BTS discussion thread

[sandonthebeach]

He made a solo agency for himself and now his releasing a music video

But the important thing is, who's producing the video and the album? Who are the director, creative staff..so on? Who's gonna organize the fanmeetings? Kang Daniel? I highly doubt it. The ones who produces these stuff are the ones to put the symbolism and other dark stuff. Kang Daniel, BTS and others are just the faces to show the symbolism. Pretty faces attract a lot, they are the bait.

They created different characters for each member so that anyone could be drawn in

BTS and other groups sell a fantasy. That's why the dating bans, or at least they have to keep it low if they're dating someone. The creation of characters is quite old, kpop didn't invent this. They took it from boygroups of the 90's in the West, each member of the group had a role, the bad guy, the funny one, the oldest...so on. You see, nothing new, really. Even the Spice Girls had a role too, like Mel C was called "the sporty one".

For BTS, the thing is clear; they have created and mold this image of them as underdogs that have worked their way to the top, fighting all the bigwigs of the industry. BTS is family and they are like brothers. The underdog image is sympathetic, specially, to a lot of people in the fandom who themselves may be of low self-esteem, have troubles at school or college, are the quirky ones...so on. From here, Bigh1t creates the emotional bond, so that the fans engages with BTS. So, buy the merchandise, go to the concerts, be talking and promoting BTS in social webs..so on. It's frightening, because, they have created a sect like fandom, but to the company is giving lots of money.

 

[cadiz]

But the important thing is, who's producing the video and the album? Who are the director, creative staff..so on? Who's gonna organize the fanmeetings? Kang Daniel? I highly doubt it. The ones who produces these stuff are the ones to put the symbolism and other dark stuff. Kang Daniel, BTS and others are just the faces to show the symbolism. Pretty faces attract a lot, they are the bait.

Im not sure....a few motnhs ago he was being blacklisted. Then he showed up again saying he was going to open a "one man agency" with what money??? no idea....its obvious he has someone powerful behind him and of course his fans are going to support him because he is "alone" so he needs their money

You can see on his album sales, fans going full force

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1153539284785217536

BTS and other groups sell a fantasy. That's why the dating bans, or at least they have to keep it low if they're dating someone. The creation of characters is quite old, kpop didn't invent this. They took it from boygroups of the 90's in the West, each member of the group had a role, the bad guy, the funny one, the oldest...so on. You see, nothing new, really. Even the Spice Girls had a role too, like Mel C was called "the sporty one".

For BTS, the thing is clear; they have created and mold this image of them as underdogs that have worked their way to the top, fighting all the bigwigs of the industry. BTS is family and they are like brothers. The underdog image is sympathetic, specially, to a lot of people in the fandom who themselves may be of low self-esteem, have troubles at school or college, are the quirky ones...so on. From here, Bigh1t creates the emotional bond, so that the fans engages with BTS. So, buy the merchandise, go to the concerts, be talking and promoting BTS in social webs..so on. It's frightening, because, they have created a sect like fandom, but to the company is giving lots of money.

Their characters are even more obvious when you see that BTS game and how BH is using their "real struggles" as another script for the game
All of them have a specific quality (the cute one, the lazy one, the alien one, the smart one, etc)....they are like cartoon characters

 

[relevant]

i feel so stupid but have you seen that bts run ep 80 when they were the only people on a mall full of clothes, watches and many valuable things still they were playing that stupid game instead of exploring and enjoying the opportunity they had .. somehow i feel like that's how they are sadly living, it's like they have everything they want but they can't enjoy anything as if nothing is really theirs and instead they be just playing a "game" that is tours, interviews, photoshoots,making albums and all that shit ... plus how is it possible for them to be so fucking successful yet some silly youtubers earn much more than all their net worth combined ¿¿¿ to be honest sometimes i think that the only thing they must be thankful for is to have each other and the love of many people, no one really knows what evil shit they are going through

 

