BTS discussion thread

[Brea]

The entire industry is lumped together, but I tend to think the Kore@n industry/kpop is worst. Why? Because it's presented in a such a way that seems innocent on the surface: "clean" lyrics all the while in the performances and music videos they're much more suggestive. It comes off as being harmless and pure but it's actually just as bad.

I totally agree with you. Koreans are known to be adorable and "innocent" and what not. Lots of people think all they do is eat strawberry shortcake and play with stuffed animals and watch anime, and be all "cuddly cuddly" 24/7. Um, last time I checked no one in this world is innocent. You have the most adorable kid ever, and that kid can murder another kid. I mean satan can appear as an angel of light but we all know what he REALLY comes to do.

So yeah, you're right. Koreans are VERY popular because of their looks basically. These people can easily manipulate ANYONE. K-pop has been blowing up now and days. I'm getting a headache just thinking about 'em.

 

[Chic]

I totally agree with you. Koreans are known to be adorable and "innocent" and what not. Lots of people think all they do is eat strawberry shortcake and play with stuffed animals and watch anime, and be all "cuddly cuddly" 24/7. Um, last time I checked no one in this world is innocent. You have the most adorable kid ever, and that kid can murder another kid. I mean satan can appear as an angel of light but we all know what he REALLY comes to do.

So yeah, you're right. Koreans are VERY popular because of their looks basically. These people can easily manipulate ANYONE. K-pop has been blowing up now and days. I'm getting a headache just thinking about 'em.

I just think there is something very wrong when after watching so many Kdramas, wanting to learn the language suddenly, listening only to Kpop music, and deciding that you want to abruptly move to Korea is a problem, lol. The addiction and obsession is SO real. I don't see it happening nearly as much for any other Asian country tbh, including Japan. Then again I don't follow Japanese related entertainment enough to know.

Now, I like me a good Kdrama just as much as the next person. But I've seen what real Korean men look like and they're not so glamorous! I'll be damned if I travel across the way to meet an oppa. I'll stay my butt right where I am. But people do this and I'm always miffed by it.

 

[Truthteller]

Believe me when I say I literally thought about this just the other day and forgot to bring it up here during the discussion of shipping. I honestly believe this is the case, especially with the maknae line. They may very well not be "gay" in the sense we know it as. But they think they are because of limited access and having started out so young. If they're living together, spending majority of their time together, it's like being in prison. And well...we all know what goes on in prison if inmates aren't allowed conjugal visits. Don't get me wrong, now, I think they have access to whatever may be their preference. At the same time, they may have a propensity to lean more towards same sex if that's what they are used to.

Just saying.

Namjoon was younger than both TH and Jimin when he joined Bigshit. And they never had limited access, they went to school with tons of girls. The idea that they haven’t had access to women these past years after shooting to fame is just very very hard to digest. Jimin
Jimin’s high school friends , includes girls.

Same with V

Needless to say, same with Jk, they showed all these girls at his school. Although he didn’t get the chance to attend as much as V and Jm, but if he was interested he could have grabbed the opportunity. He even had a gf in middle school but said that he had no interest in her. Oh yeah didn’t V say he and Jk would try to touch as many girls as possible as a game predebut? Clearly the girls have been there all along.

 

[Chic]

Namjoon was younger than both TH and Jimin when he joined Bigshit. And they never had limited access, they went to school with tons of girls. The idea that they haven’t had access to women these past years after shotting to fame is just very very hard to digest.

I agree and basically said the same thing in my post. To put it frankly, I highly doubt they were bussin down their classmates when they were younger, lol. NJ might have since he thought he could make a song like Expensive Girl, but that maknae line? I doubt it.

 

[cadiz]

Why is there a baby crib anyway?

no idea....I just saw this tweet long ago and I remembered now that we are discussing this topic.
Because I felt very disturbed when I saw that tweet........as I always do with Jimin and his pedo loving fans

 

[cadiz]

I agree and basically said the same thing in my post. To put it frankly, I highly doubt they were bussin down their classmates when they were younger, lol. NJ might have since he thought he could make a song like Expensive Girl, but that maknae line? I doubt it.

but JK did have rumors with a girl predebut tho
also that video of him and the staff??

