yes and Kai was labeled one of the best dancers in kpop ..1998-2004 Britney was better than most idols (both male and females in K-pop). No female dancer in kpop is on her level and even among males only T@emin comes close to her level in live performing sometimes because Ka1 is too robotic in execution while JM's performances lack in energy. I was shocked to see how lacking Ka1's performances in his solo concert were early this year. Really, if you remove the camera, editing and props these idols will not look so good.