Why is Feminism much worse than Cancer nowadays that is caused by women which keeps most men single?

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Question what do you think of the draft being implemented for women in the US.

Why does it always come to this question. Like it's some noble gotcha.

1/ who banned women from being drafted? Oh that's right men
2/ who is it that banned women from fighting in wars?.....oh yeah men.
3/ the draft only exists in very few countries like Israel, who by the way draft women and men. If countries don't usually it's men who ban women
4/ history shows women wanted to fight. The American civil war and WW1 both have famous examples of cross dressing women who pretended to be men to fight. The most famous is Mulan. It's not that women didn't want to fight they were banned and cross dressing women shows that women wanted to and did
5/ during conflict women didn't just sit at home drinking tea, knitting and playing cards. In early wars they followed their men. Cooking cleaning and doing general chores for the companies they followed. Later on they volunteered as nurses working on the front line being killed themselves.
Then there are spies. Many women died and still do spying.
Both world wars saw women taking over the roles men left, driving buses/trans, farming, manufacturing, including ammo, guns, uniforms, food, planes and tanks. Women delivered those planes flying them in enemy territory without weapons to protect themselves. On top of this they cared for children and the elderly, did all their normal duties and what did they get for it abuse, ignored, told to get lost after the war, wages that didn't match the men who did the same job. They were still nurses, doctors and other roles in the front line. Even the queen of England was a mechanic during the war.
And last but not least women are the victims of war. They are raped, abused and murdered. Treated like spoils of war. One story that will always stand out to me. Is the one of a young 13 in Berlin who was being treated by an American nurse. The nurse spent 15 hours taking pieces of glass out of the young girls vagina and cervix. Russians had raped her then thrust a glass bottle inside her so hard it shattered. This is just one story of billions through out history.

So yeah men were drafted but blame men for that. The rule that men had to be drafted was created before women could even vote.
 

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Why does it always come to this question. Like it's some noble gotcha.

1/ who banned women from being drafted? Oh that's right men
2/ who is it that banned women from fighting in wars?.....oh yeah men.
3/ the draft only exists in very few countries like Israel, who by the way draft women and men. If countries don't usually it's men who ban women
4/ history shows women wanted to fight. The American civil war and WW1 both have famous examples of cross dressing women who pretended to be men to fight. The most famous is Mulan. It's not that women didn't want to fight they were banned and cross dressing women shows that women wanted to and did
5/ during conflict women didn't just sit at home drinking tea, knitting and playing cards. In early wars they followed their men. Cooking cleaning and doing general chores for the companies they followed. Later on they volunteered as nurses working on the front line being killed themselves.
Then there are spies. Many women died and still do spying.
Both world wars saw women taking over the roles men left, driving buses/trans, farming, manufacturing, including ammo, guns, uniforms, food, planes and tanks. Women delivered those planes flying them in enemy territory without weapons to protect themselves. On top of this they cared for children and the elderly, did all their normal duties and what did they get for it abuse, ignored, told to get lost after the war, wages that didn't match the men who did the same job. They were still nurses, doctors and other roles in the front line. Even the queen of England was a mechanic during the war.
And last but not least women are the victims of war. They are raped, abused and murdered. Treated like spoils of war. One story that will always stand out to me. Is the one of a young 13 in Berlin who was being treated by an American nurse. The nurse spent 15 hours taking pieces of glass out of the young girls vagina and cervix. Russians had raped her then thrust a glass bottle inside her so hard it shattered. This is just one story of billions through out history.

So yeah men were drafted but blame men for that. The rule that men had to be drafted was created before women could even vote.
Was just wondering if this is ok for equality? Didn't need your hate and synoptic rundown on every question. Just a simple yeah that's fair or that's just stupid that's all.
 

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First of all it's not a man vs woman thing. Women have chosen to willingly cooperate with men throughout history because it's the easy road.

As for feminism, how is feminism a threat to men? I've never seen more men-loving women than during my time in feminist spaces. I was expecting to find hardcore man-hating feminists, but they're very few and far between. That's why I don't consider myself a feminist anymore.
If men are so terrible and treat women like trash but you continue to be involved with them and live with them, what does that make you?

