When Religion And Conspiracy Theories Collide.

[The Zone]

Why do you have an issue with people liking my posts? It smacks of jealousy to me. There is no need for these childish snipes from you, that's my job. I will highlight them on principle....now tuck your shirt in at the back and wipe your nose, it's running



Bit confused with this one. How can somebody hate something they don't believe exists? You didn't think that one through properly did you?

As far as all the top secret stuff, don't utter another word about it. For your own safety.

I am not jealous in any way. What would I be jealous of? I like this place but I do not need it. My life's work is not in the forum nor is my main focus. This place is entertainment for me and escapism. But if you are going to accuse me of childish snipes you are avoiding the many you have taken at me. FWIW, my post was intended to say a cheerleader is not adding to the discussion. Yes, it was sarcasm.

As for the hate, it just seems like you let religion bother you a ton and I am sure others have made a similar observation.

You really need to let go of the jealousy part and thinking this is a competition. That is not reality. Honestly, my pet peeve with you is your rudeness. But if I wanted you gone I would not have lightened up and held out a hand to stop the confusion yesterday. I think we are actually making progress here and I came to the conclusion that you need this place more than I do, so I chose restraint.

I will agree to let go of all snipes and such provided you do the same and I will high road apologize for getting smarmy. But we will disagree some and that is okay too.

 

[Awoken2]

I am not jealous in any way. What would I be jealous of? I like this place but I do not need it. My life's work is not in the forum nor is my main focus. This place is entertainment for me and escapism. But if you are going to accuse me of childish snipes you are avoiding the many you have taken at me. FWIW, my post was intended to say a cheerleader is not adding to the discussion. Yes, it was sarcasm.

As for the hate, it just seems like you let religion bother you a ton and I am sure others have made a similar observation.

You really need to let go of the jealousy part and thinking this is a competition. That is not reality. Honestly, my pet peeve with you is your rudeness. But if I wanted you gone I would not have lightened up and held out a hand to stop the confusion yesterday. I think we are actually making progress here and it I came to the conclusion that you need this place more than I do, so I chose restraint.

I will agree to let go of all snipes and such provided you do the same and I will high road apologize for getting smarmy. But we will disagree some and that is okay too.

I'm cool with that.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

...not possible at that party....Pence and Pompeo were queueing at the door.

They can get it too..... or all three of those clowns at the same time. No respite for those whom abuse children......

 

[Awoken2]

I could spend a lifetime trying to expose the NWO and make a real difference in the life of one single person. Can you name 3 people whose lives are radically different and better because of your efforts in the exposing the NWO?

It's not a case of naming people Todd. The people who rule over us have this set of beliefs. One of those beliefs is cause and effect. Every action has a reaction.

If you choose to be passive and do absolutely nothing then things will stay exactly the way they are now. If however you choose to try and expose what's going on using every method available to you then that MAY have some effect o the current situation.

Who's to say some person who has got important connections doesn't see something on VC forum one day and chooses to investigate things further and share things with a much bigger audience.

Revolutions start with a single whispered word. If we all have the attitude that we can't effect change the it's gaurenteed there will be no change.

From what I know now about the biggest conspiracy of all I ain't gonna stop fighting it til they day I die.

 

[Lisa]

If we all have the attitude that we can't effect change the it's gaurenteed there will be no change.

What change are you affecting?

 

[TempestOfTempo]

What change are you affecting?

The one you are here desperately trying to derail lil Lisa......

 

[Awoken2]

Fair enough. I'll try to clarify...

God doesn't protect me or bless me or do anything because I "believe" the Bible. Believing is worthless if one doesn't act and apply the guidance of God to their life. God blesses me when I follow his guidance and live according to his commandments as summed up by Jesus (Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind and love your neighbor as yourself). Faith without works is dead! In the same way simply "believing" conspiracy theories is useless if one doesn't know how to apply or act on the belief that conspiracy theories are real.

The wages of sin is death. We live in a fallen world. The Bible is clear that we will all die physically. Yes all those things you listed can contribute to my physical demise, but even if they were not fostered on me by the Elite, I would still die because I live in fallen world.

