BTS discussion thread

[NotDelulu]

It does seem people have a soft spot for Taehyung.. I am still in the phase of catching up on old bts stuff (the are so much!!!!) But its easily noticable how he is mistreated on one hand and overused on another. They are quick to put on his face everywhere as it brings fans but he really is undergoing bullying from time to time. I joined tweeter a few days ago literally (in my country nobody using it, we are facebook nation over here) and got stunned by the amount of hatred from fans whose idols promote "love yourself" and so called embrace everyone messages. Their pushing into the spotlight by the media probably caused a lot of new fans to jump on the bandwagon because of hype only and you see how disgusting and messy some people are. Even in the concert today, the way the fucking bombarded jk when he tried to reach a fan in wheelchair and then posted videos that they tackled and touched him..
Bighit are definitely promoting ship wars and pushing that narrative. We get jikook content one day following by taekook content the next and they sit back and watch people fight over people who are supposed to be best friends and brothers in real life. When bullying and threats come into equation these shippings stop being cute and harmless.

 

[Hopeful]

It does seem people have a soft spot for Taehyung.. I am still in the phase of catching up on old bts stuff (the are so much!!!!) But its easily noticable how he is mistreated on one hand and overused on another. They are quick to put on his face everywhere as it brings fans but he really is undergoing bullying from time to time. I joined tweeter a few days ago literally (in my country nobody using it, we are facebook nation over here) and got stunned by the amount of hatred from fans whose idols promote "love yourself" and so called embrace everyone messages. Their pushing into the spotlight by the media probably caused a lot of new fans to jump on the bandwagon because of hype only and you see how disgusting and messy some people are. Even in the concert today, the way the fucking bombarded jk when he tried to reach a fan in wheelchair and then posted videos that they tackled and touched him..
Bighit are definitely promoting ship wars and pushing that narrative. We get jikook content one day following by taekook content the next and they sit back and watch people fight over people who are supposed to be best friends and brothers in real life. When bullying and threats come into equation these shippings stop being cute and harmless.

Yes.. It's an agenda to keep people busy with beetees over ships.. And not pay attention to the real problems happening around the world..
Nowadays it's the world of homosexuality.. People openly y EWW to heterosexuals and heterosexuality.. And no one questions them but if you say eww to a homo person.. You get bashed and insulted by everyone.. So yes the artists like sunmi who themselves are heterosexuals have no choice to just pic up the lgbt flags and wrap it around themselves just to keep their fanbase.
What's the point of taking lgbt flags to concerts anyways? Why shove them down other people's throats and even artist's throats..

And regarding V and jk.. And even j1min.. They are all brats tbh.. If k00k was holding j1min then V wasn't coming slow in exposing JK.. How are they going to maintain a healthy friendship this way..?
They are all ready to ruin their careers by pointing at each other.. That's why the Hyung line is better.. No shipping dramas at all.. And those guys have been with each other like for 8 or 9 years now.. For them privacy matters.

 

[Chic]

Good grief, this kid played so many depressing songs during his Vlive! Perhaps the most depressing Vlive I've ever seen. He said he had never felt awkward before, implying that he did since he didn't know what to do and he wanted someone to show up.

I don't know why he was so worried. When it comes down to it, all of their Vlives can be boring when they're alone, lol. All they do is talk about random things, eat, play music, and stare into the camera!

 

[cadiz]

