BTS discussion thread

[cadiz]

Why do I feel like he was throwing shade at Jimin and Jungkook, mostly Jk? Like ”I want Jimin to come but Jk won’t let him. I think those two are hanging out right now. ” Why is JK so shady? And he seemed sad and lonely in his vlive. The member he was most fond of was Jhope. As I said I haven’t got bully vibes from Jhope. Also talked fondly of Suga. Jimin and JK have been together all the time lately... TH is so relatable and raw though, i think that is why he is one of the most popular members aside from looks. He comes across as less fake than others, but doesnt say anything explicitly, but his whole mood and actions reveals how he is feeling. He was like yeah I am alone in my room, on tour what do you expect me to do?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137297990853390336

oh the way he said it....lol.....no wonder the jikook shippers are going crazy
anyways....his fans are finally waking up

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137275389334773762

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137283411066970112

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137286225524604930

Im sure BH will be doing some damage control soon because this is not good. They are probably going to go all out with the fanservice next concert to show their "perfect bond" is intact

 

[Deadlylady]

Something has happened between kook and th. Who knows? Looks like he is mad at him for some reason.

That red string though.







In those live videos he thinks and talks way more slowly. The music he played was slow, break up/depression vibes songs. The complete opposite of his "persona" on camera. And people think he is happy when he do that aegyo. This dude show signs of depression. Filming this video was forced I feel like. He says this song makes him feel better.

"lyrics: I know you think I got it all figured out but cus I walk around like my head’s in the clouds but I’m just boy with his heart pourin' out of his head I wish that you could see the pain that I’ve seen and all of the time I spent being not me and I hope you know it’s not always happy in my head cus I don't know the perfect road to go down but I know I'm trying my best I'm trying my best to be okay I'm trying my best but every day it's so hard and I'm holding my breath I'm holding my breath til I can say all of the words I want to say from my heart if you really want to I could let you inside it’s been so long and I’ve got nothing left to hide would you believe if I told you that I’ve got flaws now it’s time to let the curtains unfold and tell the stories that I didn’t want told yeah let it out and I unburden my soul won't stop cus I don't know the perfect road to go down but I know."

Then at the end he's acting weird and try to cheer himself up. Then ends up on his bed acting weird like his bae is watching him or something. This was not done for the fans. I guess they broke up and that's why he is depressed. At least that's how it looks like.

 

[Shuna]

Symbols of the moon and sacrifices (site in French):
www.cosmovisions.com/$Lune.htm

V_an of BT_21 and M_ama of E_XO represent the goddess of the moon.

 

[NotDelulu]

Who said damage control?
First let's bring back moments from 2017 so fans can breathe

http://instagr.am/p/BydCzdtjM7Y/

Then and I had zero doubts
Lets go all out in boy with luv today
http://instagr.am/p/BydcBG_ICgq/
And that's not all! Order today get more jm moments with others too
http://instagr.am/p/BydchHEjw28/
That's a LOT of fanservice. Will it change people minds? Let's see

 

[Truthteller]

Something has happened between kook and th. Maybe someone cheated or they had a break up, who cares? Looks like he is mad at him for some reason.

That red string though.

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In those live videos he thinks and talks way more slowly. The music he played was slow, break up/depression vibes songs. The complete opposite of his "persona" on camera. And people think he is happy when he do that aegyo. This dude show signs of depression. Filming this video was forced I feel like. He says this song makes him feel better.

"lyrics: I know you think I got it all figured out but cus I walk around like my head’s in the clouds but I’m just boy with his heart pourin' out of his head I wish that you could see the pain that I’ve seen and all of the time I spent being not me and I hope you know it’s not always happy in my head cus I don't know the perfect road to go down but I know I'm trying my best I'm trying my best to be okay I'm trying my best but every day it's so hard and I'm holding my breath I'm holding my breath til I can say all of the words I want to say from my heart if you really want to I could let you inside it’s been so long and I’ve got nothing left to hide would you believe if I told you that I’ve got flaws now it’s time to let the curtains unfold and tell the stories that I didn’t want told yeah let it out and I unburden my soul won't stop cus I don't know the perfect road to go down but I know."

Then at the end he's acting weird and try to cheer himself up. Then ends up on his bed acting weird like his bae is watching him or something. This was not done for the fans. I guess they broke up and that's why he is depressed. At least that's how it looks like.

