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mecca said:
Colonizing a country by murdering the native people and stealing their land shouldn't be described as "taming". The Europeans who came to America saw the Native Americans as savages that had to be tamed. It's not really an aspect of American history that we should be proud of or glorify.
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sorry to break it to you, they were savages. to each other. far before the latest euros arrived in north america*, the american indians were warring with one another and performing torture on other tribespeople. whites might have shot at indians, but indians slow roasted their enemies over a fire. their treatment of women was also abysmal, but youll never hear about that unless you read first hand accounts from that era (which i have). (its the same hypocricy with that as it is with feminist SJWs railing in the west while theyres nary a word said about the conditions and restrictions of women under sharia law.)

the land was taken from them. everyone can agree with that, and its not one of americas bright spots. however, the pioneering spirit into the formidable west is very american and something to be proud of in history (if this is what trump was alluding to, i am in agreement). keep in mind that until about 1840 or so, almost all americans believed it was pure desert with nothing to see.

by the way, early western fur traders from 1810 to about 1835+/- got along VERY well with the indians. it wasnt until religion was forced upon them and the hoardes came through that the fighting began.

*romans, egyptians, and others (vikings, etc.) all visited north america far earlier. if we want to get technical, native americans really were not native to north america. they just happen to be here prior to the latest european peoples arrival.
 
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polymoog said:
sorry to break it to you, they were savages. to each other. far before the latest euros arrived in north america*, the american indians were warring with one another and performing torture on other tribespeople. whites might have shot at indians, but indians slow roasted their enemies over a fire. their treatment of women was also abysmal, but youll never hear about that unless you read first hand accounts from that era (which i have). (its the same hypocricy with that as it is with feminist SJWs railing in the west while theyres nary a word said about the conditions and restrictions of women under sharia law.)

the land was taken from them. everyone can agree with that, and its not one of americas bright spots. however, the pioneering spirit into the formidable west is very american and something to be proud of in history (if this is what trump was alluding to, i am in agreement). keep in mind that until about 1840 or so, almost all americans believed it was pure desert with nothing to see.

by the way, early western fur traders from 1810 to about 1835+/- got along VERY well with the indians. it wasnt until religion was forced upon them and the hoardes came through that the fighting began.

*romans, egyptians, and others (vikings, etc.) all visited north america far earlier. if we want to get technical, native americans really were not native to north america. they just happen to be here prior to the latest european peoples arrival.
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And the Europeans responded with more savagery.
 
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Ghostie said:
Us whities were savages with a written language, Europe was subject to countless continental wars and atrocities. Civilized lol
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true, but you are off on a tangent.
the white christians that founded this country didnt behave as the native americans did by hours and hours of torturing victims. and as you are well aware, america in its early days was isolationist and didnt involve itself in foreign wars because this was an attempt to change things.
 
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mecca said:
And the Europeans responded with more savagery.
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i never said the american colonists behaved like jainists, but if you are conceding that the american indians were savage as well and not so lighter than air as we have been indoctrined to believe in recent years, im good with that.
 
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polymoog said:
i never said the american colonists behaved like jainists, but if you are conceding that the american indians were savage as well and not so lighter than air as we have been indoctrined to believe in recent years, im good with that.
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They weren't any more "savage" than anyone else. The Europeans that colonized America were racist, they called the Native Americans savages and they called themselves enlightened. They thought they were superior and had a right to take what didn't belong to them.
 
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Whilst everyone is busy with the fissures of empire at home.
The fissures abroad are expanding.
The financiers are playing with the rabid dog of empire and driving it mad.

1. The Trump admin has imposed sanctions on enemies and tariffs on their allies.
2. US asking for more troops for Europe.(Russia is the target)

Trade wars usually come before hot wars apparently. Let us pray for peace.
 
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mecca said:
They weren't any more "savage" than anyone else. The Europeans that colonized America were racist, they called the Native Americans savages and they called themselves enlightened. They thought they were superior and had a right to take what didn't belong to them.
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And absolutely nothing has changed since. See Freemasonry....the enlightened...yeah right.
 
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Bacsi said:
The lowest unemployment rate in 18 years.
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He's been in office less than 18 months. He hasn't had time to effect the economy in any significant way. You are merely seeing the continuation of a trend that started years ago, under Obama.
 
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Hubert said:
He's been in office less than 18 months. He hasn't had time to effect the economy in any significant way. You are merely seeing the continuation of a trend that started years ago, under Obama.
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That low it was only under Clinton. Trump (or his puppeteers) must be doing smth right.
 
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Do you know that if things had gone a different way then that 9/11 hoist pulled off by Lowy and Silverstein could have been a Trump job?


More evidence here that Trump is in the club.


They are simply puppets for evil people who worship Lucifer


From the horses mouth


This is the most powerful man on earth people, can you not see what a whole heap of shit we are currently in?
 
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I thought Ivanka was Miss Zionist U.S.A

Just saying, she's definitely into Judaism. A Jewish mason is kind of a contradiction though. At least according to popular beliefs about freemasonry. Now if yall want to change your view of freemasonry that would work better.

Keep in mind certain sects of Gnosticism don't like Judaism. They think that the Jewish God is really Satan. So it's an interesting combination of ideologies to say the least.
 
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