I have not commented for a long time in this thread .Thanks to this thread I had become detached to Bts.However Taehyung’s Vlive drama yesterday made me open Twitter today.It is a warzone there. I have never seen such internal strife and hatred towards a member of a band by a certain group of his own fandom .The infighting and hatred is so vicious towards Taehyung.Why wanting to prove any gay shipping to be true.Bighit is solely to blame .They fuelled taekook and jikook and wanted money by exploiting both the dynamics.Now their own fandom will be the cause of their downfall.People like drama but when it stops being entertaining they move to the next thing.People want to escape from reality and be entertained and not be attacked all the time. All I saw was everyone attacking each other. Bts ship is going to implode and fans will do it themselves. They are not as popular in the general public.Just media and PR push. Powerful people behind them forcing them on the public.Their latest songs are also mediocre. As some of the commentators in the earlier posts have said the dynamics between Taehyung and some other members ( jk , jm) have changed a lot.There is lot of tension.Bighit is trying to curb it and hence the increased fanservice in Paris concert.The fakeness, the forced interactions, the scripted feeling of their content with fake brotherhood has always made me angry .I am a little worried for Taehyung though.I don’t know why.Taehyung reminds me of myself sometimes when I was trying very hard to fit in a toxic work environment and being sidelined..The constant snickering, laughing at his face in the run episodes or even when he is talking, being ignored by the company heads and members but still trying to do the job and carry on .This is bullying and a way to shatter and traumatise one's psyche( Bts are advocates of anti bullying and self love.Such hypocrits)- how long will he be able to sustain it.Bighit has mistreated him for a long time.I felt in Paris concert he was again trying too hard .I wish it comes to an end fast .They have been over exposed .Over saturation can also kill the appeal. Enough of their shitty fake concepts, fake pseudo intellectual vibes . All I see are puppets and clowns dancing and being at the beck and call of their puppet master.It is said that good always prevails and evil cannot sustain forever.Cannot wait to see an end to the shitty and satanic company Bighit .Let their fakeness be exposed and hope that more people start questioning.Sorry for my long rant. Kudos and heartfelt thanks to the commentators here who are doing such a commendable job of exposing them.

I feel like almost all the fandom are Taekook or Jikook shippers...
bighit promoted those two ships because they are the most popular members but now its getting out of hand because the fans are too crazy.....they fight all the time and and they are convinced their ship is real

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if one of them gets caught dating other person (the fandom would implode)

Shipping is a good way to atract fans. One Direction became famous because of the Larry Stylinson ship....but that ship was also the reason why their friendship was completely ruined because the member started to get harrassed and stalked

I see BTS going the same way. All those taekook and Jikook fans are out of control. and they hate Taehyung or Jimin (no in between)

 

[cadiz]

And regarding V and jk.. And even j1min.. They are all brats tbh.. If k00k was holding j1min then V wasn't coming slow in exposing JK.. How are they going to maintain a healthy friendship this way..?
They are all ready to ruin their careers by pointing at each other.. That's why the Hyung line is better.. No shipping dramas at all.. And those guys have been with each other like for 8 or 9 years now.. For them privacy matters.

I think more that romance what we have there is jealousy and competition....for populariity
like you said the older members are smarter.

 

[Truthteller]

I feel like almost all the fandom are Taekook or Jikook shippers...
bighit promoted those two ships because they are the most popular members but now its getting out of hand because the fans are too crazy.....they fight all the time and and they are convinced their ship is real

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if one of them gets caught dating other person (the fandom would implode)

Shipping is a good way to atract fans. One Direction became famous because of the Larry Stylinson ship....but that ship was also the reason why their friendship was completely ruined because the member started to get harrassed and stalked

I see BTS going the same way. All those taekook and Jikook fans are out of control. and they hate Taehyung or Jimin (no in between)

You know Harry Styles is sort of openly gay now, so perhaps fans did notice some kind of attraction between him and the other guy, although they never acted half as gay/suspicious as BTS members. But as the saying goes there is no smoke without fire. I see fans blaming one another for getting invested in ships, because BTS are just ”brothers” which is the most ridiculous thing I have heard. People don’t start shipping for no reason, they aren’t blind. They obviously see things that makes them see two members as a potential couple. Even if the ships are nor real, I would never call certain relationships brotherly, more like friends with benefits. All in all Taehyung said in his Vlive with Hobi that movie Call me By Your Name (the gay movie he was playing on he piano) is his favourite movie and very meaningful. Went on to explain it is about two boys falling in love. 100% testing the waters here. I am pretty sure at this point he is gay. About Jimin I have zero doubt he is a femme queen, pretty sure JK is gay too, especially after this tour. Bottom line: If you know how homos roll, relationships are seldom platonic, even between so called ”friends”. I mean there is a reason they make up 60% of HIV cases.

 

[cadiz]

You know Harry Styles is sort of openly gay now, so perhaps fans did notice some kind of attraction between him and the other guy, although they never acted half as gay/suspicious as BTS members. But as the saying goes there is no smoke without fire. I see fans blaming one another for getting invested in ships, because BTS are just ”brothers” which is the most ridiculous thing I have heard. People don’t start shipping for no reason, they aren’t blind. They obviously see things that makes them see two members as a potential couple. Even if the ships are nor real, I would never call certain relationships brotherly, more like friends with benefits. All in all Taehyung said in his Vlive with Hobi that movie Call me By Your Name (the gay movie he was playing on he piano) is his favourite movie and very meaningful. Went on to explain it is about two boys falling in love. 100% testing the waters here. I am pretty sure at this point he is gay. About Jimin I have zero doubt he is a femme queen, pretty sure JK is gay too, especially after this tour. Bottom line: If you know how homos roll, relationships are seldom platonic, even between so called ”friends”. I mean there is a reason they make up 60% of HIV cases.

