BTS discussion thread

[catalenaah]

Ok so many pages to catch up to now, but all I want to say is I really do not for a second believe R M is handler I mean seriously. Why? Because he is part of the group and someone has to keep him in line example: When Lindsay Lohan called Paris Hilton (not to her face but told the paparazzi) "Paris is a C*nt!" and laughed then the paparazzi questioned her and her handler gave her a hand sign (MK ultra) and immediately Lohan changed her personality and denied saying that about Paris even though it only happened seconds ago. R M could not be the handler because if he was on live tv or performing there are always risk he might be triggered and a different personality might come out. I believe the handler is someone behind the scenes maybe even a "stylist". I believe R M is kind of what keeps the group together like he probably is very good at motivational speaking and when times get rough he gets through to them and makes them feel like a family. In a way like brainwashing but I don't think he is a handler... Because he is simply a performer there is someone controlling them and making sure they stay in line...

 

[wow]

okay so i have this theory regarding the video about this:

yeah, completely messed up, i know...

well, im only going to share my opinions on the hand signs they are putting on the video,which are these:


about the "call me sign", i kind of doubt that it is really a call me sign, the sign looks like a devil's horn.
in this website
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/bbcsatanichandsignapologist17may10.shtml
it tells that shaka sign is also satanic,

HANG LOOSE'

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At his presidential inauguration, President Obama was seen doing what is known as the "shaka" greeting, which has the thumb and little finger extended.
It is also exercised by Brazilian footballer Ronaldhinho as part of his goal scoring celebrations.
In Hawaii, where the president was born, the sign conveys affection or "aloha".
It has been adopted by the wider surfing community as a greeting meaning "hi", "cool" or "hang loose".



and also, if you look at twice's signal dance, they do the same call me or shaka sign:
and they put them on top of their heads, just like devil's horns.

and i found this pic on pinterest:

dont really know the true meaning of the shaka sig, and i've tried to search what yonirise is but i couldnt find it, maybe its because of my bad ability with googling, so maybe you guys could help me out?

and second is the devil's horn sign, its self explanatory, so idgaf, but he pointed at tea when he does the sign,what does that mean? could it be that he is hinting that tae is the evil and diabolical one? or maybe he is just randomly putting out his index finger without wanting to point someone out? we dont know...

so thats why you have to...





STAY TUNED TO BT$ AND THE INNOCENT BIGSHIT AND LOVABLE ARMYS SAGA

top 10 satanic animes watchmojo is shaking on their top 10 videos

okay bye its 12 am tf am i doing

 

[purin]

Ok so many pages to catch up to now, but all I want to say is I really do not for a second believe R M is handler I mean seriously. Why? Because he is part of the group and someone has to keep him in line example: When Lindsay Lohan called Paris Hilton (not to her face but told the paparazzi) "Paris is a C*nt!" and laughed then the paparazzi questioned her and her handler gave her a hand sign (MK ultra) and immediately Lohan changed her personality and denied saying that about Paris even though it only happened seconds ago. R M could not be the handler because if he was on live tv or performing there are always risk he might be triggered and a different personality might come out. I believe the handler is someone behind the scenes maybe even a "stylist". I believe R M is kind of what keeps the group together like he probably is very good at motivational speaking and when times get rough he gets through to them and makes them feel like a family. In a way like brainwashing but I don't think he is a handler... Because he is simply a performer there is someone controlling them and making sure they stay in line...

The members said that in private Hobi is the real leader because he takes care of everyone while Rm is the leader when it comes to business(interviews, music). About the handler thing, big$hit is throwing way too many hints about him being a sub handler and don't forget that he's the connection between creepypd and the group. Everything creepypd recommends him to do he also recommends to the members, like listening to gay singers and reading occult books.

 

[purin]

He's really into that neverland young forever concept right...

Well now we know why the members are forced to lose weight to look younger The#p3d0g4te movement needs to hit SK!!!

 

[Frozenrose]

Actually I'm surprised so many people on Allkpop(in the Shading and Bashing thread) see through the "deep" concept behind BT3. I really don't know what's worse - to see part of the truth but to not reach it fully, or to follow blindly and suddenly realising all lies.