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I think they had a fight, cause not only did they not have ”fan service”, they were straight up ignoring one another during most the concert. Like whenever TH wad having a moment with others Jk would stay away and vice versa, although I did see JK glare at Taejin fanservice from afar. It is not the first time he has interrupted or glared Taejin’s fan service moment. Why does he care?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137243436354920448

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1132438681351069696

 

[Deadlylady]

Who said damage control?
First let's bring back moments from 2017 so fans can breathe

http://instagr.am/p/BydCzdtjM7Y/

Then and I had zero doubts
Lets go all out in boy with luv today
http://instagr.am/p/BydcBG_ICgq/
And that's not all! Order today get more jm moments with others too
http://instagr.am/p/BydchHEjw28/
That's a LOT of fanservice. Will it change people minds? Let's see

Lol so funny. So even if they hate each other they are acting like that. Just like clowns put on make up and smile. Cuz the show must go on right?

I think they had a fight, cause not only did they not have ”fan service”, they were straight up ignoring one another during most the concert. Like whenever TH wad having a moment with others Jk would stay away and vice versa, although I did see JK glare at Taejin fanservice from afar. It is not the first time he has interrupted or glared Taejin’s fan service moment. Why does he care?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137243436354920448

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1132438681351069696

The flower th gave him he later gave it to jamal.

https://twitter.com/xMina1982/status/1137435723446050816

But on the other hand they did force that fan service since this was their last concert abroad for now.

 

[NotDelulu]

Lol so funny. So even if they hate each other they are acting like that. Just like clowns put on make up and smile. Cuz the show must go on right?

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The flower th gave him he later gave it to jamal.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137435723446050816

But on the other hand they did force that fan service since this was their last concert abroad for now.

So.. tae didnt hug jm like always does.. him

http://instagr.am/p/BydbbzThoD0/

And yes, on London day2 th and jk were straight up ignoring each other. After their forced bwl moment there were like zero interactions. But bh told them to do better today, I believe more moments to come.
Lol feels like were watching a drama. But hey they know that's what people look for

 

[Truthteller]

So.. tae didnt hug jm like always does.. him

http://instagr.am/p/BydbbzThoD0/

And yes, on London day2 th and jk were straight up ignoring each other. After their forced bwl moment there were like zero interactions. But bh told them to do better today, I believe more moments to come.
Lol feels like were watching a drama. But hey they know that's what people look for

It was even worse on the Paris concert. They even refused to hold hands which is something they have consistently done at concerts and award shows.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137167112567447552

Also this is not the first time TH has come to vlive when he feels lonely. Let me bring this moment back from 2015 where he once again complained about Jk and Jm leaving him out and got teary eyed, I saw the video long time ago but can’t find it. Let me tell you that late 2015 was when Jk and TH had a huge fight that lasted a for good while, and this was supposedly all before they got together (if they allegedly even were/are together at any point). I feel like whenever he and Jk have a fight, JM takes JK side and the hyungs have THs side, especially Jin and Yoongi. Just my speculation though.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137180912523911169

 

[cadiz]

The flower th gave him he later gave it to jamal.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137435723446050816

But on the other hand they did force that fan service since this was their last concert abroad for now.

lol so Taehyung gave him a rose and then JK went and gave that rose to Jimin??...
And during that hug it looks like Taehyung goes to hug him (dance?) and Jk looks very stiff...body laguage not good

they are really forced to do that fanservice and pretend to love eachother....its just a big circus

 

[Truthteller]

Although Vmin seem to be on good terms, body language doesn’t lie.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137461861996290048

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137454989473923074

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137276559591714816

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137095650544427009

 

[cadiz]

Although Vmin seem to be on good terms, body language doesn’t lie.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137461861996290048

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137454989473923074

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137276559591714816

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1137095650544427009

but yesterday he was too bussy with Jungkook to visit his "soulmate" V for a few seconds.
I knew they were going to go all out with the fanservice so its not surprising....they are very predictable at this point

 

[Hopeful]

2 vlives in a row..
I knew H0bi was going to make it up to V for not being able to come to his vlive yesterday.. Because h0pe was drained last night..people were talking on twitter about how h0b1 looked down and tired during day1 of Paris.. He needed sleep or rest whatever..
I thought he would take him out on a dinner and that really did happen..There was dinner plus a vlive.
It must be tough being jh0pe in that group.
That guy literally knows how to maintain balance between maknae line. He takes j1min shopping.. K00k on dinners and V on lunches and shopping except that V doesn't take pictures with him.. Whenever you see h0b1 posing alone in pictures in his tweets.. That is when Ta3hyung is with him.
H0b1 wasn't joking when he said in burn the stage.. That he is the bridge between the Hyungs and maknaes. No wonder they brought him back.. Beetees most probably wouldn't have survived till today without him.