I have no doubt most of them are gay bi whatever....being in that industry you have to be up for anything

But the problem is when fans get too obsessed with the ships, thats what happened with One Direction when Louis got a girl pregnant and the Larry shippers didnt want to accept that so they went to the doctors office and got the birth certificate of the baby.....they started sending death threats to the mother of the baby saying it was fake etc...

BTS shippers are going into that crazy direction.....wishing death in other members just becuse they ruin their ship....and who knows what is the limit for those crazies??
Every kpop group has a popular ship, but the levels of obsession are different.

 

[NotDelulu]

You know Harry Styles is sort of openly gay now, so perhaps fans did notice some kind of attraction between him and the other guy, although they never acted half as gay/suspicious as BTS members. But as the saying goes there is no smoke without fire. I see fans blaming one another for getting invested in ships, because BTS are just ”brothers” which is the most ridiculous thing I have heard. People don’t start shipping for no reason, they aren’t blind. They obviously see things that makes them see two members as a potential couple. Even if the ships are nor real, I would never call certain relationships brotherly, more like friends with benefits. All in all Taehyung said in his Vlive with Hobi that movie Call me By Your Name (the gay movie he was playing on he piano) is his favourite movie and very meaningful. Went on to explain it is about two boys falling in love. 100% testing the waters here. I am pretty sure at this point he is gay. About Jimin I have zero doubt he is a femme queen, pretty sure JK is gay too, especially after this tour. Bottom line: If you know how homos roll, relationships are seldom platonic, even between so called ”friends”. I mean there is a reason they make up 60% of HIV cases.

When I first stumbled upon bts videos one of the very first suggestion you get is taekook or jikook analysis videos. And it makes you take a double look. Especially for us westerns (I don't know about kculture, apparently you can act mega gay including kissing on stage as long as you're not openly gay in real life its acceptable and endearing ). So I got to watch a lot of those during my falling into a rabbit hole (I got a lot of sleepless nights and the content filled them up). Especially during 2015-2017 you can clearly see a lot of tension between tae and jk, on and off cameras, I mean I doubt they are such good of an actors, jk clearly isnt and the way he was looking and clinging to tae is anything but brotherly. I don't know if any of them acted on their lust, became a couple or whatnot, but you could see it brought tension to the group especially to the maknae line. I think it was you who said jm usually sticks to jk side and hyungs support tae, there are videos where it's very obvious. Today, 2019, I think they are past this stage but bh is still wanting to milk it.
It is clear some of the members dont do any sexual fanservice or mostly none (like Jin) while Jm is told to fanservice with everyone.

Tae is gay almost 100%. He gave out so many hints about it especially recently but ever since stigma he has been hinting that. A lot of his playlist recommendations and movie recommendations are LGBT related, is he only a loud supporter of the community? Doubt it. Also I think that's one of the reason his relationship with his family is shaky. I got a feeling only his grandma accepted him. I may go too deep into this again. About jm, even though he APPEARS to be gay I think he dates women too, jk also i think but who knows. They sure are doing a great service normalizing gay behavior just like the elite wants. And fans do notice the LGBT flags as backgrounds in their videos and consider them ambassadors for the LGBT community


Btw in today's live tae casually mentioned jk again.. said they used to work out but not anymore.. another hint for the fans?

 

[wow]

Guys,I just remembered that I made a post on the 'insider' that came in the beginning of kp0p thread and how they could be a disinfo agent of bigshit sent to spread misinformation.Check it out for some conspiracy points.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/because-jonghyun-deserved-better.3858/page-8#post-208431

Also,it would be great if you zero in on the 'culprit' based on the hints in that post and your kp0p knowledge.Of course,it's just a theory.