 

[Cocomj]

I just want to share my opinion about the photos and posts here. I have to say I'm not a fan of this group but what really appeals to me is the fact that they seem to be enjoying their time together. Also, they have times when hardships struck them, when they're feeling emotional so I was blinded by all these things they portrayed. They have a lot of videos on internet and it feels like you're seeing them as if they were just your next door neighbor.

When I came across this thread all things changed. (Actually it was a video who made me questions everything about them.) I learned a lot on this thread, I think I grow as well. And I have to admit I only learn about the boys because of all the supporting date you guys brought because I don't make it a point to look up what they post online, the date of their new songs and I think everything about them online. I am naturally a lazy person (lol).

But when I saw N@mj00n feminine looks I found myself stumbling on this conclusion. Since most of our post are best on speculation and observation, we don't really have a grounded idea what's going on behind those photos and songs and it was easy for us to judge them based on that. The symbolism is strong and it's everywhere. But N@mjoon's photo struck hard, and I think he's not to be blame.

Let's take a step back for a bit and start thinking back when they first audition for this company. We know that he's smart and a smart person he will want to learn since it's something they crave to feed their curiosity. (I don't want to brag but I'm at that level as well.) I observed that a lot of books he reads were recommended by that bang-up pd, They both have the same interest, both are intellectual so it's natural that these people will want to share what they read and knowledge. But let's also consider that he was in his teenage years at that time, just because you are smart that doesn't mean you are not susceptible to dark agendas. N@mj00n begun his journey admiring this bang-up pd and religiously analyze all the things he handed to him (eventually shared that as well with the sheep armies, and consumed it like cakes on special order). And because he doesn't have faith on God, and never grew up in environment in which he could refer to God, God never stood a chance in the first place against this bang-up pd. He might have thought he was exempted with the things the other members put through since has the most influence within the group. He has the biggest contribution and have a good head, so it's natural that the management put a lot of trust in him. He thought he will never be put through in that light. But he thought wrong because he doesn't have the power to say otherwise. He's not the one who markets the products, they're not the ones who has the connection. And also, let's also question what's written on their contract. They might have contributed but they don't have the final say of the final product, it still subjected for edit and approval of what's really marketable at the moment. Because after all, they were just a nameless brats who are lured in by the promise of fame and money. They never considered of how much they have to give up to be on that level of fame. They never have the power we thought they have.

You can see the confusion in their faces, the exhaustion. They are losing their identities because they have to uphold what the management has to say of what kind of image they should be putting on. Their actions and words are already picked out for them. Even what kind of clothes are picked out for them. They never have much encounter with people outside of that circle because they are FAMOUS and might be at risk. Did it ever occur to you that they might take up their complains to the management but all their concerns fell into deaf ears. They weren't heard because they are not the one who have the final SAY. I can't point my fingers against the boys because they were so young when they entered the company. They had no idea what the future lies ahead for them. And right now, we see dolls being stocked on the shelves because that's what they have become.

I have more to say but I have to cut it short. Maybe, next time I felt sharing my opinion. I'm really sorry it's a long post.

Couldn't have said it better

 

[Cocomj]

As being young and new, and as well as being a new company. They really thought they have to work harder to provide for the company who put their trust on them. Invested time and money, and that hardship paid off. It feels good that the things they worked for so far had bear fruit. But they weren't told with the truth in the first place. They were blinded that their hardships were enough to push them through to the lime lights. Now you can see their eyes mirrored confusion, and clearly asking if they're doing the right thing. But they're already into it too deep.

They have become dependent to the management. Few assuring words, medication and incorporate with few tricky hypnotism are enough to push them through. I'd really like to help them. But I, also a victim of my weaknesses. I'm helpless, I don't have the resources to help someone else's. Let's just hope they don't succumb to that and accept that it's a norm.

I just saw the schedule of their concert, I was shock of how much concert they have to do until next year. Man, they're milking them as if their cows. I'll pray for them to find someone to hold onto, just not to the wrong people.