 

[Ri12345]

I have not commented for a long time in this thread .Thanks to this thread I had become detached to Bts.However Taehyung’s Vlive drama yesterday made me open Twitter today.It is a warzone there. I have never seen such internal strife and hatred towards a member of a band by a certain group of his own fandom .The infighting and hatred is so vicious towards Taehyung.Why wanting to prove any gay shipping to be true.Bighit is solely to blame .They fuelled taekook and jikook and wanted money by exploiting both the dynamics.Now their own fandom will be the cause of their downfall.People like drama but when it stops being entertaining they move to the next thing.People want to escape from reality and be entertained and not be attacked all the time. All I saw was everyone attacking each other. Bts ship is going to implode and fans will do it themselves. They are not as popular in the general public.Just media and PR push. Powerful people behind them forcing them on the public.Their latest songs are also mediocre. As some of the commentators in the earlier posts have said the dynamics between Taehyung and some other members ( jk , jm) have changed a lot.There is lot of tension.Bighit is trying to curb it and hence the increased fanservice in Paris concert.The fakeness, the forced interactions, the scripted feeling of their content with fake brotherhood has always made me angry .I am a little worried for Taehyung though.I don’t know why.Taehyung reminds me of myself sometimes when I was trying very hard to fit in a toxic work environment and being sidelined..The constant snickering, laughing at his face in the run episodes or even when he is talking, being ignored by the company heads and members but still trying to do the job and carry on .This is bullying and a way to shatter and traumatise one's psyche( Bts are advocates of anti bullying and self love.Such hypocrits)- how long will he be able to sustain it.Bighit has mistreated him for a long time.I felt in Paris concert he was again trying too hard .I wish it comes to an end fast .They have been over exposed .Over saturation can also kill the appeal. Enough of their shitty fake concepts, fake pseudo intellectual vibes . All I see are puppets and clowns dancing and being at the beck and call of their puppet master.It is said that good always prevails and evil cannot sustain forever.Cannot wait to see an end to the shitty and satanic company Bighit .Let their fakeness be exposed and hope that more people start questioning.Sorry for my long rant. Kudos and heartfelt thanks to the commentators here who are doing such a commendable job of exposing them.

 

[Cottoncandy]

Well, it seems like the only thing that brings me back here is Tae, like last October and now again. I don’t keep up with what’s going on anymore(and as I checked the last few pages it’s a lot lol) but they still pop up on my insta occasionally. Haven’t seen the vlive either but as I’ve picked it up from here it’s bad. He has issues. Everyone with a pair of eyes can see that he’s depressed. I just hope he’ll get out before it’s too late. Jesus is coming soon.

 

[Sugar23_]

Good grief, again?? I can't imagine it being because they are overwhelmed by the love they receive. They should be used to performing in front of thousands of their fans by now. What could it be? Is it really all an act?

I agree I’ve been thinking how it seems to be happening almost every show that one of the members are balling there eyes out. You’d think they’d atleast save the theatrics for moments that really count, but I guess it doesn’t matter when you have @rmy soaking up every tear and showering them with support because of it. Smh the relationship between army and b*t*s is so unhealthy it’s getting ridiculous at this point.

 

[NotDelulu]

It does seem people have a soft spot for Taehyung.. I am still in the phase of catching up on old bts stuff (the are so much!!!!) But its easily noticable how he is mistreated on one hand and overused on another. They are quick to put on his face everywhere as it brings fans but he really is undergoing bullying from time to time. I joined tweeter a few days ago literally (in my country nobody using it, we are facebook nation over here) and got stunned by the amount of hatred from fans whose idols promote "love yourself" and so called embrace everyone messages. Their pushing into the spotlight by the media probably caused a lot of new fans to jump on the bandwagon because of hype only and you see how disgusting and messy some people are. Even in the concert today, the way the fucking bombarded jk when he tried to reach a fan in wheelchair and then posted videos that they tackled and touched him..
Bighit are definitely promoting ship wars and pushing that narrative. We get jikook content one day following by taekook content the next and they sit back and watch people fight over people who are supposed to be best friends and brothers in real life. When bullying and threats come into equation these shippings stop being cute and harmless.

 

[Hopeful]

It does seem people have a soft spot for Taehyung.. I am still in the phase of catching up on old bts stuff (the are so much!!!!) But its easily noticable how he is mistreated on one hand and overused on another. They are quick to put on his face everywhere as it brings fans but he really is undergoing bullying from time to time. I joined tweeter a few days ago literally (in my country nobody using it, we are facebook nation over here) and got stunned by the amount of hatred from fans whose idols promote "love yourself" and so called embrace everyone messages. Their pushing into the spotlight by the media probably caused a lot of new fans to jump on the bandwagon because of hype only and you see how disgusting and messy some people are. Even in the concert today, the way the fucking bombarded jk when he tried to reach a fan in wheelchair and then posted videos that they tackled and touched him..
Bighit are definitely promoting ship wars and pushing that narrative. We get jikook content one day following by taekook content the next and they sit back and watch people fight over people who are supposed to be best friends and brothers in real life. When bullying and threats come into equation these shippings stop being cute and harmless.

