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So I have news that might sound stupid but I think it might be half true. Years ago there was a comment on Youtube that went viral among Army's and my friend told me about this. She said that the comment was made by an army from the future. (I know this sounds stupid but continue reading) So the comment said that some things from the BTS storyline was true and that Army's had to re-watch Euphoria. And I used to be an Army so I still remember at least a bit of the music video and in the BTS timeline it was only fake happiness and that it was sad because things were going to get dark again. Then my friend said that the comment also talked about May of 2021. It said that May was an important month and they posted this comment on April 4. Many people said it was fake and that Army shouldn't worry about it. However my friend said that Euphoria was published on April 5th and there wasn't a teaser or anything about the video and no one knew that Jungkook would have a solo. It was kind of like a suprisde video type of thing. She started to worry because she started to notice that many things from the BTS timeline included the devil and evil things. She stopped being Army now and we both are a little confused at how this person knew that Euphoria was going to come out. What do you guys think?
probably someone who is good at predicting the future
 

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he has a big fanbase that will probably buy the albums... but I dont see him reaching superstar status. The other members help him a lot to stand out. But when you watch him perform alone there is no "spark"

this video is an example....he was supposed to be the star but as soon as Jhope and V join (as back up dancers) they steal his shine..


He goes with the moves, but he lacks in the facial expressions and overal charisma, looks too rehearsed

Someone made a thread (again) about how bighit actively mistreats taehyung..


It's pretty long and detailed. recently fans have started to be very vocal against bighit. Until they stop buying movie tickets (as tae will probably be given ZERO screentime per usual) and not buying merch and products only then it will really have an effect. But fans wont and bighit knows. They laugh at them, discriminating tae and the fans outrage and stream his music "on purpose " ",to show bighit v is loved" essentially putting more money in the pockets of the people who mistreat him..
At this point I dont know their strategy anymore, its like they are really trying to rile up fans ...


I have a strong feeling with jin's enlistment their career will stop. They frantically want to milk as much cash as possible from fans right now and all ways go. So many concerts, releases, merch and shit before their chicken will stop laying golden eggs. We know txt ain't be happening and they dont have an alternative plan to keep cash streaming. Perhaps make JK a solo artist and push him until his enlistment too.
 

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Someone made a thread (again) about how bighit actively mistreats taehyung..


It's pretty long and detailed. recently fans have started to be very vocal against bighit. Until they stop buying movie tickets (as tae will probably be given ZERO screentime per usual) and not buying merch and products only then it will really have an effect. But fans wont and bighit knows. They laugh at them, discriminating tae and the fans outrage and stream his music "on purpose " ",to show bighit v is loved" essentially putting more money in the pockets of the people who mistreat him..
At this point I dont know their strategy anymore, its like they are really trying to rile up fans ...


I have a strong feeling with jin's enlistment their career will stop. They frantically want to milk as much cash as possible from fans right now and all ways go. So many concerts, releases, merch and shit before their chicken will stop laying golden eggs. We know txt ain't be happening and they dont have an alternative plan to keep cash streaming. Perhaps make JK a solo artist and push him until his enlistment too.
maybe they forgot about him because he is a potential sacrifice or the company is really against him cause he is very rebellious, but i think in this case, he would be happy if he is the least promoted member cause i think they all want their fame to die down.
 

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Someone made a thread (again) about how bighit actively mistreats taehyung..


It's pretty long and detailed. recently fans have started to be very vocal against bighit. Until they stop buying movie tickets (as tae will probably be given ZERO screentime per usual) and not buying merch and products only then it will really have an effect. But fans wont and bighit knows. They laugh at them, discriminating tae and the fans outrage and stream his music "on purpose " ",to show bighit v is loved" essentially putting more money in the pockets of the people who mistreat him..
At this point I dont know their strategy anymore, its like they are really trying to rile up fans ...


I have a strong feeling with jin's enlistment their career will stop. They frantically want to milk as much cash as possible from fans right now and all ways go. So many concerts, releases, merch and shit before their chicken will stop laying golden eggs. We know txt ain't be happening and they dont have an alternative plan to keep cash streaming. Perhaps make JK a solo artist and push him until his enlistment too.
But there is more to these screenshots story.. Which this poster didn't post and tried to start a drama of his or her own about tae being mistreated.. The story goes something like this after these 2 scenes..
 