[Michelle44]

i feel so stupid but have you seen that bts run ep 80 when they were the only people on a mall full of clothes, watches and many valuable things still they were playing that stupid game instead of exploring and enjoying the opportunity they had .. somehow i feel like that's how they are sadly living, it's like they have everything they want but they can't enjoy anything as if nothing is really theirs and instead they be just playing a "game" that is tours, interviews, photoshoots,making albums and all that shit ... plus how is it possible for them to be so fucking successful yet some silly youtubers earn much more than all their net worth combined ¿¿¿ to be honest sometimes i think that the only thing they must be thankful for is to have each other and the love of many people, no one really knows what evil shit they are going through

I can’t really feel bad for them, we can’t know how they truly are, no one will. And I see you’re point but idk I agree with a comment that I saw before I can’t really have pity, for all we know they could be horrible people, but how would we know when all we see is the fabricated stuff. All we see are the personas, at the end of the day they chose this path and they have to face the consequences. They’re not all that innocent, and ik for a fact one day all the hidden stuff that bh and them have done will come out. Vlive and the bts games are used to make you feel more attached to them bc you get to see the “real” them.

 

[Shuna]

This part of the prologue to Seventeen, makes me think of the clip, or Jonghyun and another girl, swallows one of the cakes "who in the clip, kills him": This time I think of V or at least someone who plays the instrument, but with all that we say ...:


In addition to the title that is not very bad with the clip "Married To The Music".

Also referring to the NCT clip, with the string (now in the trailer), representation of the line created by the limbs to transmit energy, black as dead, as if the other members were letting it go.

And V is shot? At the same time in the very first clip, it is shot on it.

 

[Meiroo]

"Their 2-Month Break" ???
https://www.elitedaily.com/p/heres-how-to-keep-up-with-bts-during-their-2-month-break-18225414

 

[cadiz]

I read somewhere that kang d@niel was picked up and favoured in that produce 101 show from the beginning.
During other members' auditions,audience were shown daniel's expressions almost all the time.
And it seems,he was the only one with a striking pink hair during the show,separating him from the rest of the participants.So,it would be easy for audience to remember him.
You see,the winners are already fixed before these shows even begin and they accordingly show the narrative.
My heart actually goes out to the other participants who have to work hard and put up a show for this one person.I don't think they would be in the know from the beginning.
So,just dangle the carrot infront of them and get them do the circus to make your chosen one the winner.So unfair.
And the winners of these reality shows have to go through those se* rituals to actually get the win.Disgusting.

yes, all those shows are rigged.
There was a new season of the produce101 show this year and fans found out the final results were rigged and now they are suing the channel

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1153918762334085120

everything for Kang Daniel was planned, he was showed as some nice, humble guy.
when you ask people why is kang daniel so popular? they just say....he is charming and nice guy lol thats the only reason

 

[cadiz]

Ley lines.
I'm sure you guys are aware of these lines that show the movement of magnetic energy in the earth and which the occult and secret organisations believe to have spiritual signinficance.They even do a lot of their rituals along these lines.
Also,monarch programming,helps in actually opening these portals in the programmed.Remember what the 'insider' ranfan said in kp0p thread about programming?The kp0p artists are actively undergoing the programming for the greater good.They are being taught so and I think it's because most of them are born into this and think it's normal.
So,I'm not sure one has to even feel sympathy for those going through this.They already know what they've to do.
Anyway,I was over at the demonic possession thread where people were talking about the danger of spells getting cast through internet.And then,I remembered someone mentioning here about fans getting addicted to vlives and bangt@n bombs and other bigshit content.I'm aware that a long while ago,there was talk that all the bigshit content has some spells cast on them and demons attached to them.
Well,I just found out that even many of the social media like twitter,facebook and insta and apps including gaming ones like bigshit's interactive game and weverse actually can be used as leylines on astral plane for the spirits to travel and reach the people.So,when someone accepts the agreement and installs the app or opens an account,they are effectively opening a portal for these spells to work and demons to act.
You see,just like in these vampire movies,when a person has to give them permission to enter their house,being fully aware or not.And once they enter,it gets very difficult to make them leave.
The same might be happening to the fans.They are unsuspectingly getting ensnared in the spells.
And don't think that bt5 guys don't know about this.For the spells to act,they have to actively put those into the content.Sure,there'll be an overseer for the rituals but they have to do their part as well with a clear intent.
They exactly know what they're putting these young fans through.But,they have no qualms about it.
All they care about is money.

