BTS discussion thread

[cadiz]

Wanted to post the same picture. Not so tragic, compared with the picture, but girly flower pants and Jimin give me a bad vibe.

I was gonna ask the same thing. Is that woman clothing JM is wearing?

it's so shameless how BH exploits the ships.
what is the purposse of showing these 2 guys sleeping together and one of them dressed as a woman?

 

[AndrAt3A]

I become more realistic now :v it's open my eyes. I don't even know what taejin have done, it's just for fan service. It seems to be real in some of analysis, but I keep to think that we never know the truth if they don't reveal themself. And, I started to think that jinkook is real. Ok, it's enough to make me disappointed about taejin, so I can move on from idol shipping :'D it sucks. Cus, I don't like other ships except taejin wkwk

I just posted in the kpop mentality/ bts shipping if you want to talk more about the differences between ships. Plus im interested to know what analysis changed your opinion. Shipping to me is interesting because regardless if its all acting, no one person is that great an actor and there are always some tic to show when they are bluffing.

Of course that falls onto the theory that bts are more real than mk slaves.

 

[AndrAt3A]

I was gonna ask the same thing. Is that woman clothing JM is wearing?

it's so shameless how BH exploits the ships.
what is the purposse of showing these 2 guys sleeping together and one of them dressed as a woman?

The premise was that they had a line of outfits the members were choosing from...they were supposed to throw a paper airplane and whichever outfit it landed on thats what they would wear. Jimins landed on the flower bottoms, and then the punishment is now whichever member came in last place for that episode has to wear them into the airport on their next planned trip. So we will also be seeing another member in those if they continue with their tour this year.

Big hit promotes Jikook like never before now. The company has them sing love song covers and it constantly pairing them up. While on the other hand they will cut out or not show when Taekook are together behind the scenes. It falls into the theory that one is more fake than the other. Its a borderline war zone in the bts shipping fandoms.

Its really interesting how the company will pick and choose which ships to promote or debunk with a few behind the scenes clips/pictures and how they edit together their footage to give a false narrative to other members.

 

[cadiz]

The premise was that they had a line of outfits the members were choosing from...they were supposed to throw a paper airplane and whichever outfit it landed on thats what they would wear. Jimins landed on the flower bottoms, and then the punishment is now whichever member came in last place for that episode has to wear them into the airport on their next planned trip. So we will also be seeing another member in those if they continue with their tour this year.

Big hit promotes Jikook like never before now. The company has them sing love song covers and it constantly pairing them up. While on the other hand they will cut out or not show when Taekook are together behind the scenes. It falls into the theory that one is more fake than the other. Its a borderline war zone in the bts shipping fandoms.

Its really interesting how the company will pick and choose which ships to promote or debunk with a few behind the scenes clips/pictures and how they edit together their footage to give a false narrative to other members.

thank you for explaining. those pants are so girly...they always using woman clothing

about jikook I agree BH pushes that ship a lot ond both of them enjoy the attention
I find their fanservice to be awkward to watch (too sexual)

 

[neptunejoo]

I listened to their new album. It didn't give me the same "spell" like Love Yourself. I remember when I first listened to LY, I was literally enchanted. There is like some kind of magic in it.

The Map is more personal I think, the group songs still revolve pain, remedy and healing. Like they are suffering and asking anyone to help.

To think about it, almost all their songs are depressing.

My fav is Inner child, I feel like. Vee has been very intriguing personality. Evil or not. He always came out so authentic. For example, when he composed poems for each member, there are a hint of genuineness in it.

The inner child seems like he wanted to talk to his younger self. Maybe give him warning or whatever, like he knows he has gone too far.

I am tired of bashing them.

But somehow when I listened to this album, they kind of know beforehand that there will be no tour, because of the Corona.

So they did not make "global songs" that every radio would play except ON, Blackswan and BiL...

 

[neptunejoo]

Regarding the fan service. Oh yas. They milk it. You can see everywhere.

But somehow despite all that, I could see they actually despise each others.

You can observe everytime they rank or give scores whenever they done task.