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But there is more to these screenshots story.. Which this poster didn't post and tried to start a drama of his or her own about tae being mistreated.. The story goes something like this after these 2 scenes..
Ah yes I later saw it too, but they are again using members insecurities as story lines in this stupid game.. to trigger fans or stir drama .. just like with jimins eating disorders.. if its meant for fun, why bring these themes to the game (and tae has spoken about being afraid he is useless and their damn manager not remembering his name for a whole fucking year, like how many bands do you have that it's so hard to remember a name). Yes later on the game was shifted to a positive note but they KNEW fans will be mad when they saw this..
 

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Honestly, the group is gonna hit a dead end at some point, I kinda get tired of seeing them everywhere, like literally everywhere, yeah they're talented but I mean they reached that level of fame because they high key made some pact with the devil. Have you seen how they act during award shows while watching other groups perform. Especially Jin, Jimin, and Jungkook they look like they're traumatized or idk it reminds of that seen in "Get Out" were the guy would kinda go into this weird state of mind. Soon another group just like them is gonna come out, and then they're gonna be forgotten and the other group will take they're place. I wouldn't be surprised if something happened to one of the members (I'm not wishing it upon them), but Jonghyun's death was not out of the blue, it prob had something to do with the illuminati. I also think the only member that is gonna get their career extended is Jungkook, yeah he lacks a bit of charisma but out of all the members he's the strongest in other areas. I feel bad for him bc he's clearly brainwashed, and he was also the last one to get integrated into whatever cult they have going on. I don't think he wanted to as he's seen running away in "Fake Love", but I mean if the other 6 people that raised you did, it's easy to get manipulated into it. He's not a victim tho, any of them could get out of it if they wanted to. Anyways these are just thoughts, idk if im right, please no hate. I'm not a fan but I was back in 2014 and I never really gave my opinion cause Armys are too much and can't take anything but praise.
They could get out if they wanted to but celebrities especially those with so much fame like them may be hard to let go so easily by the elite and they may end up dead :( see the case of Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston
 

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Honestly, the group is gonna hit a dead end at some point, I kinda get tired of seeing them everywhere, like literally everywhere, yeah they're talented but I mean they reached that level of fame because they high key made some pact with the devil. Have you seen how they act during award shows while watching other groups perform. Especially Jin, Jimin, and Jungkook they look like they're traumatized or idk it reminds of that seen in "Get Out" were the guy would kinda go into this weird state of mind. Soon another group just like them is gonna come out, and then they're gonna be forgotten and the other group will take they're place. I wouldn't be surprised if something happened to one of the members (I'm not wishing it upon them), but Jonghyun's death was not out of the blue, it prob had something to do with the illuminati. I also think the only member that is gonna get their career extended is Jungkook, yeah he lacks a bit of charisma but out of all the members he's the strongest in other areas. I feel bad for him bc he's clearly brainwashed, and he was also the last one to get integrated into whatever cult they have going on. I don't think he wanted to as he's seen running away in "Fake Love", but I mean if the other 6 people that raised you did, it's easy to get manipulated into it. He's not a victim tho, any of them could get out of it if they wanted to. Anyways these are just thoughts, idk if im right, please no hate. I'm not a fan but I was back in 2014 and I never really gave my opinion cause Armys are too much and can't take anything but praise.
I think I saw somewhere that it was his parents that sold him to the industry at a young age? :(
 

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Hello! I recently discovered this thread here (thank God) and have been following it for a few days now. I thought I'd share my own experience with BTS. I'd like to start with saying that I discovered them by accident in 2014 and became a fan right then. And just a few days ago I gave up Kpop completely, as it was clear as day to me that it replaced God in my heart - that never should've happened. My bias was JK - Yes, that doe-eyed golden maknae. What I found out here is simply mind-blowing and I have no shadow of doubt most is 100% true.