I think when people are in low-vibrations is way easier for those "spells" to have an effect....BH takes full advantage of Armys dependency on BTS

look at this from the weverse app

Here is RM (some bot pretending to be him) telling the fans "dont worry at least this planet has Namjoon"
The fans was talking about some real life problem like failing driving test....but the bot answer was weird.....the fan should forget about her problems because RM exists?

 

[Meiroo]

I think when people are in low-vibrations is way easier for those "spells" to have an effect....BH takes full advantage of Armys dependency on BTS

look at this from the weverse app

Here is RM (some bot pretending to be him) telling the fans "dont worry at least this planet has Namjoon"
The fans was talking about some real life problem like failing driving test....but the bot answer was weird.....the fan should forget about her problems because RM exists?

I'm curious, if I had this app and would ask a question about all this suspicious stuff, would I get an answer? Or maybe it would erase my question...

 

[cadiz]

"Their 2-Month Break" ???
https://www.elitedaily.com/p/heres-how-to-keep-up-with-bts-during-their-2-month-break-18225414

oh I didnt know they were taking a break....2 months? that seems like a long time for BH
And this part:

"For example, the report explains that while they won't be touring, the boys will be using the time "off" to work on solo projects and more "commercial shoots and content productions."

solo projects already starting??....enlisting might be really happening next year

 

[Shuna]

This part of the prologue to Seventeen, makes me think of the clip, or Jonghyun and another girl, swallows one of the cakes "who in the clip, kills him": This time I think of V or at least someone who plays the instrument, but with all that we say ...:
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In addition to the title that is not very bad with the clip "Married To The Music".

Also referring to the NCT clip, with the string (now in the trailer), representation of the line created by the limbs to transmit energy, black as dead, as if the other members were letting it go.

And V is shot? At the same time in the very first clip, it is shot on it.

I add the trailer of Taemin:
He drops his weapon into the water for a moment and will shoot someone, plus he eats an apple, in addition to many other references, especially references to Wings and Blood Sweat And Tears.

It also has a lot of reference to the car, visible in Taemin's Press Your Number and EXO's Love Shot (which also has a reference to the service station, very present in the BTS clips, in addition to the fire truck (see below for the reason of the fire). He also has a real weapon, in addition to that of alcohol and he arrives at three in an opera, in the trailer of the game, they go to the cinema, the chairs are the same and many other clips are the reference to place, he also the reference in the trailer of Wings, V ends up on stage. He also has the camera that is reflected in the eye, the weapon has a small red light, as it snipers in the Seventeen prologue.), with the flowers in the trunk. Taemin is tied in the trunk, in his new trailer, he is attached. The car accident is also very repetitive, Suga burning his room, Taemin burning the car. The robbery of Taemin, of a shop, where he is also the manager, V is the one who holds the shop, then he comes to buy things. He also prevents a steal. The weapon falls into the water, the car falls into the water, and in Flame of Lovers, Taemin dances on the crashed car, and drowns in the water. In addition in the clip Press Your Number he has 6 dancers, 7 with Taemin. For the Blue Rose, I went to see the clip UP10TION, and in the clip in addition to talking about the goddess of the moon, they can not reach "except in death", he has a photo, criminal search and next to an article surround with tagging "War News _" (I unfortunately can not read the end ...). But, the Wings of RM who gathers all the clips, on the phone, he has War written in blood letter (he obviously has different explanation and all I wrote is a guess, but it's too close, for to be taken into account. And in addition he has a gun in this clip ... In RUN, at the beginning of the clip, V falls into the water as if it were shot in the head.