I mean, if I am in a idol group: each member must oblige to rank me everyday. My dance move, my sense of humour, my act, my clothes by the end of the day.

Imagine if one of the member I deem perform poorly than me, score me the lowest.

The resentment grows over the year.

That's why if you can see, like Idol group from Japan - for example Kattun or Hey Say Jump, they don't have each other contact. Because for them, they don't actually want to build close friendship with the members.

 

[cadiz]

Regarding the fan service. Oh yas. They milk it. You can see everywhere.

But somehow despite all that, I could see they actually despise each others.

You can observe everytime they rank or give scores whenever they done task.

I mean, if I am in a idol group: each member must oblige to rank me everyday. My dance move, my sense of humour, my act, my clothes by the end of the day.

Imagine if one of the member I deem perform poorly than me, score me the lowest.

The resentment grows over the year.

That's why if you can see, like Idol group from Japan - for example Kattun or Hey Say Jump, they don't have each other contact. Because for them, they don't actually want to build close friendship with the members.

idk if they despise each other but I'm sure they are not "best friends" like they say
it was discussed here that TH don't spend much free time with the other BT$ members off camera

and I remember when BT$ had that 2 month break last year, only JM and Hope went to JK birthday while the others can't be bothered....idk but for me that shows who is really close in the group

it's normal to be jealous of the most popular members too. there is always competition in big groups like that

 

[J.Gloria]

"Vee and J00n who seem to really be under the misconception that they are on their way to some sort of spiritual ascension in the meantime."

I am totally agree.

Freemasons mislead people to attract to themselves. Most of the people know this but I want to remind how they manipulate people.

The highest degree in free masons is 33th degree. It increases by 3 degrees each year. Up to 33 degree, God is mentioned as "Great Architect of the Universe". Also, to join free masons believing to God is must. Meetings are held at certain times and in these meetings, "training" is given by telling stories (like theater), as you reach higher degrees, "the meetings" can get darker.

In their music videos, these stories are showed, we cannot understand what they are talking about in their mvs until we search about it but a mason can easily understand their mvs. If you are not very intelligent, you may still consider masons as a group of rich or upper class people try to increase their spirituality.

Because

Until the 33rd degree, they don't explain that The God they talk about is actually satan. At level 33, they talk about duality to mislead people. The world is based on yin and yang and they present themselves as the yin part. God and Satan are two equal and opposing forces. So supporting the devil is shown as holding a team. There are such thoughts in Kabbalah too. The 33rd degree is normally reached in 11 years, but American Freemasons can reach the 33rd degree with a short training of ~3 years.

When you finish your training, you became part of the illum**ati and the meetings are much more bloody and sexual than ever before.

I believe they already finish their training and They see themselves as the supporter of the yin part. Since, they are very materialistic they don't give sh*t about what they cause. Vee has very independent and sometimes selfish personality so the idea of being against something is appealing.

No no no no please no...... God and Satan are not equal.... God is powerful but Satan is a dumbass who thinks he's powerful

 

[wow]

idk if they despise each other but I'm sure they are not "best friends" like they say
it was discussed here that TH don't spend much free time with the other BT$ members off camera

and I remember when BT$ had that 2 month break last year, only JM and Hope went to JK birthday while the others can't be bothered....idk but for me that shows who is really close in the group

it's normal to be jealous of the most popular members too. there is always competition in big groups like that

they hate each other, idk why people think they have cute and sexual moments, theyre forced and is programmed to do it, and when the cameras are off, i bet they punch each other's faces a lot.

 

[Door]

I was wondering, there was a tweet where Namjoon said he was talking to his therapist/teacher about mbti or something like that... a thought popped into my mind, does anyone here think that "therapist" is actually just a handler? Because I doubt any real therapist would let their patient just get worse, would they? I mean, it doesn't seem like the guys are feeling any better, and now that I hear they actually have specialists around them it's even weirder.

By the way, I keep seeing people say that Tae is acting very odd, especially considering the photos he shares on twitter, (and all your perspectives are super interesting to read) but I was wondering, am I the only one who feels like a huge wave of anger coming from Tae? I dont know if it's his body language in interviews that I'm reacting to or what, maybe I'm just being weird, but I feel hidden/repressed anger and frustration coming from him. Am I the only one?

