Etagloc
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That's funny, I was just thinking about making a post about American History X, citing it as overrated. Now I look at your list and see you also thought it was an overrated movie.Several years ago I went through IMDB's top 250 movies list. I put together a list of the the movies I did not like from that list. http://www.imdb.com/list/ls004440819/. This was back in 2012 so I am sure there have been a lot more movies lately that would make the list!
American History X and Fight Club are really two parts of a larger movie. What Fight Club promotes would logically end up leading to violence against minorities. Therefore, American History X, represents the expansion of that movie. It follows Fight Club to part of its logical conclusion. Fight Club doesn't show the racist violence whereas American History X makes it explicit. Those are both some very evil movies.
And if you like MK-Ultra and you think stuff associated with it is cool, either you're out of touch with reality or you haven't really studied MK Ultra and what it's about. I don't understand why people are on VC forums without understanding VC's basic message. Everyone, I think, should study Fritz Springmeier's work on MK Ultra and also should study Michael Hoffman's Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare book. These are two sources VC draws from. I do feel like if people are here, they should pretty much be in line with the basic premises of VC's research. We are dealing with Satanic stuff and if you find yourself drawn to Satanic stuff in a sympathetic way.... that's disturbing and I think you should be disturbed for yourself and others should be disturbed and see you as someone carrying a sickness... as that sort of thing is a sickness.
I also agree with you about American Beauty. That movie was disgusting and very immoral.
Screw it, American Beauty could be the third part of that meta-movie.
I was just talking yesterday to someone from Peru. A woman from Peru had to talked to me in Spanish about the Shining Path and with the man I was talking to yesterday we were also discussing the Shining Path.
If you are interested in Latin American history, you simply have to study guerrillas. They form a huge part of Latin America's history and whether you're talking about Mexico, El Salvador, Cuba (obviously), Peru, Guatemala, etc., you can't really discuss the history without discussing guerrillas. It's a recurring thing throughout Latin American history.
Both the people I was talking from Peru HATED the Shining Path. The guy yesterday said "nobody likes them". To my understanding, most Peruvians hate the Shining Path. The lady who was talking about them in Spanish had a visible look of disgust when she discussed them. The Shining Path were/are a communist guerrilla group.
The guy yesterday explained (I'm paraphrasing) "They started out with a good idea. The government was corrupt and they were against the corruption. That was good. But then from there they went to killing civilians and destroying stuff, like for example the power lines. They made it to where many ordinary Peruvians were unable to have electricity. And they would chop your head off if you disagreed with them. Many people fled the country and were horrified. They're terrorists."
I wouldn't say it was so much a particular idea but a certain consciousness- critical consciousness. The phenomena here is the perversion of critical consciousness. Now let me explain.
It's a basic formula. In the past I have called it the Marxist non-sequitur because the first example I know of is Marxism. It's really a perversion of what Socrates did and what he was about. Socrates developed critical consciousness. He was able to see through the absurdities around him and awaken peoples' consciousness. This led him to thinking and becoming a philosopher. Today, Slavoj Zizek continues that same, ancient tradition- he awakens people to the nonsense around them and tries to lead them to thinking better and making better decisions. Then you have Marx with his fundamental insanity.
Marx denounces society's absurdity. Okay, good so far.
1) Critical Consciousness (okay, right on! power to the people!)
then the non sequitur (that which doesn't follow)
2) Kill, destroy everything (huh, what???)
So you can see the fundamental absurdity of Marx.
1) Critical Consciousness
non sequitur
2) Kill, destroy everything
Shining Path
1) Critical Consciousness
non sequitur
2) Terrorize the civilians we are supposedly liberating
Fight Club
1) Critical Consciousness
non sequitur
2) Engage in violence for the sake of violence
American History X
1) Critical Consciousness
non sequitur
2) Engage in violence for its own sake against minorities
American Beauty
1) Critical Consciousness
non sequitur
2) Middle-aged dude has sex with his daughter's teenage friend while the movie applauds him
Dictionary.com, Non sequitur definition: "An inference or a conclusion that does not follow from the premises.".