All they do is complain abt how much they do for men wo getting anything in return.
Anytime a story abt a woman getting raped or killed comes up, they rehash their experiences with male violence and trauma-bond with one other.
Then go back home to fuck their husband/bf. After crying all day abt how mean are and how pervasive male violence is.
Then another story abt a woman getting raped or killed comes up, and the show starts all over again, rinse repeat.
Yes we are well aware morita that you are a WGTOW or whatever you want to call it. Good for you. Would you like a cookie?

most of us have no desire to subjugate our fathers, sons, brothers and lovers. We just want to be allowed to be ourselves, be respected appreciated and acknowledged, and have a life that we choose that makes us happy. Feminists that rant about bad experiences they have had with men are perfectly capable of finding a relationship with a man that won’t treat her that way. This is the difference between MACRO level complaints and analysis and MICRO level lived experience. You are no better then the evil men who tell women what they can and can’t do, you just want to control them a different way.
 

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You googled something in 5 minutes and found some info and ran with it. Or are you going to pretend as if you’ve done deep research n what neged means?



When have women built something from the ground up and led a society? Men putting a structure in place then a woman stepping into lead for a short amount of time is different than women setting up a structure and then leading it successfully.

Everything you point I’m sure the framework for whatever society they were leading was built by men...



They also built everything that makes your life easier remember? I think when I asked you last time what women contributed as a unit that’s when the convo ended... wanna go there again or just bow out?
What is the point in having that conversation with you when you ignore that women’s contributions em masse are limited by what men and the laws they made “allowed” them to do, you shrug off the accomplishments of exceptional women who managed to make them despite that, you are non plussed with the countless examples of men who stole credit for women’s accomplishments and you don’t place any value in traditional female contributions (aka what people with vaginas were permitted to do) to begin with?

if all you value is physical strength and “building things” then there is no conversation to be had. FYI building isn’t the only way to create and quite frankly males obsession with excessive building is killing the planet we live on. So go ahead and take credit for that one too. Have fun.

any comment on males tendency to violence and aggression or their predisposition to impulsive risky behavior? Or do you only care about skyscrapers? Give credit for everything “good” men do but deny culpability for any of their harms?
 
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Yeah I know you have some other whacked out belief but Lucifer isn’t the entity in your religion either.
I said you’re a luciferian. I didn’t say anything about an entity named Lucifer. In fact it was you that did.

Maybe go try boxing with a xtian, your arms aren’t long enough here
 

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This doofus probably thinks the world is 6k years old. Of course it’s not and there is roughly 195k years where we pretty much wandered and didn’t build shit other than temporary structures which I’m sure women helped sew up for tents and what not.
He believes an inferior being is capable of “helping” a superior being with the superior beings delegated tasks somehow so... if we were inferior we wouldn’t be much damn help

somehow this escapes him
 

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You googled something in 5 minutes and found some info and ran with it. Or are you going to pretend as if you’ve done deep research n what neged means?



When have women built something from the ground up and led a society? Men putting a structure in place then a woman stepping into lead for a short amount of time is different than women setting up a structure and then leading it successfully.

Everything you point I’m sure the framework for whatever society they were leading was built by men...



They also built everything that makes your life easier remember? I think when I asked you last time what women contributed as a unit that’s when the convo ended... wanna go there again or just bow out?
I actually have done in depth research into the Hebrew and Greek terms in key passage used by misogynists to subjugate women. I'll answer your question if you answer why black people pale in comparison to whites when it comes to innovation and achievement. Is it because of inherent inferiority or is it because of removed opportunity? Because the last time I asked that, you rattled off about a whitewashed history you couldnt prove and then conveniently decided not to apply that same brush to women.
 
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Yep women and men are compliments. But men are still the head

Also the word neged in the Bible is used to mean a variety of things.Right or wrong?


Yes the masculine is the compliment to the feminine and vice versa. You’re still not men’s equal in purpose


I’m not sure how to answer your comparison because it doesn’t relate to what we’re talking about. Yes if you remove one part of say a 6 part machine it will not work properly if at all. How does that relate to men and women not being equal (relating to PURPOSE AND NOT VALUE)?

