Good day and good wishes to all.
The post made below is being responded to point-for-point, in detail, to illustrate the absurdity of the religious superstition known as "the trinity doctrine", and the
illogical and
unscriptural assumptions made by those who defend it.
This may initially be looked upon
wrongly as an “attack”; however in truth, it is meant to alleviate the confusion (and the cognitive dissonance it was meant to create) that this nonsensical Babylonian mystery religion has caused. And more importantly, it is meant to help people understand
WHY the trinity was invented: to humanize God (Who is
NOT, and
NEVER has been, nor ever will be
HUMAN–
Num. 23:19).
By
falsely claiming that Jesus (the human) is God, when Jesus
never made that claim (and in fact pointed out on numerous occasions that Father is His God too), people
mistakenly think they have a ready-made excuse to continue disobeying God and His Law, beginning with the First, and Most Important Commandment.
The reason the terms "trinity", "triune god", "three-in-one", "one-in-three", "God the Son" and "God the Holy Spirit" are not found anywhere in Scripture is because they are
UNSCRIPTURAL. That's why all feeble attempts to “prove” the trinity fail miserably.
FACT: There is
ONE God: our heavenly Father and Creator, Who is The King Ruler of the Universe. Everything else is
His Creation,
beginning with His Firstborn
Son.
So God spoke through Archangel Michael when he gave the law to Moses. Then God spoke through Archangel Michael who incarnated Jesus who spoke to mankind.
Correct.
We ought not infer the trinity from scripture or be called antichrists,
Correct.
even though the trinity is contained within one verse (John 1:1).
Except it isn't contained within that one verse, is it? Unless one redefines what the word “Word” (Logos in Greek) means, to intentionally and deceitfully obfuscate its meaning and intent.
A word is a means of conveying a message. It is a form of communication. We can send word (a message) by thought (telepathy), verbally, in writing or by example.
John 1:14 And the Word was
MADE flesh (incarnated), and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only incarnated
ofthe Father) full of Grace and Truth (Nazir in Hebrew).
God's Word is His Message to mankind, which has
ALWAYS been, and ever shall be,
THE TRUTH. When we stopped listening to God's Word
TELEPATHICALLY (through prayer, which is direct communication with God), God sent His Word through
His messengers like Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and all of the Prophets, to warn us
VERBALLY.
When we stopped listening to God's Prophets and His Spoken Word, God gave us His Word in writing. It was first given to Moses at Mt. Horeb in Sinai, and later through God's other Prophets. When we stopped listening to and/or reading and following God's
WRITTEN Word, He was left with no other option to get through to us, but to send
A FLESH AND BLOOD EXAMPLE of His Word in the form of the human+Being known as Jesus+Christ (
Matthew 21:33-46).
John 1:1 In the
Beginning was the Word (Truth - in Hebrew is Nazir), and the Truth was
with God (
NOT with Lucifer/Satan the Devil), and the Word was God.
Giving one's “word” also denotes a solemn vow to uphold their end of a Covenant/contract.
So, in truth, there is absolutely nothing in John 1:1 that denotes any made-up
three-part trinity. In fact it really doesn't even mention two-parts, unless someone reads into that verse something which isn't there. What do you suppose keeps you from seeing this simple truth whilst
falsely claiming that
“the trinity is contained within one verse”? Arrogance perhaps?
However, even though the role of Michael is nowhere to be found in the gospels (canonical or apocryphal) or epistles, we're supposed to accept that Jesus was Michael incarnate instead of the Logos (the Logos is not an angel.
You probably don't realize it, because you do this all the time, but you've employed yet another logical fallacy to go along with another baseless claim. This time it's the false dichotomy that Jesus was Michael incarnate
instead of the Word
OF God made flesh, as if the two are mutually exclusive. They aren't.
And what about the reference in Jude? Even on a superficial level, why is it Michael that is dealing directly with Satan? The same Michael Who
COMMANDS Father's Army (the heavenly host), which
defeated Lucifer/Satan/Iblis and his angels (us) in the war.
If read in context, the piece in Jude 1:8-9 holds Michael's
behaviour up as The Example to follow,
exactly as Christ is The Example all of us must follow (compare with
Matt. 4:10). Be slow to speak, never judging by anyone's standard but Father's (by all of His Commandments, Statutes and Judgments, found in His Law), striving to do Father's Will
always.
So if you will stop redefining words to suit your man-made satanic doctrines, then you should have no problem understanding what's been shared with you.