And Jimin had a girlfriend predebut too
You can see them holding hands here

so they did have contact with women in the past....whatever their sexuality might be now (after all they did to get here)

 

[Chic]

That was an error on my part. I made assumptions about how much filtering of content they would do based upon the notion that someone who is devout would care more about that stuff. The fault in that is entirely on me. I should have asked about it instead of just assuming. Our values seemed pretty much aligned (except when it came to the media stuff, obviously) and they are nice people so I didn't ask what their policies were. I should have done that. My neighbors across the street are very strict Christians who homeschool and the dad is a dentist so they also don't allow any candy. I always asked if certain shows or movies or snacks were okay before I let their kids watch/eat something. I think even if you think something is no big deal, the parents should get to say if it is okay or not. It is surprising how many parents don't even consider that they might need parent's approval for something.

There has been an academic at Brown recently who was looking into the drastic and sudden rise of transgenderism in kids (especially girls) and she has stated that there appears to be social contagion factor. She called it "rapid-onset gender dysphoria". Of course, that study was pulled after outcry about it. So, no one is free to look at the possibility that this type of glorifying transgenderism may be causing kids to become confused. And the recent push for confirming treatment (and the effort to halt any other types of treatment like therapy or watchful waiting) is going to lead to a lot of kids growing up to be men and women who find themselves (once past the suggestible ages of puberty) with permanent disfiguration and likely sterilization. It is just a sad thing all around.

As for bi-sexuality, it is seen as cool -- just look at Halsey, BTS's "girl". She makes out with a girl in a video, but she sure seems to choose only men for relationships. Or Katie Perry's "I Kissed a Girl" song. I don't even believe that bi-sexuality is a real thing. Unless they are just narcissists who think that sex is only about their pleasure and it doesn't matter who gives it to them as long as they get what they want.

That study would have potentially debunked and refuted the "born this way" argument. Of course they had to put a stop to it.

 

[Chic]

but JK did have rumors with a girl predebut tho
also that video of him and the staff??

And Jimin had a girlfriend predebut too
You can see them holding hands here

so they did have contact with women in the past....whatever their sexuality might be now (after all they did to get here)

I also recall rumors of JK being with an older woman. I recall rumors of JM having a Japanese girlfriend too. Whether they grew up around females is one thing. Who they actually develop healthy relationships with is another. I still believe they have explored with each other; the signs they give off says so.

And this is too much like ship talk, so I will refrain from commenting further about their sexuality since I don't know. I just wanted to say that I thought the same thing @Scars512 did.

Edit: I remember that video as well. He looked like he got caught when he noticed the camera and she got up so quickly, lol.

 

[wow]

theres this rumour back in 2017, the maknae line is flirting with rookie girl groups, and jimin is involved much more than the other 2, he tried to flirt with s0mi, an underage 1O1 member, and tw1ce knows about this because they were friends and one of the member, je0ngy0n, dislikes jimin a lot after that, you can tell in their facial expressions whenever they are put together in a show or awards, je0ngye0n shows the most hate. and also a lot seems to despise the maknae line because they treat girls like that, and theres also rumours that redv3lv3t ir3ne is dating th because he is shown flirting with her back when they werent famous, i guess it was 2014/2015? thats why i think theyre bisexuals, but their alters could be gay tho (or bisexual), and maybe they lean more to men than women, but i doubt they dont want a contact with women since they are open to any types of gender in terms of sexual contacts. and the whole purple thing going on in bts, and how th said purple is the color of love, its obvious he is bisexual since purple = bisexual flag (red+blue=purple).

also, out of all the members, nj and th has the most hints of them being on lgbtq+.