 

[Hallowin]

http://instagr.am/p/B-Lci_Pnrh1/
LOOK

 

[wow]

I've been reading through this discussion board for years now but today I'll finally participate. It's interesting to see how the views here have changed as people come and go so I'll lay out my opinions really quickly before I share the info I have.

• I have been a fan of them since their debut. I was 11 and now I'm 18. Because of that I'm very attached to them but my passion goes through waves as I grow up.
• I can't make any claims about the members themselves besides that I think their miserable. They've matured, yeah, but it's obvious that the spark that they had when they started is gone. In regards to all the p***phile and satanist claims, I don't really know. It's like my mind can't process that.
• However, I believe this company is just as shitty as the rest of the entertainment industry and it blows my mind that people glorify it as some amazing thing. They're experts of exploitation and have made over $500 million off of the boys last year alone. I'm positive that everyone in charge is creepy and sadistic.
• I believe rumors of sexual favors and things like that and I see the members as the victims in all of this (even if it was their choice, they were young, greedy, and dumb) who are now stuck and lost with little positive influence around them.

The real point of this post is this, though:
Essentially, some Chinese anti-fans are conspiring that Taehyung is the one who brought the JTBC reporters over, which suggests that he was looking for a way out. He's also avoiding the rest of the group (Why? Who knows?) and only spending many hours a day playing games with fans while staying in his apartment alone. It seems like he is going alongbwith the celebrity life and his duties but isolating himself from the company and his members?
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spill more teaaaaaa, looking at this, he clearly has no life, and what did they mean by "serving" male actors? and i see about tbe chatroom, he is trying to make a small safe little place for is "Kim Clan" what a bunch of shit, just when i thought i couldnt hate him more, he is just asking to be hated now.

 

[cadiz]

I've been reading through this discussion board for years now but today I'll finally participate. It's interesting to see how the views here have changed as people come and go so I'll lay out my opinions really quickly before I share the info I have.

• I have been a fan of them since their debut. I was 11 and now I'm 18. Because of that I'm very attached to them but my passion goes through waves as I grow up.
• I can't make any claims about the members themselves besides that I think their miserable. They've matured, yeah, but it's obvious that the spark that they had when they started is gone. In regards to all the p***phile and satanist claims, I don't really know. It's like my mind can't process that.
• However, I believe this company is just as shitty as the rest of the entertainment industry and it blows my mind that people glorify it as some amazing thing. They're experts of exploitation and have made over $500 million off of the boys last year alone. I'm positive that everyone in charge is creepy and sadistic.
• I believe rumors of sexual favors and things like that and I see the members as the victims in all of this (even if it was their choice, they were young, greedy, and dumb) who are now stuck and lost with little positive influence around them.

The real point of this post is this, though:
Essentially, some Chinese anti-fans are conspiring that Taehyung is the one who brought the JTBC reporters over, which suggests that he was looking for a way out. He's also avoiding the rest of the group (Why? Who knows?) and only spending many hours a day playing games with fans while staying in his apartment alone. It seems like he is going alongbwith the celebrity life and his duties but isolating himself from the company and his members?
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this is pretty interesting
him servicing actors or higher men is not surprising. All of them do it

But if the JBTC rumors are true that means he is looking for a way out of this group
it's very weird how the news channel filmed a video inside the company, they needed one big conection that let them in

 

[J.Gloria]

http://instagr.am/p/B-Lci_Pnrh1/
LOOK

May you please explain to me what's happening?.... I kinda don't understand.