Do I loose sleep over the things you have listed? No, because I know that I am in God's hands. Whether I die of old age, flouridated water, heavy metals, GMO foods, or 5G radiation it really makes little difference. I would rather spend my energy seeking God and his ways and then worry in futility about the physical pollution the NWO is bombarding me. I could spend my whole life trying to combat the physical evils the NWO is attacking me with and have nothing to show for it when I die. Instead, I will spend my life persevering and overcoming various trials, having patience and the fruit of the Spirit born within me so that in the ages to come I may attain the crown of life. (James 1:12)

I have the peace of God that surpasses all understanding and by the grace of God I have had the privelege of blessing others and helping them find their path to peace with God also.

Do you really have hope that you can combat and defeat the conspiracies of the NWO? Does discussing and pulling the veil off the conspiracies of the NWO bring you peace? If it does, then I am happy for you. I tried in vain for years to expose it with little to no impact on actually changing anything or anyone. (I started researching the illuminati the old fashioned way, in a library, before the internet was a readily available resource) However I have seen multiple lives transformed and blessed by actually following the spiritual guidance and commands of God as found in the bible.

I find this quite sad. You are passively submitting yourself to whatever fate these psycopaths choose for you. Without any thought for future generations of your family you are prepared to just hope that your belief in God is enough.

Todd. It isn't the size of the dog in the fight that is important.

It's the size of the fight in the dog.

Some of us are not prepared to get what is coming to us without at least trying to do something about it.

 

[Lisa]

Some of us are not prepared to get what is coming to us without at least trying to do something about it.

What are you personally doing about it? You never did answer my question about what change you are affecting.

 

[Awoken2]

You ask too many irrelevant questions. That's why you come here, just to ask stupid questions and waste people's time. I'm not wasting any of my time answering any questions from you, because you're a fraud.

You keep preaching from your bible dear, whilst at the same time making Christianity look like a mental health problem.

As I've stated many times before, you ain't fooling anybody.

 

[SnowFall]

Ya he should have made it clear who he was inviting to his thread...would have made it easier.

What is it with these guy hating on you?

 

[Lisa]

You ask too many irrelevant questions. That's why you come here, just to ask stupid questions and waste people's time. I'm not wasting any of my time answering any questions from you, because you're a fraud.

You keep preaching from your bible dear, whilst at the same time making Christianity look like a mental health problem.

As I've stated many times before, you ain't fooling anybody.

I wonder why you keep acting like you have some plan of action that you are doing but you can’t tell us what that is? I wonder why you won’t say? Perhaps because you aren’t doing anything after all your preaching about doing something?

 

[Lisa]

What is it with these guy hating on you?

I have no idea...

 

[Awoken2]

What is it with these guy hating on you?

I don't hate on anybody but I'll call out any "christian" who thinks homeless people are the scourge of society, muslims lives are worthless, Palestinians should be killed and gay people are all choosing to be gay.

To me that is a bigot, not no Christian.

I hope this clears things up for you.

 

[Lisa]

I don't hate on anybody but I'll call out any "christian" who thinks homeless people are the scourge of society, muslims lives are worthless, Palestinians should be killed and gay people are all choosing to be gay.

To me that is a bigot, not no Christian.

I hope this clears things up for you.

What do you think a Christian ought to say?

 

[Lisa]

What is it with these guy hating on you?

Actually, I’ve been thinking about your question, and I think the answer is fear. Fear that I may be right about what I say and that means they are wrong. Instead of having a reasonable conversation, they can only come up with hateful personal insults, which as we all know isn’t an argument. If they think the worst of me...surely I can’t really be right then, can I?

 

[elsbet]

I have only the one question really. Why do the people on this forum who want to talk nothing but God not want to discuss ANYTHING which is presented within this very insightful 2 he 33 min video?

It has been made by religious people after all. What I have observed since joining this forum is that all the Old Testament brigade here enjoy nothing more than laughing at us "conspiracy theorists"....telling us we're mental, paranoid etc.

Try squirming your way out of this one.

Can't wait for the response to this. It should connect dots for many me thinks.

I'm not sure I'm going to sit through all 2 hours of the video, right now.. maybe later.

Based on the title though, it shouldn't be a surprise the GA Guidestones get attention from the Christian community-- they line up pretty well with the eschatology. I'm not here that much, but I don't know of anyone (who you may align with the OT Brigade) that would disagree.