 

[Chic]

theres this rumour back in 2017, the maknae line is flirting with rookie girl groups, and jimin is involved much more than the other 2, he tried to flirt with s0mi, an underage 1O1 member, and tw1ce knows about this because they were friends and one of the member, je0ngy0n, dislikes jimin a lot after that, you can tell in their facial expressions whenever they are put together in a show or awards, je0ngye0n shows the most hate. and also a lot seems to despise the maknae line because they treat girls like that, and theres also rumours that redv3lv3t ir3ne is dating th because he is shown flirting with her back when they werent famous, i guess it was 2014/2015? thats why i think theyre bisexuals, but their alters could be gay tho (or bisexual), and maybe theyre lean more to men than women, but i doubt they dont want a contact with women since they are open to any types of gender. and the whole purple thing going on in bts, and how th said purple is the color of love, its obvious he is bisexual since purple = bisexual flag (red+blue=purple).

also, out of all the members, nj and th has the most hints of them being on lgbtq+.

To add to that there was speculation that the reason for the falling out between TH and JK was over a girl (2015/2016); so there's that. Rumors are just that though: rumors.


"thats why i think theyre bisexuals, but their alters could be gay tho (or bisexual), and maybe theyre lean more to men than women,"

^I think so. And darn it I said I was going to refrain, lol.

 

[Deadlylady]

Very true...and what most confuses me about kpop is the love they have for "cute" stuff
They love when girls and boys act like kids and they feel atraction for it...you see the group Twice? they literally act like children....and thats why they are so popular with korean men

This is a big reason why Jimin is the most popular in Korea too, he likes to act like a child and fangirls love it....this type of things are very popular in Japan too.....Its something about their culture that makes me very disturbed

BTS promotes this too as you see them here telling Jimin to sleep on a crib....but he is 25 years old

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1125828660215201792

This is a joke that he is the shortest and skinny. People his age have babies. A regular guy would of beat up that guy for saying that. We get mad at guys acting like that but I never though I would be missing that lol.






I guess this is new. They were talking about the toys not having genders. But now they are mermaids?

but JK did have rumors with a girl predebut tho
also that video of him and the staff??

And Jimin had a girlfriend predebut too
You can see them holding hands here

so they did have contact with women in the past....whatever their sexuality might be now (after all they did to get here)

Whatever they are doing right now I hope for their sake they stop it and get back in the right path soon. Jamal tends to laugh easily at a lot of things. Which I feel is due to some psychological issues. Its looks like he has an eating disorder and other baggages too. I've seen a lot of videos him acting crazy bending down showing his behind. Sending love with his behind. Trying to kiss hug etc other members since day one. Even for a lot of money there isn't a lot of guys ready to do that stuff.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1138542932485705728

An american host asked them before who will marry first. They were shocked at the question first and then they all said kook for some reason maybe he is the only member that has with somekind of liking toward women.

And the only kpop members I hear getting married at the ones from hiphop style groups for some reason.

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/06/block-bs-u-kwon-says-he-plans-to-marry-girlfriend-of-8-years

 

[Chic]

I realize this isn't the right place to put this here, but I want to share it with you all. They're short clips.

Sorry for derailing.

 

[Shuna]

Super Elle magazine with Sehun, showing just one eye, with the title "The age of influence":

 

[Shuna]

I wonder if, in your opinion, a pure transgender, a woman, would have the character of the man or what society has decided? I am writing an article I have long wanted to write about the physical and psychological difference between the personal, genetic and societal ideas of men and women.

 

[Brea]

Super Elle magazine with Sehun, showing just one eye, with the title "The age of influence":
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"The age of influence"? That sounds like something...something like when you're young, you're under a LOT of influence. Like everyone any age can be influenced by something, but considering these people work for satan, I think "influence" translates to "temptation" because mostly young adults and teenagers go through things- hormone changes, lust, envy...stuff like that.

Sorry I'm not very good at explanations, let alone actually SAYING them

 

[scha]

I just leave this here...

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/06/bts-may-not-perform-as-a-full-group-in-future-world-tours

" Politicians have even suggested that BTS be exempt from military duties due to their success, but that issue is still currently being debated."

Wow.