 

[fallandblues]

I feel like kpop has kind of disensitized my idea of normal. Every time I show my friends pictures of male kpop idols they always say "they look like girls" or "they look gay" my sibling even questioned my sexuality due to this which I feel is absurd.
Think about it.....when you were introduced to kpop .,. most of you probably thought it was kinda trash then after watching a few more videos 'boom' most of the guys look extremely hot. It feels like some kind of spell honestly.
Like as I see this picture....a few months ago this wouldve been weird...now its normal.
I regret clicking on that kmbw video.....like daang I would be swooning over Ian Somerhalder or Tyler hoechlin like I used to.

my brother said the exact same thing when I was listen bts "they look like girls, why are you seeing this, why they act like couples" etc once it was weird and creepy and now is totally normal

 

[wow]

As far as the isolation goes, this is necessary to protect oneself and the rest of people by not having contact with others in general.The fact that he is not spending time with the other members during this period of corona I don't find it particularly strange. Symptoms occur after approx 14 days. You could be infected and not know about it, which is why avoiding contact with others saves lives.

Out of all bts members, I see Taehyung as someone who wouldn't have the courage to even switch the side of a hair strand other than the stylist put it.
I don't even know what to say about the rumors, there was absolutely no evidence provided by those journalists, at least not according to my knowledge.I remember seeing the news last year and ignoring it because they didn't provided one single proof and it made me wonder as to whether this was some sort of fake news to engage the fans, or scare them. The same TV station will broadcast for the next weeks episodes from their movie (just saw it on the news).

For the past year or so, one of the things I have noticed is that everytime he says something in the camera, he immediately looks to the person behind the camera, as approval, or confirmation to boost up his ego. He is in desperate pathological need for affirmation, confirmation, positive reaction for any stupid thing, gimmick, fake laugh he might put on.
His erratical behavior could be justified (the naked selfies, the questionable comments on weverse) as being his only getaway on a subconscious level from the otherwise insane control that is being exercised over him.

If those screenshots are true, his behavior is becoming more and more mean and sort of vindictive.
Either way - 24 y old man playing hours and hours of video games?? How much has his brain shrunken?

The 500 mil number in my opinion is by far not the real number. I believe Bang Si-Hyuk alone made at least 1 billion last year with all the income under the table.
Even if the number is real, it just shows how bad their contracts are and how stupid they were to sign. BigHit's net profit it's not BigHit's net profit. They only have BTS (TxT is nothing, doesn't generate anything, or almost nothing). This profit should be divided 20/80. 10-20% is the usual rate for a manager. They should have divided 400 millions to 7. I don't see any of them having almost 58 millions revenue each only from last year. Their wealth is estimated at around 8 mil each.
The other companies are real companies who have a history or having had bands and soloists each after each for decades now. Bang Si-Hyuk hasn't managed to have one successful act besides BTS.
Why?
Because it is not his merit at all. You are right to say that they had a spark and something special that made them attractive to the public. That spark is long gone. Bang Si-Hyuk made money out of them, while ruining whatever good things they had.

It is my belief that the staff is not getting much money because they don't seem to have qualified people. I've seen the same guy acting as a "bodyguard" also acting as a prop during their filming, or massaging their necks.

Their makeup is almost always bad, I don't seem them having real make-up artists with them on tour or events. Maybe for videos, but not in general.

The girls working there are nothing but a bunch of girls obsessed with them, sharing private information with stalkers, meant to distract them or even engage in some sort of physical contact to keep "them" "alert", also as part of manipulation.
I've seen multiple videos of female staff members flirting in a very obvious way, verbal as well as physical, with -in this order - Jungkook, Jimin, Jin, Namjoon, Hoseok.
None involving Yoongi. He seems to be not enjoying the unnatural and obvious flirting.

Not so many videos showing Taehyung, this could be explained by the producer having cut the scenes, but there were a lot of interaction by means of excessive laughing, one female staffer on a few occasion was constantly coming at the band's table taking food out of Taehyung's plate. Not from anyone else's.
Taehyung comes in, or says something in the room that's not funny at all, you hear and see all female staffers exploding in laughing. The typical manipulation of a guy.