Yes.. It's an agenda to keep people busy with beetees over ships.. And not pay attention to the real problems happening around the world..
Nowadays it's the world of homosexuality.. People openly y EWW to heterosexuals and heterosexuality.. And no one questions them but if you say eww to a homo person.. You get bashed and insulted by everyone.. So yes the artists like sunmi who themselves are heterosexuals have no choice to just pic up the lgbt flags and wrap it around themselves just to keep their fanbase.
What's the point of taking lgbt flags to concerts anyways? Why shove them down other people's throats and even artist's throats..

And regarding V and jk.. And even j1min.. They are all brats tbh.. If k00k was holding j1min then V wasn't coming slow in exposing JK.. How are they going to maintain a healthy friendship this way..?
They are all ready to ruin their careers by pointing at each other.. That's why the Hyung line is better.. No shipping dramas at all.. And those guys have been with each other like for 8 or 9 years now.. For them privacy matters.

 

[Chic]

Good grief, this kid played so many depressing songs during his Vlive! Perhaps the most depressing Vlive I've ever seen. He said he had never felt awkward before, implying that he did since he didn't know what to do and he wanted someone to show up.

I don't know why he was so worried. When it comes down to it, all of their Vlives can be boring when they're alone, lol. All they do is talk about random things, eat, play music, and stare into the camera!

 

[cadiz]

I have not commented for a long time in this thread .Thanks to this thread I had become detached to Bts.However Taehyung’s Vlive drama yesterday made me open Twitter today.It is a warzone there. I have never seen such internal strife and hatred towards a member of a band by a certain group of his own fandom .The infighting and hatred is so vicious towards Taehyung.Why wanting to prove any gay shipping to be true.Bighit is solely to blame .They fuelled taekook and jikook and wanted money by exploiting both the dynamics.Now their own fandom will be the cause of their downfall.People like drama but when it stops being entertaining they move to the next thing.People want to escape from reality and be entertained and not be attacked all the time. All I saw was everyone attacking each other. Bts ship is going to implode and fans will do it themselves. They are not as popular in the general public.Just media and PR push. Powerful people behind them forcing them on the public.Their latest songs are also mediocre. As some of the commentators in the earlier posts have said the dynamics between Taehyung and some other members ( jk , jm) have changed a lot.There is lot of tension.Bighit is trying to curb it and hence the increased fanservice in Paris concert.The fakeness, the forced interactions, the scripted feeling of their content with fake brotherhood has always made me angry .I am a little worried for Taehyung though.I don’t know why.Taehyung reminds me of myself sometimes when I was trying very hard to fit in a toxic work environment and being sidelined..The constant snickering, laughing at his face in the run episodes or even when he is talking, being ignored by the company heads and members but still trying to do the job and carry on .This is bullying and a way to shatter and traumatise one's psyche( Bts are advocates of anti bullying and self love.Such hypocrits)- how long will he be able to sustain it.Bighit has mistreated him for a long time.I felt in Paris concert he was again trying too hard .I wish it comes to an end fast .They have been over exposed .Over saturation can also kill the appeal. Enough of their shitty fake concepts, fake pseudo intellectual vibes . All I see are puppets and clowns dancing and being at the beck and call of their puppet master.It is said that good always prevails and evil cannot sustain forever.Cannot wait to see an end to the shitty and satanic company Bighit .Let their fakeness be exposed and hope that more people start questioning.Sorry for my long rant. Kudos and heartfelt thanks to the commentators here who are doing such a commendable job of exposing them.

I feel like almost all the fandom are Taekook or Jikook shippers...
bighit promoted those two ships because they are the most popular members but now its getting out of hand because the fans are too crazy.....they fight all the time and and they are convinced their ship is real

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if one of them gets caught dating other person (the fandom would implode)

Shipping is a good way to atract fans. One Direction became famous because of the Larry Stylinson ship....but that ship was also the reason why their friendship was completely ruined because the member started to get harrassed and stalked

I see BTS going the same way. All those taekook and Jikook fans are out of control. and they hate Taehyung or Jimin (no in between)

 

[cadiz]

And regarding V and jk.. And even j1min.. They are all brats tbh.. If k00k was holding j1min then V wasn't coming slow in exposing JK.. How are they going to maintain a healthy friendship this way..?
They are all ready to ruin their careers by pointing at each other.. That's why the Hyung line is better.. No shipping dramas at all.. And those guys have been with each other like for 8 or 9 years now.. For them privacy matters.

I think more that romance what we have there is jealousy and competition....for populariity
like you said the older members are smarter.