Notre Dame Cathedral Fire

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Who do you suppose is behind all this, and what's the goal?
I haven't taken it that far in my mind's eye yet. But tearing down something with religious history and rebuilding it to their liking comes to mind. Using this tragedy to divide and split the current tension in France is a possibility as well. I mean, while fires happen, they seldom do in such a major manner which shows a serious lack of preparedness to put one out at an iconic site and that raises a flag to me. So, nothing solid yet, just a hunch there is more to this than meets the eye at this time.

Here is a video talking about all the attacks on Christian sites in France in the last month alone. And there is talk of yellow vest protests and Macron. https://www.bitchute.com/video/-zeyA2sdDq0/
 
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Oh really? Let me just quote you once more. This is you with your ruffled feathers not trying to be provocative at all....

"I was in the same building as your boy Obama last night and saw cherry blossoms blooming today. You have no idea who you are talking with so back under the bridge you go. Some of us live"

DR responded to this particular post before you accused her of "Not being any more objective than you"

We both responded to your post being respectful in the process and you didn't have anything to reply with. You just go quiet for a few days then appears in another thread.

The only two warnings I've ever received since posting here have been both times when you reported me. My presence here seems to be a problem for you.

Back on topic -

I wonder why that is?
What is your malfunction with me? You do realize you have brought another thread here to discuss??? You do realize I do not go behind your posts and stalk you? You do realize others have reported you and that you have been asked to chill yet my mere presence sends you into a tizzy?

Facts -' you came into this thread and attacked me with comments from others past. You are offering nothing to this thread and continue personal attacks. I live a full life and can easily disappear a week at a time. I owe you no answers or attention. Lastly, I do not go behind your threads and stalk you. You have a serious issue with me and somehow feel threatened by my presence. Your hatred is clear for it never goes away. At this point, you are embarrassing yourself and are trying to blame me if the hammer comes down on you for the sole reason you break forum rules.

Do you think you might allow the adults in the room to discuss the subject matter? Or are you going to go all Jerry Springer the rest of the day?
 
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Crack on tiger....here I've give you a like. I know how much they.mean to you....lol
 

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Illuminati card game.

My guess is theyre taking a nationalistic symbol out to make the french people feel less like a nation, making the coming NWo easier to apply. And I'll bet they'll blame this on the yellow vests, the ones who actually fought for their country.

 
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2:16 mark, Fox News analyst cutting off a French elected official who was there. Still on the fence here but this incident still seems destined to have some sort of fall out or emphasis on change.
 

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@Awoken2 hi there, I don’t want to meddle in your business but when someone tells you to stop bothering them, just stop. If you keep doing it you’re harassing them. If someone wants to drop the topic they were talking to you in other thread, don’t patronise them in another thread. It’s kinda ruining the flow. I hope you respect them even though you had a bad discussion with them and stay civilised. Thanks.

Now on to the topic, I wouldn’t be surprised if there is something else in this incident, though I hope it’s just pure accident but a lot of things, major and minor world event, that happen always have an agenda behind it. Most world’s events are controlled and planned.
 

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Go to 5:19

Go to 6:00
The second one looks more like Chartres Cathedral but the spire fell almost the same way Notre Dame's did.

I'm not necessarily sold on it being planned though. Might be coincidence but seeing as this is a conspiracy forum, thought it might be interesting to entertain.
CREEPY! The Simpsons is always creepy. They know yeah?
And also I watched a video talking about illuminati cards (from years ago) and a lot what's depicted there are becoming true. This is coincidence? No LOL. Once or twice you can dismiss it coincidence but if it keeps becoming true, it is no longer coincidence but it's SEEN and PLANNED. Something sinister is going on in this world.
 
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It’s an example of chaos. It’s easier to accept a sinister plot to destroy an old church, then it is to think that it is something as random as a construction site accident.