That would also help you to see that God's Word—His Message of
TRUTH to mankind—is being delivered by
ALL of His
guardian angels everyday, to everyone here on Earth (two guardian angels watching over each of us in this prison-planet reform school).
The Word means The Word, just like God, One, Two, Three, None/Nothing, Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent, Greater than, Equal to, Invisible, Image, Creature, Firstborn, Son, Father, Commandments, The High Priest, The Mediator, Heir, Inheritance and Made/Created all retain their common standard definitions in Scripture. Only in a lunatic asylum could people redefine dozens of terms to intentionally confuse something as simple as a Father-Son relationship, just to hang on to such an obvious
lie, so they don't have to actually
DO what we've been
COMMANDED to do: obey God
ONLY (
Acts 5:29).
The Logos is the word that shapes ultimate reality, it is ultimate reality: the order of the universe according to the mind of God).
And what does God tell us through His Servant Paul about the order of the Universe? The same thing that Jesus told us: Father, Who
IS God, is above
ALL, i.e.
FATHER IS THE MOST HIGH (The Highest).
1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and
the head of Christ [is] God (Father, Who is The
MOSTHigh).
John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come [again] unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for
my Father is greater than I (
NOT equal to).
Luke 1:31-32
1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name
JESUS.
1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called
the Son OF the Highest: and
the Lord God his Father (
NOTsome schizophrenic pagan trinity) shall
GIVE unto him the Throne of David:
This is why the spirit-Being/Archangel Prince Michael, the Messiah/Christ, repeatedly and truthfully called Father His God (
Matt. 27:46,
John 20:17,
Rev. 3:12) and why Christ said He can do
NOTHING without Father (
John 5:30). It's also why Prince Michael/Christ, through the mouth of Jesus, repeatedly reminded everyone that Father
SENT Him, Prince Michael/Christ (over 50 times in the Gospels).
And here is how our ultimate reality is being shaped by Father
THROUGH His Anointed One/Messiah/Christ/Mahdi.
1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be
subject unto Him that put all things under him, that God (Father,
NOTsome pagan trinity) may be all in all.
Would substituting “father, son and holy spirit” for the term “God” work in the above verse? Of course not. It would render the verse senseless, just as it does to any verse that has the term “God” in it. Why? Because
THE Lord God
IS Father, and He is
ONE (
NOT some pagan trinity –
Deut. 6:4,
Zech. 14:9).
There is only his share in the battle against evil between the forces of the Most High and Satan in the Book of Revelation.
So you think Christ sat the war in heaven out? Does that sound like the same Christ that voluntarily came down to Earth on numerous occasions, including in the body of Jesus 2000 years ago, knowing He would suffer the agony of the cross to redeem us for our
PAST sins (
Rom. 3:25)?
Revelation 12:7-11
12:7 And there was war in heaven:
Michael and his angels* fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven (where Michael is the Prince).
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the earth, and his angels (you -
Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (
Matthew 25:41).
12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the Kingdom of our God,
and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our
brethrenis cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by
the wordof their testimony; and they loved not their (human) lives unto the death (
John 12:25).
*Prince Michael/Christ is the Captain/Commander of the heavenly host, aka “the eagles” (see
Joshua 5:14-15,
Matt. 24:28,
Heb. 2:10,
Rev. 12:7).
Of course there's actually much more about Michael, in the Book of Daniel, in the Book of Enoch, Joshua and Jude, and in His Revelation to John, which serve as multiple witnesses confirming Prince Michael is The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi.
Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the Commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto
THE MESSIAH THE PRINCE [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Daniel 10:21 But I will show thee that which is noted in the Scripture of
Truth: and [there is]
NONE that holdeth with me in these things, EXCEPT Michael your prince (
Eno. 67:1;
Rev. 5:3;
5;
9 &
12:7).
Daniel 12:1-4
12:1 And at that time shall
Michael [the Archangel] (
Eno. 20:5;
36:1;
40:8;
58:1;
59:9;
57:1-2;
70:4;
Rev. 12:7;
Sura 2:98) stand up,
the Great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the Book [of Life] (
Rev. 13:8;
17:8;
20:15;
21:27;
Sura 83:20).
12:2 And many of them that sleep in "the dust of the earth" (
Gen. 13:16;
28:14) shall awake, some to Everlasting Life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.
12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to Righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and
"seal" the Book (
Rev. 5:1-5),
[even] to the time of the end**: many shall run to and fro, and [evil] knowledge (
1 Tim. 5:20) shall be increased
**sealed by Daniel, on the
Command of Prince Michael/Christ, which is why He's the
Only One Who can open it at
the time of the end.
