifically is ultimately going to heaven or hell or when the rapture date is, oop! there's a red flag.
Yes, we can make conjecture till the cows go home based on people's fruits or end time prophesies based on Revelations, but we need to keep in mind that we are limited in our human wisdom.
1 Cor 2:11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
Mark 13:32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
If you'd seen my great grandfather when he was young, he would have been a surefire candidate for a ticket to hades, licked and sealed by the wrathful tongue of double predestination - that is, from the fallible eyes of human beings.
In an unexpected turn of events, on his deathbed he gave his heart to the Lord.
God doesn't make people go to hell, they get themselves there...

I'm leaving this forum for good and this time I mean it.
If you want to know why, I'm making an oath to the Lord to never return.
Farewell my friends, perhaps we'll meet again