The American “Coup d’etat”

[Maes17]

Has nothing to do with delusion. What juridical and/or political options are left according to you?

There’s no options left. Unless he can get the house to challenge January 6th. It’s all moot point

 

[Maes17]

If you’re confident. Trust the process right?
History is being made

 

[Maes17]

First, I find it amusing the first one you posted is a threat against Trump supporters.

And to get that many “calls for violence” you just reposted the screenshots from your first post in a different order. Twice. Dishonest, though not very imaginative, at all.

Furthermore, those posts pale in comparison with this psycho:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1336739402014330880

That rep is spewing hate speech. I don’t support that.

The extreme ideology however does stem both ways.
Violence is violence.
Antifa, blm, proud boys. They are all extremist to me. And if it’s not them, then perhaps there are select few who instigate violence to divide citizens.

 

[justjess]

When and where did I tell you that?


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This is not a call for a civil war, it's a prediction. Turns out we got the elections after all, but not an election as usual, and the civil war is still a legitimate threat. I would never advocate for a civil war, and most certainly not in a different country. I've been announcing manufactured civil wars in the West for more than a decade. But the way this is going, the frog is starting to figure out the boiling water will be fatal. If they allow electoral transparency and it shows Biden won by legal votes, there will most likely not be a civil war. If they don't, then they're not only risking civil war, they're knowingly provoking it.

I assume you are referring to this statement?
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If so, that's just a factual statement, not a justification. But I have justified Antifa getting a solid non-lethal beating, sure, even though Antifa systematically uses lethal methods in their attacks. Not to mention that I already gave an analogy to your selective indignation:

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Proud Boys leader visits White House ahead of DC election protests

‘He did not have a meeting with the president, nor did the White House invite him’

www.independent.co.uk

Proud Boys leader wasn't invited to White House, took public tour: spokesman

The White House said a leader of the far-right Proud Boys group who posted photos on social media outside the executive mansion on Saturday had not been invited and was instead on a holiday tour open to the public.

www.reuters.com

Agreed. Now go tell that to the radical left.

Agreed. Now go tell that to the radical left.

If you truly believe the proud boy leader was there for a Christmas tour you are more naive then I thought. Apparantly now the msm tells the truth - but only when it’s convenient for you. Plausible deniability is the first rule of criminality.

I don’t have a hard line to either the radical left or the radical right. But I haven’t seen the radical left calling for blowing people’s brains out or starting a civil war. There’s a big difference there.

Man Is Arrested in Stabbing at D.C. Election Protest (Published 2020)

The confrontation near the White House between supporters and opponents of President Trump was one of several on Saturday in Washington and in state capitals across the country.

www.nytimes.com

And shit like this is concerning. Mob violence is concerning. These aren’t fair fights - it’s ten on one. Proud boys instigate, the left fights back, the right shouts about the violent left. Your all ignoring stage one.

 

[justjess]

First, I find it amusing the first one you posted is a threat against Trump supporters.

And to get that many “calls for violence” you just reposted the screenshots from your first post in a different order. Twice. Dishonest, though not very imaginative, at all.

Furthermore, those posts pale in comparison with this psycho:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1336739402014330880

Signup for Parler and lurk for a day. Come back and tell me I’m wrong. You won’t be able to.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Signup for Parler and lurk for a day. Come back and tell me I’m wrong. You won’t be able to.

I would observe that ungodly right wing activists are every bit as repellant as ungodly left wing activists. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and, as a retrospective eye on history shows, the end rarely justifies the means.

 

[justjess]

I would observe that ungodly right wing activists are every bit as repellant as ungodly left wing activists. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and, as a retrospective eye on history shows, the end rarely justifies the means.

Red - some of my employees are making these posts. They aren’t activists of any sort. They are HVAC techs and construction workers who’s brains have been apparently warped. By what - we can probably agree to disagree. This isn’t a minor contained issue, it’s spreading like wildfire throughout the right. Ive seen similar posts from friends I’ve known decades and family members I’ve known my whole life. Generally good people. And yes talk is talk. But what happens when it becomes obvious trump is leaving the White House? Do you really think it remains just talk?

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Red - some of my employees are making these posts. They aren’t activists of any sort. They are HVAC techs and construction workers who’s brains have been apparently warped. By what - we can probably agree to disagree. This isn’t a minor contained issue, it’s spreading like wildfire throughout the right. Ive seen similar posts from friends I’ve known decades and family members I’ve known my whole life. Generally good people. And yes talk is talk. But what happens when it becomes obvious trump is leaving the White House? Do you really think it remains just talk?

I think I used the wrong word when I referred to “activists”. I meant people who take their politics and use it as a weapon to hurt others with.

 

[Maes17]

Red - some of my employees are making these posts. They aren’t activists of any sort. They are HVAC techs and construction workers who’s brains have been apparently warped. By what - we can probably agree to disagree. This isn’t a minor contained issue, it’s spreading like wildfire throughout the right. Ive seen similar posts from friends I’ve known decades and family members I’ve known my whole life. Generally good people. And yes talk is talk. But what happens when it becomes obvious trump is leaving the White House? Do you really think it remains just talk?

One of my friends is a hardcore patriot. You guys be the judge. Not saying all right wing people are racist killers. But some are so into the cult. My friend included

 

[Maes17]

I think I used the wrong word when I referred to “activists”. I meant people who take their politics and use it as a weapon to hurt others with.