I've been wondering if someone might've experienced what I feel now. I know that they're certainly on satan's side. I don't want to listen to their music anymore. I don't feel the need to see them. Rather than temptation.. I'm feeling overwhelming pity. Reading about the MK Ultra and all those things.. They used to be normal people.. They used to be innocent kids with dreams.. It just hurts so much to think of what they've become.. Did they do it willingly? Or were they forced? These questions keep torturing me..
Yeah I understand I went through a similar experience, it's so hard to tell because bh planned it all so well. It took me a while to understand it and how it went down. And I still don't fully but I do see some things better now. To answer your question: I personally think that they willingly joined, but I don't think everyone did, I think some members did and others did not and were instead manipulated. I think RM, SUGA, V, JIN joined bc of greed or another reason. But JIMIN, JH, JK seem a bit more in a state that mk ultra would result in. Now here's the thing they no what good and bad is, if they want to end it why don't they stop renewing their contracts? So I honestly think the money and all that got to them at the end they can choose to do what they want, if they really would have wanted to stop, they would have long time ago.

Now this is something that I've been wanting to explain for a long time:

They're really deceiving and I think thats something that tricks a lot of people, like they can seem the most genuine, but they're music vids say other wise "Fake Love" clearly shows that they are fake and don't care about anything but the money. They target people who are seeking love and acceptance. I realized that because now that I look back to 2014, I realize that I was really seeking to feel accepted. And not only that take a look at their fandom, its made up mainly of teenagers who are going through the hard stuff like depression, or sexuality, or problems with family or friends. The occult and BH really know how to manipulate stuff the way they released the "BANGTAN BOMBS" or whatever they're called, to make them seem authentic and to start to present their personas, the way they to those games on vlive. They created different characters for each member so that anyone could be drawn in. All those are tricks that really work bc they make you wonder "How did they sell their souls, they look like such fun genuine people?". But watch their performances, they wear masks symbolizing that its just a character they present to the fandom. Because thats exactly what they've been trained to do and they don't go against it bc why ruin something that is bringing them riches and fame. They want people to feel like they are them, and that they can count on them through their music. THATS ALL BS, wake up people, THEY DONT CARE, they are just puppets and IM SO TIRED of seeing people praising them because they accept everyone and are amazing human beings. That's why their fandom is so strong, they are tricked into thinking seven guys care about them and love them. They distract people from their normal lives, from family, school and most importantly GOD. The devil knows what he's doing, not only does he have kids now but even adults trapped and obsessed with them. And I don't blame people for being obsessed its easy to find comfort and a distraction in them but thats exactly what the occult wants, I honestly wished I would of never gotten introduced to them. It would of saved me a lot of time, it took me so long to detach myself from whatever spell or trick they use to make you so blind to think they are "all" nice, sweet and the most caring people. So if you are trying to cut all ties, cut them all, and don't expect to be over them in a few weeks or even months. Just pray and find other productive things to do.

I attached some screenshots, I thought that performance said a lot, I think the members that are tied up went through a lot of brainwashing/ or they feel trapped. While the members that are untied might have joined because of the "benefits".
 

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There is now the issue of the vma's.. they have been nominated, finally, but as kpop act and collab (not for best video or any major award) so now fans claim for xenophobia. I think armys fail to realise bts are not mainstream in the us, not a household names in the west, if you ask a random person on the street if he heard of Taylor swift or bts I am sure the answer is clear... but I am thinking if its another trick of bighit ft the media to victimize them AGAIN as angsty fans mean money. I cant believe people think they can win a Grammy (though I wouldn't be surprised if they did, it's not like its about music or talent anyway)

Armys being delulu, example

 

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Yeah I understand I went through a similar experience, it's so hard to tell because bh planned it all so well. It took me a while to understand it and how it went down. And I still don't fully but I do see some things better now. To answer your question: I personally think that they willingly joined, but I don't think everyone did, I think some members did and others did not and were instead manipulated. I think RM, SUGA, V, JIN joined bc of greed or another reason. But JIMIN, JH, JK seem a bit more in a state that mk ultra would result in. Now here's the thing they no what good and bad is, if they want to end it why don't they stop renewing their contracts? So I honestly think the money and all that got to them at the end they can choose to do what they want, if they really would have wanted to stop, they would have long time ago.