Edit: There's a reason why they are recruited young, so the transition will be easy.

Let me guess they have to do 50+ or 50 concerts ?

 

[Cocomj]

He's really into that neverland young forever concept right...

Well now we know why the members are forced to lose weight to look younger The#p3d0g4te movement needs to hit SK!!!

(；一_一)(TOT):-|

 

[Hopeful]

Ok the best translation i got was (i can't translate by myself i'm not good enough yet XD )

-Abdominal muscles should be

so in the correct order he is either saying :
-I should have abdominal muscles
or
-I have abdominal issues

I tried sis hope it helps

Well i doubt he doesn't have them .. It's good he's open about it.. Ge doesn't wana show like k00k and jamal.. Good going h0seok

 

[Hopeful]

Another translation in the comments said smth like: "It's almost time to reveal abs...what should i do?"
i guess it should be the one about having abs the. Ar.my being ar.my are trending hastags assuring him that he doesnt need abs to impress them but its surprising to me also cus I dont remember ho.bi ever voicing his insecurity over stuff like abs before

He is trying to be different ... In his mixtap he didn't use abusive words or slang .. Like suga and rm..

Now he doesn't want to show abs.. Like k00k and jamal

 

[Cocomj]

A butterfly again at the end

The lyrics of the song:

If I was lost in the sky
With only one wing left to fly on
My wing would be you

If I were crawling from a wreck
With only a dim light to guide me
That light would be you

If I were forsaken by the gods
And dropped into an island
You would be that island

If the only fragile step
On the path looked hopeless
I would go for that step

Immortal, immortal
I've got a feeling I will be the one
Who will survive through all this pain
I'd die for you

Immortal, immortal
I have torn away a piece of the sky
That didn't seal out the eternal
I'd die for you

If words leave traces
I will tattoo my skin
With the words we haven't said

Nothing will wipe you out
I will guard against the pain
Even if that's all that remains

People will say with beautiful words
That nothing is worth anything
Still this nothing is all mine

What good would it do me
To find my destiny
If it doesn't lead to you?

Immortal, immortal
I've got a feeling I will be the one
Who will survive through all this pain
I'd die for you

Immortal, immortal
I have torn away a piece of the sky
That didn't seal out the eternal
I'd die for you

I'd die for you...

Immortal, immortal
I've got a feeling I will be the one
Who will survive through all this pain
I'd die for you

Immortal, immortal
I have torn away a piece of the sky
That didn't seal out the eternal
I'd die for you

Are you french ? :3

 

[Alpha&Omega]

Let me guess they have to do 50+ or 50 concerts ?

Likely, but they said more dates to come. All the concert that was are up to february, and there are still more? How dare they!

 

[Cocomj]

I also think the same! What if, the biggest mastermind is someone who we nver expect ? Like the one who looks so vulnerable, making us feel sorry for him, acting so pure and innocent... I’m doubting Jin and Kookie at the moment. I donno...




With their concept photos that’s been discussed, we can confirm this.
And oh, do we all agree that this account belongs to bigjhits staff, or joonie?

To me it could be Jn,Sg@,Tae but idk

 

[Cocomj]

Well i doubt he doesn't have them .. It's good he's open about it.. Ge doesn't wana show like k00k and jamal.. Good going h0seok

Agreed

 

[Cocomj]

Likely, but they said more dates to come. All the concert that was are up to february, and there are still more? How dare they!

I know what their manager is trying to do smh

 

[Alpha&Omega]

I know what their manager is trying to do smh

The thing is, we complain but we can do nothing to stop it. They’re clearly exhausted and out of sorts, they could give them time for themselves. They did give them time at some point, but not without someone from the company accompanying them.

 

[Hopeful]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1030520144773242880

 

[mimis]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1030520144773242880

What accident?

 

[Hopeful]

What accident?

The accident from the highlight reel.. Where they come in front of cars and trying to save girls

 

[mimis]

I think tomorrow bts are going to release something. Because tomorrow is 18 August (1+8= 9) and it will be 6 days till their album release! May be mv teaser??