Meanwhile a guy in the American South and a sheriffs deputy’s son burned downed three black churches but this is the first time it’s been mentioned on VCF.
 

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It’s an example of chaos. It’s easier to accept a sinister plot to destroy an old church, then it is to think that it is something as random as a construction site accident.
given the magnitude of importance of this building makes it highly unlikely it was an accident. imagine the delicate care with which the workers were renovating a building of this character... about 800 years and and considered the finest example of french gothic architecture-- do you think that those who commissioned the restoration project chose a bunch of slobs to do this?
 
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given the magnitude of importance of this building makes it highly unlikely it was an accident. imagine the delicate care with which the workers were renovating a building of this character... about 800 years and and considered the finest example of french gothic architecture-- do you think that those who commissioned the restoration project chose a bunch of slobs to do this?
No but even the best tradesman in World are humans and prone to human error. I don’t care if you’re installing natural gas lines in Fairbanks, Alaska, or restoring a centuries old building things happen. If you’ve worked around machinery you know this the case.

Cathedrals were built to intimidate the common man, to make him kneel anyhow. They got what 700m pledged in a day to restore it? To a property owned by richest organization in the World?

If anything this creates another flashpoint in the right wing “alternative reality”.


It’s hard to accept that the truth is Chaos. It hurts to understand that beautiful buildings burn down, people live and die for no reason ( Nipsey) wars are waged for no reason and that people suffer for no reason. Once you accept that though , you’ll realize you’ve come a long way.
 

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It is always odd that we can see things via the news as it happens these days and the 12th century Notre Dame Cathedral is currently burning down. It is the top tourist destination in France and this is happening before Good Friday and Easter. That said, is there more to this unusual fire and its timing? The cathedral has Joan of Ark roots and is a mainstay of the Christian/Catholic world.

Another thing is France is already on fire in a sense with protests. Macron will be front and center in the coming days and he was scheduled to address the French nation about discourse tonight which was canceled.

Is this a natural fire?

It is blowing up on Twitter and Social Media as well. - https://twitter.com/search?q=notre dame cathedral&src=typd
Great topic.
I take as a sign to get right with God whether there was arson or not.
It's one of my favorite churches and symbols of Christendom.
That said here are some of my favorite videos on the subject:

Know More News' take on Notre Dame

Red Elephants' vid
 

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No but even the best tradesman in World are humans and prone to human error. I don’t care if you’re installing natural gas lines in Fairbanks, Alaska, or restoring a centuries old building things happen. If you’ve worked around machinery you know this the case.

Cathedrals were built to intimidate the common man, to make him kneel anyhow. They got what 700m pledged in a day to restore it? To a property owned by richest organization in the World?

If anything this creates another flashpoint in the right wing “alternative reality”.


It’s hard to accept that the truth is Chaos. It hurts to understand that beautiful buildings burn down, people live and die for no reason ( Nipsey) wars are waged for no reason and that people suffer for no reason. Once you accept that though , you’ll realize you’ve come a long way.
Hm yeah.
If your premise is "things happens for no reasons" because 'chaos' is random, I don't understand why you're on VC.

Back on topic, if it's not arson why this :

https://cloverchronicle.com/2019/04/16/exposed-people-rejoiced-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned-down-who-or-what-was-truly-behind-this-tragic-event/
 

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...If anything this creates another flashpoint in the right wing “alternative reality”.
That's indisputable, we see it happening immediately from the right-wing extremists and Islamophobes. There's already a 1000 different takes on the fire, probably 10's of thousands?

I agree with some of the other posters though, this may not be an accident. I read it was the largest "viewed as it's happening" catastrophe of this sort since 9/11, that's a big deal. Buildings burn down for a reason, just like people wage war and kill for a reason... not everything is chance.
 

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It's not surprising to see relics and pagan imagery in Cathedrals built by Roman Catholics centuries ago. That's one of the many reasons why the Protestant reformation took place.
AGREED!!
 
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