Now this is something that I've been wanting to explain for a long time:

They're really deceiving and I think thats something that tricks a lot of people, like they can seem the most genuine, but they're music vids say other wise "Fake Love" clearly shows that they are fake and don't care about anything but the money. They target people who are seeking love and acceptance. I realized that because now that I look back to 2014, I realize that I was really seeking to feel accepted. And not only that take a look at their fandom, its made up mainly of teenagers who are going through the hard stuff like depression, or sexuality, or problems with family or friends. The occult and BH really know how to manipulate stuff the way they released the "BANGTAN BOMBS" or whatever they're called, to make them seem authentic and to start to present their personas, the way they to those games on vlive. They created different characters for each member so that anyone could be drawn in. All those are tricks that really work bc they make you wonder "How did they sell their souls, they look like such fun genuine people?". But watch their performances, they wear masks symbolizing that its just a character they present to the fandom. Because thats exactly what they've been trained to do and they don't go against it bc why ruin something that is bringing them riches and fame. They want people to feel like they are them, and that they can count on them through their music. THATS ALL BS, wake up people, THEY DONT CARE, they are just puppets and IM SO TIRED of seeing people praising them because they accept everyone and are amazing human beings. That's why their fandom is so strong, they are tricked into thinking seven guys care about them and love them. They distract people from their normal lives, from family, school and most importantly GOD. The devil knows what he's doing, not only does he have kids now but even adults trapped and obsessed with them. And I don't blame people for being obsessed its easy to find comfort and a distraction in them but thats exactly what the occult wants, I honestly wished I would of never gotten introduced to them. It would of saved me a lot of time, it took me so long to detach myself from whatever spell or trick they use to make you so blind to think they are "all" nice, sweet and the most caring people. So if you are trying to cut all ties, cut them all, and don't expect to be over them in a few weeks or even months. Just pray and find other productive things to do.

I attached some screenshots, I thought that performance said a lot, I think the members that are tied up went through a lot of brainwashing/ or they feel trapped. While the members that are untied might have joined because of the "benefits".
that why i don't pity any of them. They gross me out, they doesn't seem to be bothered by it, they interact with fans on weverse and reply to them innocently which make the fans more obssessed and hopeful, so they would spend their time there, and hoping that they would be noticed by them one day also. They also seem to brainwash their fan a lot. I remember one time they told army to stuck only with armys friends, or one day rm said to a fan on fansign that her boyfriend was against her passion( liking bts) and rm told her to broke up with him. They controll their fans life. So no, i don't feel sorry for them.
They are totally okay with their situations, (rituals, abuse, overworking)because they got what they want, the money.
 

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There is now the issue of the vma's.. they have been nominated, finally, but as kpop act and collab (not for best video or any major award) so now fans claim for xenophobia. I think armys fail to realise bts are not mainstream in the us, not a household names in the west, if you ask a random person on the street if he heard of Taylor swift or bts I am sure the answer is clear... but I am thinking if its another trick of bighit ft the media to victimize them AGAIN as angsty fans mean money. I cant believe people think they can win a Grammy (though I wouldn't be surprised if they did, it's not like its about music or talent anyway)
VMAs giving them irrelevant nominations just like the Grammys did
Yes, Grammys are rigged and BTS are being promoted, but last year they only got a package nomination

Major awards like "song of the year" or "album of the year" are too much.....its not about xenophobia but BTS music is not relevant enough to get those awards. Not even in the VMAS that are a has been award nobody cares about
 

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Yeah I understand I went through a similar experience, it's so hard to tell because bh planned it all so well. It took me a while to understand it and how it went down. And I still don't fully but I do see some things better now. To answer your question: I personally think that they willingly joined, but I don't think everyone did, I think some members did and others did not and were instead manipulated. I think RM, SUGA, V, JIN joined bc of greed or another reason. But JIMIN, JH, JK seem a bit more in a state that mk ultra would result in. Now here's the thing they no what good and bad is, if they want to end it why don't they stop renewing their contracts? So I honestly think the money and all that got to them at the end they can choose to do what they want, if they really would have wanted to stop, they would have long time ago.