Revelation 5:1-5
5:1 And I saw in the right hand of Him that sat on the throne a Book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals (seven in God's "Code" means
ALL or
COMPLETELY).
5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the Book, and to loose the seals thereof?
5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the Book, neither to look thereon.
5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the Book, neither to look thereon.
5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Source of David, hath prevailed to open the Book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Michael is one of the angels of the Most High.
Yes, however Michael is much more than that, isn't He? He is
THE FIRSTBORN Angel, i.e. the first
CREATED Son of God (the
first of the Angels of the Most High), hence His title as
THE PRINCE (heir to the Throne).
The angels of the Most High form the Elohim. There are 70 angels in this Divine Council.
All are sons of the Most High, including Michael and Satan (= Samael).
Where did you get “Samael” from please? And what are the names of these 70 angels? This is not to dismiss the idea of this council, but do you have any scriptural references to back any of these assumptions up?
You were provided the names of the Archangels, which are found in
the Book of Enoch, which was wrongly removed from
the Bible.
Enoch 20
20:1 These are the names of the angels who watch.
20:2 Uriel, one of the holy angels, he it is who is over clamour and terror.
20:3 Raphael, one of the holy angels, who is over the spirits of men (
ch. 40:9).
20:4 Raguel, one of the holy angels, who inflicts punishment on the world and the luminaries.
20:5 Michael, one of the holy angels, who presiding over human virtue,
commands the nations (
Dan. 12:1;
Sura 2:98).
20:6 Sarakiel, one of the holy angels, who presides over the spirits of the children of men that transgress.
20:7 Gabriel, one of the holy angels (
Luke 1:19), who is over Ikisat, over Paradise (the place "para-dice" - "in order to be told": all they did), and over the cherubim.
Satan's name in heaven was
Lucifer. The word “Satan” is actually a title that means “the Opposer/Adversary”, which Satan earned withhis coup attempt on Father (
Isa. 14:12-17), and his continued opposition to Father since then.
The Father of Christ transcends the Most High and the Elohim. This is why Jesus Christ said:
Seriously? How could Father transcend
THE MOST HIGH? Do you really not know that
THE MOST HIGH means there are
NONE higher? Father
IS The
Most High (God). Please see more notes below in the verses you've cited from some corrupted version of the Bible, to further illustrate the absurdity of the man-made up trinity doctrine, the central dogma of Roman Catholicism.
John 6
46 No one has seen the Father (Who IS God) except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. (Michael is not the one who is from God, he is one of the sons of the Most High. Therefore Michael has not seen the Father)
Logical fallacies (i.e.
illogic) you employed: non-sequitur, slippery slope. Your assumptions simply do not follow from the information provided.
Facts:
1. God = Father (the “I AM”).
2. Prince Michael = God's
Firstborn Son (hence the designation “the Great Prince”) = God's Anointed One (The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi), which is why God
MADE Michael the Firstborn Son and
HEIR to the Throne. There are
NONE closer to Father than His Firstborn Son,
MADE in the express image (likeness) of Father. The name “Michael” literally translates from Hebrew as “Who is
LIKE God?”
As the very closest and firstborn Son of Father, Prince Michael/Christ has—
with absolute certainty—seen Father. So you are in
obvious error,
AGAIN.
John 1
18 No one has ever seen God (and yet multitudes of people saw Jesus), but the one and only Son, who is himself God???(<--this has been added as it is NOT in the original text) and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. (Michael is not the one and only Son, nor is he himself God.)
How ridiculous! Who said Michael was “the one and only son” or that Michael was claiming to be God (both of which are
illogical strawman arguments)? Christ is
NOT God either (and neither is Jesus, the human that Christ
incarnated).The words “who is himself God”appear nowhere in the original text, so why were they added unless to deceive? How could someone be considered to be in the “closest relationship” with themselves? We are ourselves, and a relationship is between
at least two distinct individuals.
Of course your illogical deductions are to be expected from such an obvious corruption. By comparison:-
John 1:18 (
King of kings' Bible) No man hath seen God at any time; the only incarnated Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [Him].
John 1:18 (KJV)No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son***, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
***As Father has created many sons (the Sons of God/Angels are manifold), His Firstborn Son is the only one who has been
incarnated into a human body, to serve as
THE Example,
THE Master/Teacher,
THE Mediator
BETWEEN God and men and thus
THE High Priest
forever.