 

[sandonthebeach]

There was a new season of the produce101 show this year and fans found out the final results were rigged and now they are suing the channel

A whole soap opera. The fans have even have asked to mathematics and statistics professors about it. One of the professors said this "The given statistics of the votes are reasonably suspicious. However, in statistics, more data is needed to validate any statistical error." So, the fans proceed to ask for the raw data to Msnake...and guess what was the answer.....No way Jose. Fans threatened will a legal lawsuit and....voilà, Mnet admits some errors but they won't change anything.

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/mathematic-statistic-specialists-mnet-rigged-votes-produce-x-101/
http://www.asianjunkie.com/2019/07/24/mnet-admits-to-errors-in-x1-pd101-voting-tallies-following-threats-of-lawsuit-investigation/

why is kang daniel so popular? they just say....he is charming and nice guy lol thats the only reason

audience were shown daniel's expressions almost all the time.

The power the media has. This is an example.

Two months break for BTS? They really need it.

 

[Truthteller]

the only way to get of of this "pact" is dying.... thats it

I talked about kang daniel not long ago....this guy is very popular idol, he sued his company and went solo. I thought "this guy is finally FREE" but nope
He made a solo agency for himself and now his releasing a music video. Guess what?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1153713760118460416

video full of symbolism....he is alone but he still part of it. He cant stop working for them and pushing their agenda
So even if BTS leave BH or they leave the group they will forever be puppets.....they will debut under another company or get into acting etc....but they will still work for "them"

So TVXQ is another very famous kpop group, though they only have 2 members left of the original 5? The others left suing SM entertainment which at the time was the biggest and most powerful entertainment company including this guy Jaejoong. He has made quite a career for himself outside of SM and is big in Japan apparently. I recently saw a magazine cover of him with the one eyed symbolism
https://www.allkpop.com/upload/2019/03/content/151241/d1cc8q9v4aakoqojpg.jpg

And he has this tattoo which I guess is pretty self explanatory

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/830688581647683585

Truth as long as they want to keep a high profile career in the industry, they have to be complicit, doesn’t matter if they quit Big$hit or not. As you said the only way out is death either literally or as as celebrity. It doesn’t look like bt$ hate the fame too much, every time the reporters come photographing them at airports or events and they are in the mood, their eyes are gleaming, even TH. Money aside, fame itself is addictive. That is why many struggle with becoming irrelevant. Objectively speaking there aren’t many choices for them outside the industry either. Even if they start businesses there is no guarantee they’ll succeed without their celebrity status and income.

 

[cadiz]

It's not actually a break when they're working on other content.It's more like a break from interacting with fans.
You bet they will go under the knife some more,in this break from public eye.
And get this.There are actually 3 neo-pagan sabbaths in the next three months.
On august 1st is lammas(one fo the 4 greater sabbaths and beginning of harvest season) where practitioners are expected to give a sacrifice to reap the benefits during autumn equinox rituals (september 23,called mabon).
Look out for any new mv or some tragedy around the group.
These people get a lot of time to take part in these rituals,conveniently masked under the name of 'taking a break'.
And will be back right in time for mabon or at the least when the rituals begin for samhain(halloween).
'They' love october.
And look at the timing.
The voting for grammy will end in october for the nominations.And they take a break during the whole voting process.
Ain't it a great time to do some lobbying and giving favours?

Also,if they haven't yet got their 33rd degree,this is the time they're going to get it.
I personally think that tea already got his 33,which maybe why he is trying to separate himself from them.
There will be hints around him and even the group once they get their 33 to inform those in the know of their promotion.It will be really subtle,something like a picture frame or some random clock showing 33 or even them mentioning that number as part of their conversation.
They are going all-in now.
I for one am curious to see how the hand will play out.

it looks like Jimin was spotted filming something, so they are not really taking a break but staying out of the public eye

Like you say it might be time for rituals (before Grammy)....or maybe BH knows about all the recent comments , people complaining about BTS over saturation and wants to keep them hidden for a bit
2 months is a long time ...I doubt BH can keep that promise unless they are getting something big in return

 

[Shuna]

I add the trailer of Taemin:
He drops his weapon into the water for a moment and will shoot someone, plus he eats an apple, in addition to many other references, especially references to Wings and Blood Sweat And Tears.