 

[GreyGreen]

Hello everyone..I see that you are writing about B+s about things that are in common in many groups/celebrities etc...Lets just clear something. I dont wanna *make myself smart* ,but Im gonna tell you few things and after maybe/maybe not will understand this things better. About all those stories about *special royal socitey * with propagand *one eye,Piramids,*worship fallen angel* etc....Just few of them (I mean the people who are *leading the world*) are in that. The rest are just doing copy-paste sistem. Why? Some of them really believe in that sh*+,some of them just wants attention...like if that *popular person* is behaving like that,lets do this too cuz you see its popular and we will be popular too ( maybe that *magic* really works) Some of them are mixed of this two...But ,lets get back too b+s,I have first to give them one BIG They are kings /puppets of manipulations with fans brain... From the beggining they have *original and strong concept* about how they are gonna present themselves in front of the media/fans etc...Small company? Really? From their first mvs you see that their wardrobe is full of Suprem8, ,Gu@@i...babe...c'mon They are coming from wealth company and families...Fooling fans about about how they were poor and had nothing but the love for music only. I can say that some of them are talented. Just few of them. And the rest of the boys are there bcuz they will learn to sing to dance to rap anything just not to be the ordinary guy in sk...You can say they will do ANYTHING just to be famous and to have money. Do you see how much costs their tickets,how much they are *begging* fans to buy their merch??? They only think about money and they will do anything for it. So ofc,they must to do something to convince you to buy buy buy buy...You mean how? They will act all cute,funny,mentioning how much they *love Army* (love armies money ) ,they will bomb you with their reality shows non stop,vlives,* g@y ships* anything that it takes to get money! They will behave in all kind of ways to make you interested in them. Just a very good manipulation. Nothing less nothing/perhaps more..We will talk and spending our time and brain cells how they are possibly into that/into another that. But the main thing is that they will last few years more on stage,later or sooner getting married or coming out as g@y, they will have enough money for the rest of their 7 lifes more open sum restaurants,music company or going to sum acting and for them its gonna be awesome life

 

[Deadlylady]

Astaroth was mentioned in one of bt5's songs,House of cards(in reverse maybe) : lyrics source
"Let us go, Astaroth
Hush you're the one
Let us go I got us"
As you guys might already know,Astaroth (also Ashtaroth, Astarot and Asteroth), in demonology, is the Great Duke of Hell in the first hierarchy with Beelzebub and Lucifer; he is part of the evil trinity. He is a male figure most likely named after the Mesopotamian goddess Ishtar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astaroth
Well,I was watching this former satanist video and he mentions of his group summoning it to go after some old lady.He describes that it appears in some orange-ish smoke and that there was a face,'wolfman',he said and that it spoke to him in a clear voice.It's around 37:30.
And once again at 1:41:50,he speaks about king solomon and astaroth.
Bt5 made that song in 2015,I think and it sounds like they've dabbled with it.

And at 41:00,he speaks of 3 denominations/beliefs in satanism.
1.be a good follower and after death you will be reborn and continue your life.
2.be a good follower and you won't go to hell and suffer.Rather,you will have whatever pleasures you had in the life,a thousand times more.
3.be a good follower and when satan overthrows God,you can reign along with him.
You can see the allure these beliefs have on this people.No wonder they don't hesitate to do what they're asked to.

And from 1:09:51,he explains the various symbols,of course we've already discussed about most of them.But,it's always interesting to hear from someone who dabbled in it,themselves,I think.

All that you will be "reborn" stuff is from satan. So many asians believing in that shit commit suicide, thinking I messed up lets do it again better lol. Nobody will be reborn like 3min3m said "you got one sh0t, one 0pp0rtunity" in this life. After its either eternal hell or paradise. I don't get it sometimes, what do people feel when they see those crazy people worshiping satan? But they still continue with their life "yolo" style

B.I from ik0n left the group.Yg terminated his contract,due to illegal drug scandal.Dispatch broke the news and there was swift action.
He was supposedly talking about taking drugs for life and wanting a discount to buy them in bulk.But,admits he never took any.
Drugs are a serious no-no in sk.