i also found it weird how everytime someone in this thread mentions to leave, or if the thread has died down a little, new people came and said things like "please dont let it die down, this thread helped me" and then after that, theyre gone, they dont make any posts, maybe one or two, but it just felt "off", i feel like they(insiders) want us to keep digging and digging, i always wonder why, what can they receive from us from digging the truth? i still believe insiders are here guys, keep your eyes out, it could be one of us(active members) because i remember in the older thread someone that was a former cult member mentions how insiders are here and then they became inactive after that, and also l0ve4lu!cy said that some of her people(insiders) are watching this thread, and also how me and my friends exposed this "shy" girl who is kind of an insider(?) i still dont know about her true stories but i found it really weird how she came in this thread, asked us to join a twitter group to expose bt$ on youtuve, and then said to one of us that "the insiders are coming for her" and then she changed her profile picture here and became this "new person", its just weird. im not asking you to have rivalry on the members here, im asking you to keep your eyes out, insiders are here, know what you say, think before posting, and dont trust the members so easily, i have learned that, after that incident with me and my friends, i have trust issues and i cant trust people anymore, not everything people say here is true, and even if people claim to be "insiders" they might be a troll or they(bigshit agent) want us to believe the rumours theyre trying spread are true, the "insiders" that i mentioned could also be one of that, but its not wrong to stay vigilant right?

 

[wow]

i do think what th said in his vlive is a publicity stunt, you have to know how the vlives are monitored by their handlers too, and how the handlers are behind their cameras all this time, theyre not free guys, and they never will, they have to play an act everytime the camera is on, what kind of dumb company that wont monitor a famous guy on live? its a vlive, not a btsbomb or bts run episode, they cant edit the video, they cant erase what they said, so of course, it has to be scripted, they cant let them say what they want, if they arent monitored or putting an act or their alters arent on, they couldve been crying for help on live long time ago, and please, dont even bother doing a shipping analysis and care about how the members are in terms of relationships, theyre nothing but co workers, they were friends before but now their friendship just kind of faded away and even if the vlive isnt even monitored by their handlers, i think th is being a dramatic and jealous b*tch, trying to play the victim and whines on vlive about how he is sad about jikook's friendship is soooooo annoying to me, he wants armys to hate on jikook's relationship because he knows how famous he is and i hate how he always acts all sad and miserable on vlives, he wants people to feel sad about him and feel empathy, its weird how he also wears a kaballah on that vlive, he seriously never done a happy, casual, and normal vlive, like the others, everytime he is on vlive, he has to act all sad and dark, i feel like he is playing with armys' feelings, and after how he said that jk doesnt let jm hangs out with him and he pulls off a bitter "smile" i dont think thats a bitter smile, its a smirk, he knows what the camera and public does to him, he wants armys to have a war, he wants them to defend him so he acts all sad about it, if he doesnt say shit about jikook's relationship or if he isnt jealous and petty of their relationship, things will go out well with the three of them, but instead, he wants drama "i want to be manly" yet he cant accept the fact that his best friend hangs out with someone who isnt him, and seriously, wtf is wrong with that? he is so fucking childish about this whole drama that he created because of his jealousy, and not to mention how fragile his ego is, he wants jm/jk all to himself? and is petty if they hung out together without him? i mean, its pretty obvious how they dont like him because of his unhealthy personality, i believe he has mental problems. i dont know about you but i dont see any "genuineness" around him, he is as fake as the others, always putting an act, and dont forget to mention how he is the best actor out of all the other members, what a drama king smh, and also people here said that he is "humble", while he is out here flashing out gucci and accessories, theres nothing humble in that. while you guys are out here having a soft spot for him, im here having a logical explanation and opinions about him. im an INTP so i dont like to have opinions based on my feelings(heart), i like to have it based on my thinking(brain).

 

[Hopeful]

There's a rumor about tae.. And i still don know what it is.. But the fans are panicking..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137744539467374592

 

[cadiz]