That’s what I call extremist. Any normal American doesn’t want a civil war. The extremist are a loud misrepresentation of leftist or right wing supporters.

It’s ok for free speech and protest. It’s the violence that ensues that looks bad

 

[justjess]

View attachment 48819One of my friends is a hardcore patriot. You guys be the judge. Not saying all right wing people are racist killers. But some are so into the cult. My friend included

I’ve been screenshotting this bullshit too... cuz if this talk turns into something more I need records to support firing people.

I almost got kicked out of my homesteading group because half the members there were saying similar shit I told them they were disturbed for wanting to slaughter their neighbors and family over political differences. I’ve never even mentioned politics there and as soon as I said that I was labeled a liberal communist and got hanged up on by like ten people.

 

[Maes17]

I’ve been screenshotting this bullshit too... cuz if this talk turns into something more I need records to support firing people.

Yeah this is getting pretty damn sad.

 

[justjess]

I think I used the wrong word when I referred to “activists”. I meant people who take their politics and use it as a weapon to hurt others with.

And what happens when the amount of people who do that expands exponentially? These people im mentioning - as I said before - I’ve known for very long periods of time. They were good people, I believe at heart they still are somewhere that’s getting buried. They are husbands and fathers and brothers and workers and friends. Wives and mothers and daughters and sisters etc.

I’m not talking about people who are long standing members of the fringe.

 

[Maes17]

And what happens when the amount of people who do that expands exponentially? These people im mentioning - as I said before - I’ve known for very long periods of time. They were good people, I believe at heart they still are somewhere that’s getting buried. They are husbands and fathers and brothers and workers and friends. Wives and mothers and daughters and sisters etc.

I’m not talking about people who are long standing members of the fringe.

Same. I have family members, friends, in laws.
My aunts husband - former army ranger. Votes democrat. His own siblings are disowning him just cause he didn’t vote for Trump. I honestly don’t know the appeal or allure. It’s almost trance like now.

I voted for the guy in 2016 but even I saw the seeds of division being sowed. Sure it started under Obama. But there is just something about Trump that is just downright disturbing these past few months

 

[Maes17]

This is what I’m trying to convey to this board.
If you guys support Trump. Cool. No problem. It’s his constitutional right to do what he did to contest.

But also realize there is a fringe group in the making. Sure it’s retaliation to antifa, chop zones etc. But now they are targeting anyone who is not agreeing with them period

 

[justjess]

Same. I have family members, friends, in laws.
My aunts husband - former army ranger. Votes democrat. His own siblings are disowning him just cause he didn’t vote for Trump. I honestly don’t know the appeal or allure. It’s almost trance like now.

I voted for the guy in 2016 but even I saw the seeds of division being sowed. Sure it started under Obama. But there is just something about Trump that is just downright disturbing these past few months

My cousin literally left his home and has been on the road for months rather then stay home with my godfather (his father) because it’s been so bad... and my godfather is one of my most favorite people on earth. We’ve been arguing back and forth about politics since I’m like ten years old. It’s always been friendly and in good fun. It’s changed lately.. it’s something different. And it isn’t on my end cuz I get why he votes trump - his taxes (wealthy man).

 

[Maes17]

My cousin literally left his home and has been on the road for months rather then stay home with my godfather (his father) because it’s been so bad... and my godfather is one of my most favorite people on earth. We’ve been arguing back and forth about politics since I’m like ten years old. It’s always been friendly and in good fun. It’s changed lately.. it’s something different. And it isn’t on my end cuz I get why he votes trump - his taxes (wealthy man).

It is different. I honestly feel it’s about being in control. They’re using the constitution and American rights as a shield to act out in violence

 

[Maes17]

I’ll say this. Overall as a nation. Americans are a rebellious group of people. I get it. I grew up a military brat, can have my “murican” pride moments.

However in no shape or form do I ever condone violence to anyone no matter how far a part we disagree. I’ll defend myself if needed. But this division now is some 1800’s shit

 

[Frank Badfinger]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1338460460245344257

 

[Artful Revealer]

If you truly believe the proud boy leader was there for a Christmas tour you are more naive then I thought. Apparantly now the msm tells the truth - but only when it’s convenient for you. Plausible deniability is the first rule of criminality.

I don’t have a hard line to either the radical left or the radical right. But I haven’t seen the radical left calling for blowing people’s brains out or starting a civil war. There’s a big difference there.

Man Is Arrested in Stabbing at D.C. Election Protest (Published 2020)

The confrontation near the White House between supporters and opponents of President Trump was one of several on Saturday in Washington and in state capitals across the country.

www.nytimes.com

And shit like this is concerning. Mob violence is concerning. These aren’t fair fights - it’s ten on one. Proud boys instigate, the left fights back, the right shouts about the violent left. Your all ignoring stage one.

I gave sources from “official” press because that’s what the likes of you and rainerann have been relying on this entire time to refute fraud allegations. But I expected you’d come with that type of rebuttal. Saying things like “the left fights back against instigators” is less and less looking like partisanship and starting to look more like pathological lying. It’s simply turning things on its head.

But let’s not flog a dead horse. We’re clearly watching the world with different coloured glasses.