Seems like stubbornness pride and ego could be applied to you (or anyone with a stance they’re not willing to easily give up). But at the end of the day:

1 Cor 11:9
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

Take that up with the Creator. I just believe what was written
And again posting scripture that you cut out from the rest. You still never responded to this btw:
The better translation for "tsela" is actually "side", not rib. You're going to great lengths to be disingenuous when you pick the English translation (which differs across bibles btw) over the original Hebrew text. Moreover, what verse does God say that women are unequal in purpose? Because if I recall correctly, both the man and the women were told to be fruitful and multiply and to subdue and rule over the earth. The command for dominion was not given until Eve was there and God doesnt exclude her from it. He doesn't tell her that rule is not for her. God doesnt seem to differentiate purpose between the two. Also you forget that the Corinthian scripture comes full circle. It goes on to say that as the women came from the man, so every man alive after Adam has come from women. And that in the Lord, man is not independent of woman and vice versa. The author of that book btw (Paul) partnered with women throughout his ministry. In Romans 16, 10 of the 18 people commended are women. He also refers to these women with the same terms as he does his male ministry workers. His favored term? Co-workers. Also, if women were meant to follow the housewife model, why were women the ones who nearly exclusively funded Jesus' ministry? Paul too, praises a woman named Phoebe as a patron of his. Isnt this women "usurping" the role of men as provider?
You're gonna bow out of this again?
 
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Wouldn’t there have to be an entity called Lucifer in order to be a luciferian?
You have to talk to your luciferian brotherhood on that one.

I’m not one btw.
Ahh I’d have to go back to see but I’d say I directed that to you at least 4/5 times in this thread and this is your first time denying it.

But that doesn’t matter because luciferians support transgenders self identifying as anything they want. So they could be a luciferian and just “self identify” as something else. But it’s a “you’ll know them by their fruits” type of thing

Anyway it’s silly arguing with you because you think you’re smart
No. I’d say I have some understanding though. That’s why you went straight to the insults instead of dealing with what I said..
 

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So question is, who is TheVerySeriousTruth?

Just noticing he made this thread to never return.

Screenshot 2021-07-23 at 20-36-57 TheVerySeriousTruth.png


What would you say if i told you there are actually sock accounts participating in the thread?


How many socks does VC have?
Screenshot 2021-07-23 at 20-41-59 The Vigilant Citizen Forums.png

100? 1000? ..

People are crazy.
 
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You googled something in 5 minutes and found some info and ran with it. Or are you going to pretend as if you’ve done deep research n what neged means?



When have women built something from the ground up and led a society? Men putting a structure in place then a woman stepping into lead for a short amount of time is different than women setting up a structure and then leading it successfully.

Everything you point I’m sure the framework for whatever society they were leading was built by men...



They also built everything that makes your life easier remember? I think when I asked you last time what women contributed as a unit that’s when the convo ended... wanna go there again or just bow out?
Well first off humanity exists because women birthed every single human being alive and dead.
Women also invented a hell of a lot of things that have improved society as a whole. Many of which men stole or took the credit for.

Women's inventions.
-computer software
- windscreen wiper
- long cycle-life nickel-hydrogen battery
- dishwasher
- home security system
- stem cell isolation
- kevar ( fabric used in bullet proof vest s)
- circular saw
- computer algorithm
- submarine lamp and telescope
- locamotive chimney
- life raft
- for escape
- car heater
- medical syringe
- street sweeper
- airplane muffle.
- electric refrigerator.
- central heating.
- microelectrode.
- wireless transmission technology.
- thermoelectric power generator.
- anti fungal drugs.
- hydyne rocket fuel.
- Immunosuppressive drugs.
- Space rocket propulsion system.
- word processor.
- photo enhancement.
- laser cataract surgery.
These are just a few examples and not to mention a few things men took credit for that women discovered/invented such as The double helix, nuclear fission among others.


Women might have contributed more but seeing as women of all social standings were banned from reading, writing and even thinking for themselves then how were they to contribute? It's funny how women's inventions and innovations skyrocketed once women were given opportunities.

Also I'll point out. Civilisation is likely to have began due to women. The evolution from hunted gather to farmer. Likely happened due to women as women did the cultivating.
 
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First of all it's not a man vs woman thing. Women have chosen to willingly cooperate with men throughout history because it's the easy road.
I suppose the constant threat of witch burnings, mutilation, torture, beating, stonings, hanging, ostracization really puts a dampner on trying to gain independence that and the fact men made it near impossible to be independence if you were born with a vagina. You can't really go it alone when you can't won or rent, can't own money, can't live alone, can't vote, can't read or write, get a job, don't even own your own name.
 