The staff's behavior is suspicious. It is standard for every contract in every country to mention that if the artist is male (of course, we are talking about young people, such as Justin Bieber), female staffers are not to engage in any conversation, physical contact, flirting, or even eye contact with the artist. Those girls look like they are constantly trying to mate with the members. When I've said "trying to keep them alert", I have no doubt that it is at Band Si-Hyuk's request, in order to create some sort of sexual tension to make them more alive during filming.
Even if they were to be gay, but a flirting, a certain touch on a subconscious level, raises the level of endorphine and sex hormones.

i think the rumours about him are true, especially the chatroom, you cant lie about that cause if someone spreads lies, they will be most likely bashed by the "Kim Clan" and the managers of that group, but idk about him partying with male actors tho, they dont have any pics of that, but yet again, they sound genuine and they could just stalk him, their hatred towards him is so genuine to me, so i believe that its true, the rumours they said make 100% sense if you really think about it, you think his petty ass would just sit down? if he had the opportunity, he will take down bigshit, he has insiders connection to JTBC, he could just payed them to enter the building, and he thought his plan is successfull but nope, better try next time. and clearly he has no life, now we know why he spends most of his time on weverse, and poor fans thought he was being busy when a fan asked "what are you doing now?" and he said "im working hard" and fans said "its so sad to hear that, they deserve to rest" while he is out there playing with his little girls minions and partying with his actor friends till 6 am, he has a very sad life, he is destroying himself, he spends time on weverse because he is lonely, he has no real hobbies, making songs is definetly not for him, his voice is all messed up, he is not that talented at art, his art looks like a 4 year old's painting, sure he can play the piano like every other artists do so its not really special, he drinks a lot, smoke roasted asparagus, definetly does all those nasty drugs, partying and giving services to actors, his family doesnt give a shit about him, what a sad life he lives, but that doesnt justify his bad actions, i could list all his bad actions just as easy as i could list about how sad his life is, but what i like about him is that at least he tried to take down bigshit, he almost did it but it needs bigger force than that, lets just see what he can do in the future, im interested.

 

[Yellowbunzz tasty]

O_O Im shooketh

 

[Yellowbunzz tasty]

Guys I've been seeing that there aren't that many posts here as per usual and I honestly like that. During this quarantine I believe we should get closer to God instead.

Although this thread is quite interesting and brings you back to sanity we must also live our lives.

I personally go back to this thread when I get new info or when i begin to slowly grow interested in bts again. But afterwards I just leave this thread. I strongly advice that everyone else does that as well. Because referring back to this thread every single day isn't good for your sanity.

Basically just make sure you read the bible more then you come to this thread. Since this thread may benefit you by knowing the truth but getting in too deep may cause for your own downfall as well.

As the bible said "you can't serve two masters at the same time"

Yes its good to know the devils tactics but don't get too involved since it won't benefit you in anyway if you know everything about the devil yet little about God.

I wanted to let this out since I will be absent on this thread for a while. Maybe I'll check up on you guys once in a while but I feel that I've found myself again with God and want to explore that instead of learning more about satanism in bts.

The world is ending soon and I must adhere to my masters calling. Since for the past month I grew distant from God and began questioning his existence so I decided to go this thread just to remember how much he exists.

Since I have this theory that if the devil exists, then God is very much real. Which is quite dumb....since I should look at nature and realise that Yes...God does exists.

I hope everyone takes this to heart and realizes what I'm trying to say.

If you are a Christian hopefully you understand what I'm saying and if you arent one....I hope you understand as well.

I love you guys.

 

[cadiz]

As far as the isolation goes, this is necessary to protect oneself and the rest of people by not having contact with others in general.The fact that he is not spending time with the other members during this period of corona I don't find it particularly strange. Symptoms occur after approx 14 days. You could be infected and not know about it, which is why avoiding contact with others saves lives.

I don't think TH cares about isolation
He was seen with his actor friends and a huge group of people just the other day (wearing no mask)

About the news channel
I still believe something happened and someone from the inside let them in

And now the channel has exclusive rights to BT$ shows?
To me it looks like they got "exclusive content" in change of silence, just like Dispatch does

TH is so active on Weverse and making all those connections. it feels like he is getting ready to go solo and get his own fans
I think he is the only one who can leave the group some day....because the others don't make any moves.
Only time will tell

 

[wow]

I don't doubt at all the validity of the chatroom. He made so many dumb and mean comments over the past year, I am surprised that's the only bad thing we get out of it.

What does it mean - "serving his friends" ? I don't quite get the translation.