It also has a lot of reference to the car, visible in Taemin's Press Your Number and EXO's Love Shot (which also has a reference to the service station, very present in the BTS clips, in addition to the fire truck (see below for the reason of the fire). He also has a real weapon, in addition to that of alcohol and he arrives at three in an opera, in the trailer of the game, they go to the cinema, the chairs are the same and many other clips are the reference to place, he also the reference in the trailer of Wings, V ends up on stage. He also has the camera that is reflected in the eye, the weapon has a small red light, as it snipers in the Seventeen prologue.), with the flowers in the trunk. Taemin is tied in the trunk, in his new trailer, he is attached. The car accident is also very repetitive, Suga burning his room, Taemin burning the car. The robbery of Taemin, of a shop, where he is also the manager, V is the one who holds the shop, then he comes to buy things. He also prevents a steal. The weapon falls into the water, the car falls into the water, and in Flame of Lovers, Taemin dances on the crashed car, and drowns in the water. In addition in the clip Press Your Number he has 6 dancers, 7 with Taemin. For the Blue Rose, I went to see the clip UP10TION, and in the clip in addition to talking about the goddess of the moon, they can not reach "except in death", he has a photo, criminal search and next to an article surround with tagging "War News _" (I unfortunately can not read the end ...). But, the Wings of RM who gathers all the clips, on the phone, he has War written in blood letter (he obviously has different explanation and all I wrote is a guess, but it's too close, for to be taken into account. And in addition he has a gun in this clip ... In RUN, at the beginning of the clip, V falls into the water as if it were shot in the head.

In August D of August D, I noticed that the clip could make think of the scene, where V kills his father.
And after according to what I wrote, the scene after the truck accident. Is it me or did they do two scenes in one? The first one, the right part represents an accident on a crossing, whereas this one of left represents a spit of a cliff:



In Danger, in the background we see 6 shopping carts burned on a fillet of water,like the car dropped from the plane in Fire.
It also has a lot of reference in the clips, alcohol, drug or drug dose.
Jungkook to a car accident, I repeat the first sentence, V could also fall behind because of a car accident.

The girls of Lady Code have in one of their clips four bars striped of one, are also visible in the clip of Jonghyun and on the car in Fire of BTS. In addition to that Jin, wears at the end of 'LOVE YOURSELF Highlight Reel' after the death of his girlfriend, he wears a striped top, like the one to wear Jonghyun in his latest clip.

 

[Hopeful]

Everyone they collabed with.. So far.. Is Problematic.. And they get away with it...
I am really hoping to see the day when their fans wakeup to this..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1154243902603444224

 

[Hopeful]

Report by the hired dancers during AGT after the performance and interaction with the company b1gh1t..

 

[Meiroo]

'They' love october.

https://newsarticleinsiders.com/bts-suga-v-themed-streets
"The group played in Japan this month and plans to perform in Saudi Arabia in October."

 

[cadiz]

Everyone they collabed with.. So far.. Is Problematic.. And they get away with it...
I am really hoping to see the day when their fans wakeup to this..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1154243902603444224

they would do anything for money, and this "old town road" song is very popular in america
I listened to the song and is the same as the original, RM only appears for a few seconds.....there is no purposse for this except money and getting some attention

I guess my theory about BTS trying to hide because of the over saturation was wrong lol.....they cant be out of the spotlight for long

 

[Navy]

You are not realising the fact that it's not just their collaborators that are problematic.
It's bt5 as well.It's just that their skeletons are still deep in the closet.

They definitely are and all this will be revealed when the elites don't want them anymore example bigbong