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/06/bi-announces-his-departure-from-ikon-after-illegal-drug-scandal
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/06/yg-entertainment-confirms-bis-contract-has-been-terminated

These comments under the article are interesting:
"Dear God, YG must have offended a witch/ wizard and gotten cursed."
"Right? And every media outlet is in for the witch hunt.
I’m so 100% sure dispatch knows hella lot of crap about so many artists but they just post sth when it’s convenient OR when you just thought all the crap was over, then they slap it right into our faces."
"They pissed someone powerful off cause all their artists' dirty laundry has been exposed within a little over a year."

In this drug scandal context,I would like to remind you guys that I've posted a blind item about the kp0p scene,a month ago which talks about the scandals.
It says that since the sex scandals were poorly dealt with and dragged over months,they've decided to act swiftly about drug scandals.Plan is to publicly humiliate a few boys and get this over with,quickly.
my post explaining the blind and it's link

Yet,I wonder how all the asparagus talk goes over the head of dispatch.
This is systematic take down of other groups even as bt5 is approaching enlistment.
I guess,this is the boss' plan.
Remove all the groups or make sure that most of them get defamed one way or another and then,through contacts with gov and media, spread the narrative that since bt5 are the only successful group since a while,they need to be around to save the face of kp0p especially on international stage.
You can see in the comments that people are talking something on those lines.

"Kpop is cancelled"
"Nah it's karma for downplaying the gods of the universe bts. After druggie yg is gone next will smflop"
"So?? Bts is still winning. People dislike or not your c grade flop favs are still losing. And no one cares abt the existence of dumb peasants like u. Lmao"

Are they planing to form a new group? Maybe that's just cutting expenses. I feel like most of the entertainers actors in the world are doing drugs. So they might be using this against them to control them and can fire any member at any time they want.

 

[Truthteller]

B.I from ik0n left the group.Yg terminated his contract,due to illegal drug scandal.Dispatch broke the news and there was swift action.
He was supposedly talking about taking drugs for life and wanting a discount to buy them in bulk.But,admits he never took any.
Drugs are a serious no-no in sk.

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/06/bi-announces-his-departure-from-ikon-after-illegal-drug-scandal
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/06/yg-entertainment-confirms-bis-contract-has-been-terminated

These comments under the article are interesting:
"Dear God, YG must have offended a witch/ wizard and gotten cursed."
"Right? And every media outlet is in for the witch hunt.
I’m so 100% sure dispatch knows hella lot of crap about so many artists but they just post sth when it’s convenient OR when you just thought all the crap was over, then they slap it right into our faces."
"They pissed someone powerful off cause all their artists' dirty laundry has been exposed within a little over a year."

In this drug scandal context,I would like to remind you guys that I've posted a blind item about the kp0p scene,a month ago which talks about the scandals.
It says that since the sex scandals were poorly dealt with and dragged over months,they've decided to act swiftly about drug scandals.Plan is to publicly humiliate a few boys and get this over with,quickly.
my post explaining the blind and it's link

Yet,I wonder how all the asparagus talk goes over the head of dispatch.
This is systematic take down of other groups even as bt5 is approaching enlistment.
I guess,this is the boss' plan.
Remove all the groups or make sure that most of them get defamed one way or another and then,through contacts with gov and media, spread the narrative that since bt5 are the only successful group since a while,they need to be around to save the face of kp0p especially on international stage.
You can see in the comments that people are talking something on those lines.

"Kpop is cancelled"
"Nah it's karma for downplaying the gods of the universe bts. After druggie yg is gone next will smflop"
"So?? Bts is still winning. People dislike or not your c grade flop favs are still losing. And no one cares abt the existence of dumb peasants like u. Lmao"

They have dirt on everyone, and they recieve regular payments and bribes to stay quiet. It is obvious someone is on a witch hunt after YG, perhaps a coalition to end them. Their artists are not the only ones with scandals, but are getting exposed one after the other. When the Seungri scandal spiraled out of control many other ”respected” names were exposed, showing this is a widespread problem. Yet other agencies have ammunition. Could even be YG itself seeing IKON doesn’t bring profit and preparing a new boy group.

 

[Hopeful]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1134135197212073990

You were right josi when you said this account always hits..

Ik0n B.I