Now this is something that I've been wanting to explain for a long time:

They're really deceiving and I think thats something that tricks a lot of people, like they can seem the most genuine, but they're music vids say other wise "Fake Love" clearly shows that they are fake and don't care about anything but the money. They target people who are seeking love and acceptance. I realized that because now that I look back to 2014, I realize that I was really seeking to feel accepted. And not only that take a look at their fandom, its made up mainly of teenagers who are going through the hard stuff like depression, or sexuality, or problems with family or friends. The occult and BH really know how to manipulate stuff the way they released the "BANGTAN BOMBS" or whatever they're called, to make them seem authentic and to start to present their personas, the way they to those games on vlive. They created different characters for each member so that anyone could be drawn in. All those are tricks that really work bc they make you wonder "How did they sell their souls, they look like such fun genuine people?". But watch their performances, they wear masks symbolizing that its just a character they present to the fandom. Because thats exactly what they've been trained to do and they don't go against it bc why ruin something that is bringing them riches and fame. They want people to feel like they are them, and that they can count on them through their music. THATS ALL BS, wake up people, THEY DONT CARE, they are just puppets and IM SO TIRED of seeing people praising them because they accept everyone and are amazing human beings. That's why their fandom is so strong, they are tricked into thinking seven guys care about them and love them. They distract people from their normal lives, from family, school and most importantly GOD. The devil knows what he's doing, not only does he have kids now but even adults trapped and obsessed with them. And I don't blame people for being obsessed its easy to find comfort and a distraction in them but thats exactly what the occult wants, I honestly wished I would of never gotten introduced to them. It would of saved me a lot of time, it took me so long to detach myself from whatever spell or trick they use to make you so blind to think they are "all" nice, sweet and the most caring people. So if you are trying to cut all ties, cut them all, and don't expect to be over them in a few weeks or even months. Just pray and find other productive things to do.

I attached some screenshots, I thought that performance said a lot, I think the members that are tied up went through a lot of brainwashing/ or they feel trapped. While the members that are untied might have joined because of the "benefits".
the only way to get of of this "pact" is dying.... thats it

I talked about kang daniel not long ago....this guy is very popular idol, he sued his company and went solo. I thought "this guy is finally FREE" but nope
He made a solo agency for himself and now his releasing a music video. Guess what?


video full of symbolism....he is alone but he still part of it. He cant stop working for them and pushing their agenda
So even if BTS leave BH or they leave the group they will forever be puppets.....they will debut under another company or get into acting etc....but they will still work for "them"
 

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the only way to get of of this "pact" is dying.... thats it

I talked about kang daniel not long ago....this guy is very popular idol, he sued his company and went solo. I thought "this guy is finally FREE" but nope
He made a solo agency for himself and now his releasing a music video. Guess what?


video full of symbolism....he is alone but he still part of it. He cant stop working for them and pushing their agenda
So even if BTS leave BH or they leave the group they will forever be puppets.....they will debut under another company or get into acting etc....but they will still work for "them"
Yeah you're right, once you're in, you're in until you die. Even if some do regret, (I'm guessing everyone does at some point, bc imagine being a puppet for satan?) you can't just say bye and leave. Thats when suicide or an "accident" occurs, bc the occult doesn't allow anything to be said or exposed.
 

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Yeah you're right, once you're in, you're in until you die. Even if some do regret, (I'm guessing everyone does at some point, bc imagine being a puppet for satan?) you can't just say bye and leave. Thats when suicide or an "accident" occurs, bc the occult doesn't allow anything to be said or exposed.
yeah, thats the reason why most celebrities end up drug addicts and suicidal. Because of the things they have to do and see to get all that fame, and because one you do the "pact" there is no way out

Look at cardi B , rapping about being rich, and popular.But the other day this happened:


There is nothing happy about the celebrity life ....all that money and fame but you have to be their puppet forever
 

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He made a solo agency for himself and now his releasing a music video
But the important thing is, who's producing the video and the album? Who are the director, creative staff..so on? Who's gonna organize the fanmeetings? Kang Daniel? I highly doubt it. The ones who produces these stuff are the ones to put the symbolism and other dark stuff. Kang Daniel, BTS and others are just the faces to show the symbolism. Pretty faces attract a lot, they are the bait.

They created different characters for each member so that anyone could be drawn in
BTS and other groups sell a fantasy. That's why the dating bans, or at least they have to keep it low if they're dating someone. The creation of characters is quite old, kpop didn't invent this. They took it from boygroups of the 90's in the West, each member of the group had a role, the bad guy, the funny one, the oldest...so on. You see, nothing new, really. Even the Spice Girls had a role too, like Mel C was called "the sporty one".