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Was just wondering if this is ok for equality? Didn't need your hate and synoptic rundown on every question. Just a simple yeah that's fair or that's just stupid that's all.
Hate? I was merely stating facts. Is it hate or have you been called out on an obvious attempt at a gotcha. It's one of the oldest in the book and one of the easiest to debunk.
Why should or would I give you a simple answer? I gave you a honest run down of why your question in the long run does not work. If the country in question still had the draft ( the UK and us does not. The main contributers of this forum) and did not draft women then you could question it. But 99% of the time the reason women are not drafted is because men banned it. That's not on women that's on men.
 
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What is the point in having that conversation with you when you ignore that women’s contributions em masse are limited by what men and the laws they made “allowed” them to do, you shrug off the accomplishments of exceptional women who managed to make them despite that, you are non plussed with the countless examples of men who stole credit for women’s accomplishments and you don’t place any value in traditional female contributions (aka what people with vaginas were permitted to do) to begin with?
Umm ok now that women are liberated what are they contributing en masse that doesn’t include men? The real issue is that you just don’t want to accept what your greatest contribution to life is which is extremely valuable when it comes to how life and society moves forward. And one can’t stress enough how valuable that is. But feminism teaches women to reject that or place a lower value on that for....?

all you value is physical strength and “building things” then there is no conversation to be had. FYI building isn’t the only way to create and quite frankly males obsession with excessive building is killing the planet we live on. So go ahead and take credit for that one too. Have fun.

any comment on males tendency to violence and aggression or their predisposition to impulsive risky behavior? Or do you only care about skyscrapers? Give credit for everything “good” men do but deny culpability for any of their harms?
You just don’t want to give men credit for how easy life is for you. So instead of crediting them for doing what they did you say “well women coulda did that too” . It just shows a lack of appreciation. All you can do is complain but you can’t appreciate what they have done to improve your life from being a hunter and gatherer. And the destroying the planet refers to the people in control who purposely destroy the planet and suppress cleaner energies because they know they have a limited time to rule. That’s the luciferians who backed your feminist movement btw..

And it should go without saying that there’s toxic masculine AND feminine traits that when left unchecked can bring harm to theirselves or others. Or what? You think there’s only toxic masculinity and nothing on femininity?
 

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Hate? I was merely stating facts. Is it hate or have you been called out on an obvious attempt at a gotcha. It's one of the oldest in the book and one of the easiest to debunk.
Why should or would I give you a simple answer? I gave you a honest run down of why your question in the long run does not work. If the country in question still had the draft ( the UK and us does not. The main contributers of this forum) and did not draft women then you could question it. But 99% of the time the reason women are not drafted is because men banned it. That's not on women that's on men.
I saw an article about it and was wondering peoples takes on it is all. Don't you read the news its being thought about and possibly could be implemented and was wondering takes on it. But you take it as an offense and a gotcha wow what a way to live with hate like that its toxic.

Here's my answer. I think its fair but wish no draft was implemented at all for anyone.
 

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You have to talk to your luciferian brotherhood on that one.


Ahh I’d have to go back to see but I’d say I directed that to you at least 4/5 times in this thread and this is your first time denying it.
I'm pretty sure hes luciferian. Its kinda obvious from some things he's said in other threads.

Its intereting how feminists and luciferians agree, isn't it? Its kinda like the devil only has one enemy.
 

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Why is that anybody's business Daze? Also I think you're the only one interested, thinking you'll somehow make a point.
Because i see a very strong collaboration between godlessness and feminism.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, it seems every feminist here has no connection with the Creator.

Since you think its funny how i highlight luciferians and feminists sharing an agenda, I offered for you to take the floor and regale us with stories on your piety.

There is no point to be made, just commenting on the obvious.
 

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Because i see a very strong collaboration between godlessness and feminism.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, it seems every feminist here has no connection with the Creator.

Since you think its funny how i highlight luciferians and feminists sharing an agenda, I offered for you to take the floor and regale us with stories on your piety.

There is no point to be made, just commenting on the obvious.
Coming from someone who believes women are more easily susceptible to following Satan and going to hell . . . forgive me for not taking your comments too seriously. Self righteous hypocrites like yourself are doing a fine job of representing the devil's heart for people and I'd rather not take up your business.
 
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