The "climate change" alarmists who think *world* overpopulation is a legitimate threat would likely disagree.. but not your OTB. This is the stuff of prophecy.

 

[Todd]

I find this quite sad. You are passively submitting yourself to whatever fate these psycopaths choose for you. Without any thought for future generations of your family you are prepared to just hope that your belief in God is enough.

Todd. It isn't the size of the dog in the fight that is important.

It's the size of the fight in the dog.

Some of us are not prepared to get what is coming to us without at least trying to do something about it.

That’s too bad that you see impacting people’s lives and helping people overcome the dreadful situations they are living in, as sad.

To me spending your life trying to expose and defeat something to no effect is much more sad than seeng you actually impacted and changed lives for the better.



23Jesus turned to Peter and said, “Get away from me, Satan! You are a dangerous trap to me. You are seeing things merely from a human point of view, not from God’s.”

24Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If any of you wants to be my follower, you must give up your own way, take up your cross, and follow me. 25If you try to hang on to your life, you will lose it. But if you give up your life for my sake, you will save it.26And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?l Is anything worth more than your soul?27For the Son of Man will come with his angels in the glory of his Father and will judge all people according to their deeds.

The size of the fight in me is plenty sufficient, I just choose to fight things that I can actually make an impact on.

 

[DavidSon]

I have only the one question really. Why do the people on this forum who want to talk nothing but God not want to discuss ANYTHING which is presented within this very insightful 2 he 33 min video?

It has been made by religious people after all. What I have observed since joining this forum is that all the Old Testament brigade here enjoy nothing more than laughing at us "conspiracy theorists"....telling us we're mental, paranoid etc.

Try squirming your way out of this one.

Can't wait for the response to this. It should connect dots for many me thinks.

I started the video and will continue later. Not that I disagree with the author of the doc.'s concerns, but I can't help wanting to also investigate the sources/motives of the theories themselves. I've said this multiple times but when Pat Robertson and the 700 club are the ones educating us on the NWO and "satanic elite", an amount of skepticism is warranted.

In the bigger picture I think many of can relate to the basic point you're driving home. VC is a website exposing the corruption within popular society, especially the architects of said deception. Within who I would describe as talented visionaries, truth seekers, legit warriors against the mainstream culture of death, we have those few members who (I think unwittingly) seem to speak for the power structures themselves.

I see VC as kind of a safe-haven from the evils of mainstream society, a place where truth and healing are supported. It can be frustrating to read posts from who I picture as Mike Pompeo or my Grandmother's indoctrinated friends. It gives one the feeling of being infiltrated. It's not just "a difference of opinion", we're reading the views of those who are masquerading themselves among the truth movement. They feed off of the creativity of others yet offer no appreciation or helpful dialogue.The internet makes this possible but in the real world, on the streets, the mask would ripped off in 5 seconds.

My method of dealing with negativity is to just skip certain posts. It's such a small place, no need to bother with ignore. The scroll button works perfectly for this.

 

[Awoken2]

That’s too bad that you see impacting people’s lives and helping people overcome the dreadful situations they are living in, as sad

I don't, that's good Todd. I myself was an abused child who is now a compassionate adult caring for abused children. You can do more.

To me spending your life trying to expose and defeat something to no effect is much more sad than seeng you actually impacted and changed lives for the better

To no effect? You are wrong here. Of course what I post here has an effect...somewhere, with somebody. The same as your.posts do.

The size of the fight in me is plenty sufficient, I just choose to fight things that I can actually make an impact on.

Your bible killed off your fight....that's too bad.

@David I'll answer your.post with the attention it deserves tomorrow. Thank you.

 

[elsbet]

@DavidSon

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... when Pat Robertson and the 700 club are the ones educating us on the NWO and "satanic elite", an amount of skepticism is warranted.​

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I'd trust that man about as far as I could throw a piano. Just saying. It's a shame that he, or any other 700 Club personality / random televangelist, somehow serves as a spokesperson for others.

Having said that, a good amount of skepticism is warranted with any well known tv personality, simply because they are on tv. You don't get a platform for (truly) going against the grain, these days.