For BTS, the thing is clear; they have created and mold this image of them as underdogs that have worked their way to the top, fighting all the bigwigs of the industry. BTS is family and they are like brothers. The underdog image is sympathetic, specially, to a lot of people in the fandom who themselves may be of low self-esteem, have troubles at school or college, are the quirky ones...so on. From here, Bigh1t creates the emotional bond, so that the fans engages with BTS. So, buy the merchandise, go to the concerts, be talking and promoting BTS in social webs..so on. It's frightening, because, they have created a sect like fandom, but to the company is giving lots of money.
 

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But the important thing is, who's producing the video and the album? Who are the director, creative staff..so on? Who's gonna organize the fanmeetings? Kang Daniel? I highly doubt it. The ones who produces these stuff are the ones to put the symbolism and other dark stuff. Kang Daniel, BTS and others are just the faces to show the symbolism. Pretty faces attract a lot, they are the bait.
Im not sure....a few motnhs ago he was being blacklisted. Then he showed up again saying he was going to open a "one man agency" with what money??? no idea....its obvious he has someone powerful behind him and of course his fans are going to support him because he is "alone" so he needs their money

You can see on his album sales, fans going full force


BTS and other groups sell a fantasy. That's why the dating bans, or at least they have to keep it low if they're dating someone. The creation of characters is quite old, kpop didn't invent this. They took it from boygroups of the 90's in the West, each member of the group had a role, the bad guy, the funny one, the oldest...so on. You see, nothing new, really. Even the Spice Girls had a role too, like Mel C was called "the sporty one".

For BTS, the thing is clear; they have created and mold this image of them as underdogs that have worked their way to the top, fighting all the bigwigs of the industry. BTS is family and they are like brothers. The underdog image is sympathetic, specially, to a lot of people in the fandom who themselves may be of low self-esteem, have troubles at school or college, are the quirky ones...so on. From here, Bigh1t creates the emotional bond, so that the fans engages with BTS. So, buy the merchandise, go to the concerts, be talking and promoting BTS in social webs..so on. It's frightening, because, they have created a sect like fandom, but to the company is giving lots of money.
Their characters are even more obvious when you see that BTS game and how BH is using their "real struggles" as another script for the game
All of them have a specific quality (the cute one, the lazy one, the alien one, the smart one, etc)....they are like cartoon characters
 

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i feel so stupid but have you seen that bts run ep 80 when they were the only people on a mall full of clothes, watches and many valuable things still they were playing that stupid game instead of exploring and enjoying the opportunity they had .. somehow i feel like that's how they are sadly living, it's like they have everything they want but they can't enjoy anything as if nothing is really theirs and instead they be just playing a "game" that is tours, interviews, photoshoots,making albums and all that shit ... plus how is it possible for them to be so fucking successful yet some silly youtubers earn much more than all their net worth combined ¿¿¿ to be honest sometimes i think that the only thing they must be thankful for is to have each other and the love of many people, no one really knows what evil shit they are going through
 

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i feel so stupid but have you seen that bts run ep 80 when they were the only people on a mall full of clothes, watches and many valuable things still they were playing that stupid game instead of exploring and enjoying the opportunity they had .. somehow i feel like that's how they are sadly living, it's like they have everything they want but they can't enjoy anything as if nothing is really theirs and instead they be just playing a "game" that is tours, interviews, photoshoots,making albums and all that shit ... plus how is it possible for them to be so fucking successful yet some silly youtubers earn much more than all their net worth combined ¿¿¿ to be honest sometimes i think that the only thing they must be thankful for is to have each other and the love of many people, no one really knows what evil shit they are going through
I can’t really feel bad for them, we can’t know how they truly are, no one will. And I see you’re point but idk I agree with a comment that I saw before I can’t really have pity, for all we know they could be horrible people, but how would we know when all we see is the fabricated stuff. All we see are the personas, at the end of the day they chose this path and they have to face the consequences. They’re not all that innocent, and ik for a fact one day all the hidden stuff that bh and them have done will come out. Vlive and the bts games are used to make you feel more attached to them bc you get to see the “real” them.
 
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