Catholics i know believe Jesus died for their sins, Mary and saints are additional help in various situations. Core of their faith is right including concept of salvation, but there are a lot of false and weird non essential beliefs attached. Which doesn't rob them of their salvation as i understand it. Perfection (especially in beliefs) isn't something required from us...
In 2 Corinthians, Paul asks the Corinthians to test themselves to see if they are in the faith. Saying that Jesus Christ is in you unless you fail the test. Or this verse in Galatians..
If you not having Christ as your goal and motivation 24/7 in everything you do, you have other Gods, and we all are guilty of that sometimes...It's a sin as any other(lesser for those who sin unknowingly ). Divination of Mary is serious problem, but not salvation related. I know some christians who are only christians by name and are concerned only with their carnal lives. And i know some catholics who are almost perfect believers , sacrificing to God literally their every action and thought. Denomination name doesn't point out or entitles us to anything.
You don’t think that having Mary before Jesus is not salvation related? How can you be saved if you think that you need Mary to help save you and that Jesus wasn’t enough? That totally goes against scripture that says that Jesus was the once for all sacrifice for sins. It’s a different gospel vytas.
Catholics are of course Christians.
The day is much later than most think.
O dear dude...you realize that by setting a date...its not true?
But dear Dudette... Daniel 9 actually sets a date until the Messiah and the end of the age.
Everyone is deceived even the elect if it was possible.
No, I think you’re wrong in your estimation, sorry.
And who exactly are you to think i'm wrong ?
If you can't live righteously... your belief won't save you.
Mary is not before Jesus. Neither i said that neither catholics believe it..
I’ve heard she is co-redemptrix in the catholic church. I did go to a church that was started by ex catholics they don’t believe that catholicsm is Christianity. They couldn’t stay in it and follow Jesus. I think that’s true. I think you can be saved while being a catholic, happened to my brother, but in the end, you have to leave it, its a different gospel.
I’m Lisa, and I think you are wrong in what you’re saying. How can you be right when you won’t see what Jesus said with His own words because it doesn’t line up with what you believe?
Everyone is deceived in one way or the other.
It is as i say... every time you find yourselves in a disagreement with me... you are wrong and i am right... so better get used to it.
If you don't understand that life on earth is about righteous living then you are an unstable person as Peter warned about in 2 Peter 3:16.
Very few truly understands salvation today.
You are one of the ones that doesn’t understand.
Neither does anyone who thinks they can lose their salvation.
Yes I still believe that Jesus is the once for all sacrifice for sin. All I know, Thunderian is that if the Bible didn’t have passages saying that people will fall away from the faith I wouldn’t think people could, so because it does I do.
It was God's plan all along to be punished and spill His own blood... so as to remove sins from sinners who repent.
This is absolute truth.
You are mistakenly equating believing bad doctrine with losing salvation. If the "faith" we fall away from is our salvation, there is no hope for any of us. As @TokiEl said, we are all deceived in one way or another.