John 14
9 Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. (Jesus is God.)
This
assumption doesn't follow either.
John 14:9-11
14:9 Jesus saith unto him,
Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Show us the Father?
14:10
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The Words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, He doeth the works.
14:11
Believe me that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
Being at
ONE with someone, i.e.
OF LIKE MIND/SINGULAR PURPOSE, doesn't make those two individuals cease to be separate individuals. That's how it's possible for any of us to be one
IN Father and His Firstborn Son Prince Michael/Christ (The Master/Teacher), and vise versa,
IF we are doing Father's Will.
From Prince Michael/Christ praying to His God and Father:
John 17:17-23
17:17
Sanctify them through Thy Truth: Thy Word is Truth.
17:18
As Thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
17:19
And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the Truth.
17:20
Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe me through their word;
17:21
That they all may be one; as Thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in Thee, that they also may be one IN Us: that the world may believe that Thou hast sent me.
17:22
And the glory which Thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as We are One:
17:23
I IN them, and Thou IN me, that they may be made perfect IN ONE; and that the world may know that Thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as Thou hast loved me.
17:24
Father, I will that they also, whom Thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my Glory, which Thou hast given me: for Thou lovedst me BEFORE the foundation of the world.
17:25
O righteous Father, the world hath not known Thee: but I know Thee, and these have known that Thou hast sent me.
17:26
And I have declared unto them Thy identity, and will declare [it]: that the love where with Thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
Jesus is God incarnate:
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (<--- The Word / Logos was God.)
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. (The Word / Logos / God became flesh = Jesus)
I'm not doing anything here except follow what scripture tells me.
Of course you are, you either just don't see it or you are doing it intentionally to deceive others.
1 In the beginning was the Word/Truth, and the Word/Truth was with God, and the Word/Truth was God. (“Logos” in the original Greek means
REASONED DISCOURSE).
14 And the Word was
MADE flesh (incarnated), and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only incarnated of the Father) full of Grace and Truth (Nazir in Hebrew).
(A flesh and blood example of God's Word/Truth/Message/Reasoned Discourse).
Jesus = The Son of God.
Michael = an angel of the Most High.
TRUTH:
Jesus = the Son of Man.
Prince Michael/Christ = the
FIRSTBORN Son of God (The Most High).
ALL of the Sons of God are Angels/spirit-Beings of The Most High.
Hebrews 1:
The Son Superior to Angels
Of course the Firstborn Son/Angel is superior to the other Sons/Angels; the Firstborn is the beginning of His Father's Strength (
Rev. 3:14) and
inherits the Father's Blessing and
BIRTHRIGHT.
Deuteronomy 21:17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated [for]
the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he [is]
the beginning of his strength;
the right of the firstborn [is] his.
Hebrews 1
1:1 God, Who at sundry times and in diverse manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the Prophets,
1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by
[His] Son, whom
He hath appointed
HEIR (one cannot be their own heir) of all things,
by whom also He made the worlds;
1:3 Who being the brightness of [His] glory, and the express
image (likeness) of His person, and upholding all things
by the Word of His power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of His Majesty on high;
1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath
by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they (the
FIRSTBORN inherits a double-portion; obviously you can't
inherit something from yourself)
1:5 For unto which of the angels said He at any time, Thou art My Son, this day have I incarnated thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to Me a Son?
1:6 And again, when He bringeth in the first incarnated into the world, He saith, And let all the angels of God worship him (look up to Him, the Firstborn
SON, as The Example).
1:7 And unto the angels He saith, Who maketh His angels spirits (Beings), and His ministers a flame of fire (energy).
1:8 But unto the Son,
Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy Kingdom.
1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated inequity; therefore God, [even]
thyGod, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows (spirit-beings). (Hebrews 1:8-9 are a direct quote of
Psalm 45:6-7, which are speaking to Father about Father's Throne).
1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the Beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
1:11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
1:12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
1:13 But to which of the angels said He at any time, Sit on My right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? (None except His Firstborn
SON, Whose Right it is to inherit the Throne – Hence the title “the Great Prince”:
Prince Michael).
1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be
heirs of salvation?
Notes:
- A son is
obviously the offspring of his father.
- An heir is someone who stands to inherit something from another. One cannot inherit something from themselves.
- A prince is the heir to the throne of the king.
These things are very easy to grasp
IF one leaves out the satanic made-up doctrines and religious superstitious nonsense, aka man-made traditions.
Matt 23
12 ... those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.
Amen to that.
