The Belief Salvation

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  1. Violette

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    Faith without works is dead.
    “What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.”
    ‭‭James‬ ‭2:14-17‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
     
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  2. Mr. Blah

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    Gossiping after youth church service. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Todd

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    @Lisa Still waiting for you to explain Matthew 25:35-46:)
     
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  4. Lisa

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    And I already answered you yesterday...

    But the verse in question says he gives to "each man"....it doesn't say he gives only to those who aren't saved.
    I have brought up Matthew 25:35-46 multiple times with you Lisa and you always ignore and never answer.
    What does Matthew 25:35-46 mean to you, if you think works or deeds are not relevant to the believer at the time of judgement?
    Well, works are relevant to the believer, but not for salvation. You can't be saved by works only faith. But, you will want to do the works God has prepared for you, well hopefully you will anyway. Guess you could always say no but that's going backwards don't ya think?
     

  5. Todd

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    So "depart from me, I never knew you" , has nothing to do with salvation? Jesus was just telling saved people, to go some part of the kingdom that Jesus wasn;t going to frequent? I don't understand what you mean by works being relevant but not for salvation.
     
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  6. floss

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    He said he never knew you, NOT he used to know you. Which mean they were never saved to begin with because they rely on the many works to be justified.

    If you were saved, how can he tell you that he NEVER knew you? This is for people that believeth in false doctrines relying on their many works instead of JESUS. In the end nothing you do matter, only JESUS can justified you and not your many works. In the last day if you bring your many works upon JESUS, he will tell you to depart from him because you were never saved, that's why he NEVER knew you. Again, only JESUS can save you and not your many works. Sorry repeating a lot already.
     
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  8. Todd

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    Well that makes absolutely no sense since he said that to the people who didn't do the works? Are you a little confused?
     
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  9. Todd

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    20 minutes to explain it? You have got to be kidding
    If you can't explain it yourself and need a video to explain it for you, you probably don't really understand it yourself. And the reason you don't understand is not because you aren't intelligent but because it takes 20 minutes of mental gymnastics and running around in circles to convince someone that "faith without works is dead", doesn't really mean "faith without works is dead".
     

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