i do think what th said in his vlive is a publicity stunt, you have to know how the vlives are monitored by their handlers too, and how the handlers are behind their cameras all this time, theyre not free guys, and they never will, they have to play an act everytime the camera is on, what kind of dumb company that wont monitor a famous guy on live? its a vlive, not a btsbomb or bts run episode, they cant edit the video, they cant erase what they said, so of course, it has to be scripted, they cant let them say what they want, if they arent monitored or putting an act or their alters arent on, they couldve been crying for help on live long time ago, and please, dont even bother doing a shipping analysis and care about how the members are in terms of relationships, theyre nothing but co workers, they were friends before but now their friendship just kind of faded away and even if the vlive isnt even monitored by their handlers, i think th is being a dramatic and jealous b*tch, trying to play the victim and whines on vlive about how he is sad about jikook's friendship is soooooo annoying to me, he wants armys to hate on jikook's relationship because he knows how famous he is and i hate how he always acts all sad and miserable on vlives, he wants people to feel sad about him and feel empathy, its weird how he also wears a kaballah on that vlive, he seriously never done a happy, casual, and normal vlive, like the others, everytime he is on vlive, he has to act all sad and dark, i feel like he is playing with armys' feelings, and after how he said that jk doesnt let jm hangs out with him and he pulls off a bitter "smile" i dont think thats a bitter smile, its a smirk, he knows what the camera and public does to him, he wants armys to have a war, he wants them to defend him so he acts all sad about it, if he doesnt say shit about jikook's relationship or if he isnt jealous and petty of their relationship, things will go out well with the three of them, but instead, he wants drama "i want to be manly" yet he cant accept the fact that his best friend hangs out with someone who isnt him, and seriously, wtf is wrong with that? he is so fucking childish about this whole drama that he created because of his jealousy, and not to mention how fragile his ego is, he wants jm/jk all to himself? and is petty if they hung out together without him? i mean, its pretty obvious how they dont like him because of his unhealthy personality, i believe he has mental problems. i dont know about you but i dont see any "genuineness" around him, he is as fake as the others, always putting an act, and dont forget to mention how he is the best actor out of all the other members, what a drama king smh, and also people here said that he is "humble", while he is out here flashing out gucci and accessories, theres nothing humble in that. while you guys are out here having a soft spot for him, im here having a logical explanation and opinions about him. im an INTP so i dont like to have opinions based on my feelings(heart), i like to have it based on my thinking(brain).

its true most content is scripted as we know but with V there are some times when he tries to break "free"
For example there was one Vlive where he order the staff to give him the camera and he basically forced them to leave so he can be alone (minutes later Jimin was sent to watch on him)...

I think what he said about JK and Jimin was on purposse.....like you say he was fighting a smile when he said it....but it was a good thing because most fans were in denial about manknae line tense relationship ....I remember me and @ShiningCarat14 talking about this months ago...during the end year awards and nobody really believed it.
But now its all out there....and BH trying to make damage control

 

[ShiningCarat14]

There's a rumor about tae.. And i still don know what it is.. But the fans are panicking..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137744539467374592

 

[Hopeful]

There's a rumor about tae.. And i still don know what it is.. But the fans are panicking..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137744539467374592

Ok army is good at hiding stuff.. First it was being said to be a dating rumor leaked by some sasaeng on insta.. And now they're all just saying that it's just the knetz bashing tae over liking that agy movie and they're being homophobic and stuff.. But it doesn't feel that simple..
Anyways rumors do spread only after if there is a bit of truth to it.

 

[Hopeful]

This will be a big blow to beetees if this happens.. And no wonder jik00k stay together.. Even if it's for the fanservice or brotherhood.. Those 2 are safe this way.. V is going to get in trouble more likely this way and maybe just maybe he knows about this scandal between him and a girl and that is why he is showing more interests in gay songs and movies? Trying to clear his name in a lame try?

 

[wow]

ooh whats this? i sense a scandal coming, and it will be the downfall of bts and bishit, i CAN FEEL IT im so happy

 

[cadiz]

2020?? what they freaking out about a dating scandal for 2020?? lol must be something else....or they are just bored

 

[Hopeful]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137482722715328519

They're the least interested in that voting thing and by they way they know who will be doing the voting.. Not them.. But.. B4ng pd

I like how H0bi said i don't listen to Lauv guy

 

[ShiningCarat14]

I really want a scandal
People need to realise Bighit aren’t as clean as they make out to be
But I don’t wish for any of the members to be impacted negatively i want the company to suffer not them
I just hope Taehyung leaves now
It’s the best decision for everyone

 

[wow]

This will be a big blow to beetees if this happens.. And no wonder jik00k stay together.. Even if it's for the fanservice or brotherhood.. Those 2 are safe this way.. V is going to get in trouble more likely this way and maybe just maybe he knows about this scandal between him and a girl and that is why he is showing more interests in gay songs and movies? Trying to clear his name in a lame try?

no i dont think he is with a girl, that bts x bp shipping is nonesense, those armys are not insiders, they dont know the real shit going on behind the scenes, but i think it will be a gay scandal and im super excited for the tea