Oh, yeah ! JTBC becoming the next Dispatch. Party time ! Welcome JTBC, hopefully you will be providing us delightful content.

My only doubt is the one of him initiating the whole thing. He has no balls, that's my opinion. I don't see what he could have gotten out of it. No one forced them into re-signing the contract. All this complaining about how hard it is, etc - dude, NOBODY is forcing you. Take your millions and get out. Illuminati or no Freemasonry - there are plenty of people in Korea who have sued and/or quit their dumb ass handlers. They still live.

Yoongi, Hoseok - they had their doubts, wanted out but then realized they want the money and the fake fame more than their integrity.
Now they signed their contracts. For 7 more years, well actually 9 years due to military. By the time they are out, they will going to be between 33 and 40. With absolutely nothing except some (?) money.
If they are still clear minded.
I don't see a good ending if they keep continuing with exposing themselves infront of children and filming shows where they play games for children aging 7-10. I don't know how long this thing with 14 y old girls calling them "my babies" is going to hold on until one of them has a breakdown.
Around the age of 23-24 the mind starts to grow up, even if you act as a child. It's an automatic process, the brain starts processing childhood, teenage years, parental relation. It's a process done in the subconscious, which is why many go nuts when it starts.

The more they hold on and go through with this shit, the more damage they are causing to themselves.

Obviously there is something going on with Taehyung, whatever that is, but at the same time it is quite noticeable that he is the only one incapable of doing anything at all.
Everyone else has a sort of occupation - they all work out, except Taehyung who has the body of a grandma, lots of fat around his chest, belly and torso. That's not the body of a dancer, you need to train in order to control your muscles, as a dancer you need a certain workout. He looks "heavy" on the stage, he is not in control of his muscles, he looks as if he is fighting with his body.

They all can say some sentences in english, Taehyung was the only one who had to read his two sentences out of a block note in January when they had their trip to NY - so embarrassing.

Everyone has singing lesson, they've improved, you can hear it. Taehyung has no exercise, he sings very badly, often loosing his voice. He single handed ruined his voice. But then he goes on crying on the stage because he botched his part and ooohhhh, ppoooooorrr guy, we have a "cute" moment on the DVD, poor Taehyung crying.
Everyone else writes something on their songs. Taehyung managed to write two words: good night.
I don't buy anything about him writing and producing anything from the OST Itaewon class. He can't say one simple sentence in english, let along writing a song.
So - what is it exactly that he's doing?

From his position - if he wanted to leave the band, he must have realized somehow that he is incapable of doing anything with his life. He must see that the others are all doing something while he chooses to go in his room and play video games with minors.

I don't see how he would have wanted to leave the band while not being capable outside of the band to have any occupation or profession.

if you look closely, they all had their own talents, rap line can write good songs, nj is musically smart, hs can both sing,rap,dance,and write good songs (when i was a fan, hope world was lowkey good), sg is musicaly smart and very damn good at rapping either, i have to admit that, jk and jn has a good voice and they still have a stable voice up until now, jm's voice is messed up but heck, he can dance really damn well, th? no wonder he was the background character, they didnt know what to do with him, what position to put him in, they had to slip in hs's position as the main dancer,lead rapper, and lead vocal, and give th the lead vocal instead, i would honestly prefer hs singing, th's voice is just a breath of air, he is trying hard to sound husky and its not working anymore, if anything, his talent is being annoying and playing video games. he relies on people a lot, he is so self destructive than the rest of them, i think he has age suppression, his mental age froze at a young age, thats why he is acting like a literaly child. dont get me wrong, the guy has a very poor life, but the other members went to the same shit as him, if not, worst, jm is not even himself anymore, he was the most masculine member back then, now he is forced to wear girly clothes and being the group's kitten, and jk was 14 when his parents abandoned him and put him in a pedo spot and forced him to sing and become an idol, jn was also a moonchild, and so is rm, they went through programming in a young age too, but at least they know boundaries and they still live like an adult would live, they dont play video games, they dont look for an attention to male actors, they dont go on weverse flirting with fans and making a whole ass group chat for them, what he is doing is unjustifiable and he needs to grow tf up.